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December 23, 2024, 01:04:44 AM
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When we are talking about any occupation we must to remember about professional deformation. It doesn`t matter if it is your job or gambling, if you spend lots of time you get some problems connected with it. Gambling makes you feel bright emotions. As the result you pass it to the others. When you win - it is positive. And when you lose - it is hate, anger, something negative. I can recommend sport - it helps us to move our negative emotions to positive occupation.
Oh yes, you nailed it friend, and what you just explained simply depicts that gambling is never a true reflection of anyone's personality but can rather influence it both positively or negatively. It can be positive if the gambler just won and it can be negative if the gambler just lost. Above all, let us limit the way we allow gambling to affect our being and emotions, it's not worth it. Risking little with discipline and very good management can make that happen.

Wow that's the point, because actually regardless of the personality of a gambler, in the end it still depends on the results of the gambling, as you said the point is when they win then it must be very fun and they will feel something positive, but when they lose then yes of course there will be at least a negative response, in my opinion the majority of gamblers are definitely like that regardless of their personality and character, and as you said that the most important thing here is how we can avoid the negative atmosphere when we lose so that it does not affect our mental and psychological, and of course the answer is there is no other way than to treat it with an approach that is full of limitations, hmm I think I should say that fun gambling is when we are able to enjoy the results of winning (stopping at the right time) and also when losing is not a problem for us, that is the context of gambling for real entertainment in my opinion.
We cant say that outcome reactions will be able to reflect out into the personality we do have as a person on which those are just that normal reactions to have on which we know that on the moment that we do play up gambling then there's always that chance or tendency that neither we will really be that happy or sad basing up on the outcome of the gambling session that we are into. This isnt basically that shows that a persons behavior or personality because it could be neither happy or sad. Speaking about being greedy or aggressive or whatsoever then just like been said that these are just that normal reactions on which this one doesnt reflect out our personality and thats why its really that important that you do really know at least on what you are dealing so that reactions wont really be too much. If you do really accept that gambling could give out some loses and winnings then reactions wont really that too evident since you had already expecting on what are the things that would gonna happen. Therefore, we can be able to say that not those reactions will be the basis on what kind of person you are because we do just simply play up gambling and made out reactions basing up on the outcome or the results that you've been experiencing into. It could really be just that positive or negative and on the time that you do make out adjustments then it will really be that up to you whether you can move on or not.
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December 23, 2024, 07:05:44 AM
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Not professional but professional deformation. It not only for professional players. It is about common gamblers who spend too much time in gambling too. If i make 1-2 bets per month - i don`t feel some serious emotions mostly. Lose? ok. Win? ok again. Big win? wow!
But when in the gambling several hours per day, you feel it much brighter. And in such situation you can lose control on your emotions and behavior.
OK, I understand. However, when enter the character of gambling for an hour or two, can say you are addicted. which results in an ups and downs mindset due to the effects of gambling. anger is easily provoked and very sensitive in crowded places because the mind is confused by addiction and communication will be difficult because the mind is haunted by the money that has been lost and wants it back.
Exactly! It is rather difficult to understand that you become gambling addict. It looks like some annoyance from losing but later it becomes an anger. And if the gambler is very emotional he becomes anger faster than others. The best way not to play but it can be a problem, so the second way is to find some emotional occupation. In such a way it would be more difficult to find emotions for everything.
It could be said that the character disease of gamblers is quite dangerous if you cannot control it, the growth of this character is very dangerous at some point. for example, they can work to prioritize betting without thinking about future burdens that will have bad consequences because it is very certain. The destruction of time, togetherness, communication is a big loss because good time is wasted betting
It is so. I`m not professional doctor to say how it works, but i think that some gamblers has predisposition for becoming gambling addicts. But they need to visit a doctor to understand it. Very small percent of addicts ready to agree that they have some problems. And they don`t ready to hear someone else. And the problems can be serious as you say. First we see - losing money and time. After it gambler loses health, family, friends.

But the same time i want to say that the main part of the gamblers don`t have such problems, so we mustn`t restrict other gamblers because someone can get problems.

