Some Random Thoughts on KYC and Non-KYC

[Oasisman]

there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

If an online casino doesn't require KYC, then it's the right thing to do not to assume thet don't really require it. I bet, most experienced gamblers already knew it, especially for those who have high bank rolls. Not only that they surprisingly require it if they detect something unusual to your account, but they normally do it when you have huge winnings.
Beginners may get confused with it.
Most casinos nowadays requires KYC as governments are constantly regulating them.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Non-KYC initially, more KYC when you win and try to withdraw. That's the normal gig.

Yes, that is the norm. There are also those that although they put an amount that supposedly triggers kyc in the ToS, they turn a blind eye to amounts above it. I guess the ToS is to cover themselves against anti-money laundering accusations. But as you say, it's normal that they don't ask you for documents until you've earned too much and want to withdraw it.

[cryptoaddictchie]

Thats a perfect disguise in my opinion. Non kyc but in the event you won a huge pot for any games. Like example $20k or more they will now emphasize on the need of KYC to claim prize or prove you arent suspicious player etc.

The time of non kyc is over. Well some still uses the marketing free kyc and this is just a front marketing for you to use. But always take note in the end youll do it anyway.

[Charles-Tim]

Most casinos ask for KYC in order for the gambler to deposit and withdraw.

When I registered on Stake, I was requested for KYC before I was able to deposit. But this is not common on most gambling sites. You will see many gamblers complaining that they have been losing after they registered and started gambling on an gambling site, but after they won some money and wanted to withdraw the money, that the gambling site asked them for verification. I do not know if this has changed on some gambling sites but it is very common that the gambling site will not ask for KYC during registration but if the gambler wants to withdraw, the gambling site will make it mandatory for the gambler to get verified.

[Ultegra134]

If you do a quick Google search, you will see that there are dozens, maybe hundreds of results for casinos without KYC on the first pages of the search.

I opened some websites and, as you said, I checked the terms of use... in fact, there are no casinos without KYC.

Even if they are located in a very permissive country or with more lenient legislation, it is impossible for them not to be bound by compliance with some requirements, mainly the one against money laundering, so at some point they will all need to ask you for at least one identification document.

But casinos that do not need to do this will eventually ask you for some document just to make the withdrawal process more bureaucratic.

There is no casino without KYC nowadays.

That's true; I actually stumbled upon a website claiming to list KYC-free casinos, but in fact, all of those that I opened mentioned the KYC requirements in their TOS; some of them were quite known as well, such as BC.Game or BetPanda. I believe some blogs create the misconception that KYC-free casinos exist in order to attract more people to their website, which is basically providing false information. Although I'm positive that such casinos exist, you should weigh the fact that it's unlikely that they are licensed and regulated, meaning they could go extinct the very next day. 

[Julien_Olynpic]

Any casino that said they can ask for KYC verification document is a KYC casino and not none KYC; anyone regarding it as NONKYC casino is just deceiving himself or herself.
 
I don't even think if there is any popular NONKYC casino that's active, even the web 3 casinos that come out with being non-kyc; most of them are already demanding KYC when necessary.

This is an important clarification and it is good that this topic has appeared. Indeed, there is a lot of confusion in the KYC situation. There are many sly casinos that position themselves as "Web3" or "casinos without KYC", but in fact, this is to one degree or another deceiving users. I would say that casinos should stop deceiving users and stop positioning themselves as "casinos without KYC", because they are not. Most likely, they need to position themselves as "casinos with a soft KYC policy".
Only completely unregulated organizations can be such and it is possible that they are scammers.
It is funny that today there is even an exchange whose name contains the magic phrase "Non-KYC", but at the same time the exchange asks you to go through this procedure when you want to create sub-accounts.

[KiaKia]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

In today's gambling world, it is either you stay unpopular and keep your no-kyc policy while running your online casino or swap popularity for the non-KYC which I believe will bring in loads of more income for the casino, gamblers will always gamble anyway, even if all available online casino is KYC compliant will it drive gamblers away? The answer is no, they will have to accept it.

Some casinos will ask for KYC if they smell something off or when you hit big money and you want to withdraw, and this shows that KYC verifications is already in place waiting to be used when necessary, there is still a thing about ToS till date, many gamblers still find it difficult to go through it because it looks like something that will take forever, but still it is far better to expect KYC requirements any time from any online casino.

[ethereumhunter]

Nowadays, almost casino will ask you to do KYC to prevent something illegal in their business. But I think some casino have limitation for their members for not doing KYC. Let say casino have limitation not to break $2,000 for depositing or withdrawing so you must not break that limit not to do KYC. But that will depends on if the casino modify their rules which they can do that easily and that is already happens. You are playing gambling in one or two casinos so that means, you must find out about KYC on that casino and know their rules. The limitation from casino helps small gamblers to keep playing gambling without doing KYC but in the future, that can be changed following the regulations from the government.

[Jawhead999]

Yes there's really a no KYC casino in this forum, no KYC means the casino will not ask KYC in any condition and situation, it's not written in terms.

If the casino ask KYC because the gambler is abusing their casino or related to criminal and it's written in their terms, it's KYC casino, there's no way to call temporary no KYC casino as no KYC casino.

[Kelward]

That being said, why should anyone see the need of depositing funds in a casino that isn't KYC-oriented? Do y'all know the dangers in doing that? First of all, these set of casinos aren't registered under any agencies hence, do not have any sort of license. That's more like playing mind games with your money, Unless you're just looking for ways to waste them.

