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October 22, 2024, 03:19:43 AM
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Not the most thrilling matchup, considering how dominant Inoue is in this division. But since it's happening, I guess we’ve got no choice but to talk about it. This is yet another title defense for Inoue, with Goodman stepping in as a likely mandatory challenger. Goodman’s unbeaten, but he doesn’t pack much power, only 8 KOs in 19 wins. I haven’t watched his highlights yet, but if he’s anything like other Aussie boxers I’ve seen, he’s probably a slugger. If he's not careful, this fight could end early, with Inoue scoring a KO.

Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.  Cheesy


https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/10/naoya-inoue-vs-sam-goodman-being-finalized-for-december-24th/

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October 22, 2024, 05:18:21 AM
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This might be one of those two fights that Inoue's camp mentioned he’d need to take before moving up to a higher division. Well, I guess we just gotta watch and hope it's at least entertaining. Can’t deny that a lot of people are frustrated as they’re dying to see him go up against Casimero. But even after Casimero’s recent win, he still didn't get that mandatory challenger spot.

I was about to suggest making a poll for this fight, but then I realized --who's gonna vote for Goodman here, right?  Grin

 
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October 22, 2024, 05:25:21 AM
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Not the most thrilling matchup, considering how dominant Inoue is in this division. But since it's happening, I guess we’ve got no choice but to talk about it. This is yet another title defense for Inoue, with Goodman stepping in as a likely mandatory challenger. Goodman’s unbeaten, but he doesn’t pack much power, only 8 KOs in 19 wins. I haven’t watched his highlights yet, but if he’s anything like other Aussie boxers I’ve seen, he’s probably a slugger. If he's not careful, this fight could end early, with Inoue scoring a KO.

Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.  Cheesy


https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/10/naoya-inoue-vs-sam-goodman-being-finalized-for-december-24th/

I admit it wasn't the most exciting pairing. Especially considering Inoue's superiority in the division. But it still made for some exciting moments. Goodman's record shows he's undefeated. This means that he has the courage to take a stand. But if there is not much power in punching He'll have to rely on Inoue's box delivery, which has long been a guarantee for someone as quick and accurate as The Monster.

I expect Goodman to take a cautious approach. Using movement and defense to survive the early matches. But only if he couldn't find a way to hurt Inoue or put him in danger. It might not take Inoue long to figure this out. Inoue's versatility makes him very dangerous. And when he smelled blood, he accepted the knockout. I wouldn't be surprised if Inoue finished him off quickly. But what if Goodman can drag the fight into the latter round? will show his flexibility more Either way It's another opportunity to see what Inoue is capable of on the field. Even if it's only one side.

This might be one of those two fights that Inoue's camp mentioned he’d need to take before moving up to a higher division. Well, I guess we just gotta watch and hope it's at least entertaining. Can’t deny that a lot of people are frustrated as they’re dying to see him go up against Casimero. But even after Casimero’s recent win, he still didn't get that mandatory challenger spot.

I was about to suggest making a poll for this fight, but then I realized --who's gonna vote for Goodman here, right?  Grin

Haha, yeah, I don’t think Goodman would get too many votes in that poll! It does feel like this fight is more of a formality before Inoue moves on to bigger challenges. I get the frustration too everyone’s eager for that Casimero fight, and it’s hard to see why it’s still not happening, especially with Casimero back in the mix after his win. That being said, Goodman is undefeated, and even he is the underdog here. But sometimes unexpected matches surprise us. Although unlikely But there is always the chance that we see something interesting. Although it's hard to imagine Inoue not having the upper hand. Hopefully it will be a fun battle. Even if the outcome is inevitable.
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October 22, 2024, 05:36:00 AM
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Haha, yeah, I don’t think Goodman would get too many votes in that poll! It does feel like this fight is more of a formality before Inoue moves on to bigger challenges. I get the frustration too everyone’s eager for that Casimero fight, and it’s hard to see why it’s still not happening, especially with Casimero back in the mix after his win.
If Casimero hadn’t missed weight during the weigh-in, we could definitely say he’s back in the mix. But yes, he had some issues--came in overweight, and even though he won the fight, it doesn’t seem to have done much for his ranking. Probably because the organization didn’t see it as a big achievement, especially considering Sanchez wasn’t even a top-5 guy, if I’m not mistaken.

