Beware of DuckDice.io – My Disappointing Experience and Fairness Issues🚨

[Horsbyname]

Alright  DuckDice.io representative kirito89 is going to provide evidence of his accusations to Holydarkness.

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I am going to trust holydarkness for something that I am sure of, and let’s see what come out.


@holydarkness you have my consent.

But, let's cross all of them. Frankly, I got exhausted by you and your antique. So let's metaphorically forget everything for a minute, let's start a whole new page, let's say I can get Kirito89 to show me what's allowed by DuckDice to be seen by a third party [me] that will prove beyond doubt that you do tried to extort the casino, that you're not as clean and a poor victim of DuckDice as you try [and failed] to portray, do we [the public here is the witness] have your consent to let DuckDice release that info to me, as well as your words that you trust that I'll stand on neutral ground and reported to the public what I see 100% based on what I see, be it in favor of you or to DuckDice?

Sure, I think Kirito will read that you've given your consent when he logged back in. I'll reach him too, just in case. But for the time being, perhaps you can address my post that's currently sitting sadly in the corner? The one about the purpose of your thread? I think you accidentally missed them.

Hi there, I agree with this . Will send you all relevant information.   1. Showing OP has lied about his bets, 2. Emails from him asking for money.






Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

[Horsbyname]

Updates regarding the Evidences that Holydarkness was suppose to receive from Kirito89.


Holydarknes didn't act as a bridge and posted a novel without containing a single piece of evidences we were agreed on.


I asked him to reread the agreement and stand by his words. Holydarkness dropped all his statements upon which we were agreed.

His Judgment can be read here

No Evidences

Well, your novel contains many line defending duckdice.io openly now.

I will cut it Short, You have ignored many questions upon which we were agreed, and I repost it because you forget things.


We agreed by

Kirirto89 you have to show your evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you was blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. You have to provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.[/b]


We are at the point where Kirito89 gotta back his accusations. I’ve accepted your deal, gave consent already Now the ball’s in his court.

You covered none of them but wrote a novel about things which is already posted in the thread you got nothing from duckdice.io at all-what you have is already in the thread posted by me. You wasn’t supposed to be the Private eye for the things reviled already in public.


What do you mean by

DuckDice or Kirito89 as the representative of DuckDice, who entered that written agreement with you, are allowed to raise a type-3 flag against you, for a breach of written contract.

Having said that its mean I can create 10 flags against kirito89 right? No?

Kirito89, I've got a written consent through PM from OP to validate the situation of similar email account. It came with several terms, but after mulling over it the entire day, I think the best approach is to actually leave both parties in the blind, so, simplified, kindly provide me [through PM, not here publicly] the evidence of those email similarities, and I'll take it from there, if you don't mind.

Thank you for the assist holydarkness,  I'm curently on vacation for 2 days.  So once I return I will come to your dms with the email evidence .





Kirito89,
Duckdice Support.

How about when he asked for my consent to share the evidence in public, I allowed him to do it, but he didn't, Should I raise a flag against him?

And 2.  Do I have permission to publicly show the email address you've been in contact with us? that way I can show the blackmailer's email address, and let bitcointalk give their oppinion on it .

Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

And when he says NO to that sharing, you didn’t ask me to create flag against him-Instead you post the story of red steel bars

Why double standard 9 years old reputable bridge? You were supposed to be the bridge to see if the accusation of Kirito89 is true or false but you completely drop it and sticked to a bunch of numbers showing no result but tied to me because I provided the proof showing 33% chances.

Yes, I still stand by Statement but since they didn’t provide proof of if my losing were fair and was not manipulated by Duckdice.io I want them to pay my loses back.

What do you think why I come to bitcointalk and create the thread? To get accused from someone’s who have history of accusing users who raise voice against them, who have history of manipulating bets results?

at all you didn’t obey your duty of being a bridge. I still stand my words only if you stand by yours, ask kirito89 to provide evidences of his accusations

1. show evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you were blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. Provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.

This is what we were agreed on

Holydarkness completely abandoned his statements.

