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December 25, 2024, 06:57:52 AM
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The thing you are forgetting is supply and demand, without regs. Regs can exist for the big guys and be reduced for the little guys. America making its own products to sell to itself, is simply taking other countries of the world out of the equation. America is easily big enough to supply all of its own needs without the other countries of the world. What this does is MAGA, without having the other countries to be a weight around the neck of America.

What would a BRICS of trade between other countries of the world do? Let them do it if they want. America doesn't need them. MAGA, without the added weight of other countries. But the best thing that will come out of this is that Americans will recognize that each State is a country within the US. There will be no lack of trade between these American 'countries'. MAGA.

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Trump is serious about tariffs, lol. Be scared you other countries. Tariffs are coming. Kneel or die, lol. Study the info at the site, and see that tariffs bring in tons of money. Trump will be able to easily cancel the IRS tax.Everybody will benefit from tariffs.

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Trump Not Budging on Tariffs

The Wall Street Journal reports CEOs Want Trump to Change Course on Tariffs. He Isn't Budging.

Donald Trump's tariff threats have triggered a behind-the-scenes lobbying campaign to soften or alter the president-elect's plans. But the effort faces a potentially insurmountable roadblock: Trump isn't budging.

So far, executives are facing setbacks as they canvass Trump's aides for advice on how to influence the president-elect's next steps. Trump is largely acting on his own, leaving his incoming team of advisers with few opportunities to shape his thinking. His recent late-night social-media statements about tariffs have come with little warning even to some of his closest allies, according to people familiar with the matter.

Trump's team has told corporate consultants there is no waving the president-elect off his plans to make liberal use of tariffs once he gets into office, the people said.

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I think that Trump will try to improve international trade deals by slapping tariffs or threatening to. However it is very unlikely that he is going to achieve any result out of it other than yet another self-cheering operation.

International deals are fine-tuned and usual the result of many years of technical negotiations. Comming into the party pretending to know more than anyone else is bound to cause a dissaster - but a disassarter to all. Trump knows the report that has been presented above, he just thinks he does not need to work with numbers or data.

There are too many factors to easily determine if tariffs will be good or bad for the States. History shows that when they were used, they made a more prosperous, stronger nation. The US has a large land mass, lots of raw materials, and the ingenuity to make all its own products... or invent something new.

The UK isn't like that. Think of having to move London a hundred miles away because the richest iron ore deposits were found under her.

Tariffs might help one nation while destroying another.

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December 30, 2024, 03:04:32 PM
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There are too many factors to easily determine if tariffs will be good or bad for the States.
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It's a way to put one of the largest taxes ever for ignorant Americans, without them understanding that they are paying for it.
It might help domestic producers if done correctly, but as trump doesn't understand math or tariffs, it's probably going to be a disaster.

Now he is saying that EU should buy oil from US or else it's "Tariffs all the way", not understanding that paying those tariffs would be way cheaper then buying their oil. But yeah, it's always going to be about concept of understanding for him.

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December 30, 2024, 03:13:21 PM
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There are too many factors to easily determine if tariffs will be good or bad for the States.
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It's a way to put one of the largest taxes ever for ignorant Americans, without them understanding that they are paying for it.
It might help domestic producers if done correctly, but as trump doesn't understand math or tariffs, it's probably going to be a disaster.

Now he is saying that EU should buy oil from US or else it's "Tariffs all the way", not understanding that paying those tariffs would be way cheaper then buying their oil. But yeah, it's always going to be about concept of understanding for him.

The guy is trying to twist other's countries arms, but I think his view of international relations and commerce is far too simplistics - I think his view of nearly everything is far to simplistic. Trade is not only trade, it is soft power and cultural dominance. There are many things you cannot measure just in the balance sheet and those are sometimes the ones that matter.
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