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December 14, 2024, 04:22:32 PM
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Guys, I'm bored today again, so let's have some fun: a mini-puzzle for puzzle #130.
As you requested, this time it's a bit more challenging Smiley

Message: Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real
Signature: IIONt3uYHbMh+vUnqDBGHP2gGu1Q2Fw0WnsKj05eT9P8KI2kGgPniiPirCd5IeLRnRdxeiehDxxsyn/VujUaX8o=

There is about 700$ in BCH there, so hurry up!
And thanks to creator of original puzzles (Satoshi??) for a lot of fun!

PS. No BS here please, I will remove it.
PPS. For history, previous mini-puzzle is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5518896

I've solved #120, #125, #130. How: https://github.com/RetiredC
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December 14, 2024, 04:24:58 PM
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Guys, I'm bored today again, so let's have some fun: a mini-puzzle for puzzle #130.
As you requested, this time it's a bit more challenging Smiley

Message: Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real
Signature: IIONt3uYHbMh+vUnqDBGHP2gGu1Q2Fw0WnsKj05eT9P8KI2kGgPniiPirCd5IeLRnRdxeiehDxxsyn/VujUaX8o=

There is about 700$ in BCH there, so hurry up!
And thanks to creator of original puzzles (Satoshi??) for a lot of fun!

PS. No BS here please, I will remove it.
PPS. For history, previous mini-puzzle is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5518896

I'm on it, but maybe some hint?
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December 14, 2024, 04:25:47 PM
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Guys, I'm bored today again, so let's have some fun: a mini-puzzle for puzzle #130.
As you requested, this time it's a bit more challenging Smiley

Message: Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real
Signature: IIONt3uYHbMh+vUnqDBGHP2gGu1Q2Fw0WnsKj05eT9P8KI2kGgPniiPirCd5IeLRnRdxeiehDxxsyn/VujUaX8o=

There is about 700$ in BCH there, so hurry up!
And thanks to creator of original puzzles (Satoshi??) for a lot of fun!

PS. No BS here please, I will remove it.
PPS. For history, previous mini-puzzle is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5518896

I'm on it, but maybe some hint?


A hint is in the message Smiley

I've solved #120, #125, #130. How: https://github.com/RetiredC
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December 14, 2024, 04:31:23 PM
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Guys, I'm bored today again, so let's have some fun: a mini-puzzle for puzzle #130.
As you requested, this time it's a bit more challenging Smiley

Message: Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real
Signature: IIONt3uYHbMh+vUnqDBGHP2gGu1Q2Fw0WnsKj05eT9P8KI2kGgPniiPirCd5IeLRnRdxeiehDxxsyn/VujUaX8o=

There is about 700$ in BCH there, so hurry up!
And thanks to creator of original puzzles (Satoshi??) for a lot of fun!

PS. No BS here please, I will remove it.
PPS. For history, previous mini-puzzle is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5518896

I'm on it, but maybe some hint?


A hint is in the message Smiley

Okey I'll try to figure out?

Sadly this is the last minigame QAQ
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December 14, 2024, 06:06:50 PM
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Guys, I'm bored today again, so let's have some fun: a mini-puzzle for puzzle #130.
As you requested, this time it's a bit more challenging Smiley

Message: Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real
Signature: IIONt3uYHbMh+vUnqDBGHP2gGu1Q2Fw0WnsKj05eT9P8KI2kGgPniiPirCd5IeLRnRdxeiehDxxsyn/VujUaX8o=

There is about 700$ in BCH there, so hurry up!
And thanks to creator of original puzzles (Satoshi??) for a lot of fun!

PS. No BS here please, I will remove it.
PPS. For history, previous mini-puzzle is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5518896

It's 2 a.m. in my local time

But I only figure out one thing
This is not "a bit" harder then the previous one
Hope I can figure out or get some hint in my dream
Good luck for everyone!
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December 14, 2024, 06:25:09 PM
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I'm new to cryptography, just started playing ctf challenges and such about a year ago, so excuse me if this comes out a bit stupid    Grin

But from what I understood, the Signature is the message above signed with the wallet's private key. But isn't that just a way to prove that the private key corresponds to the publicly known private key? if so how is that different from bruteforcing the private key itself from the known keyspace?

Again, thanks for the challenge dude, and sry if this question came out a bit dumb xd
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December 14, 2024, 06:31:50 PM
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This is not "a bit" harder then the previous one

Yes, you should have some understanding of ECDSA signature vulnerabilities.

I'm new to cryptography, just started playing ctf challenges and such about a year ago, so excuse me if this comes out a bit stupid    Grin

But from what I understood, the Signature is the message above signed with the wallet's private key. But isn't that just a way to prove that the private key corresponds to the publicly known private key? if so how is that different from bruteforcing the private key itself from the known keyspace?

Again, thanks for the challenge dude, and sry if this question came out a bit dumb xd

Just google more (or use ChatGPT) to see how deep the rabbit hole goes  Grin

I've solved #120, #125, #130. How: https://github.com/RetiredC
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December 14, 2024, 07:17:31 PM
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https://explorer.coinex.com/bch/address/qz3yjg59ypg6jqpwhaxgvjj44jm4hdx0w5wsxw2qez
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December 14, 2024, 07:55:18 PM
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The signature's hex representation starts with 20 while every other signature I checked started with 30. Did the signature get processed through some function before being encoded to b64?
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December 14, 2024, 07:59:57 PM
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Guys, I'm bored today again, so let's have some fun: a mini-puzzle for puzzle #130.
As you requested, this time it's a bit more challenging Smiley

Message: Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real
Signature: IIONt3uYHbMh+vUnqDBGHP2gGu1Q2Fw0WnsKj05eT9P8KI2kGgPniiPirCd5IeLRnRdxeiehDxxsyn/VujUaX8o=

There is about 700$ in BCH there, so hurry up!
And thanks to creator of original puzzles (Satoshi??) for a lot of fun!

