[Boxing] Inoue vs Goodman December 24th

[btc_angela]

Why not fight Casimero instead? Sure, his ranking might not be great, but he’s a fighter who hasn’t been beaten by anyone in the current division. It would definitely be an exciting matchup.

Casimero is 2nd in this ranking

Casimero might decline the offer as a substitute for Sam Goodman as the time to prepare is not enough, two weeks notice is just too short for Casimero since we all know that he struggle to make the 122 weight limit of this division. They might postpone this fight to early next year, maybe Jan as what some users here speculate.

This would very much be Casimero's most biggest mistake! He does not have big opportunities with his small Japanese promoter. Casimero can negotiate a larger offer than his last fight to have this event move forward or no one will have revenues if this is cancelled. Also, Casimero will be one of the biggest names that will very much be cheered by the Japanese fans for his bravery. However, this should be on catchweight without risk of Inuoe's championships. This will be a good fight for Casimero if this is on catchweight. We might witness something similar to Inoue vs. Donaire 1 hehehehehe.

I agree, not enough time for preparation, Casimero won in his last fight and for sure once he gets back to the province, he will celebrate the winnings with them. And as Christmas is approaching, he might be approaching like 135 lbs or even higher today.

So it's a lose-lose situation for Casimero and he might turn it down.

Let them fight next year if Inoue is still interested, but just like what he says against Akhmadaliev, he is not running, but doesn't make sense to fight him right now as he was once beaten by Tapales. In  case of Casimero, he has nothing to offer in the table for Inoue, on the contrary, Casimero will have his biggest pay check and most likely Inoue doesn't want to give it to him.

[Baofeng]

It's official that the fight is going to be moved on January 24, 2025,



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So crypto based gambling sites got it right as they have change the schedule to January 24 already. So Sam Goodman will take a rest and have that healed, and maybe Inoue taking a break so that not to overtrained.

I guess the OP can edit the date.

[bbc.reporter]

Why not fight Casimero instead? Sure, his ranking might not be great, but he’s a fighter who hasn’t been beaten by anyone in the current division. It would definitely be an exciting matchup.

Casimero is 2nd in this ranking

Casimero might decline the offer as a substitute for Sam Goodman as the time to prepare is not enough, two weeks notice is just too short for Casimero since we all know that he struggle to make the 122 weight limit of this division. They might postpone this fight to early next year, maybe Jan as what some users here speculate.

This would very much be Casimero's most biggest mistake! He does not have big opportunities with his small Japanese promoter. Casimero can negotiate a larger offer than his last fight to have this event move forward or no one will have revenues if this is cancelled. Also, Casimero will be one of the biggest names that will very much be cheered by the Japanese fans for his bravery. However, this should be on catchweight without risk of Inuoe's championships. This will be a good fight for Casimero if this is on catchweight. We might witness something similar to Inoue vs. Donaire 1 hehehehehe.

I agree, not enough time for preparation, Casimero won in his last fight and for sure once he gets back to the province, he will celebrate the winnings with them. And as Christmas is approaching, he might be approaching like 135 lbs or even higher today.

So it's a lose-lose situation for Casimero and he might turn it down.

Let them fight next year if Inoue is still interested, but just like what he says against Akhmadaliev, he is not running, but doesn't make sense to fight him right now as he was once beaten by Tapales. In  case of Casimero, he has nothing to offer in the table for Inoue, on the contrary, Casimero will have his biggest pay check and most likely Inoue doesn't want to give it to him.

I disagreed that to the argument that he should not accept the offer. He should accept the offer because there will be no more offers like this that will appear on his table! However, he should negotiate for the fight to be on catchweight. The fans will still certainly watch this with cheers because this is their Japanese hero Inoue very much similar to the fans of Pacman. Also, there might be more demand for this fight because Casimero certainly has more fans than Sam Goodman.

[Hirose UK]

Why not fight Casimero instead? Sure, his ranking might not be great, but he’s a fighter who hasn’t been beaten by anyone in the current division. It would definitely be an exciting matchup.

Casimero is 2nd in this ranking

Casimero might decline the offer as a substitute for Sam Goodman as the time to prepare is not enough, two weeks notice is just too short for Casimero since we all know that he struggle to make the 122 weight limit of this division. They might postpone this fight to early next year, maybe Jan as what some users here speculate.

