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December 04, 2024, 06:43:31 AM
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Decentralised Huh

There is nothing really decentralised in crypto space anymore after Bitcoin, others are just sharing the name part of decentralisation to lure people who favours decentralisation, it is a mind trick.

One day, they are decentralised and the other, they go back to centralisation, wait till regulations bounce on them, you really can't run a casino in a decentralised manner, for how long? If you are doubting that I am wrong then go on running the casino, you will be hit hard one day.

The more the casino gets popular the higher probability that regulators will bounce on you.
Regulation isn’t going to stop anyone. BC.game just moved out of the UK and they may lose their Curacao license on Friday. It’s not going to stop them. They just get a license elsewhere. The rumor is they may get one in Vanuatu. I don’t know about casinos but DeFi sportsbooks are here to stay. It’s not a trick. It’s anonymous gambling.
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December 04, 2024, 08:10:48 AM
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Nothing changes because decentralized and centralized casinos are different. Those who want to play gamble should know where they want to gamble. If they don't like to do KYC, they can choose decentralized casinos but need to know that the government can ask them to do KYC in the future. The government will not stop just to ask centralized casinos to be under their regulation and the government can also ask that to decentralized casinos. The governments and regulations will adapt to the current situation so they can change their regulations too.

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December 04, 2024, 09:29:05 AM
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If a casino is licensed it can never be decentralised, been decentralized means operation out of the centralized authorities' control, getting your casino on book and asking permission to run in peace breaked the decentralised part, that's the fact, if you don't want to accept this it is your problem.

Bitcoin is decentralised, it needs nothing from the authority to do its thing, no regulation, no permission, no control from centralised, this make it the true decentralised crypto coin.

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December 04, 2024, 12:56:59 PM
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If you have crypto in a centralized casino, KYC can be done at any time. If you have crypto at a decentralized casino tied up in smart contracts, no one can do KYC because no one knows your identity.

People are getting too caught up in definitions. Just know that there are differences between centralized and decentralized casinos.
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December 04, 2024, 01:18:19 PM
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Decentalized casinos are yet to gain as much popularity as centralized casinos in the mainstream. They have their target audience and are not focused on the main stream. While we see Stake and other online casinos advertise or sponsor sports teams, we have yet to see any decentralized casino make such an advertisement or sponsorship. If this is not correct kindly point me to the advert.

Both centralized and decentralized casinos are going to exist together and I don't think one will overshadow the other. They will be popular among the different target populations.


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December 04, 2024, 04:04:37 PM
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Are you sure that this gambling site is decentralized? All web3 gambling sites still have means to have complete control over your money if you connect your wallet.
I didn’t quite understand what you mean. Are you referring to the smart contract? As far as I know, this is the only one with a verified and public smart contract. If you know of others, please let me know, or point me/us in the right direction to find them.

Am I the only one who find this thread as a shilling thread? The Op might be genuinely interested in this topic but still I find it weird that’s they’ll choose a random casino (which as not being mentioned once in this forum) to include in the post.

It’s the first one I’ve seen with Real-Time Metrics for Every Game (If there have been games played on that game.), and I’ve never encountered anything like this before. Usually, casinos just show the RTP, and you have no idea what factors it’s based on.. you just have to take their word for it. Here, however, the data provided to players about the games is actually generated by other players. (That said, I don’t really think it can be classified as a casino in the traditional sense.)

It seemed like a good example, different from most of what’s out there, to spark a discussion. I’m sorry if some find it strange that this is my first post, I only recently discovered this space. I genuinely think it’s a great place for conversations like this. (At least I’m glad that the topic seems to be interesting..)

And even though I share some of the concerns you’ve expressed, I still think it’s really cool to see an attempt to do something different.

If you know of other projects like this, I’d love to hear about them, as some of you seem much more experienced than I am  Grin

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December 04, 2024, 06:23:41 PM
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After my experience, I’m left with a few intriguing questions:

  • What will happen to centralized casinos if platforms like DeBets become the norm?
  • Will this radical transparency force even big-name casinos to rethink their strategies?
  • How will global governments and regulations respond to a system that’s entirely anonymous and decentralized?
  • Are we ready for a world where trust isn’t based on a brand, but on immutable blockchain code?

What do you think, guys?