That being said, Goodman is undefeated, and even he is the underdog here. But sometimes unexpected matches surprise us. Although unlikely But there is always the chance that we see something interesting. Although it's hard to imagine Inoue not having the upper hand. Hopefully it will be a fun battle. Even if the outcome is inevitable.
Not in Japan--unless Goodman somehow manages to knock out Inoue, but given his KO rate, that’s pretty unlikely.
And yeah, the betting odds definitely line up with what most of us are thinking about this fight.

https://www.proboxingodds.com/fighters/Sam-Goodman-4177
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October 22, 2024, 10:25:34 AM
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This might be one of those two fights that Inoue's camp mentioned he’d need to take before moving up to a higher division. Well, I guess we just gotta watch and hope it's at least entertaining. Can’t deny that a lot of people are frustrated as they’re dying to see him go up against Casimero. But even after Casimero’s recent win, he still didn't get that mandatory challenger spot.

I was about to suggest making a poll for this fight, but then I realized --who's gonna vote for Goodman here, right?  Grin
Last one I believed, Top Rank big boss Bob Arum confirms it. And that's why Murodjon Akhmadaliev is really trying hard to get at fight with Inoue as he was bypass before when he Inoue fought Nery. But as a mandatory, Murodjon Akhmadaliev wanted his chance here. But it's obvious that Inoue is not interested, they might just want to have a easy and less risk fight at the end of the year. Usually those fight date are reserved for their number 1 boxer, so in this case it will be Inoue again to fight at the end of the year. And if he wins then his next fight will be in the US at super featherweight. So it will send a lot of message to those champion at 126 lbs. But it's good to see how far Inoue can go up in weight to proved his greatness as so far he is on the top 5 pound for pound.
 

 
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Last one I believed, Top Rank big boss Bob Arum confirms it. And that's why Murodjon Akhmadaliev is really trying hard to get at fight with Inoue as he was bypass before when he Inoue fought Nery. But as a mandatory, Murodjon Akhmadaliev wanted his chance here. But it's obvious that Inoue is not interested, they might just want to have a easy and less risk fight at the end of the year. Usually those fight date are reserved for their number 1 boxer, so in this case it will be Inoue again to fight at the end of the year. And if he wins then his next fight will be in the US at super featherweight. So it will send a lot of message to those champion at 126 lbs. But it's good to see how far Inoue can go up in weight to proved his greatness as so far he is on the top 5 pound for pound.
 

That's the thing with Inoue - he doesn’t seem to take on the toughest challengers left in the division. Or maybe they're planning to fight him after this one. Akhmadaliev is no joke either; he was an Olympic medalist, so he's already got some solid achievements before going pro. And he did lose to Marlon Tapales, so I feel like Inoue should be able to handle him easily. But I don’t really get why they’re not considering him first before this fight.
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October 22, 2024, 01:42:43 PM
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I consider Goodman to be a sort of wrap up fight for Inoue, after this he will move up and completed his journey in the Super Bantamweight, his camp and his supporters will say its a great journey for Inoue in this division but for some its not because he has a baggage to carry on his next division and that is he left behind a fighter who many people thinks have a chance of beating him.
The featherweight is a loaded division, and he will be challenged here, and who knows if there are unforeseen circumstances that Inoue and Casimero clash, possibly in the featherweight or in catchweight?
Not really an interesting fight to watch; people will watch just to watch, or they will just check the highlights.

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October 22, 2024, 09:38:55 PM
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I consider Goodman to be a sort of wrap up fight for Inoue, after this he will move up and completed his journey in the Super Bantamweight, his camp and his supporters will say its a great journey for Inoue in this division but for some its not because he has a baggage to carry on his next division and that is he left behind a fighter who many people thinks have a chance of beating him.
Looks like after this there's a possible fight with his fellow Japanese as reported in .