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December 23, 2024, 10:42:53 AM
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Yeah fully agree with you, the mindset of wanting to get rich quick is one of the common means that initiate gambling addiction, at first some folks don't usually have that mindset before until they encounter a certain stuff that triggered it , like a post via social medias because some people are fan of showcasing their winnings just to get folks to join their group.

One thing for sure is that such mindset ain't encouraging when it comes to gambling, because that mindset usually increase the chances of getting themselves reckt or getting addicted.

Those tempting winning contents tend to be the purpose why most new players turn gamblers. Even, when you go through the comments, the users there don't say anything encouraging partaining to being responsible. They all mention or hail the winnings posted on the page, hoping that their turn will be around anytime soon. Which isn't a nice environment for naive people.

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December 23, 2024, 12:14:33 PM
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Yeah fully agree with you, the mindset of wanting to get rich quick is one of the common means that initiate gambling addiction, at first some folks don't usually have that mindset before until they encounter a certain stuff that triggered it , like a post via social medias because some people are fan of showcasing their winnings just to get folks to join their group.

One thing for sure is that such mindset ain't encouraging when it comes to gambling, because that mindset usually increase the chances of getting themselves reckt or getting addicted.

Those tempting winning contents tend to be the purpose why most new players turn gamblers. Even, when you go through the comments, the users there don't say anything encouraging partaining to being responsible. They all mention or hail the winnings posted on the page, hoping that their turn will be around anytime soon. Which isn't a nice environment for naive people.
You would really be that tempted to see or check up gambling on the moment that you've seen someone on playing gambling and able to win up something big. Temptation will really be there specially if you arent that good when it comes to controlling up your emotions because on the time that you will be that seeing those things around then you will be having a hard time on making up some recovery. Getting addicted is very common among gamblers but reflecting out with someones personality then i dont really believe that much because if you are that having some issues when it comes to control then its up to someones approach.
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December 23, 2024, 12:40:13 PM
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Yeah fully agree with you, the mindset of wanting to get rich quick is one of the common means that initiate gambling addiction, at first some folks don't usually have that mindset before until they encounter a certain stuff that triggered it , like a post via social medias because some people are fan of showcasing their winnings just to get folks to join their group.

One thing for sure is that such mindset ain't encouraging when it comes to gambling, because that mindset usually increase the chances of getting themselves reckt or getting addicted.

Those tempting winning contents tend to be the purpose why most new players turn gamblers. Even, when you go through the comments, the users there don't say anything encouraging partaining to being responsible. They all mention or hail the winnings posted on the page, hoping that their turn will be around anytime soon. Which isn't a nice environment for naive people.
You would really be that tempted to see or check up gambling on the moment that you've seen someone on playing gambling and able to win up something big. Temptation will really be there specially if you arent that good when it comes to controlling up your emotions because on the time that you will be that seeing those things around then you will be having a hard time on making up some recovery. Getting addicted is very common among gamblers but reflecting out with someones personality then i dont really believe that much because if you are that having some issues when it comes to control then its up to someones approach.
In fact, those who have low emotional control can easily be tempted to gamble when they see a big win, and at some point they will also fall into gambling addiction. There are many gamblers who have low emotional control, and they become emotional whenever they have a big win or loss.
When a gambler gets a good win, they become greedy, and they want to win even bigger, and they think that they will win in the next game, and they keep gambling with the greed of winning even bigger, and at some point they face losses greater than their gains.
Again, when they start losing, they start gambling on their emotions, as a result they face losses beyond their capacity.
The temptation to gamble is very deep, it depends on the main purpose of a gambler's gambling, if they gamble to make money, then somehow they will fall into gambling addiction, and at some point they will lose everything.
Therefore, if a gambler wants to stay away from bad influences, they must exercise self-control and awareness, and view gambling as just a means of entertainment.

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December 23, 2024, 01:10:33 PM
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You would really be that tempted to see or check up gambling on the moment that you've seen someone on playing gambling and able to win up something big. Temptation will really be there specially if you arent that good when it comes to controlling up your emotions because on the time that you will be that seeing those things around then you will be having a hard time on making up some recovery. Getting addicted is very common among gamblers but reflecting out with someones personality then i dont really believe that much because if you are that having some issues when it comes to control then its up to someones approach.
Discipline as a gambler is a big challenge because it's only when you are disciplined you will be able to control yourself not to fall for any of such things, some Gamblers actually the not to be moved by some of such but the pressure that comes with it some time is close to been irresistible, especially if it's a very close pal of yours who has been asking you to join and then not long after he won such huge amounts, you will be surely tempted to want to attempt if you could be the next lucky person.