For the other centralized big and reputable casinos, they already have thousands of customers and on a daily basis those customers are using and generating profits for themselves and those their customers have also performed their KYC which I don't think that there is any so much enticing service that will make customers leave the old casino that they are more experienced with. If it's some minor features, then the centralized exchange will implement it too. The government love complete transparency, so they will never be comfortable with it, we can see that some high rated mixers has been banned, do you know what will be banned next if they cross the line?

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December 04, 2024, 07:18:24 PM
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If a casino is licensed it can never be decentralised, been decentralized means operation out of the centralized authorities' control, getting your casino on book and asking permission to run in peace breaked the decentralised part, that's the fact, if you don't want to accept this it is your problem.

Bitcoin is decentralised, it needs nothing from the authority to do its thing, no regulation, no permission, no control from centralised, this make it the true decentralised crypto coin.

You're right, if a casino is licensed, it cannot be decentralized, because such is already under the regulation of the governing bodies that monitors the affairs of the sector it belongs, for now, we may not really say that things are about to change like that, since the entire crypto networks are not the same, same as we have it with the gambling platforms, we cannot have all centralized as well as being decentralized.

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December 04, 2024, 07:46:42 PM
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Decentralised Huh

There is nothing really decentralised in crypto space anymore after Bitcoin, others are just sharing the name part of decentralisation to lure people who favours decentralisation, it is a mind trick.

One day, they are decentralised and the other, they go back to centralisation, wait till regulations bounce on them, you really can't run a casino in a decentralised manner, for how long? If you are doubting that I am wrong then go on running the casino, you will be hit hard one day.

The more the casino gets popular the higher probability that regulators will bounce on you.
Regulation isn’t going to stop anyone. BC.game just moved out of the UK and they may lose their Curacao license on Friday. It’s not going to stop them. They just get a license elsewhere. The rumor is they may get one in Vanuatu. I don’t know about casinos but DeFi sportsbooks are here to stay. It’s not a trick. It’s anonymous gambling.

The harsh reality is that KYC is here to stay, just think about the following: in the real world all physical casinos ask people to show ID to confirm that they are over 18 years old. So why wouldn't governments force online casinos to do the same thing? In the real world, governments force physical casinos to have a license, so why wouldn't they force online casinos to also have a license? It is inevitable that all casinos will become KYC mandatory.

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People have been saying for years that KYC is inevitable. KYC isn’t necessary because you can’t ban code in many jurisdictions including the US. There are court cases on it. Casinos want centralization so that they can track you. If Bitcoin is decentralized then smart contracts are decentralized. That’s what is meant by decentralized casinos.
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I’m sorry if some find it strange that this is my first post, I only recently discovered this space. I genuinely think it’s a great place for conversations like this. (At least I’m glad that the topic seems to be interesting..)

And even though I share some of the concerns you’ve expressed, I still think it’s really cool to see an attempt to do something different.

Well, the reason I brought this up was because we have seen so many newbie accounts come to the forum in disguise of them asking questions but in reality they just want to put out their project to the forum and most of them never come back tot the forum but the fact that you returned and actually read through the threads and comments here shows that you are indeed interested in the topic.

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If you know of other projects like this, I’d love to hear about them, as some of you seem much more experienced than I am  Grin

I’ve actually not done much study on this so called “decentralized casino” all I know or have seen are just a bunch of random sites claiming my to be no-KYC and also adopts the idea of decentralization but I’ve never actually used them to see if that’s true or not so I really don’t have any site to mention.

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December 05, 2024, 12:45:30 AM
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I’m sorry if some find it strange that this is my first post, I only recently discovered this space. I genuinely think it’s a great place for conversations like this. (At least I’m glad that the topic seems to be interesting..)

And even though I share some of the concerns you’ve expressed, I still think it’s really cool to see an attempt to do something different.

Well, the reason I brought this up was because we have seen so many newbie accounts come to the forum in disguise of them asking questions but in reality they just want to put out their project to the forum and most of them never come back tot the forum but the fact that you returned and actually read through the threads and comments here shows that you are indeed interested in the topic.

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If you know of other projects like this, I’d love to hear about them, as some of you seem much more experienced than I am  Grin

I’ve actually not done much study on this so called “decentralized casino” all I know or have seen are just a bunch of random sites claiming my to be no-KYC and also adopts the idea of decentralization but I’ve never actually used them to see if that’s true or not so I really don’t have any site to mention.
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Bitcoin-Betting.com , Sportsbook that I trust.
Betswirl.com , Sportsbook and Casino but I don't know if they are trustworthy or not.
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Decentralised Huh

There is nothing really decentralised in crypto space anymore after Bitcoin, others are just sharing the name part of decentralisation to lure people who favours decentralisation, it is a mind trick.

