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December 03, 2024, 04:29:39 PM
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I think because they only think about how to make enough money to eat today or tomorrow, so they don't have to work hard which keeps them poor and there is no progress.

And people who want to improve their lives especially in terms of finances that keep them from being poor, yes they have to work hard for what to find more money and must have the mind to invest or do business in order to change their lives for the better. And the most common thing that causes poverty in someone is because of stupidity, laziness and not wanting to try and that's enough.
I think every time they look for money for their needs today or tomorrow, I think it requires a very hard effort in their minds to ensure that their family's needs are met. I think it is other skill factors that make them a little hampered in moving forward in their lives because low education factors limit their individual access to making much bigger money. Without adequate skills, opportunities to improve their standard of living are very limited.

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December 03, 2024, 11:18:21 PM
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I don't think if we avoid all you have said that an individual won't be poor. I believe poverty is something that's part of us and without poverty showing its self you won't identify who's rich. Poverty is like the negative part of being rich and is also like good and bad. I believe some people are meant to be poor (that makes them to swim in poverty) while some are meant to be rich, is what keeps the world to be balanced, good and bad/poor and rich, think about it, so what you said has a 50/50 chance of working for some.
Why not? everything I mentioned above is a way for someone to make money and save money, how can these steps still make them poor? it's an exception if they live an unfortunate country like Venezuela, Palestine, Syria etc.

I honestly surprised with the way you think, are you someone that believe in "if everyone becomes an entrepreneur, then who will be our employees?"

I agree not all people can be rich, but at least they're not poor, they can always improve their quality life.

That's what you think will happen, like I said is a 50/50 chance and remember no matter how you try is not everyone that follows that step that will become rich, have you asked yourself this question, if everyone becomes rich how would the world be like, who's going to ask for help from who, have you asked yourself that question? Who's going to work for who? Who's going to be the Ma and Sir? And it doesn't matter the country or place, it is meant to be for us to have both the poor and the rich in our midst.
Talking about how I think is something you too should try, you have to think outside the box. Just like some people when they hear about Bitcoin investment how it makes people to be rich, they only think of the profit of that investment and not the negative side of it, you should know that we have few people who say what if something happens how can we start again not just fall into something because you hear of the profits it gives, no life doesn't have to be that way.

 
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December 03, 2024, 11:28:47 PM
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The number one factor for poverty would be where even a healthy population cannot work to earn a living and pay for that days food.  If you can do that much then you are fine, even in wealthy countries that can be the base level most people feel rich enough to say they are not poor.  

Ideally a person or family has alot more security then just their ability to work but that is probably the easiest division between poverty or not.   So inability to work can be natural or the result of war, etc. and other external negative factors.
  Natural causes would be a crop failure perhaps where the work normally expected in an agrarian economy for example is no longer there, this threat is there every year for some countries.

 
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December 04, 2024, 04:21:14 AM
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Initially I was thinking that people who are poor where due to lack of opportunities and the right environment for them to grow and develop themselves but today I heard a different view entirely I was told that poverty is what is inside of you so before you can become rich that you need to be rich inside of you, infact the person even said if you are poor inside of you even if you are given a $million that it will be a matter of time before that money will be wasted and you become poor again.
I believe this theory %100 to be true. We can see how many people where once rich and later become as poor as a begger, and there was no concrete reason for that. And it was just the act of being poor in mindset. Being poor in mindset is just not planning how to utilise money when it comes to them. In conclusion People who planned on how to utilise money before it comes, are rich people and those who has no proper plan for money before it comes are poor because they don't have good use or porpos for money.

 
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December 04, 2024, 05:08:37 AM
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That's what you think will happen, like I said is a 50/50 chance and remember no matter how you try is not everyone that follows that step that will become rich, have you asked yourself this question, if everyone becomes rich how would the world be like, who's going to ask for help from who, have you asked yourself that question? Who's going to work for who? Who's going to be the Ma and Sir? And it doesn't matter the country or place, it is meant to be for us to have both the poor and the rich in our midst.
Talking about how I think is something you too should try, you have to think outside the box. Just like some people when they hear about Bitcoin investment how it makes people to be rich, they only think of the profit of that investment and not the negative side of it, you should know that we have few people who say what if something happens how can we start again not just fall into something because you hear of the profits it gives, no life doesn't have to be that way.
Read my previous, I didn't say everyone will be rich, but at least they can improve their life. They might be in "poor" class, but they're not exactly poor.

What does I mean in poor class, but not exactly poor? look the poverty guideline in The US, if you earn $15K/year you're poor, when I search on reddit it's actually possible for them to live $2000/month.

