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December 28, 2024, 03:03:54 AM |
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You have a good point that the risk is there, no one can trust an addict to pay, and even if the gambler is not an addict, so long as he losses the money to the same casino, he may not want to pay back. Still, we should not forget that many loan services exist and some loans are collatarised while the others are not.
But how do you know if someone is addicted? The casino should have a record of every person who goes there frequently, but if it is a person who has all the appearance of being someone wealthy, and if he goes to a casino and suddenly says he needs a loan, what is the protocol that is followed so that he is an eligible Beneficiary ? I look here at the photo when I see the loan Services and there are many who are borrowers who look bad and the lender looks bad and even more so when it is Without any type of guarantee, you have to have a very Eagle eye for that and I have not seen a Casino that makes a loan that is an online casino.
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December 28, 2024, 10:25:47 AM |
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You have a good point that the risk is there, no one can trust an addict to pay, and even if the gambler is not an addict, so long as he losses the money to the same casino, he may not want to pay back. Still, we should not forget that many loan services exist and some loans are collatarised while the others are not.
But how do you know if someone is addicted? The casino should have a record of every person who goes there frequently, but if it is a person who has all the appearance of being someone wealthy, and if he goes to a casino and suddenly says he needs a loan, what is the protocol that is followed so that he is an eligible Beneficiary ? All I can conclude is that you didn't think this through, if casinos could sincerely stop a gambler from gambling for a while due to his gambling habits, they can suspect an addict. The reason why they turn blind eyes in most cases is for them to make more money, even their AIs can easily point out to addicts. Addicts may be easily detected through their frequent deposits, high wagering and regular losses and how they repeat the process again and again with a clear iota of desperation. They will surely avoid such a fella and disburse the loan to better-behaved gamblers, and of course, a traceable or certified financial report must back it up even if the loan is not collateralized.
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December 28, 2024, 01:13:06 PM |
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This kind of service offer will not be good at all. It will encourage gamblers to gamble more when the person has no money. It is better the way it is now as there is no gambling sites that I know that is offering this kind of service. Maybe gambling sites may think it is not safe and some people may even go away with the money borrowed as there are other gambling sites as alternatives.
Exactly my point, lending gamblers money or service to gamble more is not really a good idea to me even though it will attract customers and as such, also make some customers to be an addict. Apart from these, some customers will take advantage of it and gamble anyhow because it's not their hard earned money and they can easily go away with it if it is online casinos because you can't locate them. The only time when a customer can not or will not run away with the lend service or money is if the Casino company has another company or an organization they will carry out such activity with (patronizing the casino company) because the organization or company can not run away with casino company money Because their reputation will be at stake.
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December 28, 2024, 01:33:10 PM |
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This kind of service offer will not be good at all. It will encourage gamblers to gamble more when the person has no money. It is better the way it is now as there is no gambling sites that I know that is offering this kind of service. Maybe gambling sites may think it is not safe and some people may even go away with the money borrowed as there are other gambling sites as alternatives.
agree, loan services are not good for gamblers and loan providers, the ones who lose the most are loan providers where the risk level of loss can reach 80% not being returned, where gamblers if they have lost and are unable to pay will definitely not come to the casino again, even though the borrower has data but does not guarantee that he can collect from the borrower on the grounds that he does not have the money to pay it
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December 28, 2024, 01:59:19 PM |
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Still there will be people like that lending it to that person, If his desire is hindered by money then that person will desperately borrow in order to continue gambling, using a third party would be much better to avoid unwanted things, at least avoiding people who do not pay the debt and using a third party is much better, because this will be a risk of losing money or even losing life at once, the right solution is to provide a loan with a guarantee of something that might be a guarantee for the borrower so that the money borrowed is not wasted.
And that is where the problem with this begins, because people will always want more, the money that is borrowed according to what I understand and what I have as a concept is to acquire it for an emergency and for something where it is needed right away, that is my concept about lending money and obviously having a good payment capacity ready to respond because the idea is to Respond to the loan with its interests and everything because it is one's reputation as a person and that , no matter what , should be had as the first option since it is our image.