One day, they are decentralised and the other, they go back to centralisation, wait till regulations bounce on them, you really can't run a casino in a decentralised manner, for how long? If you are doubting that I am wrong then go on running the casino, you will be hit hard one day.

The more the casino gets popular the higher probability that regulators will bounce on you.
Regulation isn’t going to stop anyone. BC.game just moved out of the UK and they may lose their Curacao license on Friday. It’s not going to stop them. They just get a license elsewhere. The rumor is they may get one in Vanuatu. I don’t know about casinos but DeFi sportsbooks are here to stay. It’s not a trick. It’s anonymous gambling.

The harsh reality is that KYC is here to stay, just think about the following: in the real world all physical casinos ask people to show ID to confirm that they are over 18 years old. So why wouldn't governments force online casinos to do the same thing? In the real world, governments force physical casinos to have a license, so why wouldn't they force online casinos to also have a license? It is inevitable that all casinos will become KYC mandatory.

You’re absolutely right, the selective application of KYC by online casinos is a glaring contradiction, and it’s almost laughable how people often focus on KYC itself while ignoring much bigger issues, like platform transparency.

Take, for example, how many casinos conveniently skip KYC during registration or the first deposit but suddenly require it when it’s time to pay out winnings. This isn’t about protecting users.. it’s about protecting the platform. It creates an illusion of freedom and anonymity at first, but when push comes to shove, it exposes how little these platforms actually care about ethics or decentralization.

And let’s be real: the issue with minors isn’t tied to KYC alone. Think about how many countries ban the sale of alcohol or tobacco to minors, yet if you walk around major European cities, it’s clear those rules are often just for show. The same goes for online gambling. Even with mandatory KYC, minors find ways to bypass controls, especially when platforms advertise on Twitch or Kick.. places that predominantly attract younger audiences. If they were truly serious about keeping minors out, they wouldn’t be spending money on ads on those channels.

Ultimately, the real problem isn’t KYC but the lack of transparency and fairness on these platforms. There’s all this talk about user protection, but if a platform isn’t clear about its algorithms, win probabilities, or terms of use, KYC just becomes an excuse to centralize control and manage players for their own benefit.

So, instead of focusing on whether KYC is the issue, we should demand more clarity and transparency. Otherwise, we’ll just keep going in circles while platforms continue to serve their own interests under the guise of regulation..
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December 05, 2024, 04:02:13 AM
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Ultimately, the real problem isn’t KYC but the lack of transparency and fairness on these platforms. There’s all this talk about user protection, but if a platform isn’t clear about its algorithms, win probabilities, or terms of use, KYC just becomes an excuse to centralize control and manage players for their own benefit.
Isn't that argument quite common for people who don't like KYC to begin with? I agree that KYC can be weaponized easily if there's no transparency whatsoever. The problem is that I'm not sure how many people would move from centralized casinos just because they know their ToS is ambiguous, their KYC is problematic, etc unless there is ample evidence such as scam cases against them. There's no guarantee players will check the forum too, so I don't think the market will react as quickly as we hoped to provide more transparency etc.

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Recently, I dove into DeBets.io, a decentralized gambling platform. As someone passionate about both technology and online gaming, I was curious to check it out..

After spending a few hours (and making a few crypto wagers), I was impressed, but I also found myself pondering some interesting questions about the future of the industry.

First Impressions: A New Level of Freedom
The first thing that struck me about DeBets was the simplicity. No forms to fill out, no registrations, no KYC. I connected my crypto wallet and, in seconds, I was ready to play. This "plug-and-play" experience made me wonder: Is this the future of online casinos? A world without bureaucratic hurdles?

Knowing that my funds were always under my control was another pleasant surprise. It made me think: Why have we become so accustomed to handing over our money to traditional casinos, when a platform like DeBets shows we can manage it ourselves securely?

Playing Against Providers: A Game-Changer
Another standout feature of DeBets is the ability to play directly against game providers. Each deposit is tied to a specific provider, meaning I could choose who I wanted to "challenge." This is a stark contrast to traditional casinos, where everything gets pooled into a central pot managed by the house.

I noticed that some providers had high scores, thanks to transparent metrics like fast payouts, a wide selection of Provably Fair games, and solid reputations. Others, with lower scores, seemed less reliable.
Shouldn't this level of transparency be the industry standard? And if it were, how many traditional casinos could actually keep up?