And oh, perhaps give your consent for DuckDice to share your email? To prove or disprove their rebuttal about similar email address with the scammer? If you feel uncomfortable with your account being publicly disclosed, I'd like to offer an option where they send it to me, for-my-eyes-only basis, and I'll reproduce a screenshot of that proof they have me, with several characters of the email being censored. I'll give my best to find a balance where it's enough to maintain privacy yet also prove [or disprove] the similarities.

[nutildah]

I'm just curious: what do you hope to accomplish with this thread? The evidence surrounding your "fairness issues" has been proven to be non-existent, so there's no way we as forum members can help you with your case.

[holydarkness]

Updates regarding the Evidences that Holydarkness was suppose to receive from Kirito89.


Holydarknes didn't act as a bridge and posted a novel without containing a single piece of evidences we were agreed on.


I asked him to reread the agreement and stand by his words. Holydarkness dropped all his statements upon which we were agreed.

His Judgment can be read here

No Evidences

[...]

Umm... you actually forgot to quote the post that posted the findings I found upon looking at the evidence provided to me by DuckDice through Kirito89 [quoted below the double line, for the sake of transparency], as well as to address the matter I asked following the findings, where your narrative changed from where your threads's aim is seeking transparency of their provable fairness due to your 158 losing streak, to offering them a fair offer.

I don't think the two can mutually exist; Either you look for transparency or you look for a refund.

So, I'll ask again: "a fair offer for what, if I may ask?"

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The results of what's provided to me, and I can confirm, are as what Kirito89 said above:

Of Provable Fairness due to Losing Streak
The spreadsheet given to me was not like the previous attempt made in collaboration with Khaled0111 where the list shows the longest losing streak in under or over. The spreadsheet that is in my possession, however, is basically the betting history of the player itself, his winning and his losing. 0 and 1. A yes and a no. A win and a lose.

With about thousands of entries that made my eyes water just to scan them, not only that the statement of playing in 15.5% chance is unfounded as the bets were made with 33% chance, the more important point that I think is better to be pointed out rather than the 33% v. 15.5% is that I can not find a losing streak of 158 times. Not even a 50 losing streak in a row.

With this, I believe I can safely say that the claim of 158 losing streak at 15.5% is unproven to be true.

Of Fairness and Transparency as The Aim of The Thread
The player sent DuckDice an email asking for a refund if transparency can not be provided, despite the claim that the purpose of the threads are to get clarification of the losing streak. I can see that the emails are indeed sent from the players email address as shown on the other thread.

Though it entitle overseers to question the real purpose of the threads, I choose to ask the player, for the very last time, of his true intent: with above explanation that provable fairness being proven, that 158 losing streak never existed and DuckDice has been transparent with their games, that it was not rigged, do you still stick to your original narrative, that you only seek for clarification and transparency, thus accepting above findings as satisfactory and made peace with your loss, or were the threads are indeed an attempt to get a refund for loss during your stay with DuckDice, and thus, the above transparency through betting history is negligible and you will not accept any answer until the refund being initiated?

[...] And since I am still standing from the neutral ground, in the spirit of transparency, I "exported" the data to AI, since reading the line one by one proven to take a lot of time and put strain on my eyes so much, and I am not that good in writing spreadsheet formula that can easily pull the data off, this is the tally of the winning/losing streak according to the data being processed by AI:

Code:

Here are the five longest streaks of consecutive 1s and 0s in your data:

1s → 8 times
1s → 7 times
1s → 7 times
1s → 6 times
1s → 6 times

0s → 18 times
0s → 17 times
0s → 17 times
0s → 17 times
0s → 16 times

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[Horsbyname]

May I know if the bets result you have now is showing Wining chances? If not how you calculated 33% chances losing streak instead of 15.5%?


As you forget things very quickly when it is a bit against casinos, I will remind you again your statements and Kirito89 Statements upon which we were agreed to make you a BRIDGE between us.

Please read it this time don’t dodge it holydarknees, you have to be a bridge not representative of a casino, if kirito89 has sent you the evidences of his accusations please share it.

We agreed by

Kirirto89 you have to show your evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you was blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. You have to provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.[/b]

You covered none of them but wrote a novel about things which is already posted in the thread you got nothing from duckdice.io at all-what you have is already in the thread posted by me. You wasn’t supposed to be the Private eye for the things reviled already in public.


What do you mean by

DuckDice or Kirito89 as the representative of DuckDice, who entered that written agreement with you, are allowed to raise a type-3 flag against you, for a breach of written contract.

