Bitcoin is the most profitable investment year to date.

[Saint-loup]

No single stock was included in the list. Only asset classes in general.

Speaking of MSTR though, watch for it to pass through $250 this week...

So it could be biased because if single stocks are not included, the asset classes should be compared to crypto classes or to all the crypto market no? Anyway it could be an answer to Peter Schiff who claims that Bitcoin don't follow the "upward momentum" seen in other Trump-related assets like stocks or real estate driven by the rising odds for a Trump victory in the POTUS election. Bitcoin doesn't follow closely this trend maybe just because it has already pumped before all the other assets and it's a bit overpriced for now.

 

[Z_MBFM]

The price of Bitcoin is very volatile due to which it is possible to make a good amount of profit from this investment. In addition, Bitcoin creates a new ATH every four years by halving the circle, making Bitcoin a higher APR profit than any other business or investment. and that's why people are getting deeply interested in Bitcoin day by day. and the more Bitcoin investors worldwide, the faster Bitcoin is growing.  So those who still invest in Bitcoin will also get a good amount of profit in the future. Because still only a few percent of people worldwide use Bitcoin. When more than 50% of people are interested in Bitcoin, the price of Bitcoin will be very expensive.

[PrivacyG]

While it has proved over and over again that it is an incredible investment, I still believe it is not for everybody.  If you forget for a minute about the incredible All Time High runs, the next big thing you can not ignore is its volatility and how rough and harsh a drop on the chart looks like for it.  Every time Bitcoin drops, if you saw the same graph on a general Stock you would think it is over.

Bitcoin is probably still going to be a very profitable Asset but you still need to have steel balls to roll with it and be able to control yourself too.

[Miles2006]

Bitcoin price prediction is everywhere mostly this month being one of the favorable month for bitcoin investors, let’s hope for more. No doubt bitcoin investment is profitable but, no amount of prove will be able to convince those who don’t believe in bitcoin investment. I will always say investing is a choice likewise the investment either bitcoin, gold etc. I’m sure bitcoin will yield more profit for those who invested earlier next year, we’ve seen the market grow this year but looking at the end it’s obvious bitcoin will make a good move now.

[passwordnow]

If there are people we want to convince to invest but who are still doubtful, we can point them to this thread. They can ask questions, and we’re ready to share facts with them.

Good idea but I don't want to convince any people anymore to invest in Bitcoin. If they will listen to us and follow our advices about buying Bitcoin and it's the best performing asset for this Q4 with that 49.2% return, they will do it as soon as they pick it up. But if they have a lot to say and keeps on reasoning, there's no need for us to convince them. It looks that we're too hard on them and we're pressuring them by convincing them to buy bitcoin. Once they understand that there's no need for us to be pushy on them and why we're like that while raking these returns and gains.

They'll be more curious about it and think that they're missing a lot of gains because the time keeps moving on while them, they're still in doubt. In my personal experience, I don't really convince my friends into buying Bitcoin anymore because it doesn't work for them but later on, they keep me checking because of the price movement that we're having right now.

That's how they'll be convinced, when they are checking the price and remember that we've told them to invest but they didn't obeyed.

[PX-Z]

That's obvious because of bitcoin's volatility, if someone invest bitcoin on october last year, their investment got doubled already just a year passed, that's pretty fast ROI record there. Unlike other type of investments ROI will comes in, 2-5 years. With this growth only matters is risk, if how risky you are to invest on such high volatility asset.

[GreatArkansas]

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If there are people we want to convince to invest but who are still doubtful, we can point them to this thread. They can ask questions, and we’re ready to share facts with them.

I don't think this is good advice because some people especially those new need first to study or learn what Bitcoin is, I highly suggest that those people who want to invest in Bitcoin must understand what and how Bitcoin works before putting their hard-earned money on it.

Consider also how volatile is this, before Bitcoin achieved that high returns/profitability, the road was bumpy, a lot of highs and lows, pumps and dumps.

[arjunmujay]

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If there are people we want to convince to invest but who are still doubtful, we can point them to this thread. They can ask questions, and we’re ready to share facts with them.

I don't think this is good advice because some people especially those new need first to study or learn what Bitcoin is, I highly suggest that those people who want to invest in Bitcoin must understand what and how Bitcoin works before putting their hard-earned money on it.

