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December 08, 2024, 12:14:58 PM
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I have shared with the community before how I stopped gambling and am currently healing from that addiction. However, recently I had an interesting experience with a friend who was just getting started with sports betting (football). He placed small bets on several football matches, and to his excitement he won 10 out of 11 in a combined bet. He was excited and waiting the final match, knowing it would bring him a huge gain. I supported him telling him he would win and he even promised to give me 10% of his earnings if he won that combined bet with around @1400 odds in total.

The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.

What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?

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December 08, 2024, 12:25:16 PM
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There are some who won’t honor their promises, but the majority of gamblers do. As gamblers, we’re people willing to take risks, and most of us value our word. So, IMO, it’s only right to give someone what they’re owed if you’ve made a promise as being honest is important.

Of course, greed can sometimes get in the way, especially when it comes to money. If 10% is a significant amount, some might feel reluctant to give it to someone who didn’t even risk a single centavo. But that’s just how it is, every gambler has a different mindset and attitude. You just have to accept it, because at the end of the day, it’s not really a gambler’s obligation to give you that 10%.
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December 08, 2024, 12:37:24 PM
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I don't take seriously the promise of anyone made to me when they are extremely happy, angry or sad. At that point they are not thinking straight their only being emotional and not logical. So it is with the gambler who you are just describe in your story. You shouldn't take it personal and you should just forget about it. Your friend is experiencing the thrills which you once did. But in my estimation, this is not even about your friend but you. You recovering from gambling addiction, you should stay away from triggers if not you risk relapsing which is worse because it will take you a while to become sober again.

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December 08, 2024, 12:46:25 PM
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It's not just gambling alone; what you said is true. When someone is excited, they can make huge promises to anyone. In this life, we should just learn not to put interest in the promises of someone if not we will get disappointed. What you can do is not say a word to him about the money, just let everything be and be his friend as usual.

If your friend had lost in his bet. You will notice he would stick to you for you to show compassion for him. Funny enough money won in gambling does not last forever, he will spend it all someday and then come back to you.

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December 08, 2024, 12:51:54 PM
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is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?

If you are really that in concern on giving him some advice and wont really be having plans on meeting him up, then the best thing you can do is to text or message him whether on your phone
or social media accounts. Pretty much sure that he's really that trying out to avoid you because he's afraid that you would sue him out about on that 10% winnings that he promised but since you
dont care much about it then its better to approach him. It will really be just that a waste of friendship if it would really be ending up on that way.

It is really that indeed true that people would really be changing up on the moment that they will really be able to make some huge wins in gambling and its pretty normal that urge and boost up will
really be that something that pushes you to play even more. The main thing that comes up into your mind is that if you do able to win up earlier then you would be able to do it on next time.
It is really just that a shame that there are individuals who do waste up their friendship because of money.

There are indeed times that you will really be trying out to avoid someone because you dont like on giving on what you do ow or promise on which this simply shows on how greedy you are
on where it comes into a point that you are ready to forget your friend just for money.

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December 08, 2024, 12:52:51 PM
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What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
This change of attitude after winning or getting some money is not only related to gambling. It happens even in business and other ventures. You will hear people saying if I get the payment from this job or contract, I will give your an amount for maybe your support or hard work. Immediately they get the money, they will change and fail to fulfill their promises. They will begin to calculate what they need to acquire with money and at the end they will feel that what they have won is not enough for them talkless of giving out to someone else. They will come again with another promise after failing to fulfill the past once. It's just basically connected to lack of contentment and integrity.

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December 08, 2024, 01:02:51 PM
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is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
your friend should see what happened to you and make you finally decide to stop gambling activities. from what your friend showed, it is very likely that your friend will experience addiction. he will have the desire to double his money again and start betting more. if you still have the opportunity to advise him, then do it. if he can not be advised, then let him feel it himself. how it feels to lose more and will be frustrated.

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December 08, 2024, 01:03:43 PM
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The player after winning went through all he could do with the money, including gambling, and found out it wasn't enough. That was why he failed to check up on you. Assuming you reminded him immediately while he was excited, I don't think your friend wouldn't have kept his promise.

