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October 23, 2024, 12:28:06 PM
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Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.  Cheesy
Nothing against Sam Goodman, but I believe this is just a stay-busy fight for Naoya Inoue. Experience-wise, the Japanese Monster clearly has the advantage, as Sam Goodman’s resume and the opponents he has faced are mostly unremarkable. However, I don’t think this will end in the first round. Inoue will likely be more cautious than ever to avoid repeating the mistakes he made against Luis Nery. Betting on the fight lasting under 6.5 rounds might be a good idea.
Right, he just want to be active as we say, before he can go up to featherweight division. And if for those who haven't seen Goodman, he is somewhat slow at this division, he might be tough, but his style is perfect for Inoue to counter and then score another knockout win.

It will be interesting to see what the strategy of Inoue, I'm seeing him attacking the body of Goodman early here and then goes for the head if it is ready to be taken off. I haven't check the odds if this is listed already or not, but yeah, 6.5 under might be a good idea if the odds is going to be that interesting.
But Goodman slow fighting style gives him good strength in stronger body resistance to every opponent blow, his body is hard and that why he is an undefeated fighter, it might be very sensational fight because Inoue with his hard punches and Goodman with his body like rock.

Honestly, as time goes by I think it impossible for Inoue to win by KO, maybe he will only win by decision if he continues to put pressure and more punches go into Goodman body or face.
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October 23, 2024, 12:42:28 PM
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Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.
Whatever the story, I think the boxing between Inoue and Goodman is the best bet. Goodman has his own character in the ring with his dancing style and Inoue is also a boxer who has punching power. Both of them are tough boxers in my opinion, This is a golden opportunity for Inoue to defend his bantamweight title, for Goodman there is no doubt that the WBO succeeded in defeating TJ, Flores and Aleem.

Overall and if you look at the boxers for both Inoue vs. Goodman, even though Goodman is superior to Inoue and from the several fights they have had, Inoue should not find it difficult to beat Goodman, However, any fight could happen unexpectedly, but I am more confident in Goodman, who will definitely be December 24th, the day when they will determine their own careers in the ring.

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October 23, 2024, 01:03:10 PM
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Overall and if you look at the boxers for both Inoue vs. Goodman, even though Goodman is superior to Inoue and from the several fights they have had,
Superior?! how did it happen? I checked Goodman's boxing record, and I don't see any prominent name except Doheny; he has good movement but lacks power for his opponent to have a huge respect, everybody thinks that this is a cherry picked fight, you cannot cherry pick a superior guy I don't know what in area where Godman has advantage over Inoue, can you tell me where?

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Inoue should not find it difficult to beat Goodman, However, any fight could happen unexpectedly, but I am more confident in Goodman, who will definitely be December 24th, the day when they will determine their own careers in the ring.
Its good to read that one of us here thinks that the fight will go the other way; if he beats Inoue, Goodman will be a huge star, and the fight will be the newsmaker of the year, because until now people are speculating how and who can beat Inoue, and many thought it was Casimero.

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October 23, 2024, 01:46:33 PM
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Overall and if you look at the boxers for both Inoue vs. Goodman, even though Goodman is superior to Inoue and from the several fights they have had,
Superior?! how did it happen? I checked Goodman's boxing record, and I don't see any prominent name except Doheny; he has good movement but lacks power for his opponent to have a huge respect, everybody thinks that this is a cherry picked fight, you cannot cherry pick a superior guy I don't know what in area where Godman has advantage over Inoue, can you tell me where?
@YOSHIE here might not be following this division closely since he's saying Goodman is superior, whereas Inoue is actually the undisputed champion, and Goodman is just a mandatory challenger. But maybe he’s got a different basis for his claim, and I'd also like to know more about that.

 
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October 23, 2024, 02:11:26 PM
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Overall and if you look at the boxers for both Inoue vs. Goodman, even though Goodman is superior to Inoue and from the several fights they have had,
Superior?! how did it happen? I checked Goodman's boxing record, and I don't see any prominent name except Doheny; he has good movement but lacks power for his opponent to have a huge respect, everybody thinks that this is a cherry picked fight, you cannot cherry pick a superior guy I don't know what in area where Godman has advantage over Inoue, can you tell me where?
@YOSHIE here might not be following this division closely since he's saying Goodman is superior, whereas Inoue is actually the undisputed champion, and Goodman is just a mandatory challenger. But maybe he’s got a different basis for his claim, and I'd also like to know more about that.

Maybe he see something from Goodman that's why he say that he is more superior than Inoue. But if we base it on achievements and past fights, we can really say that Inoue is more dominant fighter here.