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December 24, 2024, 04:41:19 AM
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Not professional but professional deformation. It not only for professional players. It is about common gamblers who spend too much time in gambling too. If i make 1-2 bets per month - i don`t feel some serious emotions mostly. Lose? ok. Win? ok again. Big win? wow!
But when in the gambling several hours per day, you feel it much brighter. And in such situation you can lose control on your emotions and behavior.
OK, I understand. However, when enter the character of gambling for an hour or two, can say you are addicted. which results in an ups and downs mindset due to the effects of gambling. anger is easily provoked and very sensitive in crowded places because the mind is confused by addiction and communication will be difficult because the mind is haunted by the money that has been lost and wants it back.
Exactly! It is rather difficult to understand that you become gambling addict. It looks like some annoyance from losing but later it becomes an anger. And if the gambler is very emotional he becomes anger faster than others. The best way not to play but it can be a problem, so the second way is to find some emotional occupation. In such a way it would be more difficult to find emotions for everything.
It could be said that the character disease of gamblers is quite dangerous if you cannot control it, the growth of this character is very dangerous at some point. for example, they can work to prioritize betting without thinking about future burdens that will have bad consequences because it is very certain. The destruction of time, togetherness, communication is a big loss because good time is wasted betting
It is so. I`m not professional doctor to say how it works, but i think that some gamblers has predisposition for becoming gambling addicts. But they need to visit a doctor to understand it. Very small percent of addicts ready to agree that they have some problems. And they don`t ready to hear someone else. And the problems can be serious as you say. First we see - losing money and time. After it gambler loses health, family, friends.

But the same time i want to say that the main part of the gamblers don`t have such problems, so we mustn`t restrict other gamblers because someone can get problems.
Of course I don't discourage gambling addicts. because it can be fatal because their minds are so affected that their gambling pleasure can become chaotic. I'm just waiting for them to get closer if they need a solution even though it's hard to get back to normal. because I have felt the position of those who don't want to repeat themselves excessively. Something bad is not a negative value if we can filter the experience and make it a presentation for other people
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December 24, 2024, 05:08:58 AM
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Those tempting winning contents tend to be the purpose why most new players turn gamblers. Even, when you go through the comments, the users there don't say anything encouraging partaining to being responsible. They all mention or hail the winnings posted on the page, hoping that their turn will be around anytime soon. Which isn't a nice environment for naive people.
No one wants to share their losses of course not only is that embarrassing to admit but many people tend to highlight only the really good results as more often than not it is all they can remember. When they win once, they will forget about the 9 other times they lost since they would feel like that one win has validated or justified all the losses that they have experienced and those losses are now irrelevant. Why I like this forum is that we are very transparent here and we talk about losses as something that is not to be ashamed of but just as something that inevitably comes with gambling. Unlike many other platforms that are even filled with sponsored content creators making posts that could be misleading to the wrong person.

