Charity Gambling

[kotajikikox]

What's your thoughts on this? Is it a creative way to raise funds for a good cause? Or will it simply promote gambling?

Others might say that it conflict with charitable values as it linked to gambling-related harm. Have you been in one of this charity gambling in your locals?

One example of this kind of charity gambling is the Dutch Postcode Lottery.

I don’t think it’s that deep, to be honest.

It’s just a little community activity that even contributes to the greater good which is donating to charity. Since it’s just the lottery, I don’t think it is that harmful and would promote unhealthy gambling activities.

In my country, it’s very normal for the communities to hold competitions like this one where a house/family is picked to win. Normally, we do not pay for anything. Just sign up and you’re in. But the fact that the proceeds here go to charity must mean a lot for the community as well since they know they will be helping people. The lottery prize is probably just a bonus for them.

[rodskee]

Have you heard of Charity gambling?



https://www.postcodelotterygroup.com/what-we-do/nationale-postcode-loterij/

This is nothing but the same of  coating the bad deeds with good one , gambling is gambling so what those charities are doing is using the chance of gamblers to take as advantage.

Why not seek for donations instead of letting others to gamble first just to fund their actions?

I would rather give some of my money to help them funds than to bet and lose for them .

[Solosanz]

This is nothing but the same of  coating the bad deeds with good one , gambling is gambling so what those charities are doing is using the chance of gamblers to take as advantage.

Why not seek for donations instead of letting others to gamble first just to fund their actions?

I would rather give some of my money to help them funds than to bet and lose for them .

Gambling is a bad deeds if you're a Muslim, if not there's nothing wrong with gambling.

There's a difference between pure donation and donation with gambling, in pure donation, you can't expect you will get a lot money because most people simply don't care with other people's lives. While gambling, many people like doing that, it's why some people ended up being an addict. Hence, this might be the reason why they created this project. There's no donation addict.

[eisen33]

Gambling is a bad deeds if you're a Muslim, if not there's nothing wrong with gambling.

There's a difference between pure donation and donation with gambling, in pure donation, you can't expect you will get a lot money because most people simply don't care with other people's lives. While gambling, many people like doing that, it's why some people ended up being an addict. Hence, this might be the reason why they created this project. There's no donation addict.

I think that gambling and donations have nothing in common, the difference is too great, when you donate you just consciously give money with the hope that this money will help those who need it, and when you gamble you hope to win and losing is a result that we do not want to get. Accordingly, losses in gambling are perceived completely differently than if you donated this money to charity, and the player will try to win back what he lost.

[Troytech]

I don’t think it’s that deep, to be honest.

It’s just a little community activity that even contributes to the greater good which is donating to charity. Since it’s just the lottery, I don’t think it is that harmful and would promote unhealthy gambling activities.

In my country, it’s very normal for the communities to hold competitions like this one where a house/family is picked to win. Normally, we do not pay for anything. Just sign up and you’re in. But the fact that the proceeds here go to charity must mean a lot for the community as well since they know they will be helping people. The lottery prize is probably just a bonus for them.

What are you saying, its so deep than you will every think. The fact that they go to charity to run there campaign only proves one point that they are brining gambling closer even to those in need. We often see that orphans or the handicapped rarely go or dont go to the casinos to gamble because of lack of money or permission. But they might have the urge to gamble sometime. These organization will allow them to gamble free of charge, and in the comfort of the homes whenever they come. What you've not though about is where they get the money to offer the needy free gambling. Of course they play lottery and win big so they can sponsor, or perhaps they get fundraising from other gambler and lastly its either they run advert for some casinos and get paid for that.

[Rustam Meraj]

Gambling is a bad deeds if you're a Muslim, if not there's nothing wrong with gambling.

There's a difference between pure donation and donation with gambling, in pure donation, you can't expect you will get a lot money because most people simply don't care with other people's lives. While gambling, many people like doing that, it's why some people ended up being an addict. Hence, this might be the reason why they created this project. There's no donation addict.