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December 28, 2024, 03:31:10 PM |
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If the casino offer lending service inside, I'm sure they will be get banned because they didn't fill the requirement of safe gambling. When the gamblers lost a lot money, the casino would restrict the gamblers to gamble or in online casino we know about self exclusion since it's more popular.
Even there's a loan shark or lending service exist near the casino, it's not affiliated by the casino.
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For casinos that do offers some lending internally then they do really know on how to run up the business and also making it as some sort of advantages. Yes, they do offer non collateral but to know that the loan amount will really be that only used into the platform on which the gambler has nothing to ran away with the funds that they do loan on into the casinos which there's no way that platforms will really be that simply allowing on making up withdrawals with those loans at the time that they do make up such grant. Risks is there but due to this kind of prohibition or restriction then there's no way that they can easily be able to get out and also the casino will really be at advantage on where since they can still have some money that they could get into those who do took the loan basing up into the agreement.
It should be that way, personally if I had a casino and I gave out loans it would only be to exclusive clients, who know that they will pay me and that they will not run away because it is very easy for someone to request a loan and not come back, that is what can happen, however when we stop to think before granting the loan they should make some kind of contract for it and thus the person who lends the money for their benefit is left with something signed, it is the only way to get some kind of compensation by law, basically it is the smartest thing that can be done.
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All I can conclude is that you didn't think this through, if casinos could sincerely stop a gambler from gambling for a while due to his gambling habits, they can suspect an addict. The reason why they turn blind eyes in most cases is for them to make more money, even their AIs can easily point out to addicts. Addicts may be easily detected through their frequent deposits, high wagering and regular losses and how they repeat the process again and again with a clear iota of desperation. They will surely avoid such a fella and disburse the loan to better-behaved gamblers, and of course, a traceable or certified financial report must back it up even if the loan is not collateralized.
Now that you mention it, it's very logical and I didn't think about it before, but I didn't think about it before because for me AI is not intelligence, it's a set of algorithms that search the Internet for very filtered information and according to that they give answers to questions and requests, but for me it's not intelligence because it doesn't think, for me all intelligence that I've reviewed only gives very general answers, there's a long way to go for it to be intelligence itself, but I imagine that there are many detector programs to keep those records that you talk about and that can determine if they are Addicted.
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You know that nowadays there are many people who even if they don't know they are borrowing money, they will do it to borrow money as long as they still want to continue playing gambling. This is if they are in a casino. Now, if they look for collateral, either the jewelry they were wearing when they were gambling, or the vehicle they were carrying can be collateral to lend them money from the casino management itself.
This is the system that I know according to my friend who often gambled at land based casinos before when we were still working together. But as long as possible, I hope not, if you lose, stop.
Of course these things will always be very necessary in any casino for its business model to continue growing, but for collateral like the ones you talk about they are really something very delicate when the borrower adds them up, because a vehicle, the deeds of a house are in play is because it has gone too far, in this aspect things tend to settle down and there is already a reason for it to stop and not continue any further, for this reason it is necessary to keep in mind what things we are willing to lose when we go to a casino and I am sure that very few will think of leaving a vehicle or a house as collateral, the truth is that sometimes the addiction goes to very far limits.
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If the casino offer lending service inside, I'm sure they will be get banned because they didn't fill the requirement of safe gambling. When the gamblers lost a lot money, the casino would restrict the gamblers to gamble or in online casino we know about self exclusion since it's more popular.
Even there's a loan shark or lending service exist near the casino, it's not affiliated by the casino.
Maybe casino can cooperate with other third parties that offers loan to gamblers but no one will know about that. Casino will not limits gamblers who already lost a lot money because that will be gamblers responsibility with themselves. If gamblers realize that they are gone too far with gambling, they must stop what they do in gambling so they can reduce their lost and not playing gambling too often. But only a few gamblers can feel about that while the rest will still playing gambling as usual. That is why we must realize that we don't have to borrow money from anyone.
