stake.com the most corrupt and manipulated casino

[rs200692]

http://http://[img][/img]1. we all know stake.com provably fair system is totally rigged for a given set of noce , there are multiple results which concur provably fair .

2. moreover they are undermining the bets placed so that you cannot level up .
i place 120k bets with a set of seeds , and they just show 71000 bets , totally scam to undermine your game play.http://

https://imgur.com/a/H7rWEKw
here you can see the stats show i have played 71200 bets.

https://imgur.com/a/ahlvdNf
here you can see my nonce above 120k





3. when you play mines , your screen auto refreshes and you start to loose.
4. they undermine your gameplay, so that you loose and no bonus must be given to you
5.and i posted this thing , on stakecommunity , thos narcissistic moderators flagged it as i have asked tips.


https://imgur.com/UfpYHAH

stop bullshitting stake.com

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Why is it always some Indian guys recently that complain like this in here?
Or are they all the same person?
Every time complaining about the provably fair stuff, bonuses and so on.
The stats you displayed mean nothing. You can have made high risk bets, or low risk bets to level up. These stats are honestly so irrelevant. When you look at my bets (I have 463000 bets and over 300000 wins) you would think I have a big profit, but in reality I am deep in the red.
Also, what would anybody see from you posting your nonce? I tell you what, nothing.

Only thing I agree on is the terrible mod service in the forum. They have some kind of hunger for power unfortunately and do as they please. But many mods do so, same with these clowns on BC.

[BitMaxz]

I'm sure this is another haters who lose a big amount.

Is not it obvious that any casino game is always favored by casino owners, even if you are lucky? That is why you should only gamble with money you can afford to lose, and you should go to the casino if you are looking for fun rather than profit.

[freedomgo]

Try to organize and improve the presentation of your scam accusation. Include all the necessary proof and adjust the flow of your statement so everyone can easily understand it. For casinos like Stake, they may have a solid reputation, but even they aren’t completely immune to scam accusations. In fact, it’s not just them, even other popular casinos here face similar claims.

[Charles-Tim]

I'm sure this is another haters who lose a big amount.

Is not it obvious that any casino game is always favored by casino owners, even if you are lucky? That is why you should only gamble with money you can afford to lose, and you should go to the casino if you are looking for fun rather than profit.

Some people will not accept this unless they have lost and lost and moved to other gambling sites to lose and lose again and again. I have used three gambling sites before which let me know that what can be called manipulation is not manipulation as I experienced it on the three gambling sites when I wae playing Roulette. A time you will continue to play and not hit the right numbers but continue to lose. People should understand that they can not win the house.

[SamReomo]

It's your right to join another casino and place bets at that other casino but it's not right to blame a casino for your losses. In provably fair system sometimes users lose more than they win but that doesn't mean that a casino's provably fair system is rigged. If you really don't trust a casino's provably fair system then you may go with sports betting as that's a good option I guess.

[holydarkness]

Let's see if I understand this correctly, your accusation is two pronged:

1. They didn't credit you with the correct amount of total bets, where you've wagered about 120,000 times and they only recorded 71,200?



I might be wrong as I am not on Stake, but isn't there an easier way to tell how many bets you've made so far? Like the betting log? Granted, they randomly archive bets to keep things neat and tidy, but perhaps that can give you a clearer picture of how many bets are actually registered?

2. And this is connected with the situation above, about bets being registerd. You mentioned about autorefresh that made you auto-lose. Maybe, that is the root of this case: bets that got somehow autorefreshed were voided. Your fund were not credited or debited. The games simply did not register. Can you perhaps check this and/or provide a proof of a session where it autorefresh and the game marked as a lost [with the fund being deducted]?

And, a more comprehensive and complete opening post will be much appreciated. I think there are so many missing screenshot from what you intended to serve?

[UmerIdrees]

It's your right to join another casino and place bets at that other casino but it's not right to blame a casino for your losses. In provably fair system sometimes users lose more than they win but that doesn't mean that a casino's provably fair system is rigged. If you really don't trust a casino's provably fair system then you may go with sports betting as that's a good option I guess.

Yes it seems that the OP is frustrated at this loss and trying to blame the casino that they are rigged. Also the way he has presented the information is not clear at all and one of the image link is broken too. He need to settle down and write a detailed post if he thinks that the casino is not right.

