🚨 STAKE.COM’S RTP IS A SCAM! MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE!

[noviesol]

Are you both talking to yourselves? It's clear that neither of you has disproven any of my claims.

Your claims were thoroughly disproven on Page 1 of this thread. You tried to claim that house edge was calculated using wins and losses, and then several different people kept trying to explain to you what house edge actually was for the next 14 pages. All you did in response was use Grok to insult the people who were proving you wrong.

None of the attackers were able to explain anything!

None of the attackers were able to answer this simple question:

How does the casino collect the house edge?

A) Reduces the house edge from every bet amount

B) Via the number of bets a player loses more than it wins

If someone does not know how the casino collects the house edge, it logically isn't qualified to contribute in this thread!

Let alone explain something.

If someone is not qualified to post in this thread, it does nothing but spamming here!


Let us not forget your nonsense answer:

Please answer the following question:

How does the casino collect the house edge?

A) Reduce or substract 0,5% from every bet

B) Reduce or substract 0,5% from the total amount wagered

C) Via the number of bets a player loses

The correct answer is D) None of the above.

That clearly confirms that you are not qualified to post in this thread.

Sure, keep believing this u and KingBJ are the only one supporting this theory. I cannot produce another person that backs your claims.

[nutildah]

Let us not forget your nonsense answer:

Ask a nonsense question, get a nonsense answer.

That clearly confirms that you are not qualified to post in this thread.

Its funny that you present yourself as an expert in anything relevant, but really you're just an expert in trollish ass-hattery.

Sure, keep believing this u and KingBJ are the only one supporting this theory. I cannot produce another person that backs your claims.

That's true -- not a single person has come to the defense of either of these fools. Whatever they think they are doing has backfired massively as nobody will ever believe a single thing they have to say for the rest of their Bitcointalk careers.

[BlackyJacky]

But the key difference is learning to accept a loss and moving on, something KBJ should take note of

You yourself are not able to accept your loss, but at the same time demand from other victims to accept their losses!

This is pretty much a stupid little sickheaded style! 

[BlackyJacky]

Let us not forget your nonsense answer:

Ask a nonsense question, get a nonsense answer.

The question how the casino collects the house edge is essential for this thread.

If this essential question is nonsense for you, then you are the nonsense!

[nutildah]

The question how the casino collects the house edge is essential for this thread.

Anyone who honestly wants to know this can find the answer on their own. You, however, are not interested in being honest.

If this essential question is nonsense for you, then you are the nonsense!

If you were me, then I'd be you, and I'd use your helicopter to get to the top of the mountain!

See the problem here is, no one engages, he bumps his thread with his alt to lure other poor sops into his conspiracy theories

They think its making Stake look bad, but from the first page of the thread its pretty easy to see that neither account has any clue what they're talking about.

[BlackyJacky]

Let us not forget your nonsense answer:

Ask a nonsense question, get a nonsense answer.

The question how the casino collects the house edge is essential for this thread.

If this essential question is nonsense for you, then you are the nonsense!

See the problem here is, no one engages, he bumps his thread with his alt to lure other poor sops into his conspiracy theories
At least start by banning his obvious alt so we can ignore him and let the thread die.

OP can bump this thread every 24 hours and there is no need to answer to hallucinated nonsense to bump it.

But looks like OP has given up and I am the only one informing about Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack since 2,5 years:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2178857.msg65305860#msg65305860

[AHOYBRAUSE]

OP can bump this thread every 24 hours and there is no need to answer to hallucinated nonsense to bump it.

But looks like OP has given up and I am the only one informing about Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack since 2,5 years:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2178857.msg65305860#msg65305860

So cute how he talks about "OP" like he would be a different person, hahaha. Impossible to find 2 people in this forum that both don't understand the difference between house edge and expected win/loss ratio. And I am talking about WIN/LOSS, not profit/loss.
The spamming never ends so it seems. 

[BlackyJacky]

The question how the casino collects the house edge is essential for this thread.

Anyone who honestly wants to know this can find the answer on their own.