However, you are right, he's in the box of thought that wants more wins. Not losses, he knows the requirements if he meets you again for help, and wouldn't be fine giving you money which may be a loss to him. It's fine you clarify things with the gamer regarding how less you're interested in the fulfilment of his promise.

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December 08, 2024, 01:15:25 PM
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If I were you, I will ask the 10% share because he promised that before, if he don't want to give it, then I will know if he's not someone who can be my partner. Ask it without any pressure, act like you don't really care with the money and take it easy.

My suggestion, never expect anything from human, if you help someone or someone promise something to you, don't expect they will help you back or they will fulfill their promise. Do it for God, without expect anything.

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December 08, 2024, 01:17:25 PM
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I have shared with the community before how I stopped gambling and am currently healing from that addiction. However, recently I had an interesting experience with a friend who was just getting started with sports betting (football). He placed small bets on several football matches, and to his excitement he won 10 out of 11 in a combined bet. He was excited and waiting the final match, knowing it would bring him a huge gain. I supported him telling him he would win and he even promised to give me 10% of his earnings if he won that combined bet with around @1400 odds in total.
You are a lucky person, every day you find yourself in a new story. I am starting to envy you because of my boring life. Smiley

The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.
Friends stop being friends because of smaller promises. So don't worry about it.

What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
Gambling fuels people's greed very strongly and few manage to overcome this vice.

It seems to me that he is no longer your friend and hardly deserves your advice. I would say he is not worthy of it from you.

Forget about the intention to talk to him, forget about his promise, forget about him. For he himself will remember you when he loses his "last pants". The winning streak is not endless.

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December 08, 2024, 01:26:59 PM
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I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
i am so sure that he only said that because of the excitement he was having at that moment and likely, he didn't know or mean what he said by agreeing to give you 10% of the money if the game comes to an end in his Favour. since you guys are friends, there is no point trying to take things too personal because if you follow him up that way he is likely going, he might feel that you are feeling too entitled and that's going to make you feel bad. if you are able to, you can just call him and tell him that he should forget about the money and subsequently, you can just tell him to be careful the way he makes decision when he is excited about things. some people have made promises they cannot fulfil because they were just excited. this is not just related to gamblingalone, generally, when you are angry or excitted, its best you dont talk much or else you end up saying what you cant stand to defend when the emotion goes all down.

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December 08, 2024, 01:29:49 PM
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If I were you, I will ask the 10% share because he promised that before, if he don't want to give it, then I will know if he's not someone who can be my partner. Ask it without any pressure, act like you don't really care with the money and take it easy.

My suggestion, never expect anything from human, if you help someone or someone promise something to you, don't expect they will help you back or they will fulfill their promise. Do it for God, without expect anything.
Better not to force him out and since OP wasnt really that go after for that 10% then there's no something that his friend would be acting that way. People do really love on breaking up some promise due on being greedy with money and just like on what others been saying that if we do talk about money then there are really those people who do instantly changed up or on point even if it means that they will really be staying away with their friend .
People are really that different when it comes to their behavior on which there are ones who do give out importance about their relationship with others even if it talks about money but there are ones who are really that willing to sacrifice it out as long they are the ones who are benefiting or advantage then they will really be doing it. So it will really be just that basing up on someones actions when it comes into this aspect.
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What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?
It's tough to trust some gamblers since only a tiny percentage of what they say actually holds true, especially when it comes to money. Usually, it goes like this - before they win, they can control themselves, but once they hit that jackpot, their mindset shifts completely. Greed kicks in, and that's the real reason we see them getting hooked on gambling.

Most gamblers start small, but over time, their money grows, and so do their spending habits. Whether we admit it or not, we all go through this before we realize our mistakes. And whatever you see, OP, in your friend, chances are, you've been there too.

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Idk, before judging, it'd probably be best to confirm why he didn't honor his word? Heck, it was also just a verbal promise and you didn't contribute anything at all really, so I reckon assuming you have a "claim" on the winnings is just overextending yourself.

I also don't see any reason why you should breach the subject if he chooses to ignore it. There could be multiple reasons but I reckon you can just ask subtly if he has money problems. If yes, then that's probably where the money went and no reason to continue the conversation. If no, then he doesn't want to share and again, the conversation ends.

