Bitcoin Island

[BADecker]

no shit, i built a quantum computer that doesn't actually use electricity (all my work is done quantumlly thanks to this great Albatron motherboard   

Actually, this isn't a bad thought. A computer built on sound would be naturally quantum. Here's what I mean. Sound and electromagnetic vibration are more or less the same thing. They are vibration of particles, which are themselves vibration across the phases of the "aether."

Check into it. Anyone can build a "sound" computer at home by pin-point layering auto-body resins with different "impurity substances" placed in them to cause different vibrational frequencies. Electronics are not needed, but are helpful for detecting changes in the sound vibrations.

[Bitcoin Magazine]

i've got 2140 BTC to spend on volcano's, or whatevers god wants to put there

[BADecker]

[...] Democracy means that if 51% of the people decide on something, the 49% have to follow, even if they are adamantly against it. [...]

not. that stoneage. mayority-votes lead systemically to building parties and fight over power. it is really out of date. They don't teach you the good stuff in their institutions.

If you have to learn how to understand government, it is too complicated already. All of us are reasonably smart. We all understand when things are right and when they are wrong, if we have all the details. Make it simple, or it will always be prone to corruption.

For example, the Constitution of the United States is reasonably simple when compared with all the laws and codes. Somewhere in the range of 99+% of the codes and laws are unnecessary. Democracy and voting are the things that generally try to encroach on the freedom of others by introducing laws and codes.

[BADecker]

We need more than one island.
That way it is not such an easy target.

Actually, we need a floating island, so that all the subs of all the nations can blast our bottom out from under us.

[BADecker]

In the normal sense of the word government it is a humble and fee-less service designed to HELP the people and to LISTEN to the people, as the PEOPLE are the boss, not the government. The government should have absolutely NOTHING to do with ANY currency, whether it's USD fiat, or Bitcoins.

Actually, a government may need a currency to make trading between its departments easier. The people should not be required to use it. Of course, the people are idiots and will go and voluntarily make agreements with government anyway. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc11mJGre10.

[BADecker]

Why do you have to go and ruin a perfectly good island by creating a government there?

well maybe not a gov like we know it - but we need some members to keep eye on everything

make every resident accountable. they all do weekly voting on certain island agenda's.

after all it wold be an island of a small population, not a 70 million population country that needs a small committee to be the voice/representation of the many to keep debates controllable and civil.

and all bitcoiners would be smart enough to vote using a blockchain.

Did you say "make?" as in "force?"

Hey, it was swell knowing you. Perhaps again sometime.

[BADecker]

I have been down this road before. Much further than just chatting about ideas online.

As part of the Free State Project a group of us were going to work on buying land for a "free town" type of project. Discussion went on for months. We weighed different parts of the state with graphs and voting numbers and laws and every type of analysis we could come up with.

Finally we determined that if 50 of us put in $10k each we would have enough to buy a large lot of land that could be divided between us with the goal of around 5-10 acres each. So we had one guy who lived in the state who's dad did that type of real estate business himself who was just getting into starting his own business start working on setting things up for us. He set up a corporation and started setting out to find land. He had a contract written up and asked for people to start submitting their checks, with a signed contract from him and us.

It ended up with just 2 of us (me and another couple) sending him $10k. Meanwhile he's driving all over the state taking pictures and talking to land owners, sending us everything we want, but nobody else ponied up any cash. He ended up giving the money back, losing out on time and money.

It ended up that everyone was all talk with no ability to actually invest in such an idea. The discussions died off and that was the end of it.

That is why I started working on BitPools. Where you can keep your bitcoins in your wallet but can pledge your money toward such a goal. If enough people pledge to the point that it is a viable possibility it is only then that people will start working on actual proposals. Then people can vote with their bitcoin on whichever idea they like best and the project gets funded.

Well I know that making this idea come true is not too easy and finding people who will really pay for this will be hard.

I must say, I haven't got even 100$ in that moment, so I know that all those are dreams for me - but my dreams sometimes come true
So I believe that this is possible - just more people need to join this idea.

So why is it that all kinds of folks ponied up multiple $thousands to buy Bitcoin? There isn't anything substantial backing Bitcoin. Land is always there. If the Internet or the power grid failed, Bitcoin could conceivably be gone. Land is always there. Do you think the land people maybe used the wrong approach? (Mastercoin Counterparty)

[BADecker]

We should amass bitcoins and buy an island.. make it a country and have it's currency BTC.  That is all.

We should amass bitcoins and make the land we live on already less like a country. And take a holiday on the said island once in a while.

And there are ways to do it. Ways to make it legal to drink unpasteurized milk. Ways to trade property without sales tax. Ways to avoid property tax and income tax on the use of the property.

Bitcoin is an innovation. Counterparty and Mastercoin are innovations built on Bitcoin. MaidSafe is coming.

It seems that the people who know how to work with land, and the people who know the best ways of owning land, and the people who know the major loopholes around the taxes, are not all that interested in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the key that ties it all together, at least until MaidSafe is fully online and operating worldwide.

[TippingPoint]

[Bit_Happy]

Fatu Hiva



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatu_Hiva

33 square miles

population < 600

Looks like a nice place.
Are those < 600 friendly or blood thirsty?

[Sithara007]

Looks like a nice place.
Are those < 600 friendly or blood thirsty?

The native Marquesans of that region were famous for their cannibalism in the 18th and 19th centuries. 

[bryant.coleman]

The native Marquesans of that region were famous for their cannibalism in the 18th and 19th centuries. 

Some people think that it is even continuing to this day. 

http://www.divetravelbusinessnews.com/article/avid-diversailer-feared-eaten-cannibals-marquesas-islands

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/8831702/Tales-of-cannibalism-from-the-South-Pacific.html

[pungopete468]

Fatu Hiva



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatu_Hiva

33 square miles

population < 600

Isn't that where they host the Mortal Kombat?

[Elwar]

Fatu Hiva



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatu_Hiva

33 square miles

population < 600

In French Polynesia, a territory of France.

[bryant.coleman]

Isn't that where they host the Mortal Kombat?

Nope. Mortal Kombat takes place in a fictional universe consisting of six surviving realms. 

[Bit_Happy]

The native Marquesans of that region were famous for their cannibalism in the 18th and 19th centuries. 

Some people think that it is even continuing to this day. 

http://www.divetravelbusinessnews.com/article/avid-diversailer-feared-eaten-cannibals-marquesas-islands

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/8831702/Tales-of-cannibalism-from-the-South-Pacific.html

The search for BTC island goes on.

[CryptoPanda]

We are gonna need some missiles and shit to defend our sovereignty  though

[pungopete468]

We are gonna need some missiles and shit to defend our sovereignty  though

If you can dream it we can build it. Geeks will own the world when they learn that knowledge is more powerful than money.

[blacksails]

We are gonna need some missiles and shit to defend our sovereignty  though

Shouldn't we instead be a non-militaristic nation? You know, no weapons, no army?

[Acidyo]

I'll move in.

I will work for 0.2 btc/day.