Some Random Thoughts on KYC and Non-KYC

[Davidvictorson]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

[Orpichukwu]

Any casino that said they can ask for KYC verification document is a KYC casino and not none KYC; anyone regarding it as NONKYC casino is just deceiving himself or herself.
 
I don't even think if there is any popular NONKYC casino that's active, even the web 3 casinos that come out with being non-kyc; most of them are already demanding KYC when necessary.

[Jating]

Or maybe put it this way, there are no more casinos that are KYC free, every one of them are going to ask for KYC because it is already mandated by "regulatory" body. Maybe there could be threshold on some, but still, you are not in control here.

Maybe one day you will be asked to submit for reasons only known to this casino, i.e. maybe they suspect you that you are "cheating", or the source of your funds as per their fraud department as someone tainted. So there are a lot of reasons to suddenly required you to send them your personal information.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Yes... Look it up for yourself! Everything isn't necessarily a discussion. We've been talking about KYC verification, process, acceptance blablabla...in way too many topics.
There are instant casinos that don't require KYC or any sort of verification process, but how do you get identified by the casinos themselves? That's why there are called INSTANT CASINOS.

That being said, why should anyone see the need of depositing funds in a casino that isn't KYC-oriented? Do y'all know the dangers in doing that? First of all, these set of casinos aren't registered under any agencies hence, do not have any sort of license. That's more like playing mind games with your money, Unless you're just looking for ways to waste them.

[Wexnident]

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Huh, there are people who think that way? Pretty sure anything that asks for KYC at any point in time is a KYC casino no matter what. I guess if the information they ask varies then maybe, but as long as it touches anything that requires submission of valid documents then it's KYC.

In the first place non-KYC just means something like plug and play. Deposit money and start playing! Easy and simple. Withdrawing it can be another thing altogether though . Non-KYC casinos aren't really regulated or anything so trusting it would be something you just based on the casino itself and not any ruling body.

[Stepstowealth]

Are there really no KYC casinos?

The number of no KYC casinos must have greatly reduced to the extent that their existence is no longer popular because if they are known, they must respond to AML regulations to operate that require casinos to prevent people from using their platforms for crimes. The decision for a casino to have KYC documentation from the beginning at registration in their platform or at the point of withdrawal is still a managerial decision. The reluctance to obtain KYC information from the beginning does not mean that the casino is not interested in it, like a non KYC casino, it can just be their way to attract new gamblers and keep them.

[Kavelj22]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.

Generally speaking, KYC requirement is always an obligation from the activity licence issuer. And as user always look for the safe option, centralized casinos having licences are the best option.
It will always be better to deal with platforms that have an approved activity license than to use unknown platforms under the pretext of maintaining privacy. It is an illusion to think about privacy while using any central platform, especially since there are no alternative options. Furthermore, If any problems occur with the platform, the license can be withdrawn from it, and this is what any platform will avoid, and therefore it will avoid any problems with users in order to preserve its reputation.

I said "generally speaking" because we can discuss in another topic why/how authorities forces gambling companies to force KYC verification procedures to all active users. It's a delicate topic that may goes beyond what we are theorically talking about.

[Lida93]

For any casino that has operational licence from the reputable recognized body can't be said to be a no kyc casino even if they don't necessarily demand for it on your registration with them, still that doesn't mean in the near future something wouldn't prompt it. You can be working with a license and claim to be a non-kyc, that's fraud and an act of deception on the part of your users.

This days I think only none licensed casino can be said to be operating as a non-kyc casino but owing to the risk involved in using such "dark" casinos you may wanna go for those that are licensed with kyced-requirement.

I think people just misinterpret that the inattentiveness from any casino on them yet about passing kyc to mean that the casino doesn't require it. But just win huge money or raise some suspicious financial behaviour, and see for yourself what their next line of action might be.

[ralle14]

With off-chain casinos, it's impossible to find one that doesn't make use of KYC. Most casinos already transitioned to some form of KYC and those who haven't will make the switch at some point.

Others who continue to view certain casinos as non KYC probably overlooked that common KYC part from the casino's t&c.

Maybe those who mentioned it could be pre-existing casino users, I could imagine them taking it lightly since they got away with no KYC after signing up.

[asyakashi]

Each casino certainly has its own TOS, but most casinos will ask for KYC verification if you indicate fraud on our account, and large withdrawals, and for KYC and non-KYC casinos there is no need to debate if you play honestly your account will be safe, no need to worry.

[yahoo62278]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

Gamdom.com is one of the few casinos that have never mentioned KYC to me. They have a verification page, but I have never seen anyone complain they got asked for proof of funds, proof of address, proof of anything. Not saying they will never KYC anyone but for now I don't think they do.

