Bitcoin is stronger with time, and there are less "Bitcoin is dead" calls!

[taufik123]

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This do simply means that recognition and adoption is something that becoming even more rampant and more better on which those negative words arent really that common anymore.
This has been started on the moment or time that institutional funds are really that flowing into this market. Adoption is something which is really that on the move
and this is something which is really that very good to see or look at specially into those who have holding it for so long.

Everyone finally glanced at Bitcoin and some negative words that appeared into words that would never be spoken again.
Given how Warren Buffett said that Bitcoin would be ZERO and in the end Bitcoin kept climbing to reach ATH again, this proves that no one can stop bitcoin., It is decentralized, no one regulates even the person who is the richest person in the world.

Does anyone still deal with those BTC obituaries? This is one of the biggest nonsense I have come across in the past 10 years and proof that there are many more people in the world who believe in everything that the mainstream media tells them, than there are people who think for themselves.

The mainstream media is only media that is manipulated for the benefit of several parties, and it is no longer surprising that the news that appears always corners Bitcoin and spreads FUD which has actually been completed and raised again.

The people who say about Bitcoin will die, will be ZERO and worthless, those are those who don't understand.
seeing on someone's YouTube channel saying Bitcoin will be worthless, I can only laugh and feel sorry for the person for not getting the opportunity to buy bitcoin at a cheap price.

[el kaka22]

Obviously we are doing great now, and the price is at near 100k levels so that means a lot of people will doubt about "bitcoin is dead" but I believe that we are going to see that again when the time comes. We are in a bull run so they are not making those type of news anymore, but when the bear market comes and we drop 50% again, they will talk about "end of bitcoin" once again, that's how they get clicks, that's how they say unreal things so that people would get mad at them and write to them and engage them, that's literally how they make money.

This doesn't mean that they are right, they are wrong but they know they are wrong when they say bitcoin is dead, they are fully aware that it is not dead, they just do that for some more money and attention. With the bull market right now, there is no money in saying that, because people would just look at the price and ignore them, the money is at "will it be a million dollars!!" now, to hype people up even more.

[Abiky]

https://99bitcoins.com/bitcoin-obituaries/
https://bitcoindeaths.com/

These websites are for Bitcoin obituaries in different years and we can see numbers of "Bitcoin is dead" obituaries decrease with years.
In 2024, there are only 6 "Bitcoin is dead" obituaries.

With time, Bitcoin becomes stronger, more popular in adoption and acceptance, more governments accept it, more companies and people accept and use bitcoins, and it's logic to see a decrease of "Bitcoin is dead" obituaries.

Details of "Bitcoin is dead" with timeline.
https://bitcoindeaths.com/posts/

By year we have
2010: 1
2011: 6
2013: 2
2014: 24
2015: 29
2016: 23
2017: 93
2018: 73
2019: 40
2020: 20
2021: 39
2022: 27
2023: 14
2024: 6

Bitcoin has been "dead" and "resurrected" many times. The ones who usually say such things are none other than haters and sore losers. Haters because they don't want to believe in Bitcoin. And sore losers because they've lost so much money in a bear market, that they think BTC will die and go to $0 soon. Time has proven them wrong, as Bitcoin continue to grow in every way. Network hashrate is on the rise, supply is getting scarcer, while nodes are steadily growing. Not to mention, institutional investors are adopting BTC at a fast pace.

Eventually, Bitcoin will overcome Gold as its market cap goes all the way to "Mars". It might even replace Fiat if governments it legal tender. The facts are the facts. As long as the core Blockchain network remains open source and decentralized, Bitcoin will live forever. Cheers.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

Eventually, Bitcoin will overcome Gold as its market cap goes all the way to "Mars". It might even replace Fiat if governments it legal tender. The facts are the facts. As long as the core Blockchain network remains open source and decentralized, Bitcoin will live forever. Cheers.

It is possible with market caps of Bitcoin and gold and their total supplies, current supplies and future (new) supplies. Bitcoin can overtake Gold in market cap but it will need to increase more than 10 times from today price or even much more than 10 times because during required time for Bitcoin price growth, gold will have its market cap growth too.

Current market caps of gold and Bitcoin.
Gold is $17.842 T and Bitcoin is $1.914 T.

https://companiesmarketcap.com/assets-by-market-cap/

[SilverCryptoBullet]

It's is another year, 2025, and Bitcoin is lively, not dead.