I understand your view on gambling especially in Islam and you are right in your view because Islam says it Haram.
You show that donating money without expecting anything back is different from gambling which can lead to addiction. This project probably wants people to give charitably without risks of gambling. By keeping donations and gambling separate they promote safe and selfless giving. Your point raises important questions can charity projects involving gambling balance fundraising with protecting people from harm?

[Ricardo11]

This is nothing but the same of  coating the bad deeds with good one , gambling is gambling so what those charities are doing is using the chance of gamblers to take as advantage.

Why not seek for donations instead of letting others to gamble first just to fund their actions?

I would rather give some of my money to help them funds than to bet and lose for them .

Gambling is a bad deeds if you're a Muslim, if not there's nothing wrong with gambling.

There's a difference between pure donation and donation with gambling, in pure donation, you can't expect you will get a lot money because most people simply don't care with other people's lives. While gambling, many people like doing that, it's why some people ended up being an addict. Hence, this might be the reason why they created this project. There's no donation addict.

You are absolutely right, if we look at it from a religious point of view, gambling is totally forbidden in Islam, because it harms money and morals. But I don't know if it is prohibited in other religions, because I am also a Muslim.
In our religion, charity is completely selfless and The main purpose of giving charity is to help a needy person, which is an act of virtue, and as a result the Creator is pleased with the giver.
On the other hand, in gambling, there is always an expectation of profit or loss, which makes everyone addicted.

So there is no reason for attachment in the matter of charity, because it is done only for good and noble deeds. Which is completely selfless. And gambling only leads a man to disaster. And at some point gambling makes the gambler destitute.
So, it is not correct to compare gambling with charity.

[legendbtc]

Gambling is a bad deeds if you're a Muslim, if not there's nothing wrong with gambling.

There's a difference between pure donation and donation with gambling, in pure donation, you can't expect you will get a lot money because most people simply don't care with other people's lives. While gambling, many people like doing that, it's why some people ended up being an addict. Hence, this might be the reason why they created this project. There's no donation addict.

I think that gambling and donations have nothing in common, the difference is too great, when you donate you just consciously give money with the hope that this money will help those who need it, and when you gamble you hope to win and losing is a result that we do not want to get. Accordingly, losses in gambling are perceived completely differently than if you donated this money to charity, and the player will try to win back what he lost.

Yes, gambling and donation are the opposite. One side of gambling is to win money when playing. One party voluntarily gives the money they have to the other party.
I think this is a disguised activity, attracting people to gamble online. I do not believe that there are gamblers who want to lose to donate to charity. Everyone wants to win and win a lot of the money they bet. And the creator of this project doesn't necessarily want to donate to charity. Everyone has the goal of making money as 'players and project creators'. No one intends to do charity.

[Tungbulu]

I like the idea of charity gambling, but when it is performed by celebrities, influencers or famous people. The fact that anyone can join-in and gamble against them, would attract more funds than just a charity box somewhere, or a banner that calls to raise money for something. People consider that as an event where they can show themselves, meet others, make new friends or contacts, and in addition gamble and lose money for a good deed.

That’s i fact a pretty cool way to lose money while gambling right?
I mean if I’m to lose money through charity gambling, the it wouldn’t really be losing money because it’s just like your own way of donating or making your own contribution to charity or humanity and at the same time having fun on the process and still getting a chance to win too. To me, that’s a win win for me, because weather or I win or go back home win something, I’d still leave with lots of satisfaction that I didn’t lose all my money for nothing lol. 

[peter0425]

It is creative, yes. At least they have found a way to put the money they collect into good use but I also see that at the end of the day it’s just really almost about gambling. These people would bet higher not for the sake of helping more but for having more chances at winning.

I have seen this many times wherein the more privileged people engage in entertainment or leisure under the guise of helping the needy. For example, we see most auction sales donate to charity. But the people who go there are really just people wishing to buy something of value after flexing their wealth.

So, yes. It is still just gambling at the end of the day but also I am glad that there’s someone that’s being helped because of this. It is Better than nothing after all.

