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December 13, 2024, 12:41:57 AM Last edit: December 29, 2024, 06:16:06 PM by BADecker |
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People have known that dogs talk for a long time. the thing that is finally being settled is that dogs actually mean what they say... that things that they say are not simply random. And, what is maybe the biggest thing that humans are finding out? That dogs don't really love their owners like they thought their dogs did. Dogs are just living life. Dogs TALK with humans using soundboards for first time... and it's what they DIDN'T say that's depressing https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14177583/Dogs-TALK-humans-using-soundboards-study.html?ico=article_preview_xp_mobileDogs are capable of forming two-word combinations when using a soundboard to communicate with humans, a groundbreaking study has found. In the last few years, thousands of dogs have been trained to use soundboards with buttons that can be pressed to produce human words or phrases. Some have even become social media sensations, like the TikTok famous sheepadoodle Bunny. But scientists still weren't sure whether these 'talking' dogs were pressing buttons randomly, or deliberately. Now, a new analysis has revealed that the dogs' behavior cannot be explained by random pressing, and that certain two-button combinations appear too often to be the result of random chance, the study states. The researchers found that the most commonly used buttons were related to the dogs' essential needs, such as 'outside,' 'treat,' 'play' and 'potty.' Combinations like 'outside' + 'potty' or 'food' + 'water' also occurred too frequently to be accidental, and were used in meaningful ways. What's more, the researchers identified differences between the dogs' button pressing behavior and that of their owners. For example, buttons like 'I love you' were pressed far less frequently by dogs than by their humans, suggesting that dogs are not imitating their owners' presses. This will be a blow to owners who believe the feelings of utter devotion are mutual. ...

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December 13, 2024, 08:48:40 AM |
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The dogs are very loyal to us, it's very cool.
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December 13, 2024, 10:06:42 AM |
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Even if it's just a dream, I like to think that dogs truly love their owners. Their unconditional affection is a reminder of the pure bond between humans and animals, and it’s something that brightens our lives every day.
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December 13, 2024, 05:25:35 PM |
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In my opinion, yes, dogs love their owner unconditionally, they are wonderful
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December 13, 2024, 07:38:26 PM |
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Or, dogs may simply be stupid. They know that their food comes from their master. And they are too stupid to realize that they could leave their master for better living conditions in many cases. The point? Dogs are loyal to themselves, and not to their masters. You can easily see this in the fact that almost any dog will accept a new master if the old master 'tells' him to. 
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December 13, 2024, 08:08:34 PM |
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Love will only be stronger with understanding of dogs and caring for their needs. Don't do what they hate, do what they love, and you will notice they are loving beings also. And they will easily love people who are compatible with their "personalities".
By the way, dogs usually love with conditions. Care comes first before love is reciprocated
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Love will only be stronger with understanding of dogs and caring for their needs. Don't do what they hate, do what they love, and you will notice they are loving beings also. And they will easily love people who are compatible with their "personalities".
By the way, dogs usually love with conditions. Care comes first before love is reciprocated
That's not love that dogs show. It's simply their method for finding out where their best success lies. Humans want love, so they imagine that dogs give them that love, because dogs are only 'acting' to get a doggie treat, or whatever else they need in life... and the humans fall for it. Almost like a religion for humans. 
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December 14, 2024, 12:32:16 AM |
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this topic is just badecker admitting his pet doesnt like HIM, so now he wants to pretend all pets hate their owners to pretend his situation is normal, rather than admit he neglects his pet in ways to make it hate him
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December 14, 2024, 12:36:20 AM |
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^^^ That's just franky1 showing his frustration over things that he is too stupid to understand. 