Consider also how volatile is this, before Bitcoin achieved that high returns/profitability, the road was bumpy, a lot of highs and lows, pumps and dumps.

beginners who still do not understand the movement of bitcoin prices, of course they will play it safe with a small portion of their investment. for example 70% they will put in the stock market, and then the rest will be put into bitcoin as a comparison between stock market investments and bitcoin. but I am sure, slowly while they learn with bitcoin investment instruments, there will be major changes and it is not impossible that their investment methods will be reversed. because some of our friends and even experts have also given what and how to invest in bitcoin.

[X-ray]

You know things getting real when anything that is connected to BTC been having positive news lately, el salvador paying off its debt, MSTR outperforming NVDA and so on.

I'm sure any institutional investors that have been investing in BTC are seeing their portfolio green and yet there will be some doubters out there saying BTC will fail, no it won't . BTC gonna outperform most of asset even in upcoming decades. the limited total supply will make it happen.

[BlackBoss_]

You know things getting real when anything that is connected to BTC been having positive news lately, el salvador paying off its debt, MSTR outperforming NVDA and so on.

I'm sure any institutional investors that have been investing in BTC are seeing their portfolio green and yet there will be some doubters out there saying BTC will fail, no it won't . BTC gonna outperform most of asset even in upcoming decades. the limited total supply will make it happen.

In bull market, we will have many good news with bigger magnifying effects than same news released in a bear market. Additionally, in months of a bull market, especially in a full market cycle, not a mini bull run in a bear market, ROIs for investors look very good. The bottom line is institutional investors have longer vision for their investment than retail investors or speculators, and they have deep budget as well as better capital management so that they are able to HODL for a longer period.

Trackers for investment portfolios and ROIs of Micro Strategy and El Salvador are very motivational successful investment stories.
https://saylortracker.com/
https://nayibtracker.com/

[CryptoBuds]

You know things getting real when anything that is connected to BTC been having positive news lately, el salvador paying off its debt, MSTR outperforming NVDA and so on.

I'm sure any institutional investors that have been investing in BTC are seeing their portfolio green and yet there will be some doubters out there saying BTC will fail, no it won't . BTC gonna outperform most of asset even in upcoming decades. the limited total supply will make it happen.

So far El Salvador is just focused on buying more bitcoins every day, they haven't sold any bitcoins yet, so I don't think paying off their debt and improving their economy is all thanks to bitcoin. MSTR stock has hit a new high but if you look at the market cap MSTR is only at $43 billion while NVIDIA is worth over $3 trillion, which is even double the market cap of bitcoin.

As we know Bitcoin is a potential investment and that is the main reason why we invest in it. But the development of each country and company depends largely on their business activities, and economic policies and not on bitcoin.
Bitcoin is the asset with the best growth and returns among most investments but people forget that it has the smallest capitalization among them so it is understandable why it has achieved such strong growth. On the other hand, due to the smaller capitalization, the growth will be better but this will make bitcoin riskier than other assets.

When it comes to investing, people will evaluate and consider many factors to make the right choice for themselves, not everyone likes volatility and risks like us.

[stadus]

But 2024 has not yet come to an end (why is NYDIG in a hurry?), which means that the results of the report will still change.

NYDIG released this report now to account for its investors and show the profitability of bitcoin? Are they afraid that the BTC-rate may fall before the end and the reports will not be so "beautiful"?

Obviously, the report starts with "year to date" to give a picture of what’s happening so far. This is called regular reporting; some reports come weekly, monthly, or quarterly, and these are considered consolidated reports if they have previous data as well.

I'm not sure we'll see a new ATH by the end of the year, but it will definitely happen one day (2025?).

Bitcoin's all-time high (ATH) is $73,835, and this year we’ve already touched $70k. So, another bullish movement could likely break that current ATH. With two months left in the year, it seems like it could happen!
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/121815/bitcoins-price-history.asp

Not data, but belief in future growth. What motivates new investors (including institutional ones) to buy it.

That's a false belief, you cannot just believe in one investment without considering the data first. Maybe at the early stage where we still have few data but now that we have different sources, reading them especially on the bullish reports will make us confident more investing in bitcoin.