Having said that its mean I can create 10 flags against kirito89 right? No?

Kirito89, I've got a written consent through PM from OP to validate the situation of similar email account. It came with several terms, but after mulling over it the entire day, I think the best approach is to actually leave both parties in the blind, so, simplified, kindly provide me [through PM, not here publicly] the evidence of those email similarities, and I'll take it from there, if you don't mind.

Thank you for the assist holydarkness,  I'm curently on vacation for 2 days.  So once I return I will come to your dms with the email evidence .

Kirito89,
Duckdice Support.

How about when he asked for my consent to share the evidence in public, I allowed him to do it, but he didn't, Should I raise a flag against him?

Again

And 2.  Do I have permission to publicly show the email address you've been in contact with us? that way I can show the blackmailer's email address, and let bitcointalk give their oppinion on it .

Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

And when he says NO to that sharing, you didn’t ask me to create flag against him-Instead you post the story of red steel bars

Why double standard 9 years old reputable bridge? You were supposed to be the bridge to see if the accusation of Kirito89 is true or false but you completely drop it and sticked to a bunch of numbers showing no result but tied to me because I provided the proof showing 33% chances.

at all you didn’t obey your duty of being a bridge. I still stand my words only if you stand by yours, ask kirito89 to provide evidences of his accusations

1. show evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you were blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. Provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.

This is what we were agreed on

Also I quoted a post of your, Where you  were kinda pushing me to allow Duckdice.io representative to share the email and other evidences or I should trust you and you will see the evidences. But now you have completely abandoned your statements.

And oh, perhaps give your consent for FJ DuckDice to share your email? To prove or disprove their rebuttal about similar email address with the scammer? If you feel uncomfortable with your account being publicly disclosed, I'd like to offer an option where they send it to me, for-my-eyes-only basis, and I'll reproduce a screenshot of that proof they have me, with several characters of the email being censored. I'll give my best to find a balance where it's enough to maintain privacy yet also prove [or disprove] the similarities.

[holydarkness]

May I know if the bets result you have now is showing Wining chances? If not how you calculated 33% chances losing streak instead of 15.5%?


As you forget things very quickly when it is a bit against casinos, I will remind you again your statements and Kirito89 Statements upon which we were agreed to make you a BRIDGE between us.

Please read it this time don’t dodge it holydarknees, you have to be a bridge not representative of a casino, if kirito89 has sent you the evidences of his accusations please share it.

I am snipping the rest of your post as they're a false narrative. Addressing the point above as well as explaining [yet again] of what happened:

As stated, it is not under my purview to share the evidence. You can ask DuckDice or Kirito89 if you want to see them, but it not under my right to share any of it as I am --as you write yourself-- just acting as a bridge.

Moreover, I am sure that the agreement is for DuckDice through Kirito89 to share to me, not publicly.

But it seems you forgot the real arrangement of which you both gave your consent. Let me remind you the agreement that you and DuckDice through Kirito89 agreed, since you seemingly "forget" them, because... certainly you did not deliberately trying to twist the narrative by snipping here and there and re-write the scenario:

The whole post of mine, which start the agreement can be found on #8, of which, the snippet that exactly speaking about the point of the agreement is as below:

[...]

But, let's cross all of them. Frankly, I got exhausted by you and your antique. So let's metaphorically forget everything for a minute, let's start a whole new page, let's say I can get Kirito89 to show me what's allowed by DuckDice to be seen by a third party [me] that will prove beyond doubt that you do tried to extort the casino, that you're not as clean and a poor victim of DuckDice as you try [and failed] to portray, do we [the public here is the witness] have your consent to let DuckDice release that info to me, as well as your words that you trust that I'll stand on neutral ground and reported to the public what I see 100% based on what I see, be it in favor of you or to DuckDice?

Of which, you gave your agreement on #21, quoted below:

[...]

I am going to trust holydarkness for something that I am sure of, and let’s see what come out.


@holydarkness you have my consent.