This is different if you live in third world countries, even you have earn the minimum salary, you're struggling to meet ends your needs.

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December 04, 2024, 05:27:19 AM
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I don't think if we avoid all you have said that an individual won't be poor. I believe poverty is something that's part of us and without poverty showing its self you won't identify who's rich. Poverty is like the negative part of being rich and is also like good and bad. I believe some people are meant to be poor (that makes them to swim in poverty) while some are meant to be rich, is what keeps the world to be balanced, good and bad/poor and rich, think about it, so what you said has a 50/50 chance of working for some.
Why not? everything I mentioned above is a way for someone to make money and save money, how can these steps still make them poor? it's an exception if they live an unfortunate country like Venezuela, Palestine, Syria etc.

I honestly surprised with the way you think, are you someone that believe in "if everyone becomes an entrepreneur, then who will be our employees?"

I agree not all people can be rich, but at least they're not poor, they can always improve their quality life.

That's what you think will happen, like I said is a 50/50 chance and remember no matter how you try is not everyone that follows that step that will become rich, have you asked yourself this question, if everyone becomes rich how would the world be like, who's going to ask for help from who, have you asked yourself that question? Who's going to work for who? Who's going to be the Ma and Sir? And it doesn't matter the country or place, it is meant to be for us to have both the poor and the rich in our midst.
Talking about how I think is something you too should try, you have to think outside the box. Just like some people when they hear about Bitcoin investment how it makes people to be rich, they only think of the profit of that investment and not the negative side of it, you should know that we have few people who say what if something happens how can we start again not just fall into something because you hear of the profits it gives, no life doesn't have to be that way.
One of the main things on why people would really be that hesitant on making up such decision on trying out to follow someone or making up some investment or business decisions just because they are really that hesitant that they might not be ending up on being effective or could really give out some positive results.Its true that if it does work in others doesnt mean that it will also work for you but it is really that having a bad mentality that you will really be having this kind of approach on not to make any move or investment decisions just because you are really that scared into those probabilities but well it wont really be that able to know such result if you wont try. There's no way that you could be able to learn up things on first try and thats why its really important that you should really know on how to accept those errors or mistakes so that in next time you will really be able to know on what you should gonna do. We cant be perfect but on the moment that we do able to gain up experience then you will really be gradually be able to have a good grasps into it.
Success isnt something that could really be achieved in a short period of time and it will really be that involving tons of trials and errors along the way. You wont be able to get out with poverty if you wont really be that doing anything to make it happen. There are also those individuals who do become that poor from being rich because of mismanagement of funds on which this is really just that too sad for them. People will really be able to learn on the time that they do experience those unfortunate conditions on which this is the moment that they will be making up adjustments.
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December 04, 2024, 03:19:13 PM
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I believe that to improve my economic situation depends on myself, when I am aware of the discomfort of my situation then I have to do something that can indeed make my situation better, but it is a problem if we are already aware of the uncomfortable situation and there is no movement at all.
Agree with you, if we want to improve our economic situation or condition we must think well and realize what steps we must take in the future, one of which is we must have the spirit of working hard and stay away from laziness because if we do not control laziness well our economic changes will not develop according to our expectations. while working hard if someone has a hard-working nature he does not easily give up until his hopes are met.
Trying to figure out how to do better should be something everyone needs to learn. You can't just accept the way things are and move on with that, it is not going to work that way and you will just stay the where you are right now. The better approach would be just focusing on how to get better results, and because of that we need to learn how to get a better deal done too.

The best way to get this is not accepting your position in life, and trying to reach a better place as well. If you can do that, which is very hard, then you will always end up trying to do better and you will always try to find some angles and get better approach to all of this. That's the way things are, just don't accept your place, and try to go far.

Yes, by finding out about the good or bad experiences of others, we will be more careful in acting and not careless in making a decision, besides that we also need a good understanding of how we run it according to the right rules and not going off the right track. Indeed, sometimes someone when they are busy or comfortable finding something new they forget about the good position at that time, especially if it is connected to gambling, most gamblers who fall into poverty are easily influenced by tempting tricks and are balanced with very high greed in themselves so that gamblers like that will be very close to poverty.

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December 04, 2024, 04:01:53 PM
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From my experience a huge part of poverty is really a huge part of life in general.  The old saying "the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree" is a reference saying that many people are a product of their environment, that they are a product of their parents.  Typically I see generations of people remaining in poverty due to lack of parenting.  At least here in the United States there are programs for those to get back on track, but If you've got a poor parent who doesn't even educate their children on that...well this is what causes, or partially causes poverty to continue.
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December 04, 2024, 04:05:04 PM
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The number one factor for poverty would be where even a healthy population cannot work to earn a living and pay for that days food.  If you can do that much then you are fine, even in wealthy countries that can be the base level most people feel rich enough to say they are not poor.  