Real-Time Metrics: A Revelation
DeBets also offers real-time data for every game. I could see betting volume, hit frequency, and even the payback percentage. It felt like having a financial analysis tool for gambling.

For instance, in one slot game, I saw that the hit frequency was high, but the payouts were smaller. Meanwhile, another game offered less frequent wins but potentially much larger payouts.
With this level of detail, I couldn’t help but wonder: Could this kind of transparency completely change how we make decisions in online casinos?

After my experience, I’m left with a few intriguing questions:

  • What will happen to centralized casinos if platforms like DeBets become the norm?
  • Will this radical transparency force even big-name casinos to rethink their strategies?
  • How will global governments and regulations respond to a system that’s entirely anonymous and decentralized?
  • Are we ready for a world where trust isn’t based on a brand, but on immutable blockchain code?

What do you think, guys?



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December 05, 2024, 05:21:10 AM
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What do you think, guys?
Good observation you have there. What is constant in life is "change," regardless of the situation now, if care is not taken, you will see an entirely different picture in the coming years. The complaints of people on privacy and the fear of casinos/sportsbooks cheating them brought about the decentralised casino and I tell you, my experience with it has been nice too. But it is still at the beginning stage, many people have not known it too and the issue of blockchain fees and a few others are still making people sceptical.

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You know, in fact, in this era, casinos have really evolved a lot because of the technology we have today, there was the internet and then there was also online casinos and it only became rampant when the pandemic ended though it started during the pandemic.

That's why even gamblers who didn't gamble before have also evolved because those who couldn't go to physical casinos can also play casino games via online casinos.

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After my experience, I’m left with a few intriguing questions:

  • What will happen to centralized casinos if platforms like DeBets become the norm?
  • Will this radical transparency force even big-name casinos to rethink their strategies?
  • How will global governments and regulations respond to a system that’s entirely anonymous and decentralized?
  • Are we ready for a world where trust isn’t based on a brand, but on immutable blockchain code?

What do you think, guys?

To me it seems this post /OP is rather an undisclosed advertisement for such casino, because you are only talking wonders of it and how alledgedly decentrized it seems to be, without showing any apparent drawbacks, anyways, assuming you are being sincere with your questions this is what I have to say...
The world of gambling on the internet as we know it is still pretty far from taking a step which could be translated into a permanent change in how casinos operate and the level of transparency they have when facing costumers. People believed that with the development of smart contracts applied to gambling traditional casinos were going to disappear, since the trust was not longer necessary, in reality what happened was people not having enough trust in the new Web3 gambling applications and have stuck to traditional centralized casinos, because of their reliability and their proven track record.

I am not saying it would be impossible to change the state of this industry and make it even better for gamblers, but would require something even more ground breaking than we have already seen.

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As the world continues to evolve, so do the demands and preferences of players. With a global market valued at billions of dollars, there is huge potential for crypto casinos to revolutionize the gambling industry. Their decentralization and relative transparency offer a unique gaming experience and cost-effective solutions for casino operators.
Since crypto casino launched, that change the gambling industry where people at that time can try and moves to crypto casino. They don't have to use their fiat money but they can use crypto and enjoy the different experiences. When covid-19 attack the world, that gives more chances for crypto casino to grow since many people can not go out and visit their favorite casino. They moves to the online casino and found crypto casino and use crypto casino to playing gambling. And now, with the popularity of crypto growing fast, that change the gambling industry and the world of crypto casino as many gamblers now have more options to playing gambling. Those gamblers have a new experiences playing gambling in crypto casino and the best thing is they can playing gambling in anywhere they want using their devices.

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My first impression after reading your post is that you are on a mission to promote the casino on this forum in a unique way which most shills use by trying to make it sound too natural but plugging the name of the platform or project so that the readers get curious and engage with it. However, I will respond regardless of my first impression.

Web3 or decentralized platforms could be the future of online industries, especially gambling and cryptocurrency-related services such as exchanges, however, they have their advantages and disadvantages. The very first disadvantage that I can think of is that a lot of platforms are going to use this opportunity to scam their customers by gaining access to their wallets when they connect them with their platform, and don't even think it isn't possible.

Another thing is that regulatory bodies wouldn't make it easy for platform to grow and expand in the long run because they would require them to acquire licenses and operate under them by having KYC as a mandatory requirement.

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