SHOULD RAPE VICTIMS ABORT THEIR UNBORN KIDS?

[Zeddquiver]

Yes, rape is a deeply traumatic experience, but an innocent child should not pay for it. While society has stigmatized rape victims, I understand this might be reason enough to want to abort evidence of such an occurrence or not want to nurture the seed of a rapist. However, as much as the child comes from those circumstances, they are also a victim and a mother's love is enough to overcome whatever hate and issues may arise.

Moreover, let us not overlook the fact that some women can only give birth to one child and, unknowingly, they abort the baby because it came through rape, only to regret it later in life. Additionally, consider the dangers of abortion, as there is a possibility that the victim can lose her life in that process.

In conclusion, being a rape victim is not your fault. Deciding to keep a child conceived through such an incident is not cowardly or shameful; rather, it is bravery. So, walk with your head held high, nurture that child, and be proud of yourself.

[jvanname]

Yes, rape is a deeply traumatic experience, but an innocent child should not pay for it. While society has stigmatized rape victims, I understand this might be reason enough to want to abort evidence of such an occurrence or not want to nurture the seed of a rapist. However, as much as the child comes from those circumstances, they are also a victim and a mother's love is enough to overcome whatever hate and issues may arise.

Moreover, let us not overlook the fact that some women can only give birth to one child and, unknowingly, they abort the baby because it came through rape, only to regret it later in life. Additionally, consider the dangers of abortion, as there is a possibility that the victim can lose her life in that process.

In conclusion, being a rape victim is not your fault. Deciding to keep a child conceived through such an incident is not cowardly or shameful; rather, it is bravery. So, walk with your head held high, nurture that child, and be proud of yourself.

Natural selection favors rape because rape is a legitimate (but obviously evil) strategy to passing their genes to future generations. And these rape genes help explain why humans are so f@#$ed up. So I have an idea. Why don't we make the penalty for rape just death with torture? And every mother of a baby conceived by rape must either abort or sign a paper that makes them permanently barred from attaining any government benefits including a public school education. Furthermore, every baby conceived by rape must be genetically tested for rape genes, crime genes, sociopathy genes, and for other ailments especially in the case of incest, and they should be required to disclose all of this information to any sexual partners before engaging in any sexual activity including kissing and cuddling. The sexual partners must then read and sign a consent document stating that their partner was conceived by rape and that their partner is of a low genetic quality and that only a fucking piece of shit would want to be with this kind of person.

CRIME GENES ARE REAL!

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[Ruttoshi]

Yes, rape is a deeply traumatic experience, but an innocent child should not pay for it. While society has stigmatized rape victims, I understand this might be reason enough to want to abort evidence of such an occurrence or not want to nurture the seed of a rapist. However, as much as the child comes from those circumstances, they are also a victim and a mother's love is enough to overcome whatever hate and issues may arise.

Moreover, let us not overlook the fact that some women can only give birth to one child and, unknowingly, they abort the baby because it came through rape, only to regret it later in life. Additionally, consider the dangers of abortion, as there is a possibility that the victim can lose her life in that process.

In conclusion, being a rape victim is not your fault. Deciding to keep a child conceived through such an incident is not cowardly or shameful; rather, it is bravery. So, walk with your head held high, nurture that child, and be proud of yourself.

Natural selection favors rape because rape is a legitimate (but obviously evil) strategy to passing their genes to future generations. And these rape genes help explain why humans are so f@#$ed up. So I have an idea. Why don't we make the penalty for rape just death with torture? And every mother of a baby conceived by rape must either abort or sign a paper that makes them permanently barred from attaining any government benefits including a public school education. Furthermore, every baby conceived by rape must be genetically tested for rape genes, crime genes, sociopathy genes, and for other ailments especially in the case of incest, and they should be required to disclose all of this information to any sexual partners before engaging in any sexual activity including kissing and cuddling. The sexual partners must then read and sign a consent document stating that their partner was conceived by rape and that their partner is of a low genetic quality and that only a fucking piece of shit would want to be with this kind of person.

