Artificial Intelligence Gambling Using Grok! (Results: 9/16)

[OgNasty]

I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

11/03/24 Result: 1/3
Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons

11/04/24 Result: 2/3
Boston Celtics beating the Hawks
Oklahoma City Thunder beating the Magic
Los Angeles Lakers beating the Pistons

11/06/24 Result: 0/1
Boston Celtics beating the Golden State Warriors

11/07/24 Results: 1/1
Milwaukee Bucks beating the Utah Jazz

11/08/24 Results: 1/1
Cleveland Cavaliers beating the Golden State Warriors

11/09/24 Results: 1/1
Chicago Bulls (+3.5) covering against the Atlanta Hawks

11/10/24 Results: 1/1
Indiana Pacers beating the New York Knicks

11/11/24 Results: 1/1
Oklahoma City Thunder beating the Los Angeles Clippers

11/12/24 Results: 0/1
Luka Doncic getting over 7.5 assists against the Golden State Warriors

11/13/24 Results: 0/1
Cleveland Cavaliers and Philadelphia 76ers scoring under on total points (218.5)

11/14/24 Results: 0/1
Dallas Mavericks (-8.5) to cover the spread against the Utah Jazz

11/21/24 Results: 1/1
Orlando Magic (+7.5) to cover the spread against the Los Angeles Lakers


Total Results: 9/16

[Perfectbaby]

I doubt if the results will come as you expected because live game is hard to factor out the outcome since you and I doesn't know exactly what the results could likely be. Now human can be more accurate that AI because it's limited to its programmed knowledge which deals with the computational data at the given time, and to me it works account to instructions. But however I wouldn't want to spoil the fun already and I hope you win as the AI already given you the out but you want to be sure, just know it's 50/50 chances.

[acroman08]

threads like this always interest me, there have been several gamblers in the past who posted threads saying they are using AI to predict who'll win but they seem to not update their threads regarding their bets and progress. it'll be interesting to see how AI will be fair in predicting match results.

[adultcrypto]

I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons

Daily Result: ?/3


Total Results: ?/3

I'm anxiously waiting for the outcome of these picks because there have been several discussion about the impact of AI in gambling but no one have actually provided any data to support their argument. Well, I have been sceptical about AI intervention on gambling, maybe this will change my mindset a little  if the result turn out great, even though the data is still very small to use in drawing conclusion. I wish you good luck on this adventure while waiting to see if we have found the secret code to winning gambling consistently.

[Charles-Tim]

I will like it if you can make a thread or use this thread for football/soccer Grok prediction. 99% of my bet is in football. And I can also find it exciting to follow the predictions and the matches outcomes.

It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.

[Wiwo]

Most likely the outcome won't be as expected because artifical Intelligence without human support will likely be useless, although I see we're you mentioned that you helped Grok! to select the games, which is a kind of support to me, but if also you look closely you will see that artifical intelligence use odds as the basic factor for selecting a winner which in some cases could be wrong.

Let see how the whole thing goes, and good luck to Grok, we await the outcome of those games, and this could be an exciting thread for further discussion on the activities of artificial intelligence in some other games.

[xLays]

Hey OG, I think it would be better if you also provide the prompt you use or the screenshot of your conversation between you and Grok. It's okay if you don't want to provide it. I guess it take a lot of work lol
Anyway, those are also my picks for today's NBA games. I'll follow this thread, I will only bet on those same pick. Hopefully this thread will last until NBA Finals.

[nelson4lov]

I've been one of the people that makes the argument that AI can't currently have a higher win rate than humans whether on sports betting or trading spot or future positions. I'm happy to be proven wrong if this experiment works. Even more so, I will be looking forward to more experiments like this. OG, if there's a next time, try to get other selections probably under/over totals along with the ML bet selections.

[Popkon6]

Betting is usually based on luck and in some cases experience can be used, but nowadays humans are more accurate using AI. But it is possible to win betting with artificial intelligence but seems mysterious to me, since artificial intelligence is limited by fixed knowledge. You notice how he focuses on that team if you bet on a live game, even though he has limitations in the knowledge he sets. 
But yes nowadays using advanced technology it has made the knowledge smarter but it is definitely possible, of course I think it's a chance to win but gambling usually focuses on luck that's why I think 60% to 65% win rate is possible.

[Weawant]

Even with a regular and normal human picks, gambling has never been completely accurate resulting from your picks, it only does when you  are lucky and so I can never assume AI to do any better because even with the prompts, AI will only make it's picks based off statistical information it's gotten and that will be more than enough reason it will not be accurate and ofcourse it's programmed by humans so they get the response to this prompts Influenced by statistics made available and prospective assumptions and not assurance so even the AI can only get lucky but not been accurate.

[Ambatman]

It would be interesting seeing the predictions of the AI on footBall(Personal bias playing)
Posting it's result and comparing to original score Would individuals here gauge it's capabilities
Maybe enable it grow too.
Having access to real time information can serve as an edge in predicting matches
Though Getting 100% is quite impossible, let's see if it can hit 70%
Well Only time will tell.

[Miles2006]

Wishing you best luck, I will love to see the final outcome which it seems the game might go as predicted. Despite the fact I don’t engage in AI service regarding my gambling prediction I might change my mind if this works. Definitely i don’t support AI accuracy 100% aside gambling, gambling can be considered as a different case but when the game is not in your power you have nothing to do rather just wait for the final result so AI can’t help in any situation relating to gambling win.