If you want to broach about gambling responsibilities and whatnot, usually much more effective when they're in the middle or at the end. Yapping about it at the start often ends up just like that, yapping, in their ears.
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Honestly, I think that players should not be trusted in what they tell about their winnings, because they often want to seem more successful players to other players, as if in fact they were losing more in gambling than they won, but they told their friends that they were successful in gambling and could earn money from it. Maybe I perceive it this way because I myself cannot achieve anything outstanding in gambling and I lose more than I win, so it seems to me that for most players this is how it happens.

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December 08, 2024, 02:06:56 PM
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That is normal if gamblers change after they win so we should not have any bad feeling with them. Even if he promise to gives some of his winning to us but he doesn't keep his promise, that will not be a problem for us. We will know how his act when he win the money to us or other people.

We don't have to talk to him or give advices because that can makes him feels bad to us. Maybe that can makes him will not want to meet us anymore. So let him like that and we don't have to talk much to him.

If he is really good friend, he will feels something change with us and will come to us. At that time, we can suggest him with a joke that he should keep his promise if he say about promise.

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December 08, 2024, 02:09:26 PM
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I have shared with the community before how I stopped gambling and am currently healing from that addiction. However, recently I had an interesting experience with a friend who was just getting started with sports betting (football). He placed small bets on several football matches, and to his excitement he won 10 out of 11 in a combined bet. He was excited and waiting the final match, knowing it would bring him a huge gain. I supported him telling him he would win and he even promised to give me 10% of his earnings if he won that combined bet with around @1400 odds in total.

The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.

What I took away from this experience is how the mentality of gamblers can change after a win. The thrill of success often leaves us wanting more and in this case it seemed like my friend was caught in that cycle, as I was feeling before too and he was unable to honor his word probably because he wanted to keep increasing his gains and bet more. It's a reminder that the brain is never truly satisfied when gambling, there's always the desire for more. I believe that friend deserves an advice, but I don’t want to embarrass him myself, is there a good way to talk to him without making him feel that Im indirectly asking him for the money he promised me?

There are really people like that, where they will make a promise that in the end they will not keep, maybe in their mind it seems like they were just shocked by what they said or maybe they only said it because they thought that they were not sure they would win, it could be like that.

But if you reminded them of what they said to you, I think they could keep what they said because of course it would be embarrassing and you could think that you might think that they didn't have a single word so they would still keep their promise to you, though it might not be genuine in their heart, it could also be that if you reminded them, they could still give you but not 10% and they could give you an alibi that they didn't give you 10%, it seems like they were just trying to trick you somehow.

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December 08, 2024, 02:09:42 PM
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It’s our mentality that needs to change. I say this because if we rely on tips from others’ wins, we’ll never learn to develop our own path. We should be man enough not to depend on donations or promises from others. Instead, we should focus on building our own gambling strategies so that, in the end, we can be profitable on our own.

In my case, if someone promises me something if they win, I don’t put much hope into it. That way, I won’t get hurt if they don’t deliver. If they give something, great, if not, that’s fine too. I’m the kind of gambler who doesn’t rely on others much.

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December 08, 2024, 02:11:53 PM
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The match ended with a win and we were both happy. Personally, I wasn't concerned about receiving any money from him as I was more focused on my recovery to not set a bet or deposit ever again. However, the next day my friend avoided me and didn't follow through on his promise even though I wouldn’t have minded if he didn’t.

Some things were easier said than done, that is why we should not be quick to making valein promises, because we don't know if the condition involved could be adaptive by us again at the cause of time, human minds also change with time, we should not let over excitement took over our emotions till we begin to make vain promises, though as you have said, that your mind isn't there, if he gives you're fine and if he doesn't, you're still looking better, because you don't depend on him, we should learn from this, not until we are ready to give, we shouldn't promise other people anything.

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December 08, 2024, 02:17:16 PM
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I wouldn't say it's the thrill that caused.
Yeah it made him make the promise, we do alot of things when we happy
But keeping to promises is another thing entirely.
There are individuals who stick to their words and principles
Unfortunately he isn't one of said individuals at least now you have learnt something that promises doesn't mean much to him.


Give him sometime and maybe talk about football to toggle his memory and if he doesn't come through
You can advice him on the impact of broken promises to trust.

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