Fight between superstar Naoya Inoue and maturing Junto Nakatani ‘makes sense’ for 2025

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Watching Junto Nakatani lift his record to 29-0 with a 22nd knockout to close a two-day festival of title fights in Tokyo last week left Top Rank President Todd DuBoef feeling quite confident over a matter certain to thrill the boxing public.

The featherweight is a loaded division, and he will be challenged here, and who knows if there are unforeseen circumstances that Inoue and Casimero clash, possibly in the featherweight or in catchweight?
Not really an interesting fight to watch; people will watch just to watch, or they will just check the highlights.
In the next division, the only fighters I know are Brandon Figueroa and Rey Vargas, both champions in WBC.
https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings

We'll never know if he'll face Casimero but that is unlikely as when he moved, he would directly be a contender since he was a champion in the lower one.

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October 23, 2024, 12:20:36 AM
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Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.  Cheesy

Nothing against Sam Goodman, but I believe this is just a stay-busy fight for Naoya Inoue. Experience-wise, the Japanese Monster clearly has the advantage, as Sam Goodman’s resume and the opponents he has faced are mostly unremarkable. However, I don’t think this will end in the first round. Inoue will likely be more cautious than ever to avoid repeating the mistakes he made against Luis Nery. Betting on the fight lasting under 6.5 rounds might be a good idea.


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October 23, 2024, 01:13:32 AM
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Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.  Cheesy

Nothing against Sam Goodman, but I believe this is just a stay-busy fight for Naoya Inoue. Experience-wise, the Japanese Monster clearly has the advantage, as Sam Goodman’s resume and the opponents he has faced are mostly unremarkable. However, I don’t think this will end in the first round. Inoue will likely be more cautious than ever to avoid repeating the mistakes he made against Luis Nery. Betting on the fight lasting under 6.5 rounds might be a good idea.

Although "unremarkable" opponents, at the very least they've got good records. They must be some sort of prospects. So, in fairness to Sam, he's fought 3 undefeated fighters in his last 5 fights. And those fighters have numerous wins already.

If I'm not mistaken, however, this is Goodman's first fight outside his home country. And he'll be facing no less than the monster in front of his own people. This might be intimidating for somebody who's been with the most comfortable crowd all his professional career.

I wish him luck though. I hope he'll give Inoue a hard time.

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October 23, 2024, 02:12:03 AM
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Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.  Cheesy

Nothing against Sam Goodman, but I believe this is just a stay-busy fight for Naoya Inoue. Experience-wise, the Japanese Monster clearly has the advantage, as Sam Goodman’s resume and the opponents he has faced are mostly unremarkable. However, I don’t think this will end in the first round. Inoue will likely be more cautious than ever to avoid repeating the mistakes he made against Luis Nery. Betting on the fight lasting under 6.5 rounds might be a good idea.

Right, he just want to be active as we say, before he can go up to featherweight division. And if for those who haven't seen Goodman, he is somewhat slow at this division, he might be tough, but his style is perfect for Inoue to counter and then score another knockout win.

It will be interesting to see what the strategy of Inoue, I'm seeing him attacking the body of Goodman early here and then goes for the head if it is ready to be taken off. I haven't check the odds if this is listed already or not, but yeah, 6.5 under might be a good idea if the odds is going to be that interesting.

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Not the most thrilling matchup, considering how dominant Inoue is in this division. But since it's happening, I guess we’ve got no choice but to talk about it. This is yet another title defense for Inoue, with Goodman stepping in as a likely mandatory challenger. Goodman’s unbeaten, but he doesn’t pack much power, only 8 KOs in 19 wins. I haven’t watched his highlights yet, but if he’s anything like other Aussie boxers I’ve seen, he’s probably a slugger. If he's not careful, this fight could end early, with Inoue scoring a KO.

Yes, he is ranked number 1 by WBO and and IBF, and you are right, he doesn't have that power and so it will be an easy fight for Inoue as he had a good chin although it has been broken already by Luis Nery. However, I do not think that Goodman power is enough to rock him in this fight. And probably this is the reason why they chooses him instead of Casimero or even Murodjon Akhmadaliev.

As for the 126 lbs, you should also look at Angelo Leo. I think this is really a good fight for Inoue if he really wanted to test the best of featherweight division.