Bitcoin has performed outstandingly since 2009, the below table is since 2011 for Bitcoin Yearly ROIs.

If you need Bitcoin price in years earlier than 2011, you can use this website with price data since 2009-10-05 with a first ever trading price for Bitcoin on New Liberty Standard exchange.
https://bitcoin.zorinaq.com/price/

[Saint-loup]

With ETFs approved by financial authorities and traded at Wallstreet and even one country using it as legal tender, those figures are not surprising, but it seems San Salvador has finally took it out from being an official legal currency in the country. So the adoption is not as linear and simple as you can think. USA have currently a rather pro-crypto governement but it could change in 4 years with the election of a new POTUS less liberal.

[fikrett]

With ETFs approved by financial authorities and traded at Wallstreet and even one country using it as legal tender, those figures are not surprising, but it seems San Salvador has finally took it out from being an official legal currency in the country. So the adoption is not as linear and simple as you can think. USA have currently a rather pro-crypto governement but it could change in 4 years with the election of a new POTUS less liberal.

Sometimes, we need to make a step back to make two steps forward.
That's how I see the situation of El Sal regarding BTC, because, after all - their main goal is the prosperity of their country, with any means necessary for that.

[Abiky]

With ETFs approved by financial authorities and traded at Wallstreet and even one country using it as legal tender, those figures are not surprising, but it seems San Salvador has finally took it out from being an official legal currency in the country. So the adoption is not as linear and simple as you can think. USA have currently a rather pro-crypto governement but it could change in 4 years with the election of a new POTUS less liberal.

"Less liberal"? Don't you mean "liberal"? Because current POTUS Donald Trump, is conservative. While that is the case, he's pro-crypto just like El Salvador's Nayib Bukele and Argentina's Javier Milei. I'm disappointed to hear that El Salvador will no longer be recognizing Bitcoin as legal tender. This will set back adoption for the cryptocurrency in the country for a while. But it's not the "end of the world".

As time has shown us, Bitcoin has survived the most "brutal" situations. That's thanks to its decentralized and censorship-resistant design. At the pace it's going, I think it's going to a last a lifetime. It's never going to "die". I wonder how haters are going to deal with that?

[d5000]

"Less liberal"? Don't you mean "liberal"?

In European and South American countries "liberal" means economic liberalism. Javier Milei, for example, is not only called a "libertarian" in Argentine media but also "liberal". And while Trump of course is more conservative than liberal, his platform embraces economic liberalism to a certain extent.

Probably they referred also to "liberal crypto regulation", i.e. less bureaucracy, hurdles and surveillance for service providers.

I somehow agree with saint-loup, it's possible that political interference could influence Bitcoin's success and "go back and forth". That's also why I generally am skeptical about hopes that politicians like Trump or Bukele could make Bitcoin successful. IMO it would be better if it grows organically, as a currency "of the people". And then it would be more resilient. While I think that it will be difficult to "kill" Bitcoin now, it could still suffer major setbacks. And politics are one of the risks I have in mind here.

[Abiky]

In European and South American countries "liberal" means economic liberalism. Javier Milei, for example, is not only called a "libertarian" in Argentine media but also "liberal". And while Trump of course is more conservative than liberal, his platform embraces economic liberalism to a certain extent.

Probably they referred also to "liberal crypto regulation", i.e. less bureaucracy, hurdles and surveillance for service providers.

I somehow agree with saint-loup, it's possible that political interference could influence Bitcoin's success and "go back and forth". That's also why I generally am skeptical about hopes that politicians like Trump or Bukele could make Bitcoin successful. IMO it would be better if it grows organically, as a currency "of the people". And then it would be more resilient. While I think that it will be difficult to "kill" Bitcoin now, it could still suffer major setbacks. And politics are one of the risks I have in mind here.

Right. I've forgot about that. It's funny how "liberalism" has another significance in America. Probably because Democrats used the term in relation to supporting liberal rights (gender inequality, abortion, etc). Anyhow, history has shown us that Bitcoin performs well in "liberal" environments. Even countries that are more restrictive, haven't been able to stop its growth. That's thanks to the way Bitcoin was designed.