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December 31, 2024, 11:23:15 AM |
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agree, loan services are not good for gamblers and loan providers, the ones who lose the most are loan providers where the risk level of loss can reach 80% not being returned, where gamblers if they have lost and are unable to pay will definitely not come to the casino again, even though the borrower has data but does not guarantee that he can collect from the borrower on the grounds that he does not have the money to pay it It just that if it loan shark then he will do various ways to be able to collect debts even with violence, especially loan shark will usually also ask for collateral such as valuables and will carry out forced confiscation when the person who borrows money does not immediately pay it. While online gambling sites themselves are really impossible to provide loan services, no one wants to do business with such risks, moreover without lending money they still get many loyal customers and always come every time to spend their money.
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December 31, 2024, 12:39:56 PM |
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I think there are no online casinos that provide loans to gamblers like some traditional casinos that have loan programs or loan sharks who are ready to lend money to gamblers. that may be because gamblers who play at online casinos are not physically present and only rely on KYC which is not convincing enough for online casinos to lend them money. and usually gamblers who want to play have more options to borrow from online loans or use their credit cards, so online casinos don't bother to lend money to those who want to play again.
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Jody.Drummer
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December 31, 2024, 01:00:02 PM |
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You have a good point that the risk is there, no one can trust an addict to pay, and even if the gambler is not an addict, so long as he losses the money to the same casino, he may not want to pay back. Still, we should not forget that many loan services exist and some loans are collatarised while the others are not.
But how do you know if someone is addicted? The casino should have a record of every person who goes there frequently, but if it is a person who has all the appearance of being someone wealthy, and if he goes to a casino and suddenly says he needs a loan, what is the protocol that is followed so that he is an eligible Beneficiary ? I look here at the photo when I see the loan Services and there are many who are borrowers who look bad and the lender looks bad and even more so when it is Without any type of guarantee, you have to have a very Eagle eye for that and I have not seen a Casino that makes a loan that is an online casino. Someone who has dared to take risky actions for gambling such as borrowing money and the purpose of borrowing is for gambling, in my opinion, it is enough to explain that the person has been trapped at the point of gambling addiction, because I think a wise person will not do this because they realize that gambling is just a means of entertainment and we should not go to great lengths to do it. I myself gamble online and of course there are many online casinos that I have found but have never found an online casino that provides loans online, because I think it is quite unreasonable if this is held, also the casino seems to have difficulty collecting it if you win this is real but other things the casino seems to find it difficult to get collateral for the borrower, for personal data maybe that is possible but for now technology is getting more sophisticated which can make someone outsmart things like this so I don't think there are any online casinos that provide things like this.
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December 31, 2024, 01:22:40 PM |
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If the casino offer lending service inside, I'm sure they will be get banned because they didn't fill the requirement of safe gambling. When the gamblers lost a lot money, the casino would restrict the gamblers to gamble or in online casino we know about self exclusion since it's more popular.
Even there's a loan shark or lending service exist near the casino, it's not affiliated by the casino.
Maybe casino can cooperate with other third parties that offers loan to gamblers but no one will know about that. Casino will not limits gamblers who already lost a lot money because that will be gamblers responsibility with themselves. If gamblers realize that they are gone too far with gambling, they must stop what they do in gambling so they can reduce their lost and not playing gambling too often. But only a few gamblers can feel about that while the rest will still playing gambling as usual. That is why we must realize that we don't have to borrow money from anyone. If there's someone really want to take a risk to run a business model like this provably that we already see some if it running online. But since there's nothing yet exist provably that to many people got afraid to take a risk to operate such business like this since they are prone to lose more money compare on they can earn some since provably that there's huge instances that their business will colllapsed due to those loan defaulters. Also its hard to stop when they or think about they can bounce back and once there's easy way to ask some money on provably that those people might get encourage more to continue because they can always get money from those online loan institution. I'm also glad that there's nothing like this exist since provably this might be another reason on why to many people got addicted on gambling.
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ethereumhunter
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January 01, 2025, 04:32:52 AM |
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If there's someone really want to take a risk to run a business model like this provably that we already see some if it running online. But since there's nothing yet exist provably that to many people got afraid to take a risk to operate such business like this since they are prone to lose more money compare on they can earn some since provably that there's huge instances that their business will colllapsed due to those loan defaulters.
