[Boxing] Inoue vs Goodman December 24th

[Japinat]

That is his plan, to fight in Las Vegas,

ESPN reported, "Naoya Inoue could play a neutral zone game against Alan Picasso (24, Mexico) in Las Vegas, Nevada in the spring of 2025." Picasso is one of the top five super bantamweights rated No. 1 in WBC and No. 8 in WBO.

https://www.mk.co.kr/en/sports/11227070

Although if you look at it, Picasso is still a super bantamweight fighter. What we wanted to see from Inoue is going into the US and then move up in weight at 126 lbs. So maybe fans are not going to be interested again if ever he pursue this kind of fights. Picasso though is the number 1 fighter in WBC, and rank 8 by the WBO.

It’s great that he’s fighting outside Japan, but come on, he still hasn’t moved up? It’s about time he steps up and challenges the champion. What’s the point of staying in the super bantamweight division when the results are so predictable? Another easy win is almost guaranteed, but it doesn’t really prove anything anymore. Time to take on a bigger challenge!

[Baofeng]

That is his plan, to fight in Las Vegas,

ESPN reported, "Naoya Inoue could play a neutral zone game against Alan Picasso (24, Mexico) in Las Vegas, Nevada in the spring of 2025." Picasso is one of the top five super bantamweights rated No. 1 in WBC and No. 8 in WBO.

https://www.mk.co.kr/en/sports/11227070

Although if you look at it, Picasso is still a super bantamweight fighter. What we wanted to see from Inoue is going into the US and then move up in weight at 126 lbs. So maybe fans are not going to be interested again if ever he pursue this kind of fights. Picasso though is the number 1 fighter in WBC, and rank 8 by the WBO.

It’s great that he’s fighting outside Japan, but come on, he still hasn’t moved up? It’s about time he steps up and challenges the champion. What’s the point of staying in the super bantamweight division when the results are so predictable? Another easy win is almost guaranteed, but it doesn’t really prove anything anymore. Time to take on a bigger challenge!

Yeah, he didn't mentioned anything about going up in weight class after his win,



But Bob Arum against says that they will be fighting in Las Vegas this spring in the US so I think that's good enough to hear and Inoue confirming it as well. It's perhaps the right opponents that they are going after and we can only hope that he will go to the featherweight division.

[passwordnow]

That's his style and being a cherry picker as they say is part of his strategy into his greatness but no doubt, he's a great and soon to be a legendary boxer.

Yeah, this is not UFC though, in boxing you can cherry pick your opponents, or at least facing a opponent that is totally mismatch with you. And I think that there are really that time of boxer that was being used just a stepping stone.

And those who are being called tomato can boxers or cab driver boxers in Mexico. No offense to them, but they can still earn a lot of money by facing up and coming champions and their names in the resume and maybe you can be proud of that when someone see your names let's say in Canelo's resume when he was just in the beginning of his career or even Inoue or Manny Pacquiao.

That's one way for them to reach the top, to challenge the champions. But it seems that these champs know how to handle it like the monster. They can't just accept anyone who's challenging him because there's for sure some twist and lucky punches that can be thrown still even if he's so disciplined and he can stand with anyone who's on the same division. If he ever moves up to another division, the higher one then let's see if he'll prove his worth but I believe him that he can.

[bbc.reporter]

Also Japanese records is nothing in boxing. The boxing mecca of the world is in Las Vegas but also recently, Saudi Arabia is beginning to be another destination for famous professional boxers because of the investment of the Arab master Turki. A boxer with the talent of Naoya Inoue will not be happy to break records only in Japan hehehe.

Maybe it triggered them to look for bigger promotions when Inoue wasn’t even included in The Ring Magazine’s Fighter of the Year list. If I remember correctly, Inoue has been a pound-for-pound champion, yet he didn’t make the cut. Maybe people started seeing him as playing it safe, often fighting boxers who aren’t top quality. It’s probably why the community showed him a dose of reality, as if to give him a wake-up call.

Agreed! Naoya Inoue's exclusion from the Ring Magazine's fighter of the year list was certainly a warning sign for his team that the talent of their fighter does not coordinate with the type of fights that are being promoted for him. This Japanese man should be treated very much similar to Pacman Pacquiao and take more risks.

We can be quite certain that if Naoya Inoue will continue to play it safe, he will be an old man who would have wished he took the risks similar to the risks taken by Pacman. A fighter with this talent of his should not become some similar to the scammer Tank Davis.

[Yaunfitda]

Also Japanese records is nothing in boxing. The boxing mecca of the world is in Las Vegas but also recently, Saudi Arabia is beginning to be another destination for famous professional boxers because of the investment of the Arab master Turki. A boxer with the talent of Naoya Inoue will not be happy to break records only in Japan hehehe.

Maybe it triggered them to look for bigger promotions when Inoue wasn’t even included in The Ring Magazine’s Fighter of the Year list. If I remember correctly, Inoue has been a pound-for-pound champion, yet he didn’t make the cut. Maybe people started seeing him as playing it safe, often fighting boxers who aren’t top quality. It’s probably why the community showed him a dose of reality, as if to give him a wake-up call.