However Stake is one of the reputed casinos and a lot of gamblers trust it. I think OP is making a false accusation against them.

[ryzaadit]

1. Feel free to prove these, It's provably fair you need to prove by a system, math. Not based a word.

2. In stake you can bet with 0$. There has some possibility, the stats in your accounts only counted for the bets with some money (avoiding any bets with 0$ being included to your stats account). That's why, your seed bets bigger than your stats bets. You could be using a tactic with 0$ for bait bets, I also doing the same things. I tested right now making over 40-50 bets and 1 bets with 0.01$. My stats only raise 1 bets (I guess, the stats bets only counted for a bet with the money) not with 0$ bets.

3. It doesn't affect the outcome or result. When you start the bets, your outcome is already determined by the hash. I gave you an example for "MINES" work with simple information
- Start the bet
- RNG or Provably Fair will Generated Hash Number
- The number result will generated from number 1-25
- The mines is the number are not show up in the result hash



Exmple:
- I choose 3 mines
- Start the bet
- The result hash: 1,2,3,4,6,7,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,21,22,23,24,25

If you look in the result hash, the number are not being show up is number: 5,8,20. These mean, the bomb on the number box 5,8 and 20. Can't be manipulated, you can learn how mines work in here: https://provablefair.altervista.org/faucet-game/stake/mines/

4. No solid proofs, feel free to share (not just based speculation).

5. Can't comment, cause each forum have their own rules.

[Saint-loup]

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Don't you think it's a bit hard to refer a game as "provably fair" when payouts are not disclosed before you win them? How could you verify the house edge if the payout of each outcome is not available?
I've checked myself several outcomes for 3 mines hidden which is the default setting. And for example when I managed to find 7gems, I have been paid out 2.79x my stake(see picture below).

Probability of finding 7 gems in a row:
P_7gems = 22/25 × 21/24 × 20/23 × 19/22 × 18/21 × 17/20 × 16/19 = 4896/13800 (around 35%)
Return To Player for this outcome :
​4896/13800 x 2.79 = 0.9898

So the RTP is less than 0.99 (99%) actually, meaning the house edge is above 1% for this payout (1.02% precisely)
Players should know if they target this number of gems before cashing out they will lose more than 1% in the long run.
But I don't think a game not showing its payouts before playing(and winning moreover) could be certified anyway, even slots display a paytable.

[ryzaadit]

But I don't think a game not showing its payouts before playing(and winning moreover) could be certified anyway, even slots display a paytable.

Use a third service provider.

The things you are asking are for all-casino, cause in every mines game they never provided the chance percentage for next click (like HI-LO) or multiplier on how much you are gonna win by total gems you are successfully clicked. Some communities already shared these: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/28457-mines-multiplier-and-win-chance/ or just use third service provider like: https://www.smartgamblingedge.com/p/mines.html

Maybe you can watch these guy too: https://www.youtube.com/@imenjayy he using third parties to determined multiplier he want to choose on mines or dragon tower.

[Saint-loup]

But I don't think a game not showing its payouts before playing(and winning moreover) could be certified anyway, even slots display a paytable.

Use a third service provider.

The things you are asking are for all-casino, cause in every mines game they never provided the chance percentage for next click (like HI-LO) or multiplier on how much you are gonna win by total gems you are successfully clicked. Some communities already shared these: https://stakecommunity.com/topic/28457-mines-multiplier-and-win-chance/ or just use third service provider like: https://www.smartgamblingedge.com/p/mines.html

Maybe you can watch these guy too: https://www.youtube.com/@imenjayy he using third parties to determined multiplier he want to choose on mines or dragon tower.

It's not enough unfortunately, you can't just rely on the datas of a third service provider or of a random (banned on top of that) account. The game could have been modified and the third service provider or the forum post could be out of date. In addition I'm not sure the average player is aware of them. Besides that I didn't find the house edge of the different combinations in the links, meaning you have to make your own calculations to bet on outcomes giving 1.00% house edge as claimed by the casino.
This is the first time I've come across a game described as "provably fair" that does not provide its payoffs to be honest, I believe you when you say it's the same thing for other mines games at other casinos, but if it's true they are not "provably fair" either for me.