Also its hard to stop when they or think about they can bounce back and once there's easy way to ask some money on provably that those people might get encourage more to continue because they can always get money from those online loan institution. I'm also glad that there's nothing like this exist since provably this might be another reason on why to many people got addicted on gambling.
It is not easy if they want to run that business because they must face the loan defaulters which is difficult to gets the money. Maybe they can get the money if the borrower are in the same city with the lender but if not, they can not travel to other places because that will cost much money. Those lender better run their business by offline so they can get their money back from people that located to the same city like them. Usually, people are taking a loan from the online and use the money for other things. But the problem is many people still difficult to repay the money back.
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Apocollapse
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January 01, 2025, 05:00:39 AM |
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It is not easy if they want to run that business because they must face the loan defaulters which is difficult to gets the money. Maybe they can get the money if the borrower are in the same city with the lender but if not, they can not travel to other places because that will cost much money.
Those lender better run their business by offline so they can get their money back from people that located to the same city like them. Usually, people are taking a loan from the online and use the money for other things. But the problem is many people still difficult to repay the money back.
True, lending service is mostly run in locals, even they have online version, it just the way to get loan via online application, but the company are built in the same country where they offer the service. It's inconvenience to run a global lending service due to difficult to manage and different culture/laws. Although there are many borrowers who can't repay the loan on time, but the jobs vacancy for debt collectors are keep rising, so it will force the borrowers to pay off the debt.
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January 01, 2025, 04:02:04 PM |
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I was wondering if there are online casinos that offer this kind of feature. In physical casinos, you often see loan sharks waiting for regular gamblers to borrow money at high interest rates. Since the urge to gamble is similar whether online or in physical casinos, it would be interesting to see if online casinos offer a way to borrow money to chase losses.
Well giving loan is part of a business which anyone and company can indulge in. But I have not seen it in the online casinos and offline casinos centers but I have seen offline casinos offer gambler to play games on credit and pay back later whether they win or not. And I don't think online casinos will give out such service or feature to gamblers which some of the gamblers might take as an opportunity to borrow big amounts and left the casino for another. It will be a dangerous thing to do as a casino.
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danadc
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January 01, 2025, 05:38:11 PM |
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Someone who has dared to take risky actions for gambling such as borrowing money and the purpose of borrowing is for gambling, in my opinion, it is enough to explain that the person has been trapped at the point of gambling addiction,
You could say that it is like that, but there is also something to be seen, there are people who are very wealthy who go to casinos without enough cash or who go without their credit cards and well, these are people who are exclusive clients of the casino and the casino knows them and knows that they are people who spend a lot of money playing, only in that condition is when I dare to say that they are non-addicted players and that they have that special condition where the casino can give them a loan, and of course they pay as soon as they return, so for that type of clients things are different.
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Lida93
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January 01, 2025, 05:49:16 PM |
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Yes I am aware of the loan sharks offline that look gamblers who are in depression after a huge loss and looking to recover or those addicted gamblers who are short on funds but can resist the urge to join in the game. I don't know how it works in your area but in my those so called loan sharks are not in connection to the owners of the gambling house so I don't this any gambling company would promote this and it may just lead to people getting even more addicted.
There should be some requirements or some level of familiarity of the gambler and the loan shark with the gambling house before loan could be willfully granted to a gambler in that case. Despite being physical casino these loans aren't just granted to just any kind of gambler, there must be something at stake in form of a collateral for the loan since winning isn't guaranteed. Probably if same procedures could be applied to the online gambling scene then we can start having some casinos coming up with such features. I think perhaps the online aspect of it seems tedious and that's what makes online casinos not considering it just yet.
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January 01, 2025, 05:59:28 PM |
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I was wondering if there are online casinos that offer this kind of feature. In physical casinos, you often see loan sharks waiting for regular gamblers to borrow money at high interest rates. Since the urge to gamble is similar whether online or in physical casinos, it would be interesting to see if online casinos offer a way to borrow money to chase losses.
I do not know any casino that offers loan services. I think it is difficult for a casino to give loans without any collateral. Physical casinos can give loans because they know the person who is taking the loan and if he does not pay the loan, they can take legal action against them. With online casinos, a person can lose all the loan money and may never return so the casino won't take such risks.
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