Bitcoin Island

[roslinpl]

Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?

well maybe not a gov like we know it - but we need some members to keep eye on everything

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[analau]

Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?

well maybe not a gov like we know it - but we need some members to keep eye on everything

Yeah, everybody loves a policed island

[Bit_Happy]

We need more than one island.
That way it is not such an easy target.

[spazzdla]

We need more than one island.
That way it is not such an easy target.

Bitcoin barges.. ? Srsly though.  

[franky1]

the guys that come up with these bitcoin island idea's are usually the guys that:
1. dont have the funds themselves (usually under 3BTC to their name)
2. have never bought real estate or land in their life
3. have no development skills to get water, electric, internet set up on such an island
4. will 99.999% most propably walk away with other peoples money.

instead of having some anonymous guy ask for you to "donate" to him for an island project. how about getting a island / land selling agent to accept bitcoin (a proper legal estate agent) and then people can by into that. or get richard branson to offer vacations on his island for bitcoin, with the intent(signed contract) he uses the funds to expand his island or buys a second island for community use.

only noobs would donate to a random guy on a forum that had a brainfart, but has no real experience in such a matter, nor the collateral to back up their idea

[krodmandoon]

This great nation could easily adopt BTC and that nation is Sealand

I believe that their history and very existence aligns well with BTC.

We need to talk to Prince Michael Bates about this.

[teukon]

Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?

Thank you.

[Bit_Happy]

the guys that come up with these bitcoin island idea's are usually the guys that:
1. dont have the funds themselves (usually under 3BTC to their name)
2. have never bought real estate or land in their life
3. have no development skills to get water, electric, internet set up n sch an island
4. will 99.999% most propably walk away with other peoples money.

instead of having some anonymous guy ask for you to "donate" to him for an island project. how about getting a island / land selling agent to accept bitcoin (a proper legal estate agent) and then people can by into that. or get richard branson to offer vacations on his island for bitcoin, with the intent(signed contract) he uses the funds to expand his island or buys a second island for community use.

only noobs would donate to a random guy on a forum that had a brainfart, but has no real experience in such a matter, nor the collateral to back up their idea

Doesn't even need to be an island.
They take BTC here now:
http://galtsgulchchile.com

[S4VV4S]

That is a great idea but....
who is going to stop Obama from invading or starting a war against you?

^^^ Good question!!!

[analau]

Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?

Thank you.

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/pdf_books/civildisobedience.pdf

[lynn_402]

Great idea, perhaps we can find inspiration from Atlas Shrugged's capitalist utopia?

[Swordsoffreedom]

the guys that come up with these bitcoin island idea's are usually the guys that:
1. dont have the funds themselves (usually under 3BTC to their name)
2. have never bought real estate or land in their life
3. have no development skills to get water, electric, internet set up on such an island
4. will 99.999% most propably walk away with other peoples money.

instead of having some anonymous guy ask for you to "donate" to him for an island project. how about getting a island / land selling agent to accept bitcoin (a proper legal estate agent) and then people can by into that. or get richard branson to offer vacations on his island for bitcoin, with the intent(signed contract) he uses the funds to expand his island or buys a second island for community use.

only noobs would donate to a random guy on a forum that had a brainfart, but has no real experience in such a matter, nor the collateral to back up their idea

The random guy has been chosen

Franky do you want to go buy the island ^_^

But I agree this topic comes up a lot at least Finshaggy has a business plan for his bitcointown and a 16 set video series lol.

[franky1]

the guys that come up with these bitcoin island idea's are usually the guys that:
1. dont have the funds themselves (usually under 3BTC to their name)
2. have never bought real estate or land in their life
3. have no development skills to get water, electric, internet set up n sch an island
4. will 99.999% most propably walk away with other peoples money.

instead of having some anonymous guy ask for you to "donate" to him for an island project. how about getting a island / land selling agent to accept bitcoin (a proper legal estate agent) and then people can by into that. or get richard branson to offer vacations on his island for bitcoin, with the intent(signed contract) he uses the funds to expand his island or buys a second island for community use.

only noobs would donate to a random guy on a forum that had a brainfart, but has no real experience in such a matter, nor the collateral to back up their idea

Doesn't even need to be an island.
They take BTC here now:
http://galtsgulchchile.com

or help the lobbying to get New Hampshire. USA, to be more free from corporate banking laws and be more bitcoin friendly
or help Hull, UK to use a blockchain for local transactions instead of bank accounts owned by international corporations.

no point making an island to throw everyone onto. its better to change the towns/states to be bitcoin friendly.