But, let's cross all of them. Frankly, I got exhausted by you and your antique. So let's metaphorically forget everything for a minute, let's start a whole new page, let's say I can get Kirito89 to show me what's allowed by DuckDice to be seen by a third party [me] that will prove beyond doubt that you do tried to extort the casino, that you're not as clean and a poor victim of DuckDice as you try [and failed] to portray, do we [the public here is the witness] have your consent to let DuckDice release that info to me, as well as your words that you trust that I'll stand on neutral ground and reported to the public what I see 100% based on what I see, be it in favor of you or to DuckDice?

Of which, DuckDice through Kirito89 gave their consent that seal the deal on #25:

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Hi there, I agree with this . Will send you all relevant information.   1. Showing OP has lied about his bets, 2. Emails from him asking for money.

Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

As can be seen, the new deal you both entered is fulfilled from DuckDice's side, as do me from my side. Yours though, was not fulfilled; to trust me that I am standing on neutral ground when reviewing what's given to me and reported 100% based on what I seen. In fact, we can safely consider [beyond doubt, if I may add] that you violated it not long after [in #42] I gave my findings which was based on the evidence given,

[...]
Now Let’s see why I doubted you that you are not neutral at all
[...]

The findings itself validate what Kirito89 said about the bets, that in my findings, there were no losing streak that much, that I even use the help of AI to process the thousands of entries shown to me. And that you indeed emailed them to ask for refund. Standing alone, IMO, that was not a smoking gun itself, a bit hot at the nozzle, but the smoke was not there. But then, you pressed the trigger, and now the gun is smoking and your hand is red:

[...]
It was not a blackmailing attempt at all it was a fair offer

And this is why you go with your crusade, snipping posts and replaying words and words in an attempt to twist the narrative that got revealed upon the proof given by DuckDice.

Let me ask again, since you seemingly keep avoiding it, so we can get it clear: A fair offer for what, if I may ask? I thought all you seek is transparency? A clarification of DuckDice Provable Fairness. So, what offer is that?

Please help us all understand that before you start with your new argument. Though I am not sure what else to argue, since the provable fairness and transparency issue is already cleared.

[Horsbyname]

I am snipping the rest of your post as they're a false narrative. Addressing the point above as well as explaining [yet again] of what happened:

They are not false at all, the post I posted is all your statements and Kirito89 statements, how you can call it false?  You have violated your own rules, there wasn’t any new agreement at all.

This is an excuse that you can’t share the evidences- Still you are making conclusion base on it, You don’t have any evidences at all.

You have abandon many of your statements time to time just to defend duckdice.io, Here are few that you abandoned already:

You Stated earlier that there is no data on earth which can show the details of my bets. And if duckdice.io provide one its mean they are cheating and it will a suicide situation for duckdice.io

The fact that they can't make a rebuttal of you having 158 losing streak because they can't look at it on your betting history in their database, would indicate that the history itself is, indeed, no longer exist.

Why is it no longer exist? Because it's removed.

Why is it removed? Because of the right to be forgotten.

Where's the proof of it? Nothing. Not from their side. It's being forgotten. Burned.

It's a really simple situation that I am sure everybody reading this case can easily understand. I hope you can understand the situation that applied now too.

 DuckDice wrote all of your information. Your name, DoB, address, other KYC related things, your deposit and withdrawal history, your betting log, your bonuses, your chat, your complaints, your email, every single thing tha happened to a "horsbyname" during his stay in DuckDice.

So, the book burned.

If they can provide it, it means the data was not erased and their statement that your data is no longer exist is false, thus, a lie, and logically they will not say this as it'll be a reputation-suicide. Thus, even if they have it as you never asked for removal, they will not provide it.

Now as you already stated above regarding GDPR how come you got the bets results? Is this enough to disprove all your statements? Did duckdice.io now committed suicide?

Of Provable Fairness due to Losing Streak
The spreadsheet given to me was not like the previous attempt made in collaboration with Khaled0111 where the list shows the longest losing streak in under or over. The spreadsheet that is in my possession, however, is basically the betting history of the player itself, his winning and his losing. 0 and 1. A yes and a no. A win and a lose.

With about thousands of entries that made my eyes water just to scan them, not only that the statement of playing in 15.5% chance is unfounded as the bets were made with 33% chance, the more important point that I think is better to be pointed out rather than the 33% v. 15.5% is that I can not find a losing streak of 158 times. Not even a 50 losing streak in a row.