Ideally a person or family has alot more security then just their ability to work but that is probably the easiest division between poverty or not.   So inability to work can be natural or the result of war, etc. and other external negative factors.
  Natural causes would be a crop failure perhaps where the work normally expected in an agrarian economy for example is no longer there, this threat is there every year for some countries.
Having a job or a stable source of income will always be crucial so that survival, mentally, emotionally and financially will be secured. But it seems others would have been too easy on their lives and did not even care getting a job, that’s why poverty exists.

Furthermore, lack of education is also a big threat that would lead to poverty. Most especially not inclined to managing funds and expenses, it will definitely cause extreme poverty in the long run.

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December 04, 2024, 09:46:54 PM
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From my experience a huge part of poverty is really a huge part of life in general.  The old saying "the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree" is a reference saying that many people are a product of their environment, that they are a product of their parents.  Typically I see generations of people remaining in poverty due to lack of parenting.  At least here in the United States there are programs for those to get back on track, but If you've got a poor parent who doesn't even educate their children on that...well this is what causes, or partially causes poverty to continue.

The saying that environment affects the general behavior of an individual is true it can as well affect the third generation of a person if they keep increasing and not doing anything meaningful to ensure they break out from the ugly environment and mentality where they have caged themselves in poverty. Having poor parenting can affect the thinking of the children because people can not give what they don't have and the children can not become better if they end up not breaking out from the environment they find themselves, there are families the government will try to get back together but they end up going back to their poor life if nothing is done to their children I don't think they will have hope of coming out from poverty.

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December 04, 2024, 10:25:50 PM
 #191

Having a job or a stable source of income will always be crucial so that survival, mentally, emotionally and financially will be secured. But it seems others would have been too easy on their lives and did not even care getting a job, that’s why poverty exists.

Furthermore, lack of education is also a big threat that would lead to poverty. Most especially not inclined to managing funds and expenses, it will definitely cause extreme poverty in the long run.
What you said is true, and it seems like it is a fairly common problem that must have happened in every country. In addition, I think that with the job market that seems difficult to get, this applies to large companies that have developed and run well, like in my country, many women work in a factory, making many men unemployed at home, like a life that is exchanged but because of the forced circumstances, this is also a natural thing because it is also for their survival.
Someone who has wasteful behavior will certainly not be able to save or manage their finances well, people like this usually when they have money they will spend it immediately without even the slightest doubt.

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December 05, 2024, 11:10:17 AM
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This is different if you live in third world countries, even you have earn the minimum salary, you're struggling to meet ends your needs.

I live in a so-called third world country, and what is called the minimum salary here is far from the minimum you must have to survive. I don't actually know anyone who lives only on a minimum wage, so little it is (approximately 100 USD, even a bit less). People who earn that kind of money usually have to search for some other wage as well, or they have to count on their relatives to help them. Because it is just impossible to survive inly for that wage.

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December 05, 2024, 01:00:41 PM
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Poverty in an individual is caused by a combination of structural, systemic, and personal factors. One key cause is lack of education and skills, which limits access to well-paying jobs. For example : Indonesia have a lot of people can't had access to school

Economic inequality and systemic barriers, such as discrimination based on race, gender, or social status, further marginalize individuals, reducing opportunities for upward mobility.

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December 05, 2024, 02:28:49 PM
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This is different if you live in third world countries, even you have earn the minimum salary, you're struggling to meet ends your needs.

I live in a so-called third world country, and what is called the minimum salary here is far from the minimum you must have to survive. I don't actually know anyone who lives only on a minimum wage, so little it is (approximately 100 USD, even a bit less). People who earn that kind of money usually have to search for some other wage as well, or they have to count on their relatives to help them. Because it is just impossible to survive inly for that wage.

They needed to find additional income to survive though you really can't rely on that amount but there's nothing you can do about it as you mentioned either way you need to survive, some strives and some embrace it and seek help either with their relatives or ask some aid from the goverment, I guess if there's a will there's also a way and those people who keep fighting for their lives will cope up and survive.

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December 05, 2024, 03:50:01 PM
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Poverty is a state of lack and not having something ( money, material, property) that is needed at that present point in time. Globally speaking poverty has been a major issues with the united nations general assembly even giving out time frame to end poverty and improve the standard of living of the world population especially in third world countries where the rate of poverty is higher.