The self-proclaimed but not qualified online casino dispute mediator @HolyDarkness said the following in regard to the house edge:

Hmm... must be fun to live in the world inside your head where you're always right and when someone pointed out that you're not, either ignore the fact [because you're always right, so you shouldn't address the matter where they show that you're not] like when you try to point out my "fun fact" that stake routinely scan this board, which I then show the full statement made by the rep herself, which prove that the "fun fact" is actually a, well, "fact", or, when an ADR refuse to mediate due to the lack of evidence, they're stupid.

Comparing CG to police is misleading... is it, though? Try to go to the police and accuse someone without concrete evidence, see if they'll take your case seriously.

By "your concrete evidence", I believe we all [but you] understand that what you served them --if we compare to what you tried to serve to CG on your thread there, as well as here in those wall of text and numbers-- are not valid as a compelling prima facie because well, your understanding of how the system works is wrong, but then again, in the world you're living inside your head, you're the one who always right. Even three AI and other people are wrong.

"Fun fact": this phrase kept repeating in my head while I write this post, "off with his head!", I guess I know why, LOL.

According to her, only I believe that the casino collects the house edge via the number of bets a player loses more than it wins.

This is contradictory to your claim that anyone who honestly wants to know this can find the answer on their own!

Casino Clown also was not able to find it or is intentionally publicly lying about it!

[BlackyJacky]

OP can bump this thread every 24 hours and there is no need to answer to hallucinated nonsense to bump it.

But looks like OP has given up and I am the only one informing about Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack since 2,5 years:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2178857.msg65305860#msg65305860

Impossible to find 2 people in this forum that both don't understand the difference between house edge and expected win/loss ratio.

What is the difference between house edge and expected win/loss ratio?

Do you know how the casino collects the house edge?

[BlackyJacky]

Bad news for the attackers and nonsense hallucinators!  

The Curacao Gaming Authority (CGA) just confirmed that I have a claim against Stake:

Thank you for contacting the Curaçao Gaming Authority (CGA).

Your message will be forwarded to the relevant department for review.

If further information is needed, we may reach out to you.

Please be aware that, in cases involving complaints related to gambling activities, the CGA does not have the authority to mediate disputes between players and gaming operators. As such, we do not handle complaints on an individual basis.

However, your complaint is valuable to us, as it may highlight potential breaches of the law by operators.

If such violations are identified, appropriate enforcement measures will be taken.

Please note that we cannot provide you with updates on the status of any ongoing investigations or actions.

If you wish to pursue your claim further, we recommend seeking legal counsel.

We appreciate your understanding.

Best regards,

Below is the information and proof I sent to them about Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack:

Info 1)

The advertised house edge for Stake's in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means long-term I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

However, if you take a look at my Stake bets statistics here https://ibb.co/Hxf8NpR you can see the following total numbers:

Bets: 180,904

Wins: 78,285

Losses: 86,612

If we reduce the number of wins from the number of losses, we can see that I lost 8,327 bets (86,612 minus 78,285 = 8,327)

Losing 8,327 bets out of 180,904 bets placed = 4,6% of the bets lost.

0,5% house edge out of 180,900 bets placed I should lose 900 bets + a possible small deviation.

8,327 bets lost - 900 bets I should lose = 7,427 bets too much lost.


Info 2)

Bets

After 180,900 bets, the maximal possible deviation from the expected outcome is 0,4%, according to the law of large numbers (See Info 3) below).

180,000 bets x 0,4% = 720 bets I could maximal additionally lose on top of the 900 bets I will lose based on the 0,5% house edge.

7,427 bets too much lost minus 720 bets I can additionally maximal lose = 6,707 bets = additional 9,3 times on top of the maximal possible deviation!

House edge

0,5% house edge = 900 bets plus 720 bets maximal possible deviation = 80% additional maximal possible deviation from the house edge.

0,5% house edge plus 0,4% (80% additional maximal possible deviation) = 0,9% maximal possible experienced house edge!

Experienced house edge 4,6% minus 0,9% maximal possible experienced house edge = 3,7% additional experienced house edge!