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December 24, 2024, 05:27:45 AM
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You would really be that tempted to see or check up gambling on the moment that you've seen someone on playing gambling and able to win up something big. Temptation will really be there specially if you arent that good when it comes to controlling up your emotions because on the time that you will be that seeing those things around then you will be having a hard time on making up some recovery. Getting addicted is very common among gamblers but reflecting out with someones personality then i dont really believe that much because if you are that having some issues when it comes to control then its up to someones approach.
Discipline as a gambler is a big challenge because it's only when you are disciplined you will be able to control yourself not to fall for any of such things, some Gamblers actually the not to be moved by some of such but the pressure that comes with it some time is close to been irresistible, especially if it's a very close pal of yours who has been asking you to join and then not long after he won such huge amounts, you will be surely tempted to want to attempt if you could be the next lucky person.
It makes sense to say that discipline is a big challenge for most people who gamble, because discipline is still a problem that often occurs because there are quite a lot of people who gamble without discipline so that cases of challenges to the negative impacts of gambling never disappear, Actually they should have been able to apply discipline from the beginning because when they know gambling it seems they know that this is an activity that has quite a big risk.
We must be able to control ourselves in any situation, whether it's when gambling or just seeing friends who gamble, there are times when we can be tempted to gamble when we see our friends succeed in getting big wins, and this is a case that happens quite often too, but if there is good discipline we can prevent ourselves from being tempted by it.
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We must consider that gambling can interfere with any outcome whether we win or lose. So that is why we must be careful in gambling and always remember that we come to gambling to have fun. We will not want to see our personality change because of the outcome so we will take care of ourselves and always use limitations to prevent the bad things that can happen. Even if you are gambling occasionally, you will not get deeper in one session because you know how dangerous gambling is when you lose control so you will always be careful spend your money.
You don't want to see how your personality changes when gambling? Therefore, you shouldn't gamble at all. I remember myself. What I was like when I first started playing casino games. A few years later, I was practically unrecognizable. Not only my behavior and attitude toward others had changed too much, but also toward myself. I came to the conclusion that I was disgusting to myself, since I was losing almost all the money I had. I still feel some kind of pain when I remember that period of my life. How could I have taken such a wrong turn? Gambling had completely consumed me. I didn't even realize that my loved ones were worried about me. I advise you to approach this whole gambling process with great caution.

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fruktik, from you story your attitude and behavior to money have changed through time, not to gambling. Like you were gambling back then, the same continues, you continue gambling no matter what.

Remember how everyone talk about discipline, self-control, being confident, think before betting and hiding emotion, when they were talking about gambling. For me all that means something that is unchanged, or something hidden or not showing who gamblers really are. Gamblers in general like to stay in shadow and tell little about their gambling activity. All that cant be mean as a true reflection of personality. So for me no, gambling does not reflect the truth about gambler.

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Yeah fully agree with you, the mindset of wanting to get rich quick is one of the common means that initiate gambling addiction, at first some folks don't usually have that mindset before until they encounter a certain stuff that triggered it , like a post via social medias because some people are fan of showcasing their winnings just to get folks to join their group.

One thing for sure is that such mindset ain't encouraging when it comes to gambling, because that mindset usually increase the chances of getting themselves reckt or getting addicted.

Those tempting winning contents tend to be the purpose why most new players turn gamblers. Even, when you go through the comments, the users there don't say anything encouraging partaining to being responsible. They all mention or hail the winnings posted on the page, hoping that their turn will be around anytime soon. Which isn't a nice environment for naive people.

True, I think that is indeed the initial scenario of someone getting involved in gambling, especially in today's era with increasingly sophisticated technological developments where we can find everything easily and that makes most people prefer to spend most of their time accessing social media and indirectly that is what makes it easier for people to reach gambling promotion activities such as those carried out by streamers until they are finally exposed.

Basically it will be very difficult to refuse anything that looks tempting, especially when we talk about money, because everyone definitely likes money, but I think in the end it also depends on how you respond and deal with everything new, simply if for example from the start you can use your common sense correctly then it should not be easy for you to be tempted by everything that seems too easy to get.
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January 27, 2025, 11:26:07 AM
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A person's personality is basically different, even though many people say and advise about gambling, no matter how they interpret what they think is right, there are those who follow the flow of gambling healthily and there are also those who take the path of gambling full of risk hoping to get rich easily, so it all depends on each person's personality and the only one who can manage risk management is themselves, other people can only remind without being able to force someone to do the same thing.

Personal life affairs is not really supposed to be an agenda to not gamble and for people with low self esteem;will not be able to cope with themselves.Some gamblers are likely not bothered with their personality traits and character but just to make sure they fit in.Gambling and our personality differs from handling social pressure,interactions,self control and responsibility.I must say that either responsible gambling and irresponsible gambling practices have an overall influence over the person in question.