With this, I believe I can safely say that the claim of 158 losing streak at 15.5% is unproven to be true.

Remember those are all your statements not mine, don’t you call it false anymore, Instead address it why you changed it




Now let’s see what you have stated earlier-and for what you were going to be a bridge

And oh, perhaps give your consent for FJ DuckDice to share your email? To prove or disprove their rebuttal about similar email address with the scammer? If you feel uncomfortable with your account being publicly disclosed, I'd like to offer an option where they send it to me, for-my-eyes-only basis, and I'll reproduce a screenshot of that proof they have me, with several characters of the email being censored. I'll give my best to find a balance where it's enough to maintain privacy yet also prove [or disprove] the similarities.

I will leave you in no state to call it false again

Kirito89, I've got a written consent through PM from OP to validate the situation of similar email account. It came with several terms, but after mulling over it the entire day, I think the best approach is to actually leave both parties in the blind, so, simplified, kindly provide me [through PM, not here publicly] the evidence of those email similarities, and I'll take it from there, if you don't mind.

Regarding the Agreement don’t forget it’s still there on the thread- Ummm  I will quote it here to let you know what the agreement was based on actually

Anyway lets come to the proofs point.

Kirirto89 you have to show your evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you was blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. You have provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.


We are at the point where Kirito89 gotta back his accusations. I’ve accepted your deal, gave consent already Now the ball’s in his court.[/b][/color]

I hope you will Understand now that what we were agreed on is not covered-actually none of them, you didn’t act as bridge, the evidence you claimed you have is all from me, I was the one who posted it 3 months earlier in this forum to disprove Kirito89 accusations




Now your tricky question

Let me ask again, since you seemingly keep avoiding it, so we can get it clear: A fair offer for what, if I may ask? I thought all you seek is transparency? A clarification of DuckDice Provable Fairness. So, what offer is that?
Please help us all understand that before you start with your new argument. Though I am not sure what else to argue, since the provable fairness and transparency issue is already cleared.

Why I asked for my loses back? What was the “Fair offer”?

This is what the fair offer was based on : https://imgur.com/a/8wSxYM9  . You already tried your best to make me look like a scammer.

There is no new arguments, the new arguments are coming from you and kirito89, Posted above are the evidences of your narrative changes.

When you are going to ask kirito89 for the proof of his accusations? Even thought it was supposed to be done earlier but……

[holydarkness]

I am snipping the rest of your post as they're a false narrative. Addressing the point above as well as explaining [yet again] of what happened:

They are not false at all, the post I posted is all your statements and Kirito89 statements, how you can call it false?  You have violated your own rules, there wasn’t any new agreement at all.

This is an excuse that you can’t share the evidences- Still you are making conclusion base on it, You don’t have any evidences at all.

I am failed to see the connection between my inability to share the evidence due to my capacity as a third party that has no right to the data sharing, with the ability to make a conclusion based on the said evidence, that I've seen with my eyes.

You have abandon many of your statements time to time just to defend duckdice.io, Here are few that you abandoned already:

You Stated earlier that there is no data on earth which can show the details of my bets. And if duckdice.io provide one its mean they are cheating and it will a suicide situation for duckdice.io

[...]

Now as you already stated above regarding GDPR how come you got the bets results? Is this enough to disprove all your statements? Did duckdice.io now committed suicide?

Marble indeed. Marble indeed.

It's been explained, I believe more than once. If you're truly looking for transparency, you'll read every post carefully and won't miss this explanation, so I am not sure why you still failed to understand that part.

Initially, there were not any possible way to retrieve your betting history, until you gave the screenshot of your betID, that can be used to "replicate" [not sure if "replicate" is the right term here] your betting session. As done by khaleed, and you later add more info that made the compiled data unusable.

Later though, as can be witnessed from the date-stamp of my post that I snipped from your post so it won't be a tangle of pyramid-quote, months later, DuckDice realized that the betID did not just enable them to replicate the betting session. Upon being matched with their internal data, of which has no name and ownership as the player who used to own the data has enacted the rights to be forgotten, a simple series of number, it enabled them to get the server seed, the data that is theirs; the server's, as in DuckDice's.