But as others have said, this fight will not last that longer, maybe under 8 rounds if Inoue really wanted to show off in Christmas. And I'll probably stay away from betting here unless there is a better odds for Inoue.

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Last one I believed, Top Rank big boss Bob Arum confirms it. And that's why Murodjon Akhmadaliev is really trying hard to get at fight with Inoue as he was bypass before when he Inoue fought Nery. But as a mandatory, Murodjon Akhmadaliev wanted his chance here. But it's obvious that Inoue is not interested, they might just want to have a easy and less risk fight at the end of the year. Usually those fight date are reserved for their number 1 boxer, so in this case it will be Inoue again to fight at the end of the year. And if he wins then his next fight will be in the US at super featherweight. So it will send a lot of message to those champion at 126 lbs. But it's good to see how far Inoue can go up in weight to proved his greatness as so far he is on the top 5 pound for pound.
 

That's the thing with Inoue - he doesn’t seem to take on the toughest challengers left in the division. Or maybe they're planning to fight him after this one. Akhmadaliev is no joke either; he was an Olympic medalist, so he's already got some solid achievements before going pro. And he did lose to Marlon Tapales, so I feel like Inoue should be able to handle him easily. But I don’t really get why they’re not considering him first before this fight.
To be fair with Inoue, he had faced a lot of great boxers already and knock them out. It's that if he wants to clean the division for good, last man standing is Akhmadaliev as he is a former champion and was a Olympic medalist that why he is lobbying the camp of Inoue to face him but to no avail. They already had Sam Goodman who is for me a less opponent for Inoue and that's why others are saying that he is taking an easier route. Now, another Japanese name wanted to challenge Inoue and we have been hearing his name and that is Junto. So let's see, as per Bob Arum, after Goodman they are going to fight in the United States in featherweight division. But who knows, if financially if make sense for Inoue vs Nakatani early next year before going to a new weight class, then it could also be set up.

 
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Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.  Cheesy

Nothing against Sam Goodman, but I believe this is just a stay-busy fight for Naoya Inoue. Experience-wise, the Japanese Monster clearly has the advantage, as Sam Goodman’s resume and the opponents he has faced are mostly unremarkable. However, I don’t think this will end in the first round. Inoue will likely be more cautious than ever to avoid repeating the mistakes he made against Luis Nery. Betting on the fight lasting under 6.5 rounds might be a good idea.

Although "unremarkable" opponents, at the very least they've got good records. They must be some sort of prospects. So, in fairness to Sam, he's fought 3 undefeated fighters in his last 5 fights. And those fighters have numerous wins already.

If I'm not mistaken, however, this is Goodman's first fight outside his home country. And he'll be facing no less than the monster in front of his own people. This might be intimidating for somebody who's been with the most comfortable crowd all his professional career.

I wish him luck though. I hope he'll give Inoue a hard time.

I look at Sam's record, and it is only the TJ Doheny that rings a bell, he defeated TJ by a UD win, while we all know that Inoue did to TJ. So even if he fought 3 undefeated or prospect fighters, still pale in comparison on what Inoue has to go thru his last 3 fights.

And yes, he fought almost in his career in Australia, so he had that home court advantage. But not this time, he will be travelling to Japan to face the Monster. So that is already a big task for him. And if there is a odds in the fight already, for sure he will be a huge underdog here as we haven't seen anyone close in beating Inoue. Except many Luis Nery when he knock down Inoue, but that's it, Inoue come back and won via knockout. And if we look at his KO percentage, it's not that great.

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Goodman is a better fighter than Saul Sanchez so I expect him to last more than a round. It is still a mismatch based on talent level and experience.

Goodman has beaten some recognizable names in Doheny, Aleem, and Flores but they were all by decision. He does not appear to have the power that can hold off Inoue’s offense. He is also not the most adept technician so I am expecting Inoue to steamroll past him.

Goodman already turned down the opportunity to fight Inoue in September, despite being the mandatory challenger, so it shows that his promoter might not have enough confidence in him.