3,7% additional experienced house edge : 0,4% additional maximal possible deviation = additional 9,3 times on top of the maximal possible deviation!

Stake's own bets statistics is 100% proof that their in-house Black Jack system is rigged!


Info 3)

When the house edge is 0,5% and you placed 180,900 bets, you will lose 900 bets and the remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips.

The remaining 180,000 bets are coin flips, because you will win 50% = 90,000 bets and lose 50% = 90,000 bets.


Now let's take a look at the technically maximal possible deviation for 180,000 coin flips:

A) Standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 212 coin flips = 0,12% (In 68% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0,12%)

B) 3 times standard deviation for 180,000 coin flips = 0,36% (In 99,7% of all attempts, the deviation is up to 0.36%)
 
What does 99,7% mean?

When you make 333 times a series of 180,000 coin flips, then 332 times the deviation from the expected outcome will be up to 0,36% and only one time the deviation will be higher than 0,36%.

I was not able to find how much the deviation could be in this one case where it is higher than 0,36%, but likely not more than 10% of the 0,36% = 0,4%.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

The advertised house edge for Stake's in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means long-term I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

 

NOPE.
That's not what house edge means, still isn't, never was. But so cute u still believe that.

You STILL have a 42% chance to win at BJ, that's math. A higher % to lose and an around 8% to tie.

House edge determines the guaranteed profit the casino makes if the outcome of games is even, 50 games won and 50 games lost. How stupid are you?

[nutildah]

House edge determines the guaranteed profit the casino makes if the outcome of games is even, 50 games won and 50 games lost. How stupid are you?

Amazingly stupid. Its been explained to them a hundred different times why they're wrong yet they still barrel through it to continue posting things that are flat out wrong. Its more than retardation, its mental illness. Yet I think its still prudent to occasionally remind the casual reader why their explanation of "house edge" is wrong so they don't get even 1% of the public's sympathy.

Imagine continuing on from an account that has 3 negative trusts, 586 posts & not one merit.

[noviesol]

The issue extends beyond this house edge topic. OP is creating multiple threads based on observations that seem to exist only in his imagination. He is blaming everyone and everything except himself for his gambling addiction. He is not going to get his lost money back or receive sympathy from others.

[BlackyJacky]

The advertised house edge for Stake's in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means long-term I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

NOPE.
That's not what house edge means, still isn't, never was. But so cute u still believe that.

You STILL have a 42% chance to win at BJ, that's math. A higher % to lose and an around 8% to tie.

When the chance to win is 42%, tie is 8%, then the chance to lose is 50%.

When the chance to win is 42% and the chance to lose is 50%, then the house edge is 8%!

You just confirmed that Stake is lying when they say house edge is 0,5%!

House edge determines the guaranteed profit the casino makes if the outcome of games is even, 50 games won and 50 games lost. How stupid are you?

If the outcome of games is even = 50 games won and 50 games lost, then the house edge is zero and profit is zero.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

The advertised house edge for Stake's in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means long-term I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

NOPE.
That's not what house edge means, still isn't, never was. But so cute u still believe that.

You STILL have a 42% chance to win at BJ, that's math. A higher % to lose and an around 8% to tie.

When the chance to win is 42%, tie is 8%, then the chance to lose is 50%.

When the chance to win is 42% and the chance to lose is 50%, then the house edge is 8%!

You just confirmed that Stake is lying when they say house edge is 0,5%!

House edge determines the guaranteed profit the casino makes if the outcome of games is even, 50 games won and 50 games lost. How stupid are you?

If the outcome of games is even = 50 games won and 50 games lost, then the house edge is zero and profit is zero.

Haha, you are the most clueless person I have ever met. How often do we have to tell you that the odds of winning do NOT determine the house edge!!
So you think when in sports a basketball team has a -10 point handicap and the moneyline is 1.2. you think the house edge is 80%

Get real little man and listen what EVERYBODY here is telling you.

If the outcome of games is even = 50 games won and 50 games lost, then the house edge is zero and profit is zero.

No it is NOT because you always forget doubles and blackjacks in your "calculation" aka fantasy.