[AicecreaME]

Sounds good unless there's something else, like they are just using the "charity" as front to do gambling.

I mean, there's a lot of ways on how to get entertainment while you're raising funds to help other people or community that won't have negative effects on yourself in the long run. Nonetheless, if these kind of events are participated by profitable gamblers or professional gamblers, then why not.

[bakasabo]

I like the idea of charity gambling, but when it is performed by celebrities, influencers or famous people. The fact that anyone can join-in and gamble against them, would attract more funds than just a charity box somewhere, or a banner that calls to raise money for something. People consider that as an event where they can show themselves, meet others, make new friends or contacts, and in addition gamble and lose money for a good deed.

Well, that could be a good event for them. Aside that they can attract more celebrities to gamble, then the more losses they will incur, the bigger the proceeds for the charity for a cause. The advantage here is that they don’t care if they lose knowing they have a lot of money to spend, unlike with regular people trying to gamble, once they lose, they also turn out as the losers who also need charity as well.

I can say that charity gambling have some similarities with charity auctions. People dont really need those items they bid on, but such event can increase attention to a problem or organization that money are raised for. Also some people rather not give money for something, when they get nothing in exchange. But when they participate in charity gambling, at least they understand that they pay for emotions and make good deed.

[Queentoshi]

Sounds good unless there's something else, like they are just using the "charity" as front to do gambling.

To consider the different perspectives on charity gambling is quite interesting. Some might see it as a creative way to raise funds for a good cause, while others could view it as potentially promoting gambling-related harm.
But if we are to consider the actual good of the Charity gambling, the potentials are quite good placing value on the cause of the gamble. In as much as the name tag may be heavy the cause is actually a genuine one. Notwithstanding, one wouldn’t categorize on it cause it’s more like saying. Selling drugs to the society to develop the city is a good cause. Even if it's for a good cause it doesn't negate the risk of gambling addictions. Instead of gambling why not directly donate to the charity.

[Dewi Aries]

Yes, that's what I mean, my friend, we know what and how gambling really is, most people who make gambling a place to make money often experience the opposite, in the sense that the majority of them actually lose almost all their money slowly and maybe we also often hear many people, especially those here, who say that gambling should not be used as a place to make money, understand that gambling is nothing more than a playground in your spare time, like an entertainment event when you have boring free time and is not something that should be done seriously.

The reason is clear that all the gamblers' winnings have been arranged by the casino, the gamblers play on the casino's advantage, another thing that I also question is where will the group get the money for the gambling capital? I'm not sure that there are people or parties who really want to sacrifice their money to be used as capital for activities that run based on probability, and of course I also quite agree with what you said that it is much better to donate the capital directly without having to put it in gambling first.

With other gamblers, we can't really get rid of their thoughts that gambling for them is a place to make money, especially if this is the one that has been planted in their minds as a source of money in an easy way.

Even though in reality it is not easy to make a profit in gambling unless you are lucky, it is easy to make a profit in the casino that's why we know that usually the gamblers who enter gambling platforms are losers.

Yes, it is not easy to change their perspective on gambling and that is one of the biggest reasons why gambling addiction is one of the most difficult diseases to overcome, none other than because they will stick to the thought and belief that gambling is the right place to change their fate financially even though it is clear that in fact this perspective and thought actually causes various problems with their financial situation, and this is also the reason that most likely in most cases a gambler who is already addicted will only realize that their perspective and understanding of gambling are wrong when they have experienced various significant setbacks.

Back to the main discussion where everything we said above I think is the biggest reason why gambling does not make sense to be used as a place to multiply money to be donated, even though the goal is good but the method seems unrealistic.

[Gheka]

Gambling is a bad deeds if you're a Muslim, if not there's nothing wrong with gambling.

There's a difference between pure donation and donation with gambling, in pure donation, you can't expect you will get a lot money because most people simply don't care with other people's lives. While gambling, many people like doing that, it's why some people ended up being an addict. Hence, this might be the reason why they created this project. There's no donation addict.