CRIME GENES ARE REAL!

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Are you trying to discriminate rape victims or children given birth out of rape. As far as I know, we are all humans despite how you came into the world, because it wasn't those rape victims fault that they found themselves in such mess.

What I would say is that anyone that was raped should immediately go for test and check up so that you can make up your decisions if you will keep the pregnancy or not before it's too late, in case the rapist got you pregnant because the baby hasn't formed yet.

[franky1]

gotta love the standard social media replies from sheep who dont think for themselves, you can usualy spot the posters that are both male, have no kids but wish to bootlick the government lobby groups which wish to overstep their authority and involvement in a persons life

this whole argument of if the mother can make life decisions over their offspring is not actually about "murder" its more about a lobbying group using social media to sway the public into thinking that the government should be the sole guardians of children, instead of their own parent(s), and abortion is the first step into legitimising this control over every aspect of control

firstly no man should decide on what women should do with their bodies.. and whilst gestating, a woman has full authority and medical proxy over the foetus. she is the one that is the life support, the incubator.. much like a family has next of kin/medical proxy status over an elderly relative in a coma deciding on things like turning off the life support.

until the ~24th week of pregnancy a foetus has no self sovereignty nor self control nor self sustainability to live without the life support of the mother, so yes the mother has all decision power over the foetus

a foetus under 24th week is not a viable "child", even in law it has not been born to even be certified as a citizen of a government. even with a birthed child, the child is by law not given the ability to give consent until its an adult. the responsibility of events happening to a child reside with the parents giving their consent of the child. thus it remains the parents duty, not a child, not a government to make many medical decisions

a foetus does not have the self awareness to ponder on the possibility or be upset that it wont get to be a firemen when its older due to its mother decisions and i find it laughable how the sheep of social media pretend that a mother aborting a foetus is anywhere close to the same as murdering a birthed child

there are many differences between a birthed child vs a foetus.. a foetus's situation is much the same as a elderly relative in a coma on life support whereby the family have to decide on switching off life support, and no thats not murder either

[paxmao]

Yes, rape is a deeply traumatic experience, but an innocent child should not pay for it. While society has stigmatized rape victims, I understand this might be reason enough to want to abort evidence of such an occurrence or not want to nurture the seed of a rapist. However, as much as the child comes from those circumstances, they are also a victim and a mother's love is enough to overcome whatever hate and issues may arise.

Moreover, let us not overlook the fact that some women can only give birth to one child and, unknowingly, they abort the baby because it came through rape, only to regret it later in life. Additionally, consider the dangers of abortion, as there is a possibility that the victim can lose her life in that process.

In conclusion, being a rape victim is not your fault. Deciding to keep a child conceived through such an incident is not cowardly or shameful; rather, it is bravery. So, walk with your head held high, nurture that child, and be proud of yourself.

Whatever the answer to that question or even to the statement "abort kids" as opposed to abort "cells" - already biased - is not "they must do what you think they should". In other words, you do not get a say on what a women does with her body nor get a say on how many, when and how she decides to have children.

Keep you religion out of people's uterus, it does not belong there and you probably would not ever understand what you are talking about (starting by writing in capitals, which already shows something about you).

[Hispo]

One must keep in mind which is the state of mind of a woman who was raped and finds herself to be bearing the child of her rapist. The rape itself is traumatic enough form them, some of them could even consider to end their life because of the stigma and trauma they are going through.
Are women capable of forgiving and forgetting about such a way they were assaulted and see their pregnancy with a different optics or point of view? Most won't be able to do so, in the eyes of those who may decide to keep the children of a rapist are continuously going to remember the assault each time they see their child. Not even mention the hardships and difficulties which come from rasing a child alone, in a world dominated by men.