[memehunter]

Haha, you are the most clueless person I have ever met. How often do we have to tell you that the odds of winning do NOT determine the house edge!!
So you think when in sports a basketball team has a -10 point handicap and the moneyline is 1.2. you think the house edge is 80%

Get real little man and listen what EVERYBODY here is telling you.

Although everything you said was logical and would make sense to any sensible person, I would suggest that you stop indulging in any logical discussion (only logical  ) with this gang. They clearly have an agenda against stake.com and IMO we are feeding them exactly what they want, 'attention'. They are just trolls, nothing else.
I wonder why mods are not banning them for trolling (I am sure they are almost on edge ), I mean it is getting ridiculous.

[BlackyJacky]

The advertised house edge for Stake's in-house Black Jack is 0,5%, which means long-term I will lose 0,5% of all bets placed.

NOPE.
That's not what house edge means, still isn't, never was. But so cute u still believe that.

You STILL have a 42% chance to win at BJ, that's math. A higher % to lose and an around 8% to tie.

When the chance to win is 42%, tie is 8%, then the chance to lose is 50%.

When the chance to win is 42% and the chance to lose is 50%, then the house edge is 8%!

You just confirmed that Stake is lying when they say house edge is 0,5%!

House edge determines the guaranteed profit the casino makes if the outcome of games is even, 50 games won and 50 games lost. How stupid are you?

If the outcome of games is even = 50 games won and 50 games lost, then the house edge is zero and profit is zero.

Haha, you are the most clueless person I have ever met. How often do we have to tell you that the odds of winning do NOT determine the house edge!!

In Black Jack we have RTP = Return To Player, which determines the house edge.

No idea about what odds your are speaking?

So you think when in sports a basketball team has a -10 point handicap and the moneyline is 1.2. you think the house edge is 80%

Your stupid little sickhead missed it, but this thread is about Stake's provably rigged in-house Black Jack and not sports betting!

Get real little man and listen what EVERYBODY here is telling you.

Why should I listen to hallucinated nonsense?

If the outcome of games is even = 50 games won and 50 games lost, then the house edge is zero and profit is zero.

No it is NOT because you always forget doubles and blackjacks in your "calculation" aka fantasy.

This is your calculation, not mine:

House edge determines the guaranteed profit the casino makes if the outcome of games is even, 50 games won and 50 games lost.

Your stupid little sickhead calculated that the guaranteed profit the casino makes is if the outcome of games is even = 50 games won and 50 games lost!

[Xylber]

I didn't read all 18 pages, but:

- The House Edge/RTP is the MONEY you lose/win, not the games. Example: flipping a coin (50/50), if you win I pay you 1.90. You'll win 50% of the games, but the HouseEdge is 5%, as you get $1.90 instead of the fair $2.00

- House Edge of 0.57% (RTP 99.43%) is based on a perfect play/strategy. What Blackjack Strategy table are you using? (For example, I used to use the ones from wizardofodds.com).

- Are ALL of your bets made in Blackjack and Blackjack only? Some games like Plinko requires higher samples to achieve RTP. Changing the amount you bet can also change your statistics (for example, if you increased your bet amount in the latest 10% of games).

[BlackyJacky]

I didn't read all 18 pages, but:

- The House Edge/RTP is the MONEY you lose/win, not the games. Example: flipping a coin (50/50), if you win I pay you 1.90. You'll win 50% of the games, but the HouseEdge is 5%, as you get $1.90 instead of the fair $2.00

Thank you for informing the attackers and nonsense hallucinators what house edge is.

- House Edge of 0.57% (RTP 99.43%) is based on a perfect play/strategy. What Blackjack Strategy table are you using? (For example, I used to use the ones from wizardofodds.com).

I used the Stake Black Jack Strategy table.

- Are ALL of your bets made in Blackjack and Blackjack only? Some games like Plinko requires higher samples to achieve RTP. Changing the amount you bet can also change your statistics (for example, if you increased your bet amount in the latest 10% of games).

Yes, I played only Black Jack.

[BlackyJacky]

The website stake.com has no license since 7,5 months!