Now politics are having some influence in Bitcoin as politicians begin to embrace it. Trump, Bukele, and Milei being pro-crypto presidents, have boosted mainstream popularity for BTC. Most people are now getting into it with the hopes of getting rich in the long run (store of value). Only a small minority uses it as currency. Part of this has to do with volatility and high network fees. We shouldn't expect this to change anytime soon. At least, Bitcoin is free to use (as in freedom). What's stopping you from using it the way you want? Bitcoin is growing stronger each day, so "death" is very unlikely at the moment.

[Redley555]

When it's label as "Bitcoin is dead," I assume those were the times when Bitcoin took a hard dump. But with the decreasing frequency of those claims, it’s clear the market is maturing, leading to less volatility. This was expected, especially with the rise of institutional investors pouring in billions to secure their position in the supply. The direction we’re heading in now is the right one, and there’s no reason to doubt Bitcoin’s future or think it’s overvalued.

I was one of the people that thought Bitcoin was dead because of it’s decline, but am happy i persevered

And i don't blame anybody who thinks Bitcoin is dead at that time, you just had to keep pushing that's one thing a winner does he keeps pushing despite the challenges ahead

[FortuneFollower]

I was one of the people that thought Bitcoin was dead because of it’s decline, but am happy i persevered

And i don't blame anybody who thinks Bitcoin is dead at that time, you just had to keep pushing that's one thing a winner does he keeps pushing despite the challenges ahead

Dumps are part of the process.

BTC is still the same on the up or down, and its values - they are still the same. And that's why BTC still reaches new heights after being toppled down by the market itself and liquidity moving elsewhere.

[shield132]

I don't think someone will dare to call Bitcoin is dead.

Peter Schiff, as a Bitcoin naysayer, is getting bullied because Bitcoin price almost reach $100K.

How will someone dare to call Bitcoin dead when one coin was worth a few cents and today it is worth $100,000. It's not a random price, Bitcoin is stably worth this much. In 2018, Peter Schiff advised people not to buy BTC at $3800, then in 2019 he ironically said that we should keep dreaming because Bitcoin is never going to hit $100,000.
This man is a Mr Negative. He always posts about how catastrophic the financial situation will become, he accidentally got lucky in 2008 and since that day, he thinks that he is an expert. Today, this man gets bullied, but he deserves it.

[Mastercon]

1)Inspiration: got into crypto + memecoins, got interested in decentralized money, went down the rabbit hole of bitcoin and made the decision that everything else in front of me was based on deception and "trust"
2) For all time. thats like asking how often will you get paid in money
3) I wont sell for fiat, i will sell for things i need to live my life (Maslow's hierarchy defines the basics well)
4) More than paper money printed by governments. Global recognition isn't necessary, you just need enough to live. You'd be granted a unique ability to move jurisdictions by being a sovereign digital individual

Not your keys, not your bitcoin. it's a derivative, subject to the whims of politics + shareholders + owners.

Bitcoin twitter doesn't shower engagement on posts by people visiting these locations and saying 'eh, I couldn't pay at this place, or this place, had this issue with how things are being handled, etc', and the people going to post about it on social media know that damn well. Nuance doesn't sell.It's nowhere near as good as it could be. Like most of the places people call 'Bitcoin X', be it jungle, beach, island, it's overhyped as being further along in adoption than it actually is. But comparing it to the rest of the world, sure, it's good.Madeira has embraced Bitcoin (to a degree), mainland Portugal has actually increased its taxes on Bitcoin from "none at all if you aren't actually trading" to a hold-time based CGT regime to be more inline with the rest of Europe. You'll be very lucky to find physical which directly accept Bitcoin outside of cities, and even then, mostly centralised around Porto and Lisbon.

[john_egbert]

I don't think someone will dare to call Bitcoin is dead.

Peter Schiff, as a Bitcoin naysayer, is getting bullied because Bitcoin price almost reach $100K.

How will someone dare to call Bitcoin dead when one coin was worth a few cents and today it is worth $100,000. It's not a random price, Bitcoin is stably worth this much. In 2018, Peter Schiff advised people not to buy BTC at $3800, then in 2019 he ironically said that we should keep dreaming because Bitcoin is never going to hit $100,000.
This man is a Mr Negative. He always posts about how catastrophic the financial situation will become, he accidentally got lucky in 2008 and since that day, he thinks that he is an expert. Today, this man gets bullied, but he deserves it.

Conservative and old ways will do that to you But as I know, he goes to the future BTC conference, so we will see what he says there.