Also surprising why some people mention Casimero because Goodman injury is not serious injury and it is only skin tear, various media reports state that the fight will be held on January 24 and of course now we get the answer that there is no replacement because the fight was only postponed for about 1 month.
Initially, I also questioned whether there was replacement or just postponed and made new schedule, after all it is not easy to be able to fight Inoue and anyone would definitely refuse when given replacement offer with very limited time like that.

[TravelMug]

It's official that the fight is going to be moved on January 24, 2025,

I guess it's a good move from Inoue himself to wait for Sam Goodman and not rush to fight any contender as this fight. Yes, it's a bit frustrating not to fight in front of your hometown as it's supposed to be a a Japanese tradition.

But he is putting everything at risk if he fought a nobody in December 24, and what are the chances that we might see a upset? We've seen one recently when Jaime Munguia was knockout by a unknown boxer. It's just one month away from the original schedule, so it will not affect his training and it could be a blessing for him as he can celebrate the holiday with his family.

[Japinat]

But he is putting everything at risk if he fought a nobody in December 24, and what are the chances that we might see a upset? We've seen one recently when Jaime Munguia was knockout by a unknown boxer. It's just one month away from the original schedule, so it will not affect his training and it could be a blessing for him as he can celebrate the holiday with his family.

I’m okay with him fighting a “nobody,” as long as that “nobody” is Casimero. If he’s going to fight someone who isn’t well-ranked, why not choose Casimero instead? That way, once he beats him, Casimero will stop challenging and disrespecting him. I think Japanese fans would love to see that, and we might even hear some boos for Casimero. When it comes to an exciting fight, Casimero will certainly deliver.

[Yaunfitda]

But he is putting everything at risk if he fought a nobody in December 24, and what are the chances that we might see a upset? We've seen one recently when Jaime Munguia was knockout by a unknown boxer. It's just one month away from the original schedule, so it will not affect his training and it could be a blessing for him as he can celebrate the holiday with his family.

I’m okay with him fighting a “nobody,” as long as that “nobody” is Casimero. If he’s going to fight someone who isn’t well-ranked, why not choose Casimero instead? That way, once he beats him, Casimero will stop challenging and disrespecting him. I think Japanese fans would love to see that, and we might even hear some boos for Casimero. When it comes to an exciting fight, Casimero will certainly deliver.

I agree that Casimero might be a good choice for Inoue to seek as a replacement fighter. But it seem that they don't want to take that risk or offer that opportunity to Casimero because on how the trolls the Japanese in the media.

So he would rather wait for Goodman next month and not to talk about entertaining any fighter as a replacement, Japanese or any nationality. Others might say that he is playing safe. But it could be that this is the wise decision for him. Although fighting next year might delay his plans for a US invasion by a month or two.

[Fredomago]

But he is putting everything at risk if he fought a nobody in December 24, and what are the chances that we might see a upset? We've seen one recently when Jaime Munguia was knockout by a unknown boxer. It's just one month away from the original schedule, so it will not affect his training and it could be a blessing for him as he can celebrate the holiday with his family.

I’m okay with him fighting a “nobody,” as long as that “nobody” is Casimero. If he’s going to fight someone who isn’t well-ranked, why not choose Casimero instead? That way, once he beats him, Casimero will stop challenging and disrespecting him. I think Japanese fans would love to see that, and we might even hear some boos for Casimero. When it comes to an exciting fight, Casimero will certainly deliver.

I agree that Casimero might be a good choice for Inoue to seek as a replacement fighter. But it seem that they don't want to take that risk or offer that opportunity to Casimero because on how the trolls the Japanese in the media.

So he would rather wait for Goodman next month and not to talk about entertaining any fighter as a replacement, Japanese or any nationality. Others might say that he is playing safe. But it could be that this is the wise decision for him. Although fighting next year might delay his plans for a US invasion by a month or two.

As per giving Casimero his chance  I guess he already missed that one, the time he was stripped that's the opportunities to figth the Monster, but now, I guess Inoue and his camp will not give him that chance knowing that Casimero have that fighting skills that might risk his entire career, though everything still depends on how the money will work for both sides, we know if the price is right, there's always a an opportunity to see things to happen.

[Kemarit]

But he is putting everything at risk if he fought a nobody in December 24, and what are the chances that we might see a upset? We've seen one recently when Jaime Munguia was knockout by a unknown boxer. It's just one month away from the original schedule, so it will not affect his training and it could be a blessing for him as he can celebrate the holiday with his family.

I’m okay with him fighting a “nobody,” as long as that “nobody” is Casimero. If he’s going to fight someone who isn’t well-ranked, why not choose Casimero instead? That way, once he beats him, Casimero will stop challenging and disrespecting him. I think Japanese fans would love to see that, and we might even hear some boos for Casimero. When it comes to an exciting fight, Casimero will certainly deliver.