Agreed! Naoya Inoue's exclusion from the Ring Magazine's fighter of the year list was certainly a warning sign for his team that the talent of their fighter does not coordinate with the type of fights that are being promoted for him. This Japanese man should be treated very much similar to Pacman Pacquiao and take more risks.

He as Ring Magazine's 2023 fighter of the year. This year he didn't win because it was Usyk who won the award. Although I will agree that he really need to take more risks fight and outside of his Japan. So he is not like being snubbed, but Usyk was more deserving because of his back to back wins against Tyson Fury.

We can be quite certain that if Naoya Inoue will continue to play it safe, he will be an old man who would have wished he took the risks similar to the risks taken by Pacman. A fighter with this talent of his should not become some similar to the scammer Tank Davis.

The thing though is that he is being handled by Bob Arum so he knows how to make such fighter great. But that is if Inoue is going to fight in the US and then Arum picking up his opponents that is really good in paper but they know that Inoue can easily beat that boxer.

[Kemarit]

Also Japanese records is nothing in boxing. The boxing mecca of the world is in Las Vegas but also recently, Saudi Arabia is beginning to be another destination for famous professional boxers because of the investment of the Arab master Turki. A boxer with the talent of Naoya Inoue will not be happy to break records only in Japan hehehe.

Maybe it triggered them to look for bigger promotions when Inoue wasn’t even included in The Ring Magazine’s Fighter of the Year list. If I remember correctly, Inoue has been a pound-for-pound champion, yet he didn’t make the cut. Maybe people started seeing him as playing it safe, often fighting boxers who aren’t top quality. It’s probably why the community showed him a dose of reality, as if to give him a wake-up call.

Agreed! Naoya Inoue's exclusion from the Ring Magazine's fighter of the year list was certainly a warning sign for his team that the talent of their fighter does not coordinate with the type of fights that are being promoted for him. This Japanese man should be treated very much similar to Pacman Pacquiao and take more risks.

We can be quite certain that if Naoya Inoue will continue to play it safe, he will be an old man who would have wished he took the risks similar to the risks taken by Pacman. A fighter with this talent of his should not become some similar to the scammer Tank Davis.

Still up to his manager Bob Arum, and it seems that Arum is hyping Inoue already and even saying that he is even greater that Manny at this point. Which for sure we know that is not true as Manny has been taking and risking his belt on big boxers.

Now it's a very different era, those boxers seems to developed that Floyd Mayweather mentality, that is to protect their 0 because having that 0 taken out, their value will go down. But that didn't happen to Pacquiao and to all other great boxers.

[bbc.reporter]

Also Japanese records is nothing in boxing. The boxing mecca of the world is in Las Vegas but also recently, Saudi Arabia is beginning to be another destination for famous professional boxers because of the investment of the Arab master Turki. A boxer with the talent of Naoya Inoue will not be happy to break records only in Japan hehehe.

Maybe it triggered them to look for bigger promotions when Inoue wasn’t even included in The Ring Magazine’s Fighter of the Year list. If I remember correctly, Inoue has been a pound-for-pound champion, yet he didn’t make the cut. Maybe people started seeing him as playing it safe, often fighting boxers who aren’t top quality. It’s probably why the community showed him a dose of reality, as if to give him a wake-up call.

Agreed! Naoya Inoue's exclusion from the Ring Magazine's fighter of the year list was certainly a warning sign for his team that the talent of their fighter does not coordinate with the type of fights that are being promoted for him. This Japanese man should be treated very much similar to Pacman Pacquiao and take more risks.

He as Ring Magazine's 2023 fighter of the year. This year he didn't win because it was Usyk who won the award. Although I will agree that he really need to take more risks fight and outside of his Japan. So he is not like being snubbed, but Usyk was more deserving because of his back to back wins against Tyson Fury.

We can be quite certain that if Naoya Inoue will continue to play it safe, he will be an old man who would have wished he took the risks similar to the risks taken by Pacman. A fighter with this talent of his should not become some similar to the scammer Tank Davis.

The thing though is that he is being handled by Bob Arum so he knows how to make such fighter great. But that is if Inoue is going to fight in the US and then Arum picking up his opponents that is really good in paper but they know that Inoue can easily beat that boxer.

I disagree. Bob Arum knows how to scam the fans into making it appear that the boxer is a very great boxer. However, the opponents of these fighters cannot give a similar level of popularity and greatness as Pacman. There is no risk being taken and if a superfight can be avoided, Bob Arum will certainly avoid any type of superfight.

Bud Crawford left Bob Arum because he was not very happy. This is a boxer who wanted to take the risk against Errol Spence, however, their promoters Bob Arum and Al Haymon were trying to avoid this until it cannot be avoided anymore. Bud and Spence would be 40 years old if this there were more chances to avoid hehehehe.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Also Japanese records is nothing in boxing. The boxing mecca of the world is in Las Vegas but also recently, Saudi Arabia is beginning to be another destination for famous professional boxers because of the investment of the Arab master Turki. A boxer with the talent of Naoya Inoue will not be happy to break records only in Japan hehehe.