[ryzaadit]

you can't just rely on the datas of a third service provider or of a random (banned on top of that) account. The game could have been modified

Stakes never changed since the beginning, and "banned account" does not affect the data based on my perspective. Since I only described and explained in a simple way how the outcome is already being determined by the hash after we start the bet & the action we click doesn't matter cause the result is already pre-determined after we click the bet. IMO, the question you are asked is not just only for "Stake" but for all casinos especially while the house edge on MINES was 1% based on your calculation, especially on the grid 7 gems you are ask (open a new thread in Gambling Discussion, discuss on the topic you are asking & maybe there has someone are more experience join in the discussion). Since, I only described in simple way how the outcome is not effected at all even we leave or closed it since already being pre-determined for the mines.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

yawn

You invest so much time spamming this forum with thread after thread after thread. How about doing something useful with your time like getting a job or something. It's apparent you have too much time (and imagination). Maybe you can write a book or even a screenplay, that would be something.
If you did that maybe somebody would finally start caring about what's coming out of your head.

Saying good bye to the forum 20 times and still spamming every day, that's quite an accomplishment. I wonder what you are trying to achieve here but I am convinced it has something to do with recovering your losses any way possible, even through blackmail and other things if necessary. Kind of a last resort, am I right. 
At some point even you should start to realize that, your alt accounts in here aside, nobody cares what you have to say. It's tough to admit that, I know, but it's the unfortunate truth for you.
By the way, didn't you also cry over having your trustpilot review deleted and now that's it's up you are crying again? Dude, get a grip.

[SamReomo]

Yes it seems that the OP is frustrated at this loss and trying to blame the casino that they are rigged. Also the way he has presented the information is not clear at all and one of the image link is broken too.

Op hasn't posted after the initial post and we all know that the initial post was also not that good and it lack information. The is baseless blame and he can't prove anything. I know it's hard to forget about ones losses but in gambling losses do happen and anyone who gambles should understand that.

[Rating Place]

I been seeing many threads about stake in this scam accusations. Is stake reliable to play? Thinking of dumping Rollbit and joining stake. Does anyone have recommendation as a site for a big player?

Fortunejack, Cloudbet, Betcoin. For sports Bitcoin-Betting.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

I been seeing many threads about stake in this scam accusations. Is stake reliable to play? Thinking of dumping Rollbit and joining stake. Does anyone have recommendation as a site for a big player?

Stay away from Stake. If I had to recommend, I’d say Duelbits, but take that as just my two cents.

You know what I love about this forum? It never forgets and people like you get exposed day in and day out. So, you would advise him to play at duelbits, but you think stake is a scam company. Interesting. So I wonder, why did you post this 7 weeks ago?

I have provided enough proofs and evidence against each of them, stake and Duelbits are owned by the same parent company. If you are not aware of it, no point in talking with you, since big platforms means nothing they are big criminals who has a big pocket to pay peasants to suck thier dick.

I am looking forward for your excuse now, hahaha. Gotcha!!

[BabyBandit]

I been seeing many threads about stake in this scam accusations. Is stake reliable to play? Thinking of dumping Rollbit and joining stake. Does anyone have recommendation as a site for a big player?

I would say Stake is much safer then Rollbit if you bet big, Rollbit has much more accusations against them compared to Stake.
I only play sports betting and the bad thing is that Stake has pretty bad odds but I never had any issue there (at Stake).
Also IMO I think Stakes bonus program is so much better then Rollbits because you get weekly and monthly and don't risk to miss any bonus while at Rollbit its so complicated like you get daily, weekly and monthly so many times I missed to claim bonuses there also instead of get one good bonus you can get like $3 daily for weeks, its bothering and you will miss some payouts.
But this is only my personal experience and opinion and I cant speak for others.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

You know what I love about this forum? It never forgets and people like you get exposed day in and day out. So, you would advise him to play at duelbits, but you think stake is a scam company. Interesting. So I wonder, why did you post this 7 weeks ago?

I was under a false impression 7 weeks ago, as I had not thoroughly verified my issues with Duelbits. Later, I confirmed that Stake is operated by Medium Rare N.V. and Duelbits by Liquid Entertainment N.V.. Initially, I thought there might be a connection since both entities end with "N.V."—a common structure in Curaçao licensing. However, upon further investigation and after Duelbits provided their betting history, I realized they are not affiliated. Stake, on the other hand, refuses to share my betting data, which further raises questions about their transparency.