It is a very specific controversial topic and I honestly think each woman should decide on it, whether they are willing to raise the child of a rapist or not.

[jvanname]

Are you trying to discriminate rape victims or children given birth out of rape. As far as I know, we are all humans despite how you came into the world, because it wasn't those rape victims fault that they found themselves in such mess.

What I would say is that anyone that was raped should immediately go for test and check up so that you can make up your decisions if you will keep the pregnancy or not before it's too late, in case the rapist got you pregnant because the baby hasn't formed yet.

Do you want these people with crime and sociopathy genes who were conceived of rape to be a part of our society? Because I don't. They will commit crimes and ruin us all. You don't care about this because you are a flaming liberal who just wants the criminals to go free and commit crimes everywhere. That is despicable.

One must keep in mind which is the state of mind of a woman who was raped and finds herself to be bearing the child of her rapist. The rape itself is traumatic enough form them, some of them could even consider to end their life because of the stigma and trauma they are going through.
Are women capable of forgiving and forgetting about such a way they were assaulted and see their pregnancy with a different optics or point of view? Most won't be able to do so, in the eyes of those who may decide to keep the children of a rapist are continuously going to remember the assault each time they see their child. Not even mention the hardships and difficulties which come from rasing a child alone, in a world dominated by men.

It is a very specific controversial topic and I honestly think each woman should decide on it, whether they are willing to raise the child of a rapist or not.

If they do raise the child, the child will probably be abused severely to the point where it grows up to be a complete and total menace to society.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[franky1]

One must keep in mind which is the state of mind of a woman who was raped and finds herself to be bearing the child of her rapist. The rape itself is traumatic enough form them, some of them could even consider to end their life because of the stigma and trauma they are going through.
Are women capable of forgiving and forgetting about such a way they were assaulted and see their pregnancy with a different optics or point of view? Most won't be able to do so, in the eyes of those who may decide to keep the children of a rapist are continuously going to remember the assault each time they see their child. Not even mention the hardships and difficulties which come from rasing a child alone, in a world dominated by men.

It is a very specific controversial topic and I honestly think each woman should decide on it, whether they are willing to raise the child of a rapist or not.

alot of sheep would suggest to birth the child and to then give it over to government(adoption/fostering/child services) to avoid the reminder. but even this is still situations where other people are trying to control the womans choices and consent over her own body, she may not want to go through the pregnancy nor the birth.
even the 9 months of pregnancy is a traumatic psychological affecting period, whereby an X minute rape trauma turns into a 9 month constant reminder trauma, even if the end result is putting the child up for adoption

[Hispo]

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And still, giving birth to the child and putting it for adoption may sound as a more humane idea in the mind of the conservative right and the MAGA movement within the United States. The problem comes when the Republican party is not willing to fund anything which could help those children to have a normal life and find a couple willing to adopt them. It is already difficult to live without having children, imagine how difficult it could be with one or two children which you decided to adopt.
If the Republican party and the convertible right wanted less abortions, then they could put some tax benefits on the table for those who adopt children and those who decide to have planed children as well.

I am not a woman, so I cannot have an accurate ideal on how traumatic being pregnant from a rape could be.

[EluguHcman]

If raping is a sexual offense then abortion too is a murdering offence. This is not just terminating the lives of the unborn but also risking the lives of the mothers who bears pregnant for the rapists.

I literally don't think abortion pregnancies conceived by rapping would bring an end to rapes but having no mercy justice for those accomplice of rapping is the best option.

Muchly, aborting pregnancies by rapes would not cleanse a total memory of such experience so I don't see it helpful for rapped victims.

[OgNasty]

This is a crazy question for so many reasons. Ultimately every woman should make her own decision and nobody wants to raise a kid that looks like their rapist. Rapists also shouldn’t get to procreate that way. However, getting your rapist for child support for 18 years isn’t the worst revenge, especially if the rapist was well off.

[bittraffic]

Wouldn't the right of the kid also violated?