Maybe it triggered them to look for bigger promotions when Inoue wasn’t even included in The Ring Magazine’s Fighter of the Year list. If I remember correctly, Inoue has been a pound-for-pound champion, yet he didn’t make the cut. Maybe people started seeing him as playing it safe, often fighting boxers who aren’t top quality. It’s probably why the community showed him a dose of reality, as if to give him a wake-up call.

Agreed! Naoya Inoue's exclusion from the Ring Magazine's fighter of the year list was certainly a warning sign for his team that the talent of their fighter does not coordinate with the type of fights that are being promoted for him. This Japanese man should be treated very much similar to Pacman Pacquiao and take more risks.

He as Ring Magazine's 2023 fighter of the year. This year he didn't win because it was Usyk who won the award. Although I will agree that he really need to take more risks fight and outside of his Japan. So he is not like being snubbed, but Usyk was more deserving because of his back to back wins against Tyson Fury.

We can be quite certain that if Naoya Inoue will continue to play it safe, he will be an old man who would have wished he took the risks similar to the risks taken by Pacman. A fighter with this talent of his should not become some similar to the scammer Tank Davis.

The thing though is that he is being handled by Bob Arum so he knows how to make such fighter great. But that is if Inoue is going to fight in the US and then Arum picking up his opponents that is really good in paper but they know that Inoue can easily beat that boxer.

I disagree. Bob Arum knows how to scam the fans into making it appear that the boxer is a very great boxer. However, the opponents of these fighters cannot give a similar level of popularity and greatness as Pacman. There is no risk being taken and if a superfight can be avoided, Bob Arum will certainly avoid any type of superfight.

Bud Crawford left Bob Arum because he was not very happy. This is a boxer who wanted to take the risk against Errol Spence, however, their promoters Bob Arum and Al Haymon were trying to avoid this until it cannot be avoided anymore. Bud and Spence would be 40 years old if this there were more chances to avoid hehehehe.

For me it's promoter vs the boxer, I mean Bob Arum even confirmed that he has lost money in promoting Crawford before, meaning he is not sellable to fans even if he is really that great. On the other hand, Crawford knows his value that's why he wanted to get away from Arum and chase fight that Arum doesn't want to because he needed more time to hype the fight.

And now we have another situation in Teo Lopez, I wouldn't be surprised that after his contract with Top Rank, he would go solo like Canelo as both are really very close right now. I don't know what probably Teo has switch coach or at least hire the services of Reynoso instead of his father?

[Jating]

Also Japanese records is nothing in boxing. The boxing mecca of the world is in Las Vegas but also recently, Saudi Arabia is beginning to be another destination for famous professional boxers because of the investment of the Arab master Turki. A boxer with the talent of Naoya Inoue will not be happy to break records only in Japan hehehe.

Maybe it triggered them to look for bigger promotions when Inoue wasn’t even included in The Ring Magazine’s Fighter of the Year list. If I remember correctly, Inoue has been a pound-for-pound champion, yet he didn’t make the cut. Maybe people started seeing him as playing it safe, often fighting boxers who aren’t top quality. It’s probably why the community showed him a dose of reality, as if to give him a wake-up call.

Agreed! Naoya Inoue's exclusion from the Ring Magazine's fighter of the year list was certainly a warning sign for his team that the talent of their fighter does not coordinate with the type of fights that are being promoted for him. This Japanese man should be treated very much similar to Pacman Pacquiao and take more risks.

He as Ring Magazine's 2023 fighter of the year. This year he didn't win because it was Usyk who won the award. Although I will agree that he really need to take more risks fight and outside of his Japan. So he is not like being snubbed, but Usyk was more deserving because of his back to back wins against Tyson Fury.

We can be quite certain that if Naoya Inoue will continue to play it safe, he will be an old man who would have wished he took the risks similar to the risks taken by Pacman. A fighter with this talent of his should not become some similar to the scammer Tank Davis.

The thing though is that he is being handled by Bob Arum so he knows how to make such fighter great. But that is if Inoue is going to fight in the US and then Arum picking up his opponents that is really good in paper but they know that Inoue can easily beat that boxer.

I disagree. Bob Arum knows how to scam the fans into making it appear that the boxer is a very great boxer. However, the opponents of these fighters cannot give a similar level of popularity and greatness as Pacman. There is no risk being taken and if a superfight can be avoided, Bob Arum will certainly avoid any type of superfight.

Bud Crawford left Bob Arum because he was not very happy. This is a boxer who wanted to take the risk against Errol Spence, however, their promoters Bob Arum and Al Haymon were trying to avoid this until it cannot be avoided anymore. Bud and Spence would be 40 years old if this there were more chances to avoid hehehehe.

Yes, but that's how boxing game right now, and that is why others says that boxing is dead because of this kind of promoters who doesn't want superfight to happen unless they know that they are  going to win.

And that's why Pacman is really a generational talent, and even if Arum thinks that he doesn't want to fight his big guys, Pacman might have insist to fight them. Or maybe we  the pay is not that good as he might have scam Manny as well or even if Manny is the A-side, he could still not getting the money that others boxers might have been getting in his stature.

Anyways, it's time for the OP to close this thread.