Stake operates mirror sites without proper licensing and hides behind multiple entities to mislead users, as shown by their fragmented licensing model across different jurisdictions. I admit my mistake in comparing Duelbits to Stake. Anyone who still draws such a comparison now, after my explanation, is either clueless or intentionally deceptive. For my misjudgment, I apologize publicly. I had to delete my posts, thank you for bringing to my attention, shows how jobless you are.

Now, let’s talk about you, AHOYBRAUSE. Since I’ve answered your question, it’s time you answer mine:

• Why did you switch your signature campaign from Stake to Whale? Did your puppet master Eddie instruct you to wear a new mask after being exposed as a Stake shill?
• Why were you treated so “special” by Stake, receiving three birthday bonuses? Does that not raise suspicion?
• Why do you continue to defend Stake while conveniently ignoring their fraudulent practices, including their illegal operations and refusal to provide betting data?

You are nothing but a fraud, just like Eddie and his shady empire. You and other Stake puppets (like Ryzeneddit and Holydarkness) operate in a coordinated manner to defend your puppet master while misleading others.

If you have any credibility left, make your own apology for being a part of Stake’s PR propaganda. Otherwise, your empty arguments and selective attacks only expose your hypocrisy.

PS: This forum doesn’t forget, and neither do I. You’ve just been exposed.

LOL, that's your explanation. Get real man, you are making a fool of yourself. See more on the bottom.
Funny how you instantly derail the conversation back to your stupid questions and accusations.

Also, why I changed the campaign has 1 reason. It's easy to figure out if you look in the campaign section, I will let you figure it out yourself.
Also, I don't defend stake, I just have a problem with the nonsense you are posting. You are just a loser, plain and simple. And now you try to get your money back. I am also down on stake, but I would never get a ridiculous idea like you and blame a site for it.
Even when I was in the campaign I openly wrote about things I didn't like, because that's what I do. Everybody but you would be able to see that.

And while I am so nice and answer your questions, even though you don't even deserve it, let's talk about bday bonuses. Eirst of all, it's not 3 bday bonuses, learn to read. Every player that has a VIP host gets these. 1 via email and one from your host on your actual birthday. And one more from your host on your stake "bday" (registration date). It's also not hard to figure this out because I CLEARLY explained it in the ANN thread. Guess reading is an issue for you.

Back to duelbits, you tried to delete your posts in this thread you created about the site, yet everything is still saved you know.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5513287.msg64698878#msg64698878

Hey everyone,

I wanted to share an ongoing issue I’ve been experiencing with Duelbits, and I believe other users should be aware of their practices. After several emails requesting the contact details for their Data Protection Officer and information about their parent company, Liquid Entertainment N.V., Duelbits continues to evade my request.

Under data protection laws, I am entitled to access this information, but they repeatedly redirect me to their general support team instead of providing the actual contact details I’m requesting. This behavior raises serious concerns about their transparency and how they handle user data.

It’s been over a month since I first reached out, and their reluctance to provide the requested information is highly suspicious. This lack of accountability makes me question whether Duelbits is trying to hide something.

Has anyone else experienced this kind of evasion with Duelbits? I’d appreciate hearing from others who have had issues with their support or their handling of personal data. We should hold these platforms accountable, especially when they claim to be provably fair while avoiding basic user rights like data access.

Let’s get the word out and push for better accountability from these crypto casinos!

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You always think deleting the bs you post here makes it disappear, you are wrong.

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Well, your level at stake is not high enough, so you only get 1 bonus, too bad for you but nobody cares. I hope you can level up and lose more while doing so. Crying over not getting a bday bonus and even asking the chat support about this is quite sad and also pathetic. But I bet you already know that. Every reply you give you lower the bar a lot, thanks for entertaining us with that. Yet you will NOT get any refunds and you will stay broke forever, I am so happy about that. Btw, what happened to peacing out? Guess you remembered you are broke, without any job or future opportunities. So it' back to blackmailing trying to get a handout.  

Also, living in Japan doesn't mean I am from Japan, hahaha. What a clown argument. You would kill to live in a country like Japan or any other place, yet we all know where you are stuck at.  
Get your facts straight before starting any discussion here because you will lose every single time little man.

By the way, nothing about duelbits again, little hypocrite.

You and your BlackyJacky account are here for the wrong reasons. Posting the same nonsense about the house edge and stuff. Same guy, same blackjack related name, same wrong calculation, both from India, same writing style. Why do you even bother to pretend?