I agree that Casimero might be a good choice for Inoue to seek as a replacement fighter. But it seem that they don't want to take that risk or offer that opportunity to Casimero because on how the trolls the Japanese in the media.

So he would rather wait for Goodman next month and not to talk about entertaining any fighter as a replacement, Japanese or any nationality. Others might say that he is playing safe. But it could be that this is the wise decision for him. Although fighting next year might delay his plans for a US invasion by a month or two.

As per giving Casimero his chance  I guess he already missed that one, the time he was stripped that's the opportunities to figth the Monster, but now, I guess Inoue and his camp will not give him that chance knowing that Casimero have that fighting skills that might risk his entire career, though everything still depends on how the money will work for both sides, we know if the price is right, there's always a an opportunity to see things to happen.

Yes and it's just very unfortunate that Casimero has chance to fight Inoue before, but he didn't have the discipline or at least he thinks that he can manage his weight. But that is the past already, and so that chances are no longer present for him.

And as per report, the fight is going to continue and they have adjusted it to January 24. Just a full month from the original date and so it is still very much doable. Goodman is lucky though, so hopefully he will make it in January and he should at least spar with head gear to prevent this accident.

[btc_angela]

Why not fight Casimero instead? Sure, his ranking might not be great, but he’s a fighter who hasn’t been beaten by anyone in the current division. It would definitely be an exciting matchup.

Casimero is 2nd in this ranking

Casimero might decline the offer as a substitute for Sam Goodman as the time to prepare is not enough, two weeks notice is just too short for Casimero since we all know that he struggle to make the 122 weight limit of this division. They might postpone this fight to early next year, maybe Jan as what some users here speculate.

This would very much be Casimero's most biggest mistake! He does not have big opportunities with his small Japanese promoter. Casimero can negotiate a larger offer than his last fight to have this event move forward or no one will have revenues if this is cancelled. Also, Casimero will be one of the biggest names that will very much be cheered by the Japanese fans for his bravery. However, this should be on catchweight without risk of Inuoe's championships. This will be a good fight for Casimero if this is on catchweight. We might witness something similar to Inoue vs. Donaire 1 hehehehehe.

I agree, not enough time for preparation, Casimero won in his last fight and for sure once he gets back to the province, he will celebrate the winnings with them. And as Christmas is approaching, he might be approaching like 135 lbs or even higher today.

So it's a lose-lose situation for Casimero and he might turn it down.

Let them fight next year if Inoue is still interested, but just like what he says against Akhmadaliev, he is not running, but doesn't make sense to fight him right now as he was once beaten by Tapales. In  case of Casimero, he has nothing to offer in the table for Inoue, on the contrary, Casimero will have his biggest pay check and most likely Inoue doesn't want to give it to him.

I disagreed that to the argument that he should not accept the offer. He should accept the offer because there will be no more offers like this that will appear on his table! However, he should negotiate for the fight to be on catchweight. The fans will still certainly watch this with cheers because this is their Japanese hero Inoue very much similar to the fans of Pacman. Also, there might be more demand for this fight because Casimero certainly has more fans than Sam Goodman.

But the question is, can he make the weight? For sure you know that Casimero has history of not making weight just like in his last fight. So he is in off season and probably waking around 140 lbs, do you think that he can make 122 lbs without killing himself for that weight? Of course we want him to fight Casimero, but circumstances are not ripe for both of them.

Will Inoue willing to fight at a catch weight just to fight Casimero?

In any case, it's now confirmed that Sam Goodman will still be his opponent, they will just move on a later date to accommodate Sam's injury to heal.

[bbc.reporter]

@btc_angela. It will certainly be difficult for Casimero to make the weight. This is also why I have also said that if Inoue's team really wanted to save this event on this date, Casimero should agree and negotiate the fight to be on catchweight.

Also, you argue that circumstances are not ripe? There will be no big opportunities that will arrive on Casimero's career heheheh. He cannot certainly wait for a ripe circumstance. If Inoue offers him a fight on a short notice, Casimero should certainly accept this.

[TravelMug]

But he is putting everything at risk if he fought a nobody in December 24, and what are the chances that we might see a upset? We've seen one recently when Jaime Munguia was knockout by a unknown boxer. It's just one month away from the original schedule, so it will not affect his training and it could be a blessing for him as he can celebrate the holiday with his family.