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January 27, 2025, 11:34:52 AM
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Those tempting winning contents tend to be the purpose why most new players turn gamblers. Even, when you go through the comments, the users there don't say anything encouraging partaining to being responsible. They all mention or hail the winnings posted on the page, hoping that their turn will be around anytime soon. Which isn't a nice environment for naive people.
No one wants to share their losses of course not only is that embarrassing to admit but many people tend to highlight only the really good results as more often than not it is all they can remember. When they win once, they will forget about the 9 other times they lost since they would feel like that one win has validated or justified all the losses that they have experienced and those losses are now irrelevant. Why I like this forum is that we are very transparent here and we talk about losses as something that is not to be ashamed of but just as something that inevitably comes with gambling. Unlike many other platforms that are even filled with sponsored content creators making posts that could be misleading to the wrong person.

Absolutely right, it works like this. Gamblers are so easily ready to forget about losses because a win for them immediately means many positive things: and that this is the beginning of a good income, and now there will only be victories ahead. Also, such lucky ones think that now luck has turned to face them, and they just need to continue playing and the money will become more and more and more. Although in 95 percent of cases, a new loss will follow, which will cause new negative emotions and disappointments in such a gambler.
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A person's personality is basically different, even though many people say and advise about gambling, no matter how they interpret what they think is right, there are those who follow the flow of gambling healthily and there are also those who take the path of gambling full of risk hoping to get rich easily, so it all depends on each person's personality and the only one who can manage risk management is themselves, other people can only remind without being able to force someone to do the same thing.

Personal life affairs is not really supposed to be an agenda to not gamble and for people with low self esteem;will not be able to cope with themselves.Some gamblers are likely not bothered with their personality traits and character but just to make sure they fit in.Gambling and our personality differs from handling social pressure,interactions,self control and responsibility.I must say that either responsible gambling and irresponsible gambling practices have an overall influence over the person in question.

When you are in gambling, most of the time, people won't know what you really are in real life especially if you are playing online. They have limitations on how they can gauge you as a person. Hence, knowing the personality of a person via his online gambling activities would be hard as you are not getting the whole picture of who he really is. So we should not really judge a person if we only have online interaction with them as they may be completely opposite in real life. There are so many poker faces even in real scenarios so I won't really dwell much on knowing the person's business when it comes to his gambling life.
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January 27, 2025, 02:52:46 PM
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Yeah fully agree with you, the mindset of wanting to get rich quick is one of the common means that initiate gambling addiction, at first some folks don't usually have that mindset before until they encounter a certain stuff that triggered it , like a post via social medias because some people are fan of showcasing their winnings just to get folks to join their group.

One thing for sure is that such mindset ain't encouraging when it comes to gambling, because that mindset usually increase the chances of getting themselves reckt or getting addicted.

Those tempting winning contents tend to be the purpose why most new players turn gamblers. Even, when you go through the comments, the users there don't say anything encouraging partaining to being responsible. They all mention or hail the winnings posted on the page, hoping that their turn will be around anytime soon. Which isn't a nice environment for naive people.
For people who have poor self-control, they will be easily tempted when they see a big win in front of their eyes, such as someone who does gambling with the aim of seeking profit but what happens is only defeat that accompanies it, and on the other hand, the environment around him is the same as his friends who like to gamble then there is one friend who gets a big win and when he finds out about this, his emotions can peak and what is done is to gamble blindly without thinking about the risk side which actually needs to be considered more. A person's approach to gambling is indeed decisive, because the closer they are to gambling, the more certain it is that the person will become addicted and it may be difficult to recover. In addition, in my opinion, gambling can train our patience and mentality, where if we can manage our patience, nothing bad will happen.
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January 27, 2025, 03:27:19 PM
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A person's personality is basically different, even though many people say and advise about gambling, no matter how they interpret what they think is right, there are those who follow the flow of gambling healthily and there are also those who take the path of gambling full of risk hoping to get rich easily, so it all depends on each person's personality and the only one who can manage risk management is themselves, other people can only remind without being able to force someone to do the same thing.

Personal life affairs is not really supposed to be an agenda to not gamble and for people with low self esteem;will not be able to cope with themselves.Some gamblers are likely not bothered with their personality traits and character but just to make sure they fit in.Gambling and our personality differs from handling social pressure,interactions,self control and responsibility.I must say that either responsible gambling and irresponsible gambling practices have an overall influence over the person in question.

When you are in gambling, most of the time, people won't know what you really are in real life especially if you are playing online. They have limitations on how they can gauge you as a person. Hence, knowing the personality of a person via his online gambling activities would be hard as you are not getting the whole picture of who he really is.