The trauma is already there. Whether someone will remind her every time or not, its still there. The rape victim can move on in time but adding another traumatic experience like abortion will not be a solution also.
Regardless of who the father is, the kid will be a big help for the mother. She will not regret it once the kid grows the way she wants. The kid just need to be raised and nurtured and be loved to make life worth it. Just something to think about.

Women will risk everything to have a kid actually. Maybe depends to the kind of woman the victim is but once she grows older, she will rethink like Beth. (yellowstone)

[BADecker]

Wouldn't the right of the kid also violated?

The trauma is already there. Whether someone will remind her every time or not, its still there. The rape victim can move on in time but adding another traumatic experience like abortion will not be a solution also.
Regardless of who the father is, the kid will be a big help for the mother. She will not regret it once the kid grows the way she wants. The kid just need to be raised and nurtured and be loved to make life worth it. Just something to think about.

Women will risk everything to have a kid actually. Maybe depends to the kind of woman the victim is but once she grows older, she will rethink like Beth. (yellowstone)

Exactly!

The mother may be emotionally unstable because of the rape, but she is attached to her child no matter who the father is. If she murders her child, she will always regret it.

Anybody who says that there is something like 'natural selection' is accepting an oxymoron idea. The idea of selection means that there is intelligence behind it. But the term is associated with the idea of randomness, and no intelligence. Talk about idiots.

[jvanname]

If raping is a sexual offense then abortion too is a murdering offence. This is not just terminating the lives of the unborn but also risking the lives of the mothers who bears pregnant for the rapists.

I literally don't think abortion pregnancies conceived by rapping would bring an end to rapes but having no mercy justice for those accomplice of rapping is the best option.

Muchly, aborting pregnancies by rapes would not cleanse a total memory of such experience so I don't see it helpful for rapped victims.

If you pay someone 500,000 dollars or however much it takes for the mother to be willing to raise the baby, then you can blame her. But otherwise, you should just shut the fuck up. Anti-abortion activists are willing to do anything other than commit their own resources to raising the children. If you are a pro-lifer, then it is your responsibility to adopt and properly raise as many otherwise aborted babies as possible. Otherwise, STFU.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[Spaceman1000$]

Yes, rape is a deeply traumatic experience, but an innocent child should not pay for it. While society has stigmatized rape victims, I understand this might be reason enough to want to abort evidence of such an occurrence or not want to nurture the seed of a rapist. However, as much as the child comes from those circumstances, they are also a victim and a mother's love is enough to overcome whatever hate and issues may arise.

Moreover, let us not overlook the fact that some women can only give birth to one child and, unknowingly, they abort the baby because it came through rape, only to regret it later in life. Additionally, consider the dangers of abortion, as there is a possibility that the victim can lose her life in that process.

In conclusion, being a rape victim is not your fault. Deciding to keep a child conceived through such an incident is not cowardly or shameful; rather, it is bravery. So, walk with your head held high, nurture that child, and be proud of yourself.

I think for me is depending on the state where the person comes from if abortion is permitted. However my number one and kind advice will be for the mother to abort the baby, because delivering that baby and nurturing that baby will always be traumatic for her because she will be remembering the rape incident and the consequences of bringing up a child without a father figure in the life of that baby, which will make the baby grow up with a stigma within and around as people will be pointing to the fact that this is a child from rape incident, so in order to avoid all of this hullabaloo, it is better she aborts the baby to save face.

[BADecker]

If raping is a sexual offense then abortion too is a murdering offence. This is not just terminating the lives of the unborn but also risking the lives of the mothers who bears pregnant for the rapists.

I literally don't think abortion pregnancies conceived by rapping would bring an end to rapes but having no mercy justice for those accomplice of rapping is the best option.

Muchly, aborting pregnancies by rapes would not cleanse a total memory of such experience so I don't see it helpful for rapped victims.