KYC requirements have come to stay and if there's no sort of it's requirements in their TOS then you should think twice before using their sites to gamble. The reputable casinos that I know have KYC requirements so anyone that doesn't make requirements for it, even in the future should be critically examined whether it's a scam casino. Casinos have good reasons for KYC requirements, they have to adhere to regulations to curtail the use of their sites for money laundering by criminals. I'll feel better if a casino that I choose to use has requirements for KYC, it'll atleast show that they're not some random scam casino.

[lovesmayfamilis]

If a casino initially advertises itself that it does not need to ask for your documents, then you should always understand that this is only marketing, which is designed to attract customers. Moreover, if you are set to play anonymously in such a casino, you can also assume that it is in such casinos that very strict statistics of your games will be kept. Naturally, as is the fact that all casinos have a note that you can be randomly asked to pass a KYC check, you can understand that this will not happen by chance. Who goes to a casino that does not have a priority document check? Most of those players have something to hide, and therefore you should not be surprised that there is a strict check there. In any case, we cannot check whether the documents are checked randomly or consistently.

[passwordnow]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

When I've signed up for stake, it's actually a no kyc casino that I am happily using with my bets. But then, I know in fact that a day will come that they'll ask for some more verification and it did come. I think everyone is slowly accepting it that majority of the crypto casinos are starting from being a non-kyc casino and then sooner or later, because of some regulatory pressures, they'll have to ask their users to do it. Let's just take it that it's like a welcoming bonus when they're not yet asking for any verifications and welcome their users with no pressure about complying to KYC and verifications. But it's for sure that a time will come that they'll ask for it. Heard and seen about decentralized casinos long time ago but one problem there is the number of their players and sustainability is close to impossible.

[Botnake]

Yes there's really a no KYC casino in this forum, no KYC means the casino will not ask KYC in any condition and situation, it's not written in terms.

If the casino ask KYC because the gambler is abusing their casino or related to criminal and it's written in their terms, it's KYC casino, there's no way to call temporary no KYC casino as no KYC casino.

Some casinos are like that; they claim they won’t require KYC because they’re non-KYC casinos, but they still have the right to ask for KYC if they need to investigate an account. It’s absurd - they’re basically fooling us.

In the past, I’ve seen some decentralized casinos that were the real non-KYC options, but it seems like they’re not operating anymore from what I checked. That’s probably because regulations in this industry have become really strict. If they can’t comply with the requirements to operate legally, they’d rather shut down than deal with lawsuits that could be too costly for them.

[Cryptmuster]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

KУC casinos may not ask you for verification when you register and even when you deposit money into your game account, but when you withdraw your winnings, this may happen. This is why you need to read the user agreement to understand what you can expect. But even in those casinos that do not require verification, an automatic check may occur, the list of reasons, by the way, is also prescribed in the terms.

[btc78]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

that is the trick hehe,that other casino pretending to be kyc free but when need to withdraw? then there's the kyc implemented .

[Peanutswar]

People want to play for the non-kyc platform because they want to protect their information but how about the case if there's an issue with your account and you can't verify anything to claim that is your account at all, also the casino does not require a kyc yet if there's nothing wrong with your activity they just seek for the verification at least if they see something wrong with your account. Also you can use not your main email account to your gambling casino at all most of the time just level 1 is just the email address and phone number which is sometimes optional

[uneng]

Yes, there are non-KYC casinos, but they are minority and don't have enough popularity to compete against the big platforms for the public. Most gamblers aren't concerned about giving their personal data to online websites, so the KYC factor isn't a decisive one when deciding where to gamble. I believe KYC was a sensible matter in the early years of crypto industry, when it had a restricted portion of adopters adept of privacy and anonymity on the internet, so the services available had to fulfill the demands of that public. As consequence, we had many unregulated casinos (probably I couldn't even call them casinos, but dice platforms instead).

Nowadays, crypto industry reached another segments of society, and for these new adopters, privacy plus anonymity aren't important aspects to worry about. Therefore, neither casinos will worry about avoiding to introduce KYC feature. Even more because regulators' siege around gambling and crypto industry are getting harder these days, so if you want to operate your business legitimaly, you have to follow regulations strictly.

[Agbamoni]

Any casino that said they can ask for KYC verification document is a KYC casino and not none KYC; anyone regarding it as NONKYC casino is just deceiving himself or herself.
 
I don't even think if there is any popular NONKYC casino that's active, even the web 3 casinos that come out with being non-kyc; most of them are already demanding KYC when necessary.

Casinos do take KYC more important when it comes to matters that involve money/funds. From what I've heard, nowadays the gambling industry has shifted into gaming plus gambling into one platform which is the Web 3 casino, and no doubt it's generating a lot for the gambling industry. With that being said, there shouldn't be any form of KYC requirement when it comes to Web 3 gambling.

I don't even think if there is any popular NONKYC casino that's active, even the web 3 casinos that come out with being non-kyc; most of them are already demanding KYC when necessary.

MetaWin and 500 Casino are still no KYC casinos that are functioning right now and they are legit.

[Fiatless]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

You have raised an important point that needs clarification. Some casinos usually use slogans like "No KYC" to attract gamblers. But they are well aware that the government wants them to comply with Anti-Money Laundering (AML) laws within operational jurisdiction. That is why gamblers must take time to read the ToS before registering. A reputable casino will not deceive its customers about not requiring KYC, rather the stages of KYC are well spelt out. If you are not comfortable with the terms, you can decide not to register.     

[acroman08]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

they are probably out there but with the increase and strict regulation being implemented towards online casinos nowadays a lot of casinos have now implemented KYC into their casino in some ways, some might be lax with it to attract more gamblers, and people are also probably confusing that with casinos with no KYC.