Infact I have come to the realization that poverty is the biggest problem that we have in the world right now poverty is what actually makes people to define who we are as a person as it confines us to live a life style that is far below our expectations and potential that are deposited in us.
Initially I was thinking that people who are poor where due to lack of opportunities and the right environment for them to grow and develop themselves but today I heard a different view entirely I was told that poverty is what is inside of you so before you can become rich that you need to be rich inside of you, infact the person even said if you are poor inside of you even if you are given a $million that it will be a matter of time before that money will be wasted and you become poor again.

That got me worried and thinking what really makes people to become rich? Let share our opinion on this
Look, I think one of the main reasons for poverty is laziness and reflection of thoughts. Apart from this another major reason is the social environment. But this is definitely after the first one. When people in society overcome laziness, expand their thoughts, and become successful then other people will succeed by holding their hand or following their methods.
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December 05, 2024, 05:35:52 PM
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Look, I think one of the main reasons for poverty is laziness and reflection of thoughts.
glad you said ‘one of’ because i don’t think laziness is the sole reason for poverty

sure being lazy won’t do you any favor but being hard working doesn’t and will not guarantee you of wealth hard work does pay off but just how much? the answer is not that much for others so you can break your back working but not earn so much still while others may get lucky once and get rich forever

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December 05, 2024, 09:50:33 PM
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Initially I was thinking that people who are poor where due to lack of opportunities and the right environment for them to grow and develop themselves but today I heard a different view entirely I was told that poverty is what is inside of you so before you can become rich that you need to be rich inside of you, infact the person even said if you are poor inside of you even if you are given a $million that it will be a matter of time before that money will be wasted and you become poor again.
I believe this theory %100 to be true. We can see how many people where once rich and later become as poor as a begger, and there was no concrete reason for that. And it was just the act of being poor in mindset. Being poor in mindset is just not planning how to utilise money when it comes to them. In conclusion People who planned on how to utilise money before it comes, are rich people and those who has no proper plan for money before it comes are poor because they don't have good use or porpos for money.
Being rich and poor has less to do with the finances available to the person and more to do with the person concerned. If you want to be rich you must change your mindset to that of a rich person and work towards it. You should be more principled, detailed and be ready to take advantage of opportunities when you see one. The preparation entails upgrading yourself to attract riches, be ready to learn and unlearn until you position yourself to receive opportunities that would bring those riches.

I always say that there's a major difference between the rich and poor which is that the rich prepare themselves for opportunities, identify them and benefit from them while the poor are very reluctant to prepare themselves and miss series of opportunities to becoming rich thereby remaining poor.

Also when you're rich, it's easy to become poor if you drop the mentality that made you rich, get lazy and start thinking like a poor man.

 
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Re: What Really cause poverty in an individual
There are many reasons to it, but I'll just share 3.

1. Lack of Education and Skills - Of course, we know that without any education or skills, we will struggle to find well-paying jobs hence, we will become poor and will be included in the "poverty" category. Not knowing any skill or not having an education limits us from different opportunities that could help us in the future.
2. Lack of access to health care - lack of access to an affordable medical care could cause us to not work consistently and we know that expenses will always be there and how can we afford them we are sick? You know what I mean. Wink
3. Economy - we know that a bad economy is a bad thing for the country and its people as well.

I'll add one which is a trait which laziness. Being lazy will not make us rich so as long as you can work, go and find work. The older we are, the fewer the jobs that we can apply because our body can't handle it anymore so now that we're young, work, work, and work so we don't become poor in the future when we're old and can't work anymore. Smiley

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December 06, 2024, 07:45:50 AM
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Initially I was thinking that people who are poor where due to lack of opportunities and the right environment for them to grow and develop themselves but today I heard a different view entirely I was told that poverty is what is inside of you so before you can become rich that you need to be rich inside of you, infact the person even said if you are poor inside of you even if you are given a $million that it will be a matter of time before that money will be wasted and you become poor again.

That got me worried and thinking what really makes people to become rich? Let share our opinion on this

According to this logic, if a rich man gives absolutely all his money, then after a while he will have money again on his own, because he is internally rich.
The fairy tales that the poor are to blame for poverty are deliberately inspired, because the essence boils down to accusing the victim that he is to blame for being a victim. This is a characteristic logic of criminal thinking. Whereas you don't have to be a wise man to see how external circumstances prevent millions of people from escaping poverty. These external circumstances are created by the rich.


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It is also very important to acquire the habits of rich people. Carefully study their daily lifestyle and highlight several specific aspects for yourself. For example, daily reading of literature. As far as I know, rich people read a lot and try to allocate several hours a day for this. I completely agree with this fact and I have no contradiction about it. This is just one of many examples. You don't have to go far. Nowadays you can read a person's biography online. If only you had the desire to do it.

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