If you pay someone 500,000 dollars or however much it takes for the mother to be willing to raise the baby, then you can blame her. But otherwise, you should just shut the fuck up. Anti-abortion activists are willing to do anything other than commit their own resources to raising the children. If you are a pro-lifer, then it is your responsibility to adopt and properly raise as many otherwise aborted babies as possible. Otherwise, STFU.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

Before politics and government got into it, welfare was done by the church. And it still is, even though it has been curtailed somewhat by government.

[jvanname]

Before politics and government got into it, welfare was done by the church. And it still is, even though it has been curtailed somewhat by government.

Now that the government is doing most of the welfare, it is costing us a lot more money with worse results.

Regards,

-Joseph Van Name Ph.D.

[franky1]

gotta love the clan that want gun freedoms and ability to defend property and think a trespasser is free to be shot and it not be murder,
..but a woman whom ends a pregnancy of a foetus that has never even drawn breath to be treated as murder, even if it is trespassing on her property(body)

im a guy nd even i can see this is all about some highly paid lobby group spreading dumb scripts to dumb political fanboys to try to take peoples personal choices about their own body away.. these idiots need to think outside the social media scripts they have been taught to recite and actually put things into real prospective of reality, biology and matter of fact.

lessons:
the woman is the life support machine, she gets ultimate decision making power
the foetus is not even a registered birth nor citizen during pregnancy, thus not the property/responsibility of the government
even as a potential parent the potential child does not have full rights nor consent status. its upto the parent to make medical decisions

the morning after pill is not a traumatic event, its just a 'big flow' period. the zygote has no consciousness
the morning after pill is not a traumatic event, its just a 'big flow' period. the embryo has no consciousness

[Hewlet]

If raping is a sexual offense then abortion too is a murdering offence. This is not just terminating the lives of the unborn but also risking the lives of the mothers who bears pregnant for the rapists.

I literally don't think abortion pregnancies conceived by rapping would bring an end to rapes but having no mercy justice for those accomplice of rapping is the best option.

Muchly, aborting pregnancies by rapes would not cleanse a total memory of such experience so I don't see it helpful for rapped victims.

you're being biased with your argument and somehow, you're far from the reality on ground. Are you trying to say that a rape victim deserves equal punishment as the rapist just because she's not strong enough to carry a child of a man that abused her? You know, there are a lot of ways to look at these things based on what we've seen that's happening in the society and when you make certain comparison, you might just conclude that it is best that abortion is done to take out all the stigma the child will come to experience in front of the mother who will associate him to the pain his father caused her, the relative on the other hand might speak evil of the child and even the society might not be positive on there own side.

If it's from the angle where the mother decides to keep the child because she wants to avoid the complications that comes with abortion  or it's based on her believe system in abortion or she's afraid that she might never have a child again, then that should be her decision to make and it should be something she's ready to live with and work with the child through the challenges she might face while growing up. It's easy to write about this on a media platform because you're not the victim, if you're the victim, then you will understand that commiting suicide is an option some people that aren't strong enough might end up taking.

[Majestic-milf]

 It's a sad experience that no one wants to go through so those who have found themselves in such a situation have valid reasons to about the babies but I'm of the opinion that it still comes down to choice of the mother.
Where I come from, there are currently 29 SEXUALLY ASSAULTED REFERRAL CENTRES (SARCS) where these victims can easily walk into if they are close or get to know about the place from people and don't have to worry about being stigmatized for something that isn't their fault although for most of the victims, they were assaulted by individuals who are supposed to be close to them or ones they trust and are sometimes threatened to keep quiet and as such don't get access to these agencies and would be so depressed to even think of anything else aside from either suicide or how to quietly flush the child.
 Although it's not easy for these rape victims, I've seen some who end up keeping the baby and refuse to see the child as a product of something evil, rather choosing to shower love and and attention and also later moving on to become voices for those who can't speak up when they encounter such sad experience.