There may or may not be anymore casinos out there that don't ask for KYC, but off the top of my head I cannot think of any. Most that do ask for KYC do not ask upon signing up.

[Darker45]

I remember what Freebito.in's TheQuin mentioned about KYC. It doesn't actually matter whether a casino does or doesn't have KYC provisions in its terms and conditions, they will ask for personal information whenever they need to. I guess a duly registered casino cannot entirely discount KYC regardless of their claims. After all, they're bound to follow regulations. Their license is at stake.

[SmartGold01]

What they does is that they don't request for kyc on little amount but when the winning seems to be mind-blowing then it triggers them to request for additional very and information to prove source of funds, which I think it's very annoying for a casino to say no kyc and then later to request for kyc. The fact is that there may be some hidden terms to apply when they say no kyc, that's why is important to always note the terms apply "when they says such". But just have to be prepared because most at times they can be very funny.

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Many casinos are often labeled as non-KYC, but in reality, it's more about the timing. Some sites won’t ask for verification up front, but they reserve the right to do so if they detect anything suspicious or if certain transaction thresholds are met. It’s like they keep it on standby, just in case. This setup probably gives a sense of freedom for casual players, but regular or high-stakes players may end up going through KYC checks anyway.

[alegotardo]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

If you do a quick Google search, you will see that there are dozens, maybe hundreds of results for casinos without KYC on the first pages of the search.

I opened some websites and, as you said, I checked the terms of use... in fact, there are no casinos without KYC.

Even if they are located in a very permissive country or with more lenient legislation, it is impossible for them not to be bound by compliance with some requirements, mainly the one against money laundering, so at some point they will all need to ask you for at least one identification document.

But casinos that do not need to do this will eventually ask you for some document just to make the withdrawal process more bureaucratic.

There is no casino without KYC nowadays.

[Hirose UK]

Actually there are casinos that really do not require KYC but I personally never care about all that because so far the casinos I use do have their own terms and conditions for KYC if needed, as gambler shouldn't have to worry too much about KYC because the most important thing is that the place can guarantee security, comfort and also give us certain benefits when using it.
Moreover, there are also many casinos that state that they are non-KYC in any form but in the end in certain conditions it turns out to ask for KYC for requirement in large withdrawal, this is always my consideration and it is better to choose those who clearly enforce KYC than to feel cheated when KYC is requested one day.

[Ararbermas]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

to be honest with you mate that is the thing that makes me feel unsafe when it come providing KYC when gambling .especially if I'm looking for a new very promising casino because you have feeling that what if they took your personal information then use it to scam other people.? That's very unfair in my opinion that is why i always overthink when providing Kyc. so i wish there are some legitimate casino's that don't require such stuff for our data privacy coz we have rights not to share it for protection and to make sure our information is safe from those scammer .

[kotajikikox]

I don't even think if there is any popular NONKYC casino that's active, even the web 3 casinos that come out with being non-kyc; most of them are already demanding KYC when necessary.

Most casinos ask for KYC in order for the gambler to deposit and withdraw.

It would be really good if there was a fully non KYC casino but I am guessing that most casinos even if they use crypto still require KYC due to regulatory requirements. Not to mention that this is also their way of avoiding any fraudulent activities from the gambler’s end. Without KYC also they won’t be able to verify if this person is of legal age and has enough money to gamble. I have seen some casinos where source of income is needed.

Though in the future I would hope to see a casino that would not need KYC upon registration and withdrawal.

[TravelMug]

Are there really no KYC casinos? Or do people confuse casinos that don't make KYC mandatory upon sign as non KYC when in fact when you read their Terms of service, there is a section that mentions that they can randomly ask for identification if they smell rat? I also think that unless it is stated clearly that non-KYC, don't assume it is. I am not for or against KYC or non-KYC casinos, it is just a curious question that I want to be discussed and get the opinions of others.
Thank you.

Gone are the days where we only our bitcoin address for withdrawal, regardless of how big the amount to withdraw. And we all know that gambling is one of the first use case of Bitcoin itself. And so when there are regulations by different world bodies, specially for AML, they will at some point in time will have to ask for personal identification.

So I would say that majority, specially new casinos that have been popping out like mushroom to ask for mandatory KYC. It's either gamblers accept that fact or just play in landbase casinos.

[danherbias07]

Non-KYC initially, more KYC when you win and try to withdraw. That's the normal gig.

A reputable online casino must implement the KYC rule when a gambler hits the taxation amount. They may let the small-time gamblers pass through without KYC yet but it's an accumulating process.
They will need that information if they want their business to keep on running because you will never know when something goes wrong. A gambler may suddenly lose his account and use it for money laundering so at least the real account owner could be contacted and prove the transaction. Sure, authenticators are very helpful but in this era, hackers and scammers are also getting wiser.