People could see the odds here https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/naoya-inoue-v-sam-goodman/winner

I also think that this is another cherry picked fight. Fans want either Nakatani or Casimero but guess the people wants didn't happen and they choose the opponent which they have huge chance to win.

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October 23, 2024, 02:29:28 PM
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To be fair with Inoue, he had faced a lot of great boxers already and knock them out. It's that if he wants to clean the division for good, last man standing is Akhmadaliev as he is a former champion and was a Olympic medalist that why he is lobbying the camp of Inoue to face him but to no avail.
He did-- that's how he became the undisputed champion after beating Marlon Tapales. Even after that, he’s still here taking on opponents who aren’t really worthy. And the one boxer who’s been wanting to fight him, someone we all know would make for a great match, he’s been avoiding for years. Sure, the rankings might not be in Casimero's favor, but he should recognize that Casimero is a former three-division champion and could definitely pose a real challenge to him.
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October 23, 2024, 02:56:33 PM
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Overall and if you look at the boxers for both Inoue vs. Goodman, even though Goodman is superior to Inoue and from the several fights they have had,
Superior?! how did it happen? I checked Goodman's boxing record, and I don't see any prominent name except Doheny; he has good movement but lacks power for his opponent to have a huge respect, everybody thinks that this is a cherry picked fight, you cannot cherry pick a superior guy I don't know what in area where Godman has advantage over Inoue, can you tell me where?
@YOSHIE here might not be following this division closely since he's saying Goodman is superior, whereas Inoue is actually the undisputed champion, and Goodman is just a mandatory challenger. But maybe he’s got a different basis for his claim, and I'd also like to know more about that.

A detailed analysis is good when you think the other way instead what the majority will think the result will be, The only comparison I can see is Doheny, whom Goodman beat via unanimous decision but Inoue stopped via TKO in round 7 if you study the highlights of the two fights.
Its obvious that Doheny cannot keep up with the power and speed of Inoue, while Doheny shows no respect on his power; its just Doheny is slow and has a hard time catching Goodman


Here are the highlights of the two fighters, I'd like to be corrected with my analysis
Tj Doheny vs Sam Goodman FULL FIGHT HIGH

Naoya Inoue Stays Undisputed vs TJ Doheny | FIGHT HIGHLIGHTS

of course, Goodman can win by an upset, but he cannot be a superior fighter coming into this fight when your record is subpar against your opponent; you cannot be a superior fighter.




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October 23, 2024, 04:36:12 PM
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Overall and if you look at the boxers for both Inoue vs. Goodman, even though Goodman is superior to Inoue and from the several fights they have had,
Superior?! how did it happen? I checked Goodman's boxing record, and I don't see any prominent name except Doheny; he has good movement but lacks power for his opponent to have a huge respect, everybody thinks that this is a cherry picked fight, you cannot cherry pick a superior guy I don't know what in area where Godman has advantage over Inoue, can you tell me where?
@YOSHIE here might not be following this division closely since he's saying Goodman is superior, whereas Inoue is actually the undisputed champion, and Goodman is just a mandatory challenger. But maybe he’s got a different basis for his claim, and I'd also like to know more about that.

A detailed analysis is good when you think the other way instead what the majority will think the result will be, The only comparison I can see is Doheny, whom Goodman beat via unanimous decision but Inoue stopped via TKO in round 7 if you study the highlights of the two fights.
Its obvious that Doheny cannot keep up with the power and speed of Inoue, while Doheny shows no respect on his power; its just Doheny is slow and has a hard time catching Goodman


Here are the highlights of the two fighters, I'd like to be corrected with my analysis
Tj Doheny vs Sam Goodman FULL FIGHT HIGH

Naoya Inoue Stays Undisputed vs TJ Doheny | FIGHT HIGHLIGHTS

of course, Goodman can win by an upset, but he cannot be a superior fighter coming into this fight when your record is subpar against your opponent; you cannot be a superior fighter.


Akhma Murodjon seems superior to Doheny and even to Goodman, but because Goodman ranked high and this is a mandatory defense, Inoue has to fight him. This is a very good year for Inoue. Casimero is very likely to defeat Inoue seeing the man just executed his best shots in Japan recently.

If Inoue climbs to 126 after smashing Goodman, I think he is really ducking the two Casimero and Murodjon. He couldn't move up all the way, or he would be beaten by some unknown fighter, all because his weight doesn't make him perform the way he should.

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October 24, 2024, 01:32:42 AM
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Although "unremarkable" opponents, at the very least they've got good records. They must be some sort of prospects. So, in fairness to Sam, he's fought 3 undefeated fighters in his last 5 fights. And those fighters have numerous wins already.