The server seed itself was previously impossible to be fished out and be associated with you, since it has no ties to any player, they're nameless data stored in their RAM or SSD, or whatever storage they use. But with your provided betID, that still took DuckDice months to realize that it also serves such purpose, it was made possible: to enable them to identify to whom did the server's seed used to be assigned to.

The data is basically still nameless, a series of bets made by an unknown. But, again, thanks to your betID, they can tie it to you, as the server's seed and the series of seeds that follows or preceeded it matched the server seed in your betID.

Is it still hard to be understood?

[...]
Now let’s see what you have stated earlier-and for what you were going to be a bridge

[...]

I will leave you in no state to call it false again

[...]

I'll deliberately leave my quoted post still kinda quoted this time, just to show the timestamp. That's kinda the beauty of the forum, isn't it? All is timestamped, properly well documented without much effort.

If it's hard for you to understand, let me spell it out: as can be seen, it was quotes from December 2024 and January 2025, those whole convoluted entanglement of accusations from both sides that was ultimately impossible to unravel, the red bar of steel, the whole proof me wrong and prove me being the sender, etc etc etc. of which, later, in 26th February, I offered to metaphorically forget everything, to start a clean sheet and leave those unravelable things behind and get to the root of everything that you insist is your true goal: the provable fairness and the transparency, of which, I asked you both to enter a new agreement and consent

[...]
But, let's cross all of them. Frankly, I got exhausted by you and your antique. So let's metaphorically forget everything for a minute, let's start a whole new page, [...]

Timestamp, date, pay very close attention to it, because it is indeed very beautiful and useful to explain things to you and show the overseers what chronologically happened. And especially useful to thwart your attempt to mess with the timeline as shown below. Again, pay attention to the date and timestamp:

Regarding the Agreement don’t forget it’s still there on the thread- Ummm  I will quote it here to let you know what the agreement was based on actually

This is a repeated quote of what's already quoted above, sans the content as it's just to show the timestamp where I offered you both and asked for the consents for the newest attempt to get things resolved and proven, 26th of February, 2025:

[...]

This is you and your words upon agreeing and giving your consent, 4th of March, 2025:

[...]
I am going to trust holydarkness for something that I am sure of, and let’s see what come out.

@holydarkness you have my consent.

This is DuckDice through Kirito89 entering the agreement with their terms as well as their consent, on March 5th, 2025, 10:44:09

Hi there, I agree with this . Will send you all relevant information.   1. Showing OP has lied about his bets, 2. Emails from him asking for money.

Kirito89,

Duckdice Support.

Those "terms" you said is yours, was not the clause of the term you wrote upon giving your consent, it was added later on, by 5th of March 2025, 09:57:29, with no agreement or even acknowledgement from anybody.

You agreed to trust me to be the third party who will review evidences that DuckDice will give, that I will be on neutral ground and conveyed what I see. If which I did, and DuckDice did, and you did not. Again, the "clause" you added later by 5th of March, was not in the agreement, though I am sure Kirito89 still addressed the matter somewhere.

I hope you understand now that what we were agreed on is completely covered. All of them. In details. You asked about the transparency and fairness, DuckDice provided a betting log that got reconstructed from the server seed extracted from one's betID, I verified that there were not any 158 losing streak. Not even 20, if we rely on the data being processed by the AI when I asked to summarize the longest win/lose streak.

With this proven, the case should be enough to be cleared and marked as resolved.

I hope you will Understand now that what we were agreed on is not covered-actually none of them, you didn’t act as bridge, the evidence you claimed you have is all from me, I was the one who posted it 3 months earlier in this forum to disprove Kirito89 accusations

Nope, what I see was thousands of entries of betting log of someone. Did you provide that to the forum three months earlier?

Now your tricky question
[...]
Why I asked for my loses back? What was the “Fair offer”?

This is what the fair offer was based on : https://imgur.com/a/8wSxYM9  . You already tried your best to make me look like a scammer.

Still doesn't explain how threads which aim is to look for transparency and prove the provable fairness of DuckDice contain a "fair offer" for DuckDice to pay you. Mind to explain it again? Because that two, I think, can't coexist. They're an either-or. Either you're looking for transparency [which you emphasized several times that transparency is your priority, and that you do not want DuckDice to pay anyone a single penny, that you stand by that] or asking for funds as "fair offer".