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October 23, 2024, 08:43:18 AM
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Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.  Cheesy

Nothing against Sam Goodman, but I believe this is just a stay-busy fight for Naoya Inoue. Experience-wise, the Japanese Monster clearly has the advantage, as Sam Goodman’s resume and the opponents he has faced are mostly unremarkable. However, I don’t think this will end in the first round. Inoue will likely be more cautious than ever to avoid repeating the mistakes he made against Luis Nery. Betting on the fight lasting under 6.5 rounds might be a good idea.


Inoue have much better experience and reputation compared to Sam Goodman, so it's hard to say if Sam Goodman can destroy inoue in the match, the fight between the two will be played in tokyo as well as being home from inoue and by playing in front of his own supporters of course inoue has a better motivation to defend the undisputed super bantamweight title later, So far he has shown incredible skills in his career and I think this fight may indeed be more about keeping the rhythm and staying active for Inoue, Betting on a fight that lasts under 6.5 rounds does sound reasonable, given Inoue ability to finish the fight quickly, especially since it has been a goodman boxing style who likes to dance, landing a blow, and trying not to get hit has been very often faced by Inoue in the boxers he has faced previously so far.
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October 23, 2024, 12:14:14 PM
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Not the most thrilling matchup, considering how dominant Inoue is in this division. But since it's happening, I guess we’ve got no choice but to talk about it.
Since he is an undisputed champion, even if the match up is not that equal, people are still going to talk and watch about it.
But its not the kind that will excite the boxing community, Inoue is already a big name in the lighter division but the majority of the boxing community has more eyes on the heavier division and this fight is not something that will excite the whole boxing community.

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Since he is an undisputed champion, even if the match up is not that equal, people are still going to talk and watch about it.
But its not the kind that will excite the boxing community, Inoue is already a big name in the lighter division but the majority of the boxing community has more eyes on the heavier division and this fight is not something that will excite the whole boxing community.
Inoue is the most dominant boxer in this division, no doubt about it, he’s the king here. But it feels like the king is just fighting his own warrior to pad his record. Honestly, there’s no real competition left for him here. I think Inoue should decide to move up and aim to dominate the featherweight division. Instead, he’s still holding onto his crown and taking on fights that don’t excite the fans. It’s obvious they’re just going to be easy wins for him.
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October 23, 2024, 12:23:08 PM
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Not the most thrilling matchup, considering how dominant Inoue is in this division. But since it's happening, I guess we’ve got no choice but to talk about it.
Since he is an undisputed champion, even if the match up is not that equal, people are still going to talk and watch about it.
But its not the kind that will excite the boxing community, Inoue is already a big name in the lighter division but the majority of the boxing community has more eyes on the heavier division and this fight is not something that will excite the whole boxing community.

There are boxers that should Inoue fight next that will really excites us, like Casimero, Nakatani and Murodjon Akhmadaliev. But maybe Inoue just wanted to take a light opponent in the Aussie, Sam Goodman.

And it's really hard to look at the lower class though, usually it's the 147 lbs that is the king of weight classes, but now, almost weight classes are full of superstars. Will be very interesting as Inoue will move up to featherweight division and he will be fighting in the US next year. And gonna be the question on how heavy he can go as far as weight class, it could be his last at featherweight? we will see.

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October 23, 2024, 12:27:44 PM
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This might be one of those two fights that Inoue's camp mentioned he’d need to take before moving up to a higher division. Well, I guess we just gotta watch and hope it's at least entertaining. Can’t deny that a lot of people are frustrated as they’re dying to see him go up against Casimero. But even after Casimero’s recent win, he still didn't get that mandatory challenger spot.

I was about to suggest making a poll for this fight, but then I realized --who's gonna vote for Goodman here, right?  Grin

But unfortunately Inoue's camp is really disregarding to make this fight to happen and they also closing the doors for possibilities for this match up. So that means the chapter is already closed and nothing will happen to what fans like.

If Casimero will be handled by huge management and go also up then maybe there would be a chance in future their path will cross, then maybe this discussion will  be raised up again. But for now Casimero has no chance to fight Inoue.

Sam Goodman still a good fighter but I think he's heavily underdog in this match.

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