[successquik]

Jekyll Island? LOL

SQ

[Elwar]

Great idea! Go find a piece of land over -200 ft sea level that is not owned by a government and get back to us.

Hint: no land exists that is not controlled by a government (not even land underwater other than several miles deep hundreds of miles away from land)


However...there are some projects in the works.

For a small piece of land where bitcoin is accepted, as has been mentioned before there is:
http://galtsgulchchile.com

For a project to dock a ship in international waters outside of prosperous cities (accepting bitcoin donations):
http://blueseed.co/

For a project to create a floating platform under no government rule (eventually):
http://www.seasteading.org/floating-city-project/


Finally, when it comes to coordination...I hope to set up a Pool for those interested in such a venture when I open the BitPools site (a few weeks). Doing so does not put money into one person's hands while trying to figure out what everyone wants.

[Lannister]

nice idea
but who will be a president of that new country? Max Keiser? 

no problem

1. find small country with financial problems
2. find whale with lotsa btc
3. bring them together

cyprus maybe?

[misternanyte]

We should amass bitcoins and buy an island.. make it a country and have it's currency BTC.  That is all.

yes great Idea, lets make btc stores and jobs, [font size=20]btc mini gov.[/font]  I like this idea, More Ideas, how come and live there when is ready.

Are you fucking kidding me? The meaning of government is LITERALLY "service to the people". They pay us with their service, we give them nothing. The only reason we'd ever need to give them money is for them to do a specific job for us. So say you want to lobby for a certain type of new weapon on the market so that you could ensure the politicians the new weapons are legal and safe (as in no intrinsic hazard to other people - an example of a hazard would be uranium shells which could kill everyone in the neighborhood just by sitting there and doing nothing except emit cancer causing radiation). You could pay the man to look at the bill first. But you'd just be part of a priority list and you can't ask them to get to yours first over the other bills on the priority list. A bill can take awhile to read and disrupts them from doing their other work, so i don't see why they couldn't ask YOU to pay them. Beyond that, government service is just a job. It's like keeping a homestead running. you just gotta do it... and in a taxless libertarian society you won't be required to work for the government (taxes) so you don't have to sell your crops if you don't want to. But your farm life is yours and yours alone, so your responsibility is to take care of it. Farming your own crops does not have intrinsic value other than putting food in your stomach. No one really owes you something for taking care of yourself.

In the normal sense of the word government it is a humble and fee-less service designed to HELP the people and to LISTEN to the people, as the PEOPLE are the boss, not the government. The government should have absolutely NOTHING to do with ANY currency, whether it's USD fiat, or Bitcoins.

[franky1]

Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?

well maybe not a gov like we know it - but we need some members to keep eye on everything

make every resident accountable. they all do weekly voting on certain island agenda's.

after all it wold be an island of a small population, not a 70 million population country that needs a small committee to be the voice/representation of the many to keep debates controllable and civil.

and all bitcoiners would be smart enough to vote using a blockchain.

[spazzdla]

Great idea! Go find a piece of land over -200 ft sea level that is not owned by a government and get back to us.

Hint: no land exists that is not controlled by a government (not even land underwater other than several miles deep hundreds of miles away from land)


However...there are some projects in the works.

For a small piece of land where bitcoin is accepted, as has been mentioned before there is:
http://galtsgulchchile.com

For a project to dock a ship in international waters outside of prosperous cities (accepting bitcoin donations):
http://blueseed.co/

For a project to create a floating platform under no government rule (eventually):
http://www.seasteading.org/floating-city-project/


Finally, when it comes to coordination...I hope to set up a Pool for those interested in such a venture when I open the BitPools site (a few weeks). Doing so does not put money into one person's hands while trying to figure out what everyone wants.

I like this floating city idea the best..

Furthermore.. I am an Electrical Technologist, I could Design, purchase and install an electrical system on an Island.. I have real life skillz.

[roslinpl]

Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?

well maybe not a gov like we know it - but we need some members to keep eye on everything

make every resident accountable. they all do weekly voting on certain island agenda's.

after all it wold be an island of a small population, not a 70 million population country that needs a small committee to be the voice/representation of the many to keep debates controllable and civil.

and all bitcoiners would be smart enough to vote using a blockchain.

Yeah well. This sounds good
What would be a population you think? How many Bitcoin users are here with us?
@Bitcointalk we have ~302k registered users, perhaps some of them are no longer visiting Bitcointalk, but ~302k.
+ those who haven't yet registered @Bitcoin talk - maybe a 1 million?

It's like my home city population it is not that small we will have time indeed to keep everything in our hands

Our only work will be mining and taking care of the island and other people.