I think that gambling and donations have nothing in common, the difference is too great, when you donate you just consciously give money with the hope that this money will help those who need it, and when you gamble you hope to win and losing is a result that we do not want to get. Accordingly, losses in gambling are perceived completely differently than if you donated this money to charity, and the player will try to win back what he lost.

Yes, gambling and donation are the opposite. One side of gambling is to win money when playing. One party voluntarily gives the money they have to the other party.
I think this is a disguised activity, attracting people to gamble online. I do not believe that there are gamblers who want to lose to donate to charity. Everyone wants to win and win a lot of the money they bet. And the creator of this project doesn't necessarily want to donate to charity. Everyone has the goal of making money as 'players and project creators'. No one intends to do charity.

It is also difficult to say that this is a disguised activity to expand the gambling network because this charity can originate from the money that people gamble, the winnings of a lottery game will belong to a few people and the rest can be donated to charity, even the prizes for the winners are just symbolic gifts in terms of spirit. If a charity is designed like that, gambling here is just a fundraising entertainment activity, it is not purely forcing people to become gamblers because the money people spend will contribute to building the community, there is not too much personalization.

[Alphakilo]

Am sure I just became aware of what charity gambling is, still it isn't any different from other kinds of social activities or events that can be hosted by a group or persons or even an individual for different reasons that often times sums to gathering a huge reserve of funds generously donated by those in attendance.

While gambling could just be one of the activities in this regard of charity, it could be considered a major interest in the region where persons who have such interest live or visit, hence the choice, still, unlike other kinds of events hosted for charitable gatherings, the aim is often to raise funds for great causes, to increase the engagement and interaction of the community, to be a special entertainment and a great get-together event that everyone gets to meet everyone and be happy about it.

[bakasabo]

Sounds good unless there's something else, like they are just using the "charity" as front to do gambling.

To consider the different perspectives on charity gambling is quite interesting. Some might see it as a creative way to raise funds for a good cause, while others could view it as potentially promoting gambling-related harm.
But if we are to consider the actual good of the Charity gambling, the potentials are quite good placing value on the cause of the gamble. In as much as the name tag may be heavy the cause is actually a genuine one. Notwithstanding, one wouldn’t categorize on it cause it’s more like saying. Selling drugs to the society to develop the city is a good cause. Even if it's for a good cause it doesn't negate the risk of gambling addictions. Instead of gambling why not directly donate to the charity.

Do you really think that anyone would consider charity gambling as a potential gambling promotion? I think if something is charity related, it automatically turns everything into harmless or extra light. Because the final result is still oriented on helping others. I doubt that any legal activity can be harmful, if its goal is to raise money for poor.

Instead of gambling why not directly donate to the charity.

Because when people part with money, only few can do it without a wish to get something back. A person is unlikely to give someone money for free, but if he gets a trifle, a souvenir, an emotion in exchange, he would gladly give money and give more. For example when a beggar asks for money, people would give him change, mostly coins. But if someone say he is rising money for pet shelter for example, and offers to buy a glass of lemonade for $10 (what is very expensive), people would buy it.

[ndutndut]

Have you heard of Charity gambling?

Charity gambling is a "form of incentivized giving" where a charity (or a group of charities), rather than a municipality or private casino, oversees gambling activities such as bingo, roulette, lottery, and slot machines and uses the proceeds to further its charitable aims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charity_gambling

What's your thoughts on this? Is it a creative way to raise funds for a good cause? Or will it simply promote gambling?

Others might say that it conflict with charitable values as it linked to gambling-related harm. Have you been in one of this charity gambling in your locals?

One example of this kind of charity gambling is the Dutch Postcode Lottery.



https://www.postcodelotterygroup.com/what-we-do/nationale-postcode-loterij/

Generally we are not familiar with these gambling because gambling is illegal in my country, these gambling are most known in developed countries and is a sign to earn money.
 But all the casino or betting games we are most familiar with are played in secret, I am not affiliated with this charity gambling and I have not gambled for charity.

