Implement stabbing.

[fillippone]

Besides, some might even do it out of jealousy or other emotions without even having any personal grudges or a history of arguments, etc.

I understand.
If you get a bad vote for obnoxiousness, I guess there isn't too much to do about that, but to expect that if this vote is not justified sooner or later this will be offset but contrarian votes, weighted or not.

[Alone055]

As User A, I will have a counter under my name like so:

obnoxiousness: -7.5 (9)

the number in () will portray the number of users who have given user A an obnoxiousness feedback.

1. The larger the number, the more serious the accusations are.
2. The final obnoxiousness level can scale more rapidly if the number in () is larger, or more slowly if it's smaller. Thus, the number in () can be a multiplier as well.

Yeah, I can already imagine the amount of minus obnoxiousness points some people are going to have based on their history in the forum and personal problems with other users. 

I understand.
If you get a bad vote for obnoxiousness, I guess there isn't too much to do about that, but to expect that if this vote is not justified sooner or later this will be offset but contrarian votes, weighted or not.

If such a system is implemented, there has to be a way to counter the problem I have stated above. I would never want my profile to get painted with negative obnoxiousness only because I had a heated argument with a high-ranked member because he didn't agree or like my point of view on a certain matter, nor would I want to have such results for trying to expose a high-ranked member for either breaking a rule, being involved in something suspicious, or doing something such as posting AI-generated content, etc. Even if the account is bought, it will still be able to ruin my profile based on the system and the rules we have discussed so far.

[franky1]

even just a obnoxious meter is just another core overlord way to recruit cult ass kissers and make people fear scrutinising devs, out of fear of being de-merited/stabbed for saying something against a ill intention dev..

if a core god overlord cant handle the heat maybe he shouldnt be cooking

devs should expect criticism and scrutiny, not look for ways to remove it or stab people for speaking up

we all know what gmax would really want is a ham radio squelch dial where he as mod can make people he doesnt like into white noise and stop it..

[OgNasty]

I got my account suspended for merely insinuating that I would punch someone in the mouth for lying if I saw them. It seems this forum’s stance on people getting what they deserve is anti and there is a zero percent chance something like stabbing would be implemented.

As always though, let me be the one to say that this forum doesn’t need more ways to express negativity. If anything, we need to find ways to bring more positivity to this forum.

[NotATether]

How about enforcing this rule for once?

3. No trolling.

It will drive a lot of people away from the forum and make people think that the mods are pro-censorship.

[franky1]

It will drive a lot of people away from the forum and make people think that the mods are pro-censorship.

they are pro-censorship, both personally and professionally..
and its not just their ego, its their agenda.. its why they fight so hard to be and remain as mods, they want to control the narrative and suppress any critique that goes against their corporate manifesto/roadmap

[mikeywith]

I’m not a fan of Franky; however, I find him quite interesting at times, despite his confrontational behavior. For someone in your position, it’s pretty normal to encounter people like Franky both online and in real life, you are going to have to stab a lot of people!

That said, the points Franky raises here are also discussed elsewhere where they are not being challenged, so I prefer to have them discussed here than elsewhere,  I personally believe everyone has the right to express themselves freely without losing merit or getting negative feedback.

[Agbamoni]

Even if you propose that there should also be a way for people to give them positive points to reduce their negative obnoxiousness level, it will still not stop the unfair usage of the system, in my opinion.

What we are doing is trying to introduce a third rank in the forum:

Please think about those who could be hurt more by this system if implemented. The system will favor those who are DT 1 or DT2 members. Imagine an argument between DT members if member A gives member B a negative obnoxiousness user B could give back and if inturn it exceeds that the trust system gets into use. They can both tag each other with their trust meter. But in a case where a member does not have any DT power he might be the one who loses at the end.

The trust system, merit system, and suggested obnoxiousness shouldn't be for fights in the forum. Its expected to be served with good reasons and not a personal conflict between two members.

[franky1]

I’m not a fan of Franky; however, I find him quite interesting at times, despite his confrontational behavior. For someone in your position, it’s pretty normal to encounter people like Franky both online and in real life, you are going to have to stab a lot of people!

i usually highlight issues initially without provocation, but when certain entities start trying to act a certain way, my intensity raises and when they get ignorant, abusive or just pander to their dev-god out of loyalty.. i dont back away. i dont fear idiots or those with agenda's.. if they have ego problems and just want obedience, then they have to learn how the real world works, its not my job to spoon feed them like a caring parent

if you want to avoid my harsh but needed pointing out of issues. simply think about what you are going to say and not just act like a sheep reading a script that sounds like it has some agenda behind it that does not help bitcoin(EG defending core devs even when said dev introduce issues into bitcoin code)

admittedly im not a boyscout/choirboy that uses pleasantries to garner fans of sheepish loyalty into a social cult of obedience..
im not here to make friends. im here to highlight issues that matter. .. because they actually matter
im not afraid to call people out, i dont need to play nice and cower to the governance of bitcoin authority(dev gods)

those that want to treat this forum as their social club of cabin fever obedience and entice their fans to ignore the things that matter, should never be the ones given a knife to stab people

..
freedom of speech exists to allow debate, review, scrutiny, critique between people to allow issues to be resolved/fixed.. however when we have dev-gods of authority with moderation power trying to hide/delete or avoid conversations of issues. ban any subjective discussions of issues and then want to threaten users with being stabbed.. that becomes an obvious problem where maybe its time the moderator steps down instead of escalating their ego trip

[Smartvirus]

I guess that’s why not everyone is weapons qualified!
That piece of metal gives you so much guts you would want to blaze it at any disgust in an attempt to show respect and simply that you can.
We don’t need any such technology in our world and certainly not on the forum.

The silent treat has been some of the means to put certain cases to sleep, it works like a good KO. Can’t say the feeling of a good old stab isn’t something but, really, don’t scar no man like that, we don’t need many grumpy faces around our world.