While we're at it, how does the fair offer come, again? From someone who stand by the word that they don't want DuckDice to pay a single penny?

There is no new arguments, the new arguments are coming from you and kirito89, Posted above are the evidences of your narrative changes.

When you are going to ask kirito89 for the proof of his accusations? Even thought it was supposed to be done earlier but……

Nope, the arguments come from you, when you backed down from your own word that you gave upon your consent, that binds you both on the new agreement. Always from you, we're here just tying the loose end that you failed to understand, repetitively explaining the points that you'll yet again failed to understand, as you choose not to, because if you admit that you understand the findings and the situation, you'll admit that the case can be closed now, since the transparency and the provable fairness is proven: there were not any 158 losing streak.

[Horsbyname]

Yes marble-Ofc Marble why? Because you are blindly defending Duckdice.io now ruined your reputation and showed how honest you are at all, Maybe you are acting like a blind but as you said the time stamp is the beauty of this forum. Here when I posted the bet ID and when you have made the stamen
This is when I actually posted my bet ID

a bet ID that I shared with a friend after wining a bet : https://imgur.com/a/Z852R43 I am confident I never requested deletion.

This is when you made the statement that there is no data on earth which can help to find the result of the bets

DuckDice wrote all of your information. Your name, DoB, address, other KYC related things, your deposit and withdrawal history, your betting log, your bonuses, your chat, your complaints, your email, every single thing tha happened to a "horsbyname" during his stay in DuckDice.

So, the book burned.

If they can provide it, it means the data was not erased and their statement that your data is no longer exist is false, thus, a lie, and logically they will not say this as it'll be a reputation-suicide. Thus, even if they have it as you never asked for removal, they will not provide it.

Now you are dropping it when it’s time to apply it

Initially, there were not any possible way to retrieve your betting history, until you gave the screenshot of your betID, that can be used to "replicate" [not sure if "replicate" is the right term here] your betting session. As done by khaleed, and you later add more info that made the compiled data unusable.

You are blindly supporting duckdice.io for sure.


Why you completely ignored to ask kirito89 if his accusations is true or false? If true did he provide any proof? you are completely ignoring it

Kirito89 Out here accusing me of sending them blackmail emails sometimes with trustpilot reviews sometimes with wining chances and when it time to provide evidence he will dodge it.
My intent’s clear- I want proof that my bets were not manipulated, But they won’t show any result, any data until its in favor of Duckdice, Instead they just more figure pointing.


Anyway lets come to the proofs point.

Kirirto89 you have to show your evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you was blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. You have provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.

This is what I gave consent for to you and you was knew it but you completely drop it and sticked to something that is not proved and no one can see if you are honest or not.

You were supposed to check all those points but you only sticked to one which also not cleared at all.


Do you still remember the story, why I said to Duckdice.io not to pay anyone a single penny ?

[holydarkness]

Yes marble-Ofc Marble why? Because you are blindly defending Duckdice.io now ruined your reputation and showed how honest you are at all,

In your head? Yeah, maybe. But in other people heads? They can understand well of what transpires, what you're trying to pull here, and so on.

For the sake of clarity, though, I'll try to help you understand one last time. After that, you're on your own. So, please pay a real attention to this one below, as this will very likely be my last response to this thread as I am sure everything has been explained suffieciently and if you still failed to grasp it. Well, you're on your own. But hey, at least the marbles are not alone.

It'll be rather short, so it'll rather easy to follow.

Maybe you are acting like a blind but as you said the time stamp is the beauty of this forum. Here when I posted the bet ID and when you have made the stamen
This is when I actually posted my bet ID

a bet ID that I shared with a friend after wining a bet : https://imgur.com/a/Z852R43 I am confident I never requested deletion.

This is when you made the statement that there is no data on earth which can help to find the result of the bets

DuckDice wrote all of your information. Your name, DoB, address, other KYC related things, your deposit and withdrawal history, your betting log, your bonuses, your chat, your complaints, your email, every single thing tha happened to a "horsbyname" during his stay in DuckDice.

So, the book burned.

If they can provide it, it means the data was not erased and their statement that your data is no longer exist is false, thus, a lie, and logically they will not say this as it'll be a reputation-suicide. Thus, even if they have it as you never asked for removal, they will not provide it.