If I'm not mistaken, however, this is Goodman's first fight outside his home country. And he'll be facing no less than the monster in front of his own people. This might be intimidating for somebody who's been with the most comfortable crowd all his professional career.

I wish him luck though. I hope he'll give Inoue a hard time.

I look at Sam's record, and it is only the TJ Doheny that rings a bell, he defeated TJ by a UD win, while we all know that Inoue did to TJ. So even if he fought 3 undefeated or prospect fighters, still pale in comparison on what Inoue has to go thru his last 3 fights.

And yes, he fought almost in his career in Australia, so he had that home court advantage. But not this time, he will be travelling to Japan to face the Monster. So that is already a big task for him. And if there is a odds in the fight already, for sure he will be a huge underdog here as we haven't seen anyone close in beating Inoue. Except many Luis Nery when he knock down Inoue, but that's it, Inoue come back and won via knockout. And if we look at his KO percentage, it's not that great.

Of course, Goodman is incomparable to Inoue. That's why this is a lop-sided match. I was just looking at what Goodman has accomplished in his professional career that made Inoue choose him. He's done something, but it isn't much compared to the monster's accomplishments.

Botnake has posted initial odds from proboxing. Inoue's 1.04 and Sam's 15.2 speak volumes as to how analysts and enthusiasts see how the match would end.

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October 24, 2024, 02:44:29 AM
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Overall and if you look at the boxers for both Inoue vs. Goodman, even though Goodman is superior to Inoue and from the several fights they have had,
Superior?! how did it happen? I checked Goodman's boxing record, and I don't see any prominent name except Doheny; he has good movement but lacks power for his opponent to have a huge respect, everybody thinks that this is a cherry picked fight, you cannot cherry pick a superior guy I don't know what in area where Godman has advantage over Inoue, can you tell me where?
@YOSHIE here might not be following this division closely since he's saying Goodman is superior, whereas Inoue is actually the undisputed champion, and Goodman is just a mandatory challenger. But maybe he’s got a different basis for his claim, and I'd also like to know more about that.

A detailed analysis is good when you think the other way instead what the majority will think the result will be, The only comparison I can see is Doheny, whom Goodman beat via unanimous decision but Inoue stopped via TKO in round 7 if you study the highlights of the two fights.
Its obvious that Doheny cannot keep up with the power and speed of Inoue, while Doheny shows no respect on his power; its just Doheny is slow and has a hard time catching Goodman


Here are the highlights of the two fighters, I'd like to be corrected with my analysis
Tj Doheny vs Sam Goodman FULL FIGHT HIGH

Naoya Inoue Stays Undisputed vs TJ Doheny | FIGHT HIGHLIGHTS

of course, Goodman can win by an upset, but he cannot be a superior fighter coming into this fight when your record is subpar against your opponent; you cannot be a superior fighter.


Akhma Murodjon seems superior to Doheny and even to Goodman, but because Goodman ranked high and this is a mandatory defense, Inoue has to fight him. This is a very good year for Inoue. Casimero is very likely to defeat Inoue seeing the man just executed his best shots in Japan recently.

If Inoue climbs to 126 after smashing Goodman, I think he is really ducking the two Casimero and Murodjon. He couldn't move up all the way, or he would be beaten by some unknown fighter, all because his weight doesn't make him perform the way he should.

Maybe we can speculate it that way, that Inoue has duck Casimero and Murodjon Akhmadaliev. But that's the thing is boxing, there are a lot of great fighters and this boxers can only fight at certain point. And we can say that Goodman is lucky to have a chance to fight Inoue for his last fight at super bantamweight.

Because if they are going to stay true at their plans, next year, Inoue will be fighting in the US for a new weight class. And then we can only think of what if for Inoue for 3 fighters, including fellow Japanese Junto Nakatani. Inoue is 31 years old so he is about to hit his peak and that is good for him to leave and go to the US and really test against the best of 126 lbs. Brandon Figueroa, Rey Vargas and Angelo Leo will be a mega fight for us boxing fans.

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October 24, 2024, 07:29:34 AM
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Sam Goodman still a good fighter but I think he's heavily underdog in this match.
Well, he's fighting Inoue that's why he's the heavy underdog in this match.
I guess this is a good wrap-up fight for Inoue before the end of the year and possibly moving up and fight better fighters next year.