PS. No BS here please, I will remove it.
PPS. For history, previous mini-puzzle is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5518896

Hello, man. Well, I'll try my luck with this puzzle.
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December 14, 2024, 09:15:16 PM
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the length of the signature is also 65 bytes instead of 64. Is there a hint on the manipulation done on the signature before getting encoded (or is it in the message again xd)
The signature's hex representation starts with 20 while every other signature I checked started with 30. Did the signature get processed through some function before being encoded to b64?
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December 14, 2024, 09:35:04 PM
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The main vulnerability of signatures is the use of the same value of K, which gives the same value of r.
for the first message the values ​​of r and s were:
r 0xde97092bfb7c02148a827b4f8b62db1e189a739c77815799df5e6fb35ae88a1f
s 0x3f4fa38bcbb17615446fabc6fbebceefbb7d052eca9ce136b3a4a67b7f0d4f42
for the second message the values ​​of r and s were:
r 0x838db77b981db321faf527a830461cfda01aed50d85c345a7b0a8f4e5e4fd3fc
s 0x288da41a03e78a23e2ac277921e2d19d17717a27a10f1c6cca7fd5ba351a5fca
I don't see the same r values ​​here, maybe I'm being stupid.
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December 14, 2024, 10:02:43 PM
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Hi @Retired coder. Am new to this forum and just went through this bitcoin forum.Thanks for the puzzle and the hint given. I tried my luck for the first time found public key, private key and address of two wallets which seems odd to me after digging chat gpt rabbit hole. But tried the two wallets imported into electron cash wallet but found no or 0  Smiley$ BCH. Can you please confirm whether the puzzle is solved.
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December 14, 2024, 10:17:46 PM
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Hi @Retired coder. Am new to this forum and just went through this bitcoin forum.Thanks for the puzzle and the hint given. I tried my luck for the first time found public key, private key and address of two wallets which seems odd to me after digging chat gpt rabbit hole. But tried the two wallets imported into electron cash wallet but found no or 0  Smiley$ BCH. Can you please confirm whether the puzzle is solved.
The public is is already exposed, and if you're sure you've found the private key (which would be obvious because is has 126 0 at the end) you would've probably cached out by now  Huh
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December 14, 2024, 10:39:34 PM
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The main vulnerability of signatures is the use of the same value of K, which gives the same value of r.
for the first message the values ​​of r and s were:
r 0xde97092bfb7c02148a827b4f8b62db1e189a739c77815799df5e6fb35ae88a1f
s 0x3f4fa38bcbb17615446fabc6fbebceefbb7d052eca9ce136b3a4a67b7f0d4f42
for the second message the values ​​of r and s were:
r 0x838db77b981db321faf527a830461cfda01aed50d85c345a7b0a8f4e5e4fd3fc
s 0x288da41a03e78a23e2ac277921e2d19d17717a27a10f1c6cca7fd5ba351a5fca
I don't see the same r values ​​here, maybe I'm being stupid.

@Etar where did the first r and s come from? I didn't find the same values

Edit: nvm xd
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December 14, 2024, 10:50:53 PM
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yep just saw it
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December 15, 2024, 12:19:18 AM
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This would make xmas lol off to play
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December 15, 2024, 01:29:52 AM
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Guys, I'm bored today again, so let's have some fun: a mini-puzzle for puzzle #130.
As you requested, this time it's a bit more challenging Smiley

Message: Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real
Signature: IIONt3uYHbMh+vUnqDBGHP2gGu1Q2Fw0WnsKj05eT9P8KI2kGgPniiPirCd5IeLRnRdxeiehDxxsyn/VujUaX8o=

There is about 700$ in BCH there, so hurry up!
And thanks to creator of original puzzles (Satoshi??) for a lot of fun!

PS. No BS here please, I will remove it.
PPS. For history, previous mini-puzzle is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5518896



Now yes, I liked it, a difficult puzzle lol, don't give any more tips to this bunch of parasitic worms, no @
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December 15, 2024, 10:19:13 AM
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Guys, I'm bored today again, so let's have some fun: a mini-puzzle for puzzle #130.
As you requested, this time it's a bit more challenging Smiley

Message: Anything one man can imagine, other men can make real
Signature: IIONt3uYHbMh+vUnqDBGHP2gGu1Q2Fw0WnsKj05eT9P8KI2kGgPniiPirCd5IeLRnRdxeiehDxxsyn/VujUaX8o=

There is about 700$ in BCH there, so hurry up!
And thanks to creator of original puzzles (Satoshi??) for a lot of fun!

PS. No BS here please, I will remove it.
PPS. For history, previous mini-puzzle is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5518896



Now yes, I liked it, a difficult puzzle lol, don't give any more tips to this bunch of parasitic worms, no @
RetiredCoder

Based on your post history, you seem to be very passionate about calling people worms and straight up insulting them in general. You know it costs nothing to be positive?
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December 15, 2024, 11:03:09 AM
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Yes, you should have some understanding of ECDSA signature vulnerabilities.
2 most common vulnerabilities are repetitions of K for the same private key and weak K
We have only 2 signed messages and their signature r does not match, only the weak K remains.
I checked 02/03838db77b981db321faf527a830461cfda01aed50d85c345a7b0a8f4e5e4fd3fc in the 80-bit range it is not there.
sha256 from the message also does not reveal r, as well as double hashing.
The rabbit hole is too deep. I'm tired))
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