Yes, that's right. I am also taboo about gambling for charity because in my country gambling is still illegal, and several times there were individuals who gambled under the guise of a charity foundation arrested by the police.

Source: https://news.espos.id/judi-bola-polisi-gerebek-judi-berkedok-yayasan-amal-191848

So even if there are people who can raise funds for charity through gambling, they need to make sure that gambling in this country does not violate the law.

However, in general, gambling has a very broad negative impact on society at large. So even though gambling is legal in a country, making gambling for charity is still not good because it is the same as promoting gambling to the wider community, so the impact is that they will become irresponsible gamblers.

[Fredomago]

Sounds good unless there's something else, like they are just using the "charity" as front to do gambling.

To consider the different perspectives on charity gambling is quite interesting. Some might see it as a creative way to raise funds for a good cause, while others could view it as potentially promoting gambling-related harm.
But if we are to consider the actual good of the Charity gambling, the potentials are quite good placing value on the cause of the gamble. In as much as the name tag may be heavy the cause is actually a genuine one. Notwithstanding, one wouldn’t categorize on it cause it’s more like saying. Selling drugs to the society to develop the city is a good cause. Even if it's for a good cause it doesn't negate the risk of gambling addictions. Instead of gambling why not directly donate to the charity.

Exactly, instead of doing such there's alternative way to deliver the help, but we really can't tell how others thinks about it and how they look at it on their on point of view, there are who will support this kind of charity works in the sense of reaching out to help while others will see it as opportunity to gamble and if luck permits they'll win something aside from the desire to help if ever they are really after the help.

[Mahanton]

Gambling is a bad deeds if you're a Muslim, if not there's nothing wrong with gambling.

There's a difference between pure donation and donation with gambling, in pure donation, you can't expect you will get a lot money because most people simply don't care with other people's lives. While gambling, many people like doing that, it's why some people ended up being an addict. Hence, this might be the reason why they created this project. There's no donation addict.

I think that gambling and donations have nothing in common, the difference is too great, when you donate you just consciously give money with the hope that this money will help those who need it, and when you gamble you hope to win and losing is a result that we do not want to get. Accordingly, losses in gambling are perceived completely differently than if you donated this money to charity, and the player will try to win back what he lost.

Yes, gambling and donation are the opposite. One side of gambling is to win money when playing. One party voluntarily gives the money they have to the other party.
I think this is a disguised activity, attracting people to gamble online. I do not believe that there are gamblers who want to lose to donate to charity. Everyone wants to win and win a lot of the money they bet. And the creator of this project doesn't necessarily want to donate to charity. Everyone has the goal of making money as 'players and project creators'. No one intends to do charity.

It is also difficult to say that this is a disguised activity to expand the gambling network because this charity can originate from the money that people gamble, the winnings of a lottery game will belong to a few people and the rest can be donated to charity, even the prizes for the winners are just symbolic gifts in terms of spirit. If a charity is designed like that, gambling here is just a fundraising entertainment activity, it is not purely forcing people to become gamblers because the money people spend will contribute to building the community, there is not too much personalization.

The citizens could really be actually be able to evaluate or see out if ever those kind of charity gambling gambling is indeed working or really that helps out people on basing on what they have advertised or tell to everybody on which if ever people will be seeing that they are really doing such benefits then there's no doubt that lottery bettors will really be continuing to make out bets accordingly. There are people do saying that this is really that some sort of indirect way on getting some taxes into people or into its citizens itself. Just like been said that there would really be no issues as long those money or funds would really be using up on the right way because if it will really be just that be pursed by the government or wont really be applying into that sole purpose then it do turns out to be just that a shady scheme by the government on really just that trying to look it as a gambling or sweepstakes or lottery but no one actually won up or making up some dummy.

Here in our country on which state lottery are really that popular but there are really some gossips that the ones who are really that chosen up to win are part of the organization or government itself.
There's no solid proof into that but you could be able to tell that there's that possibility specially on a corrupted country.