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December 14, 2024, 03:53:01 AM |
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^^^ That's just franky1 showing his frustration over things that he is too stupid to understand.  badeckers lack of experience of a happy pet being loyal and adoring, for badecker to need to seek out social media for answers, shows how he has never understood why other pet owners have good pets whilst his pet dislikes him maybe his pet hates him because he keeps causing his pet to get intestinal worms so he can take it to the vets each month to get a month supply of de-wormer which badecker takes daily instead of his pet, as a 'christian miracle supplement'
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December 14, 2024, 05:39:59 AM |
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^^^ That's just franky1 showing his frustration over things that he is too stupid to understand.  badeckers lack of experience of a happy pet being loyal and adoring, for badecker to need to seek out social media for answers, shows how he has never understood why other pet owners have good pets whilst his pet dislikes him maybe his pet hates him because he keeps causing his pet to get intestinal worms so he can take it to the vets each month to get a month supply of de-wormer which badecker takes daily instead of his pet, as a 'christian miracle supplement' It might be a shame that franky1 can't read the evidence in the OP. But maybe it isn't... a shame, I mean. 
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December 14, 2024, 07:01:06 AM |
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Well I do know my dogs does really love me. They are always so happy to see me when I do come home from work. And when I am going to take them on a walk and feed them their food.
I do think it is a good thing if we can have dogs talk to us humans. I would know if they do need to go out before a accident does happen. Or if he is is pain and something wrong with them.
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I think they do love. It may not be the sense of love that humans have, but it is love (in my opinion). When they cry because you are leaving, or when they go crazy when you arrive, to me that is love. In the same way they can feel fear or sadness. You only have to look at dogs that are or have been mistreated. Obviously you can't ask what they feel, but their actions show it...
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^^^ But the question is. are animal feelings only complex computer (brain) responses? Or do they somehow have emotions. The OP tests suggest that there is far less emotion than owners might think. 
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^^^ But the question is. are animal feelings only complex computer (brain) responses? Or do they somehow have emotions. The OP tests suggest that there is far less emotion than owners might think.  animals and humans have a range of emotions, and both have issues publicly displaying it EG most guys when sad, depressed or upset would still tell people 'im ok' but in both animals and humans, if you are observant enough you can tell, because you will notice a change in how much they vocalise and how much they sleep and how energetic they act in situations
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December 14, 2024, 07:27:43 PM |
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^^^ But the question is. are animal feelings only complex computer (brain) responses? Or do they somehow have emotions. The OP tests suggest that there is far less emotion than owners might think.  animals and humans have a range of emotions, and both have issues publicly displaying it EG most guys when sad, depressed or upset would still tell people 'im ok' but in both animals and humans, if you are observant enough you can tell, because you will notice a change in how much they vocalise and how much they sleep and how energetic they act in situations Yes, but. Is that the animal showing emotion? Or is it the owner interpreting animal logic as emotion? 
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^^^ But the question is. are animal feelings only complex computer (brain) responses? Or do they somehow have emotions. The OP tests suggest that there is far less emotion than owners might think.  But, in humans, feelings are not brain responses? every emotion is produced by a brain. The only difference between us and dogs is that we are aware of this emotion and are able to express it verbally. Do you think that a shrimp, a fish or a mosquito feel emotions? I don't think so. But I think a dog does have emotions, because it shows them quite clearly.
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^^^ But the question is. are animal feelings only complex computer (brain) responses? Or do they somehow have emotions. The OP tests suggest that there is far less emotion than owners might think.  But, in humans, feelings are not brain responses? every emotion is produced by a brain. The only difference between us and dogs is that we are aware of this emotion and are able to express it verbally. Do you think that a shrimp, a fish or a mosquito feel emotions? I don't think so. But I think a dog does have emotions, because it shows them quite clearly. Part of the point is that the human brain is far greater than the dog brain. The dog can only do complex math-like operations with its brain to recognize where its benefits come from. Total operation to get its daily needs fulfilled. Total show. And people are falling for it like flies in a bug spray. The tests in the site in the OP show this, even if the site doesn't state it simply and clearly. 
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December 16, 2024, 08:30:28 AM |
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Do dogs talk? What?
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December 17, 2024, 12:44:25 AM |
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Do dogs talk? What?
Tests over the years show that when dogs bark, they are often trying to mouth words that their mouths are not shaped to mouth. So, we don't understand them. The test in the OP shows how researchers got around this problem. 
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