[SmartGold01]

I will like it if you can make a thread or use this thread for football/soccer Grok prediction. 99% of my bet is in football. And I can also find it exciting to follow the predictions and the matches outcomes.

It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.

Yeah same as me as well I love football and soccer it is more easier for me to join discussion that relates to it than any other, however it's extremely possibly for the results to be inaccurate as you said because it's not something that build to know the future and gives results accordingly but I am quite sure that most of the information are limited, so the results can be likely inaccurate.

[Akbarkoe]

I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

11/03/24 Result: ?/3
Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons



Total Results: ?/3

Very interesting, you develop AI for betting, this will be an interesting finding if Ai succeeds as you expect and Grok's predictions have a success rate above 70% of his predictions, it will be very interesting to continue and develop.

And did you think of trying how AI can play Slots, I think if it works it will be more popular if there is an AI that can play it and get consistent wins, although Casinos will be very careful about it.

[mv1986]

I've decided to let Grok do some gambling as a test to see how artificial intelligence would perform if given the opportunity.  I am only using simple bets, like who will win each game.  I will track the results here.

Starting things off, Grok has picked the following winners for today's NBA games.  I may have to evolve my prompt a bit to get Grok to pick someone other than who has the best odds, but we'll see how things develop.

11/03/24 Result: ?/3
Dallas Mavericks beating the Orlando Magic
New Orleans Pelicans beating the Atlanta Hawks
Brooklyn Nets beating the Detroit Pistons



Total Results: ?/3

What is the data that Grok includes in the calculations? Does it scrape the internet for all kinds of data or does it only use statistical data like points scored vs. points conceived and some other markers?

What I have been wondering about: bookmakers adjust their odds such that they also match player's decisions in order to make sure that they end up having a safe bet more or less. Correct me if I am wrong on this one. If now anyone would be using AI, couldn't they just counter that by determining the odds such that any perceived AI advantage decreases to a minimum for their customers? I mean if everyone uses AI, isn't it all about having the best AI? If it were to turn out that one AI has generated long-term value, wouldn't bookmakers just have to use that AI themselves if they had access to it?

But I think there are so many totally surprising results, also in football, that I doubt AI would be able to outcompete a well versed person on average. Because in football (Bundesliga Germany), wh would AI be able to tell me that Pauli wins away from home against Hoffenheim? Or why would it tell me that Kiel beats Heidenheim? Why would it tell me that Dortmund beats Leipzig? It could have easily ended in a draw if it wasn't for the nuances that made Dortmund win? What about all those games that are decided by a last second winner? Or the games when some important player gets an injury or a red card early during a game? No AI an anticipate that.

Looking forward to your results though, but hopefully you'll do it for a little longer as three games isn't enough to make anything out of the results.

[mirakal]

I doubt if the results will come as you expected because live game is hard to factor out the outcome since you and I doesn't know exactly what the results could likely be. Now human can be more accurate that AI because it's limited to its programmed knowledge which deals with the computational data at the given time, and to me it works account to instructions. But however I wouldn't want to spoil the fun already and I hope you win as the AI already given you the out but you want to be sure, just know it's 50/50 chances.

Still, gambling is based on luck so even if you follow AI or make your own game analysis, that won’t guarantee winning from your bets. But honestly, threads like this is also quite interesting whether AI will still be reliable enough. However, one thing is certain, even if you win at the moment out from using AI, the next game’s outcome will always be unpredictable. So you have to balance yourself, using AI at some point while you are also creating your own outcome analysis of your bet.

[Odusko]

I will like it if you can make a thread or use this thread for football/soccer Grok prediction. 99% of my bet is in football. And I can also find it exciting to follow the predictions and the matches outcomes.

It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.

Yeah same as me as well I love football and soccer it is more easier for me to join discussion that relates to it than any other, however it's extremely possibly for the results to be inaccurate as you said because it's not something that build to know the future and gives results accordingly but I am quite sure that most of the information are limited, so the results can be likely inaccurate.

the obvious truth is that, artificial intelligence won't work on sport bets, even if it works on other game's, the highest it can do is to provide the gambler with team analysis, and this analysis can not help the gambler to win the bets since sport most especially football match can and will never follow a pattern that can be understood and analysis by bots or artificial intelligence.
So let  not hoping for too much, since eventually there won't be any much positive positive results coming from this whole artificial intelligence thing as long as gambling is concerned, and even as much difficult as sport bet could be, so we shouldn't build castle in the air with false hopes of seeing this turning out to be anything worthwhile.

[_act_]

I've been one of the people that makes the argument that AI can't currently have a higher win rate than humans whether on sports betting or trading spot or future positions. I'm happy to be proven wrong if this experiment works.

The experiment can not work. But it can be good to use AI to aid your work. They can easily let you know the matches to pick from and make the work and analysis faster. But we are still over them because it is we that we decide which match to pick and which match not to pick. For overall pick no AI can be 70% accurate.

AI at some point while you are also creating your own outcome analysis of your bet.

I completely agree with this.

[OgNasty]

Not the best first day… I may have to try some fine tuning to the prompt…

[Pi-network314159]

It will not surprise me that Grok will be like prediction sites. The more you make use of it for more matches, the more inaccurate it would be.

Hahah that's exactly what I am thinking right now. Grok can not be smarter than human or will not provide a result Oder than the usual internet prediction site. I am just seeing another internet prediction here just as you said the more we make use of it, the more inaccurate it becomes. If the prediction is accurate today doesn't mean all other predictions will be same tomorrow.