There is no need to convince anyone, because those who need it will buy it without your advice.

Not everyone is familiar with Bitcoin, so if they don’t hear about it from someone or in the news, they wouldn’t know there’s an investment opportunity. Honestly, I have a lot of friends who are interested in investing in Bitcoin, and since I have some knowledge about it, I can educate them a bit -at least on the basics. And I would never just tell them to buy without sharing insights that could help them make an informed decision. I want to ensure they don't blindly follow their interests or others' advice without understanding what they're getting into.

In case of unsuccessful investments (for example, they were subjected to mass panic and sold bitcoin at a loss) on your advice, they will blame you for the failure.

Nah, I see what you mean. Advising doesn’t mean just telling them to buy; it’s about sharing the benefits, like the potential for profitability, while also educating them on the risks involved. Once they understand the basics of investing, they’ll recognize that the value can drop, just like in the stock market.

If people ask me how to educate them, I definitely wouldn’t tell them that Bitcoin guarantees profit. Instead, I’d emphasize that while it has the potential for high returns, it also comes with significant risks. It’s crucial for them to do their own research and be prepared for volatility.

[SquirrelJulietGarden]

Bitcoin's all-time high (ATH) is $73,835, and this year we’ve already touched $70k. So, another bullish movement could likely break that current ATH. With two months left in the year, it seems like it could happen!
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/121815/bitcoins-price-history.asp

Bitcoin's Market cycle.

Currently, Bitcoin is 13% loaded from its halving since April 2024.

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The history of market cycle can help us having ideas on how Bitcoin bull run lasts and how it ends in historic average market time length. History can repeat or can change, we never know what will happen in this market cycle that already made a first ever ATH before a halving in April. So maybe we will another new things in history of Bitcoin in 2024 and 2025, very last months of this 4 year market cycle.

A new ATH can be hit in coming months or not, but make sure you manage your capital and risk well enough to protect your capital either it is investment capital or trading capital.

[Frankolala]

With my common sense of reasoning, real estate such as rentage properties situated in massive and competitive regions in including stocks such as consumable commodities are also more profitable regarding that human first aid needs are accomodations and what to eat to sustain lives before chasing wealths.
So this sectors of investment to me is more profitable than Bitcoin regarding that there is intense of highily increases of inflations which has been more effective on the above mentioned Landed properties and Stocks.

I disagree with you that due to inflation, landed properties and stock are more profitable than bitcoin in recent years. Do you have any proof on this. Bitcoin in amongst one of the best and high profit generating investments since its creation till date. This is because, it is limited in supply and the halving event helps to trigger the price of bitcoin since miner's reward reduces in every four years. Decentralized nature of bitcoin and using bitcoin as an edge against inflation also contributes to the rapid growth of bitcoin in value.

[Taskford]

According to the latest report from New York Digital Investment Group (NYDIG), Bitcoin continues to stand out as the best-performing asset in 2024. Additionally, Q4 is expected to remain positive for Bitcoin’s price, despite facing various challenges.

https://beincrypto.com/bitcoin-best-performing-asset-2024/

With that information we see above, it shows that Bitcoin has had a very positive year, and the year isn’t even over yet. If it hits a new ATH by the end of the year, that percentage of profit will increase significantly. We should definitely believe in investing in Bitcoin since it's backed by data.

If there are people we want to convince to invest but who are still doubtful, we can point them to this thread. They can ask questions, and we’re ready to share facts with them.

Aside from that they can also point out this article created by coinmarketcap 13 days ago https://coinmarketcap.com/community/articles/670e5e59650acf586937ed0a/

Also this data https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/121815/bitcoins-price-history.asp

We can see with this that holders is truly gaining. If they are not sure on how they deal with bitcoin then provably these statistics can somehow prove that their wrong assumptions does not have any good basis. That's why before engaging for long term with bitcoin they should know the price history so that they would have strong confidence that bitcoin would perform more better in future.

[Lucius]

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If there are people we want to convince to invest but who are still doubtful, we can point them to this thread. They can ask questions, and we’re ready to share facts with them.