Both are undefeated, but knowing that he's fighting Inoue, I guess we know who will win on this fight already. It's like a mandatory fight so I guess he has no choice. On the other hand, it's already good that he's moving up instead of just staying on the same division knowing that there isn't any fighter that can outmatch him or at least be on par with him. Well, like I always say, one punch can change everything and we saw an unexpected during his previous fights where he got knocked down in the first round, and although he won at that fight, it just shows that anything can happen. Who knows? We might see one of the greatest upsets in boxing history? Cheesy But what are the chances? Cheesy

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October 24, 2024, 08:11:27 AM
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To be fair with Inoue, he had faced a lot of great boxers already and knock them out. It's that if he wants to clean the division for good, last man standing is Akhmadaliev as he is a former champion and was a Olympic medalist that why he is lobbying the camp of Inoue to face him but to no avail.
He did-- that's how he became the undisputed champion after beating Marlon Tapales. Even after that, he’s still here taking on opponents who aren’t really worthy. And the one boxer who’s been wanting to fight him, someone we all know would make for a great match, he’s been avoiding for years. Sure, the rankings might not be in Casimero's favor, but he should recognize that Casimero is a former three-division champion and could definitely pose a real challenge to him.
That's the thing with Casimero though, he could have a great chance before but he blew it already. And moving forward, it was just a one shot deal for him to have a chance against Inoue but unfortunately, he squandered his chance by going over the weight limit or trying to removed that excess weight in which the British commission caught him in sauna. And it sounds familiar again as last week he was also the weight limit against Sanchez but the good thing is that he was allowed to continue because it's not a championship fight. As for Akhmadaliev, maybe the reason is that he lost to Marlon Tapales in which Inoue break down and knockout as well. So now, they think that they've beat everyone as this weight class and are going against his mandatory in Sam Goodman before the end of the year or most likely his last fight at 122 lbs.

 
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October 24, 2024, 08:34:27 AM
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Maybe Inoue’s trying to beat Casimero’s first-round TKO. Let’s see how it goes.  Cheesy
Nothing against Sam Goodman, but I believe this is just a stay-busy fight for Naoya Inoue. Experience-wise, the Japanese Monster clearly has the advantage, as Sam Goodman’s resume and the opponents he has faced are mostly unremarkable. However, I don’t think this will end in the first round. Inoue will likely be more cautious than ever to avoid repeating the mistakes he made against Luis Nery. Betting on the fight lasting under 6.5 rounds might be a good idea.
Right, he just want to be active as we say, before he can go up to featherweight division. And if for those who haven't seen Goodman, he is somewhat slow at this division, he might be tough, but his style is perfect for Inoue to counter and then score another knockout win.

It will be interesting to see what the strategy of Inoue, I'm seeing him attacking the body of Goodman early here and then goes for the head if it is ready to be taken off. I haven't check the odds if this is listed already or not, but yeah, 6.5 under might be a good idea if the odds is going to be that interesting.
But Goodman slow fighting style gives him good strength in stronger body resistance to every opponent blow, his body is hard and that why he is an undefeated fighter, it might be very sensational fight because Inoue with his hard punches and Goodman with his body like rock.

If he has trained his body then maybe he is going to be a tough cookie to break. But we all know that Inoue is also a body snatcher, although in his last couple of fights, he is head hunting as he wanted to knock people out. But he still takes on the body, so soften them up before attacking the head. Simply but very effective for him. And if you will notice, him and his brother Takuma loves to take that body away.

Honestly, as time goes by I think it impossible for Inoue to win by KO, maybe he will only win by decision if he continues to put pressure and more punches go into Goodman body or face.

Maybe when he moves up to 126 lbs, wherein boxer are typically bigger and natural at that weight, it might be very hard to Inoue to knock them out and we still don't know if he can carry his power in that weight class. But here against Sam Goodman, he could still pack the power that we have seen him all throughout his campaign in this division and the consensus is that he will win by knockout again.

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October 24, 2024, 01:52:24 PM
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Who knows? We might see one of the greatest upsets in boxing history? Cheesy But what are the chances? Cheesy

Probably like a 1 in 100 chance we see an upset here. Inoue is just built different. He got knocked down once but got back up and destroyed his opponent. Honestly, I think Nery was better than Goodman in experience, so I’m not really hyped for this fight. I think the betting will mostly be about which round Goodman gets knocked out --'cause the winner feels like a done deal already.

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October 24, 2024, 03:12:22 PM
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Probably like a 1 in 100 chance we see an upset here. Inoue is just built different. He got knocked down once but got back up and destroyed his opponent. Honestly, I think Nery was better than Goodman in experience, so I’m not really hyped for this fight. I think the betting will mostly be about which round Goodman gets knocked out --'cause the winner feels like a done deal already.