I’m okay with him fighting a “nobody,” as long as that “nobody” is Casimero. If he’s going to fight someone who isn’t well-ranked, why not choose Casimero instead? That way, once he beats him, Casimero will stop challenging and disrespecting him. I think Japanese fans would love to see that, and we might even hear some boos for Casimero. When it comes to an exciting fight, Casimero will certainly deliver.

It's because he simply doesn't want to?

Casimero has been chasing him for a long time, but I guess there are factors that really are on the way to be this fight happening. We've seen that they could have a chance, but it was due to Casimero, not meeting the weight.

I guess he still needs to proved something at 122 lbs to be even offered to fight Inoue. Casimero is still outside of the top 5 in all four governing bodies. So it's going to be very hard for him to leapfrog or overtake those boxer that are above him in rankings.

[Yaunfitda]

But he is putting everything at risk if he fought a nobody in December 24, and what are the chances that we might see a upset? We've seen one recently when Jaime Munguia was knockout by a unknown boxer. It's just one month away from the original schedule, so it will not affect his training and it could be a blessing for him as he can celebrate the holiday with his family.

I’m okay with him fighting a “nobody,” as long as that “nobody” is Casimero. If he’s going to fight someone who isn’t well-ranked, why not choose Casimero instead? That way, once he beats him, Casimero will stop challenging and disrespecting him. I think Japanese fans would love to see that, and we might even hear some boos for Casimero. When it comes to an exciting fight, Casimero will certainly deliver.

I agree that Casimero might be a good choice for Inoue to seek as a replacement fighter. But it seem that they don't want to take that risk or offer that opportunity to Casimero because on how the trolls the Japanese in the media.

So he would rather wait for Goodman next month and not to talk about entertaining any fighter as a replacement, Japanese or any nationality. Others might say that he is playing safe. But it could be that this is the wise decision for him. Although fighting next year might delay his plans for a US invasion by a month or two.

As per giving Casimero his chance  I guess he already missed that one, the time he was stripped that's the opportunities to figth the Monster, but now, I guess Inoue and his camp will not give him that chance knowing that Casimero have that fighting skills that might risk his entire career, though everything still depends on how the money will work for both sides, we know if the price is right, there's always a an opportunity to see things to happen.

Sometimes that one opportunity that you missed might haunt you throughout your career. And probably this want happens to Casimero here, he is so proud and brandish before. Unfortunately for him, he didn't take care of his weight even in his last fight, he is overweight and it really hurt his career.

Now, it's all but a dream for him to face the monster, because as much as we reason out that Inoue should give him a chance, he won't as he thinks that Casimero doesn't deserved it. And for sure Sam Goodman would do his best not to get injured again, otherwise he might not be given another chance.

[Maslate]

Sometimes that one opportunity that you missed might haunt you throughout your career. And probably this want happens to Casimero here, he is so proud and brandish before. Unfortunately for him, he didn't take care of his weight even in his last fight, he is overweight and it really hurt his career.

That was his one big mistake, and it’s the reason for his struggles now. Although he still talks as confidently as before, the quality of his fights just isn’t the same anymore.

After the Tete fight, things really went downhill for him. That major mistake led him to his current division, where unfortunately, his ranking isn’t great.

Now, it's all but a dream for him to face the monster, because as much as we reason out that Inoue should give him a chance, he won't as he thinks that Casimero doesn't deserved it. And for sure Sam Goodman would do his best not to get injured again, otherwise he might not be given another chance.

Casimero was supposed to force Inoue to fight him by proving his worth in terms of ranking and standing. But now, Inoue has valid excuses for not fighting Casimero. I’m not sure, maybe one last push in a higher division could be the chance for them to finally meet.

[Russlenat]

Casimero was supposed to force Inoue to fight him by proving his worth in terms of ranking and standing. But now, Inoue has valid excuses for not fighting Casimero. I’m not sure, maybe one last push in a higher division could be the chance for them to finally meet.

If he had become the number one contender, he might have been able to force Inoue to fight him. However, that didn’t happen.. not his fault, but his promoter’s. They failed to secure him big fights that could have fast-tracked his climb to the top rankings. Now, the idea of these two fighting will likely remain a fantasy, because on paper, it’s just not realistic.

[Maslate]

Casimero was supposed to force Inoue to fight him by proving his worth in terms of ranking and standing. But now, Inoue has valid excuses for not fighting Casimero. I’m not sure, maybe one last push in a higher division could be the chance for them to finally meet.