Now you are dropping it when it’s time to apply it

Initially, there were not any possible way to retrieve your betting history, until you gave the screenshot of your betID, that can be used to "replicate" [not sure if "replicate" is the right term here] your betting session. As done by khaleed, and you later add more info that made the compiled data unusable.

If you bother to quote just a bit below what's snipped from post on 18th March above... the explanation is there. No data of yours is retrievable, anything associated with you has been burned. The screenshot of your betID though, contain an information [that took DuckDice even months to realize that it can be used that way] that allow DuckDice to associate the betID with strings of nameless and owner-less data, a bunch of numbers of server's seed stored at their system with the owner of it, who had it burned.

I am very sure that is not hard to understand. I even think that someone who stumbled upon that post of mine without much context of the previous discussion can easily grasp the gist of the situation. Unless that's the exact reason why you snip my post right at that point?

You are blindly supporting duckdice.io for sure.

Why you completely ignored to ask kirito89 if his accusations is true or false? If true did he provide any proof? you are completely ignoring it

I am not. He did, as per agreed on his clause of agreement upon entering it, be verified by me.

Kirito89 Out here accusing me of sending them blackmail emails sometimes with trustpilot reviews sometimes with wining chances and when it time to provide evidence he will dodge it.
My intent’s clear- I want proof that my bets were not manipulated, But they won’t show any result, any data until its in favor of Duckdice, Instead they just more figure pointing.

Anyway lets come to the proofs point.

Kirirto89 you have to show your evidences of me Sending blackmailing emails for 0.01btc
2. Trustpilot link- that my review was posted from the same email you was blackmailed from for 0.01 btc.
3. That I didn’t played on 15.5% chances but 33% chances.
4. You have provide evidences that the blackmailing email you have received is from the same email similar to mine but different with one later.

This is what I gave consent for to you and you was knew it but you completely drop it and sticked to something that is not proved and no one can see if you are honest or not.

It was not. I've proved it, there were not a 158 losing streak on the data he provided to my eyes. And they won't need to show you as you've given your consent, your agreement, that I'll be the third pair of eyes who verify, that you'll believe in my findings.

You were supposed to check all those points but you only sticked to one which also not cleared at all.

I was not. That is not the clause of agreement you put when you entered it. Kirito89 still personally addressed the matter to the public, though. Did you miss it?

Do you still remember the story, why I said to Duckdice.io not to pay anyone a single penny ?

I do. Perfectly. Yet here you are, documented to be asking for a subjectively large amount of fund, not just a single penny, despite the claim that transparency is your priority, not compensation and you never asked DuckDice to demand money or bonuses.

Those above said. I believe everything here has been made clear. The findings had been given. The overseers here had seen and read what they need to see and read to pull their conclusion. They are all free with each of their own interpretation of it. My duty here to verify the data and conveyed what are they about though, is done.

My last advice, if I may: drop the charade, they've seen the truth. You call though.

I'll take my leave.

[JollyGood]

I believe you have taken his posts, words and comments out of context.

My initial feeling was that maybe you did it deliberately but when I thought about it, I realised it might be out of frustration. I understand you claim you had 158 consecutive losses (that amounted to you losing 0.37 BTC) and I understand you are convinced DuckDice are a scam.

If you genuinely believe you were mistreated by DuckDice and you have a case against them then do something about it. The forum member Paper Wallet took FortuneJack to court in Curacao and won the case against them when he claimed they scammed him. Why are you not doing something similar if you believe you were scammed?

You will not get much support here based on the information you have provided therefore what are you going to do other than continuously posting here out of frustration?

If you read the Thread I wrote there that Holydarkness Coaching casinos in private and ask them what to post and when to post, and now holydarkness by mistake spited

[Horsbyname]

I believe you have taken his posts, words and comments out of context.

Can you please mark one? which one of them is out of context?


I have contacted their License provider many times and got no response from them, Duckdice.io is in the CC to that email as well. It was an open agreement to which points we were agreed, Also their his statements are still visible, but he completely dropped them for the sake of Duckdice.io. He know that Duckdice.io representative Accused me without a single proof, they changed their statements multiple times.

[Horsbyname]

Please support my flag against Duckdice.io represintiative Kirit089 for accusing and blackmailing me.
Flag Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2912800;page=iflags