I have always been of the opinion that people should not be persuaded to invest in Bitcoin, because some of them will react very negatively to such "persuasions" - which has some logic if we take into account that there is a theory that says that the price of BTC rises only for reasons that those who have already invested are persuading others to do the same.

In addition, all the risks that come from trying to persuade your friends and acquaintances to do something are simply too great to be worth the risk. In addition to volatility, everyone is susceptible to hacking of any kind or even physical attack - and if that happens to them, guess who will be the first to blame?

Bitcoin is truly something that has exceeded most people's expectations when it comes to price growth, and those who realized its potential in time certainly have far better financial stability today than others.

[FortuneFollower]

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If there are people we want to convince to invest but who are still doubtful, we can point them to this thread. They can ask questions, and we’re ready to share facts with them.

I have always been of the opinion that people should not be persuaded to invest in Bitcoin, because some of them will react very negatively to such "persuasions" - which has some logic if we take into account that there is a theory that says that the price of BTC rises only for reasons that those who have already invested are persuading others to do the same.

In addition, all the risks that come from trying to persuade your friends and acquaintances to do something are simply too great to be worth the risk. In addition to volatility, everyone is susceptible to hacking of any kind or even physical attack - and if that happens to them, guess who will be the first to blame?

Bitcoin is truly something that has exceeded most people's expectations when it comes to price growth, and those who realized its potential in time certainly have far better financial stability today than others.

Price of BTC goes up as more skin is put into it by everybody - common people, whales, institutions, and so on. That's my view on it.
It got to the point of being able to be used as the reserves on someones national scales, that says a lot about its path that it took and still going.

[Swordsoffreedom]

With my common sense of reasoning, real estate such as rentage properties situated in massive and competitive regions in including stocks such as consumable commodities are also more profitable regarding that human first aid needs are accomodations and what to eat to sustain lives before chasing wealths.
So this sectors of investment to me is more profitable than Bitcoin regarding that there is intense of highily increases of inflations which has been more effective on the above mentioned Landed properties and Stocks.

I disagree with you that due to inflation, landed properties and stock are more profitable than bitcoin in recent years. Do you have any proof on this. Bitcoin in amongst one of the best and high profit generating investments since its creation till date. This is because, it is limited in supply and the halving event helps to trigger the price of bitcoin since miner's reward reduces in every four years. Decentralized nature of bitcoin and using bitcoin as an edge against inflation also contributes to the rapid growth of bitcoin in value.

From 2022 to now, the price of bitcoin has increased from $15k to $68k, which is an increase of more than 4 times. Apart from bitcoin, no other investment can do that, so it can be said that bitcoin outperforms every other investment, be it real estate or stocks of any company. But saying that it is the best investment is not entirely true, it is just an investment that brings high returns but comes with high risks.

Furthermore, using a highly volatile asset to hedge against inflation is neither a good idea nor a driving force behind bitcoin's value. Before bitcoin rose from $15k to $73k, bitcoin also fell from $68k to $15k in a short period of time. Bitcoin's volatility is too high to be used as an inflation hedge in the short to medium term.

[sarmrakib]

That's obvious because of bitcoin's volatility, if someone invest bitcoin on october last year, their investment got doubled already just a year passed, that's pretty fast ROI record there. Unlike other type of investments ROI will comes in, 2-5 years. With this growth only matters is risk, if how risky you are to invest on such high volatility asset.

We love btc and crypto market for its high volatility. We all have seen that how much investor got return after investing on it on low price. The price of btc is continuously climbing and breaking its own past low level. Remember we need to become patience after investing it for long term. Surely ot will help us to get a good return. Short term investment is highly risky on crypto market. Though its also profitable if you able to read market closely. We have seen on the trade how btc has broken its past level and continuously going up and year end. So meed to be wise entry to get a good return.

[adultcrypto]

I don't think this is open for argument because the data is out there for everyone to see. The case of someone purchasing pizza with 10,000BTC is a clear indication of how far bitcoin have grown in less than 20 year of its creation. I think bitcoin should be the biggest creation of wealth we have known in human history. Those who trust bitcoin, invested early enough and held till date have no business with poverty today. The opportunity is still there for those of us that are opportune to learn about bitcoin now and in some years in the future we will be happy for the actions we take today.