If he had become the number one contender, he might have been able to force Inoue to fight him. However, that didn’t happen.. not his fault, but his promoter’s. They failed to secure him big fights that could have fast-tracked his climb to the top rankings. Now, the idea of these two fighting will likely remain a fantasy, because on paper, it’s just not realistic.

I’d somewhat agree with that. Although Casimero hasn’t lost since being stripped of his belt in the bantamweight division, most of his opponents haven’t been well-known. That’s likely why his rankings haven’t climbed. Maybe if he had stayed with Pacman Promotions, he could’ve gotten a good break, and who knows, he might already be a champion in his current division. But I still hope that "fantasy fight" becomes a reality in the near future, or at least before he retires.

[Jating]

Casimero was supposed to force Inoue to fight him by proving his worth in terms of ranking and standing. But now, Inoue has valid excuses for not fighting Casimero. I’m not sure, maybe one last push in a higher division could be the chance for them to finally meet.

If he had become the number one contender, he might have been able to force Inoue to fight him. However, that didn’t happen.. not his fault, but his promoter’s. They failed to secure him big fights that could have fast-tracked his climb to the top rankings. Now, the idea of these two fighting will likely remain a fantasy, because on paper, it’s just not realistic.

I think it has something to do with his first performance as well when he goes up to 122 lbs. It's very controversial result and so with that, Casimero didn't get what he is looking for. And his second fight, he failed to impressed again that's why the talks of him and Inoue or at least Naoya's camp are not interested on him.

But if he could fight like the top 5, before I wanted to him to fight Nery, or Akhmadaliev, but they can't secure that fight. I do agree though that if he didn't left MP, Sean Gibbons with his influence, could have pair him with top opponents and maybe they can finally secure a Inoue fight. But it's history already, sometimes when you go against your promoter, your career might not move just like what we see here.

[Sanitough]

But if he could fight like the top 5, before I wanted to him to fight Nery, or Akhmadaliev, but they can't secure that fight. I do agree though that if he didn't left MP, Sean Gibbons with his influence, could have pair him with top opponents and maybe they can finally secure a Inoue fight. But it's history already, sometimes when you go against your promoter, your career might not move just like what we see here.

That’s definitely the issue, he was with the wrong promoter. If I’m not mistaken, his promoter is Japanese, which explains why most of his opponents are Japanese. Fighting in Japan means his opponents get most of the crowd’s support, and you can’t ignore the rumors that refs and judges might favor the hometown fighters.

If he had secured big fights, even if not against Inoue, then he could have built enough momentum to force Inoue into giving him a chance. But since that didn’t happen, he’s stuck in a lower ranking while Inoue remains at the top. 

[Baofeng]

But if he could fight like the top 5, before I wanted to him to fight Nery, or Akhmadaliev, but they can't secure that fight. I do agree though that if he didn't left MP, Sean Gibbons with his influence, could have pair him with top opponents and maybe they can finally secure a Inoue fight. But it's history already, sometimes when you go against your promoter, your career might not move just like what we see here.

That’s definitely the issue, he was with the wrong promoter. If I’m not mistaken, his promoter is Japanese, which explains why most of his opponents are Japanese. Fighting in Japan means his opponents get most of the crowd’s support, and you can’t ignore the rumors that refs and judges might favor the hometown fighters.

Yes, he is being promoted by a Japanese, perhaps that's what Inoue think though, if he will get a Japanese promoter, he might have a chance to get a crack at Inoue. But even his Japanese promoter was also dismayed when Casimero can't make the weight in his last fight although he won by a knockout.

If he had secured big fights, even if not against Inoue, then he could have built enough momentum to force Inoue into giving him a chance. But since that didn’t happen, he’s stuck in a lower ranking while Inoue remains at the top. 

Still depends on Casimero to show us something, I can't remember as well if his Japanese promoter has re-sign him to a new contract or not because of his weight issues as it very unprofessional.

[Maslate]

Still depends on Casimero to show us something, I can't remember as well if his Japanese promoter has re-sign him to a new contract or not because of his weight issues as it very unprofessional.

It would definitely be good if he would not be re-signed, as that could open doors to another promoter, hopefully one who can secure him the big fights he deserves. His career hasn’t been heading in the right direction lately, even though his skills are still at a championship level, and he’s been dominating his recent opponents.

That said, with a year-long ban, we won’t be seeing him in action for a while. Hopefully, during this downtime, he stays active in training so that when he comes back, he’s still in peak shape. Another option to consider could be exhibition matches. It would keep him sharp, and even bring in some earnings while he waits out the ban.