That’s kinda underestimating Inoue's challenger and overhyping Inoue. He was -6500 against Doheny, which means like a 98.5% chance to win. So yeah, you might be right about that one. But this time, he's up against a better opponent with a solid ranking, so maybe it's more like 90% -- still pretty high. Grin


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Maybe we can speculate it that way, that Inoue has duck Casimero and Murodjon Akhmadaliev. But that's the thing is boxing, there are a lot of great fighters and this boxers can only fight at certain point. And we can say that Goodman is lucky to have a chance to fight Inoue for his last fight at super bantamweight.

Because if they are going to stay true at their plans, next year, Inoue will be fighting in the US for a new weight class. And then we can only think of what if for Inoue for 3 fighters, including fellow Japanese Junto Nakatani. Inoue is 31 years old so he is about to hit his peak and that is good for him to leave and go to the US and really test against the best of 126 lbs. Brandon Figueroa, Rey Vargas and Angelo Leo will be a mega fight for us boxing fans.

That's what rumors are saying. It's been said that if he is to fight Tank Davis, he has to be matched up with someone popular in the US since he isn't known in the country. But climbing up to heavier weight class will just be a disadvantage to him, he may not even need to fight someone like Davis and yet he'll be crawling on the mat. He got knocked down by Luis Nery which is a manifestation of adding weight.

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Probably like a 1 in 100 chance we see an upset here. Inoue is just built different. He got knocked down once but got back up and destroyed his opponent. Honestly, I think Nery was better than Goodman in experience, so I’m not really hyped for this fight. I think the betting will mostly be about which round Goodman gets knocked out --'cause the winner feels like a done deal already.

That’s kinda underestimating Inoue's challenger and overhyping Inoue. He was -6500 against Doheny, which means like a 98.5% chance to win. So yeah, you might be right about that one. But this time, he's up against a better opponent with a solid ranking, so maybe it's more like 90% -- still pretty high. Grin

Well Sam Goodman fight is all in Australia and we all know that he is Australian, so he fight with confidence in his home country just like Inoue. So he is very much home grown fighter and usually if they step out in their comfort zone, they are pretty much destroyed.

And so I guess that Nery could be a tough customer than Sam Goodman, Nery has fought a lot as well if my memory serves me right so he has a lot of experience. But that was not enough for the Inoue fight as he had his time to score a upset by knocking Inoue down, but Inoue come back strong and go for a knockout win. That's how tough Inoue is, but not sure if he can also conquer the next weight class with ease.

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That’s kinda underestimating Inoue's challenger and overhyping Inoue. He was -6500 against Doheny, which means like a 98.5% chance to win. So yeah, you might be right about that one. But this time, he's up against a better opponent with a solid ranking, so maybe it's more like 90% -- still pretty high. Grin

As for me, I believe Luis Nery is a better boxer than Sam Goodman, as Goodman has not fought outside his home country, Australia. While an upset is possible, I think it’s a very slim chance given Naoya Inoue’s talent and the fact that he is still in his prime.


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As for me, I believe Luis Nery is a better boxer than Sam Goodman, as Goodman has not fought outside his home country, Australia. While an upset is possible, I think it’s a very slim chance given Naoya Inoue’s talent and the fact that he is still in his prime.
Every boxer in Inoue’s current division has a slim chance of winning, and Goodman is no exception. There won’t be any upset here unless Goodman turns out to be the kind of fighter who can knock someone out with one punch, but judging by his record, he doesn’t have that.

I don’t think this fight will attract much international interest either. Even with a lot of Japanese fans, I’m sure they’re getting tired of watching Inoue fight opponents who aren’t on his level.

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That’s kinda underestimating Inoue's challenger and overhyping Inoue. He was -6500 against Doheny, which means like a 98.5% chance to win. So yeah, you might be right about that one. But this time, he's up against a better opponent with a solid ranking, so maybe it's more like 90% -- still pretty high. Grin

As for me, I believe Luis Nery is a better boxer than Sam Goodman, as Goodman has not fought outside his home country, Australia. While an upset is possible, I think it’s a very slim chance given Naoya Inoue’s talent and the fact that he is still in his prime.

Quality of opponents, yes, Luis Nery could have a better resume than Sam Goodman. I even saw a video of Bob Arum though, highlighting Inoue and saying that he wanted to face tough opponents.

However, in this case, it's a move backward, there could be fighters like Casimero or Murodjon Akhmadaliev.

The fight with Sam Goodman though is already scheduled and so I doubt that Murodjon Akhmadaliev will have a case here as there are reports that he wanted to go legal so that he can fight Inoue.

 
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