There are many people who can easily hide their personalities and of course gambling is not by far, there are gamblers who can just hide what inside them, they can play without showing any emotions, as they can quickly stop when they need though there are also gamblers who can't, and by the way they treating it some are being judge of other people who knows their gambling participations.
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A person's personality is basically different, even though many people say and advise about gambling, no matter how they interpret what they think is right, there are those who follow the flow of gambling healthily and there are also those who take the path of gambling full of risk hoping to get rich easily, so it all depends on each person's personality and the only one who can manage risk management is themselves, other people can only remind without being able to force someone to do the same thing.

Personal life affairs is not really supposed to be an agenda to not gamble and for people with low self esteem;will not be able to cope with themselves.Some gamblers are likely not bothered with their personality traits and character but just to make sure they fit in.Gambling and our personality differs from handling social pressure,interactions,self control and responsibility.I must say that either responsible gambling and irresponsible gambling practices have an overall influence over the person in question.

When you are in gambling, most of the time, people won't know what you really are in real life especially if you are playing online. They have limitations on how they can gauge you as a person. Hence, knowing the personality of a person via his online gambling activities would be hard as you are not getting the whole picture of who he really is.

So a time back I was watching a friend playing aviator on an online casino, so I saw a guy the way he was playing shows that he  had a lot of funds, and someone that don't usually play responsible and some one that would love spending alot, because the way the person was just staking large amount of money , as he lose he will increase his next stake , and the money he where using was a tangible amount, the lowest amount he was using was $300 so me and friend began to watch the way the guy plays, he usually run two stake at once using $300 each so he will cashout some and lose some so he continues like that then he won $1k i thought he would stop thinking he has made some nice amount despite the losses continues and he lose more than what he won , then he went again with a larger stake and won $3,500 . Then he stopped but after everything I noticed that the guy is a high risk taker and some one that's kinda greedy to some extent, because the way he was gambling that day was wild.

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Yeah fully agree with you, the mindset of wanting to get rich quick is one of the common means that initiate gambling addiction, at first some folks don't usually have that mindset before until they encounter a certain stuff that triggered it , like a post via social medias because some people are fan of showcasing their winnings just to get folks to join their group.

One thing for sure is that such mindset ain't encouraging when it comes to gambling, because that mindset usually increase the chances of getting themselves reckt or getting addicted.

Those tempting winning contents tend to be the purpose why most new players turn gamblers. Even, when you go through the comments, the users there don't say anything encouraging partaining to being responsible. They all mention or hail the winnings posted on the page, hoping that their turn will be around anytime soon. Which isn't a nice environment for naive people.
I guess we don’t have hold on that. Content creators who are being paid by casinos to advertise their games will definitely do their job in order to be compensated. Let’s not blame them why these players resort into gambling addiction. Blame the gamblers themselves why they enter gambling when they can’t even manage their emotions that will lead them to develop gambling addiction in the long run.

 
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January 27, 2025, 03:48:53 PM
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When you are in gambling, most of the time, people won't know what you really are in real life especially if you are playing online. They have limitations on how they can gauge you as a person. Hence, knowing the personality of a person via his online gambling activities would be hard as you are not getting the whole picture of who he really is.

So a time back I was watching a friend playing aviator on an online casino, so I saw a guy the way he was playing shows that he  had a lot of funds, and someone that don't usually play responsible and some one that would love spending alot, because the way the person was just staking large amount of money , as he lose he will increase his next stake , and the money he where using was a tangible amount, the lowest amount he was using was $300 so me and friend began to watch the way the guy plays, he usually run two stake at once using $300 each so he will cashout some and lose some so he continues like that then he won $1k i thought he would stop thinking he has made some nice amount despite the losses continues and he lose more than what he won , then he went again with a larger stake and won $3,500 . Then he stopped but after everything I noticed that the guy is a high risk taker and some one that's kinda greedy to some extent, because the way he was gambling that day was wild.

Maybe he is a regular high roller that needed to cash in really huge that day. Winning with such an amount always come big that's why he tried all within him to hit more wins. The losses always wouldn't equate the wins made in that session, the disadvantage is there, and the player most times go home sad, after losing.

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