Can this project be integrated with the BTC network?

[hypebrother]

Hello all,

I have had a plan to integrate important manuals or written manuscript into a blockchain network. In my last 14 years of research I have come across many instances where the master text were altered by their own followers for vested interests. The diagrams below is something I made in 2017, I also posted it in another section of this forum but there was no response. Apologies for my ignorance.

Basically, I want precious manuscripts to be made digital and make it integrate with a blockchain. Since BTC is king, I think there is a chance that I can integrate this project with BTC network. I am just one man, I have no team or anyone knowledgeable enough to ask for mentorship. Here is the diagrams for reference.

[hugeblack]

Yes you can add this data to Bitcoin blockchain but the problem will be the cost as you can add a few byte data payload to transactions using the OP_RETURN and pay a fee between $1 to $100, to add large media files the cost may be much higher by using Ordinal inscriptions^[1] but why do you want to spam the network with unnecessary data?

As I understood from this chart, SHA2 (256 and 512) hash is enough to do what you want and if you want to add it to the blockchain some altcoins like filecoin provide you with better and cheaper options.

[1] https://medium.com/@patrick99e99_18519/how-to-put-large-media-files-on-bitcoin-with-recursive-ordinal-inscriptions-4931ae22f71d

[ABCbits]

I also posted it in another section of this forum but there was no response. Apologies for my ignorance.

I saw your other thread (Shot in the Dark), but decided not to make response since you're being vague and i was assuming the image contain multiple illustration about Bitcoin technical detail.

Basically, I want precious manuscripts to be made digital and make it integrate with a blockchain.

If you want to store the manuscript itself, we already can use either OP_RETURN or Taproot witness data. If you want to store hash of manuscript with timestamp, we already can use https://opentimestamps.org/.

[hypebrother]

spam the network with unnecessary data?

~snip~

It is not necessarily unnecessary data. I am particularly talking about ancient manuscripts which belongs to certain traditions in India. As you may or may not be aware, there is a great deal of interpolation going on in the scanned and printed versions of these manuscripts. For example, calling women and service people as being born of a 'lower' stratum in society. Things like that. The original manuals of these texts does not say so. These manuscripts are hidden in their original form - written in leaf pamphlets. I am certain that they are not necessarily spam, because they hold a central place in the community, as it were.

Thank you for your response, I will search and study more on this.

I also posted it in another section of this forum but there was no response. Apologies for my ignorance.

I saw your other thread (Shot in the Dark), but decided not to make response since you're being vague and i was assuming the image contain multiple illustration about Bitcoin technical detail.

Basically, I want precious manuscripts to be made digital and make it integrate with a blockchain.

If you want to store the manuscript itself, we already can use either OP_RETURN or Taproot witness data. If you want to store hash of manuscript with timestamp, we already can use https://opentimestamps.org/.

Thank you for the tip. I used "Mastering Bitcoin - Andreas M." to understand the basics, the diagram I drew is inspired by that text. I will search the terms you mentioned in that, If you can suggest more resources it will be of great help.

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[OrdinalKing]

I think you can do it on blockchain network.
There are two possible ways to implement it.
- You can inscribe message on blockchain.
  Message information is saved on P2TR tapscript part.
- You can save data with OP_RETURN output (like runestone etc)

If you need to discuss more, please feel free to ask about it.
Thanks

[hypebrother]

I think you can do it on blockchain network.
There are two possible ways to implement it.
- You can inscribe message on blockchain.
  Message information is saved on P2TR tapscript part.
- You can save data with OP_RETURN output (like runestone etc)

If you need to discuss more, please feel free to ask about it.
Thanks

Thanks, can i dm you?

[amishmanish]

What you are looking for is a way to verify the authenticity of a document as well as make it alteration proof in a way that nobody can stake claim on it.

Inscribing on blockchain is overkill. Have you looked at other technologies than blockchain which are dedicated for this purpose.

There is almost nothing that can't be forged today. The attribution of documents for claiming originality of an idea has always been a tricky issue but most people, even the scientific community don't really care all that much about it. The final claim generally goes to whoever becomes popular first, rather than who comes up with the idea in the first place.

Why do you think would someone want this problem solved?

[hypebrother]

What you are looking for is a way to verify the authenticity of a document as well as make it alteration proof in a way that nobody can stake claim on it.

Inscribing on blockchain is overkill. Have you looked at other technologies than blockchain which are dedicated for this purpose.

There is almost nothing that can't be forged today. The attribution of documents for claiming originality of an idea has always been a tricky issue but most people, even the scientific community don't really care all that much about it. The final claim generally goes to whoever becomes popular first, rather than who comes up with the idea in the first place.

Why do you think would someone want this problem solved?

The germans translated 'varna' to caste instead of 'color' which originally means 'psychological type' in sanskrit, and look at the entire problem that has taken place in India. The Bhagavad Gita which once was worshipped as the essence of all Vedas became an idol worthy of condemnation. I have seen you in Indian subsection earlier, so you can relate better to this problem.

Other than blockchain I am familiar with ipfs. What would you suggest? is it a good option?

[ABCbits]

Other than blockchain I am familiar with ipfs. What would you suggest? is it a good option?

IPFS (along with BitTorrent) are good option, since it use hash to ensure you get intended data. But both of them depends some computer continue to host/seed the data. Also consider Internet Archive (https://archive.org/), which has been around for 28+ years.

[hypebrother]

Other than blockchain I am familiar with ipfs. What would you suggest? is it a good option?

IPFS (along with BitTorrent) are good option, since it use hash to ensure you get intended data. But both of them depends some computer continue to host/seed the data. Also consider Internet Archive (https://archive.org/), which has been around for 28+ years.

Thanks, some of the files are already up on archive.org. I wasn't talking about already printed or scanned pdfs. There are still pamphlet manuscripts which the authorities are hesitant to digitize due to the possibility of interpolation. I hope this thread can lead me somewhere. IPFS indeed seems a good option. I am trying to secure funds for the whole project, I will come back with another thread so that I can actually pay people for their expertise.

Have a good day!