[ovcijisir]

Big institutions started to buy BTC, same institutions that own bunch of media companies. Now they can't bash Bitcoin too much because it would harm their profit.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

Dumps are part of the process.

BTC is still the same on the up or down, and its values - they are still the same. And that's why BTC still reaches new heights after being toppled down by the market itself and liquidity moving elsewhere.

Bitcoin only has ups and downs but it does not have pumps and dumps like altcoins, shitcoins and scam coins. Let's clearly differentiate Bitcoin price movements, growths against those generally called Shitcoins.

It's proofless to call Bitcoin is a dead coin or "Bitcoin is dead" with this superb bullish chart.
https://charts.bitbo.io/price-current-date/

How will someone dare to call Bitcoin dead when one coin was worth a few cents and today it is worth $100,000. It's not a random price, Bitcoin is stably worth this much. In 2018, Peter Schiff advised people not to buy BTC at $3800, then in 2019 he ironically said that we should keep dreaming because Bitcoin is never going to hit $100,000.
This man is a Mr Negative. He always posts about how catastrophic the financial situation will become, he accidentally got lucky in 2008 and since that day, he thinks that he is an expert. Today, this man gets bullied, but he deserves it.

Who does care about Peter Schiff aka Mr. Negatively Anti-Bitcoin Man?

Even Peter Schiff once in a while, used to admit that he hope he would have bought bitcoin in the past.
https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2024/03/14/gold-bug-peter-schiff-says-he-wishes-hed-bought-bitcoin-in-2010

Peter Schiff, a prominent stockbroker and gold investor, rejected the opportunity to invest in bitcoin when it was trading at a few dollars in 2010.

“Do I wish I had made the decision to have thrown $10,000, $50,000, $100,000 into it?” Schiff said on an Impact Theory podcast on Wednesday in a debate with crypto investor Raoul Pal, discussing if bitcoin was going to $1 million or zero. “Sure. I may be worth hundreds of millions assuming I didn’t sell. But again, I don’t know what I would have done had I made that decision.”

“I would have bought it just betting on other people being dumb enough to buy it and pay a higher price,” he said, likening a successful bitcoin investment to a gamble rather than a “genius” move.

[JeffBrad12]

One of my friends will jokingly say that some of the people who punished these Bitcoin obituaries may have died but Bitcoin is still alive and waxing stronger . These obituaries usually increase during the bear season because of the decline in Bitcoin price. Sometimes unfavourable government policies can also necessitate such obituary announcements. I suspect that the ban on Bitcoin mining in China would have given rise to some obituary announcements.

Even without bearish sentiment and ban on bitcoin mining there are people who called bitcoin dead already in some bitcoin hating subreddit just because it dumped 5% from ATH.
It's nothing but just a coping mechanism in my opinion, to call bitcoin dead for a little dump while obviously it's nowhere close to dead.

[hero_the_bossman]

Even without bearish sentiment and ban on bitcoin mining there are people who called bitcoin dead already in some bitcoin hating subreddit just because it dumped 5% from ATH.
It's nothing but just a coping mechanism in my opinion, to call bitcoin dead for a little dump while obviously it's nowhere close to dead.

Some people are going to FUD no matter the case. They can't bear any loss - big and small, and they lash it out onto the things they can.

[michellee]

One of my friends will jokingly say that some of the people who punished these Bitcoin obituaries may have died but Bitcoin is still alive and waxing stronger . These obituaries usually increase during the bear season because of the decline in Bitcoin price. Sometimes unfavourable government policies can also necessitate such obituary announcements. I suspect that the ban on Bitcoin mining in China would have given rise to some obituary announcements.

Even without bearish sentiment and ban on bitcoin mining there are people who called bitcoin dead already in some bitcoin hating subreddit just because it dumped 5% from ATH.
It's nothing but just a coping mechanism in my opinion, to call bitcoin dead for a little dump while obviously it's nowhere close to dead.

When someone already hate something, he will still hate unless he can open his mind and try to accept. Without that, he will just still hate without any chance to accept.

Those people will difficult to accept Bitcoin and will say many bad things about Bitcoin. They make other people afraid and not invest in Bitcoin but that will not work for people who can see the benefit of Bitcoin for themselves.

We don't have think about those who hate Bitcoin because Bitcoin can still survive with or without them. Even Bitcoin will attract other people to have Bitcoin investment.