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December 16, 2024, 09:50:10 AM
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Certainly, rich companies with hundreds of bitcoins in their assets provide for all security factors that can save their assets in all possible emergencies. It is pointless to talk about all the intricacies of storage here, since each organization will have its own secret one way or another that no one will ever show publicly.


The image above shows how/ways businesses handles their Bitcoin reserves.
https://river.com/learn/how-should-a-business-store-bitcoin/

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December 16, 2024, 09:59:33 AM
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Certainly, rich companies with hundreds of bitcoins in their assets provide for all security factors that can save their assets in all possible emergencies. It is pointless to talk about all the intricacies of storage here, since each organization will have its own secret one way or another that no one will ever show publicly.


The image above shows how/ways businesses handles their Bitcoin reserves.
https://river.com/learn/how-should-a-business-store-bitcoin/

It's like a cherry on top of each cake - each cake would be sweet, but the cherry on top would be different in taste and form.
The cherry would be the security secrets in question.

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December 16, 2024, 10:24:05 AM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.
I think they use cold wallets, but different companies with different approach.
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December 16, 2024, 10:39:43 AM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.

Big corporates do not hold their Bitcoins in a hardware wallet or something similar to this. They have enterprise level custodian services available in the market which are usually insured. Companies like Microstrategy, do not keep their Bitcoins in one location. That's the basic safety they all employ to safeguard their Bitcoins.

You can refer to this article if you want to know more about it -

https://river.com/learn/how-should-a-business-store-bitcoin/

Hope this helps!
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December 16, 2024, 10:58:18 AM
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It is a company right? Either big or small they have the money to go the best way of storing their Bitcoin, and that's through cold storage, off the  Internet, the safest way possible I believe.

The fact about storing Bitcoin the best possible way is not even costing anyone a lot, I suggest every one to go same route as these so called companies, like I've said it takes few hundred dollars to get the best open source hardware wallet.

I recommend airgapped bitcoin wallet like Keystone, can't go wrong with three security chips in one wallet, so far this wallet is one of the best, there are other options available too.

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December 16, 2024, 11:07:55 AM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.

Big corporates do not hold their Bitcoins in a hardware wallet or something similar to this. They have enterprise level custodian services available in the market which are usually insured. Companies like Microstrategy, do not keep their Bitcoins in one location. That's the basic safety they all employ to safeguard their Bitcoins.

You can refer to this article if you want to know more about it -

https://river.com/learn/how-should-a-business-store-bitcoin/

Hope this helps!

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December 16, 2024, 11:25:50 AM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.

But as much as I know different companies use different approaches, they basically use multi-sig. And they use hot wallets to complete daily transactions, especially the most important is cold storage. Basically there are multiple backups that every employee is connected to and they manage it efficiently enough to keep it safe. And they store it for a long time and manage it more securely, so it is quite secure.

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December 16, 2024, 12:05:12 PM
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You need to ask to that big companies to have a real answers. Those big companies prepare many things before they  start invest in Bitcoin. Whatever wallets they are used, that is their business but we can guess from all wallets that we know that they may used. They don't afraid to keep such a large number of Bitcoin because they know how to secure their Bitcoin. I don't think they will tell public what wallet they used to store Bitcoin although some of them may tells that. We have a standard procedure how to secure our wallet and what wallet that suit for us so that is what the big companies will do. I am sure they already read all things necessary for that.

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December 16, 2024, 12:21:00 PM
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Usually Hardware Wallets.
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December 16, 2024, 12:27:54 PM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.

But as much as I know different companies use different approaches, they basically use multi-sig. And they use hot wallets to complete daily transactions, especially the most important is cold storage. Basically there are multiple backups that every employee is connected to and they manage it efficiently enough to keep it safe. And they store it for a long time and manage it more securely, so it is quite secure.

Some of their addresses, active ones, may be known, but most of them, and especially the ones used just to store BTC - of course they would try to make them as much unknown as possible to everybody around.
After all - privacy is key, and big companies try to keep up with that just like ordinary enthusiasts from their side.

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December 16, 2024, 12:31:04 PM
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Usually Hardware Wallets.
Hardware wallets can be open source or close source, and companies with big funds must use open source hardware wallets. Hardware wallets are not automatic good.

They need to buy it rightly and back up their wallets properly too. It's important for their wallet recovery later and this recovery step is important to secure their fund.
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December 17, 2024, 09:05:49 PM
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While I do agree with hard wallets, I also think that they almost all have their own servers as well, and backups and so forth. They do not really need to have a hardware wallet, do they? I mean they could just put the wallet somewhere, and they could put backups of it in ten other places, without needing another tool.

I mean they could also get it too, like they may have ten different ledgers and put it all on different ledgers so it would be diversified and all that, but I am not sure if there is a "need" for it, that would be something they do because they want to do it, not because they have to do it. If I was a big company like that, I would put it all on my server, in different wallets, to make sure it's diversified, and would back it up in 10 different places, just in case, even in out of office places too. That way it would look much better and we could have a better approach and could do much better as well, results would show that it's safe and secure enough.

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December 18, 2024, 05:24:15 AM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used? What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.

I believe they use an air-gapped hardware wallet as cold storage and track their portfolio somewhere. They may also use multi-sig wallets. I am not sure if one can create a multi-sig wallet using a hardware wallet. But if it is possible, I guess most companies use this technology to store their Bitcoin. I don't know which hardware wallet is better than the others.

However, as a user, if you have thousands of dollars of Bitcoin, you should use a hardware wallet, which may only cost you a few hundred bucks. But it is worth it. So, consider buying a hardware wallet if you have Bitcoin and want to secure it. Most importantly, store your seed phrases offline and securely.


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December 18, 2024, 07:25:49 AM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.
Big companies must have a secure wallet to store bitcoins because it is a top priority when they buy bitcoins and maybe it has been answered by previous users on the main page. But if you ask the company, I am sure they will never want to answer what wallet is used in detail because talking about security is impossible to talk about in public. If talking about being afraid or not, it really depends on the company, this is not a small number and they must have prepared definite security measures.

If the company dares to invest a large amount of money in bitcoin, then the level of security they use will certainly be much better. They don't want to risk losing assets and have certainly prepared carefully to use a much safer wallet.


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December 18, 2024, 07:47:56 AM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.
Big companies must have a secure wallet to store bitcoins because it is a top priority when they buy bitcoins and maybe it has been answered by previous users on the main page. But if you ask the company, I am sure they will never want to answer what wallet is used in detail because talking about security is impossible to talk about in public. If talking about being afraid or not, it really depends on the company, this is not a small number and they must have prepared definite security measures.

If the company dares to invest a large amount of money in bitcoin, then the level of security they use will certainly be much better. They don't want to risk losing assets and have certainly prepared carefully to use a much safer wallet.

Their coins - their right to keep their secrets shut  Grin
In all honesty, big companies know their business, surely.
We can only say about smaller companies that will flock to BTC in the near decade to have (just maybe) some issues or breaches in the future to come, and I am eager to see something like that to be set as an example for others.

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December 18, 2024, 08:54:11 AM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.
It is difficult to answer this question because most companies will not publish where and how these assets are stored. However, referring to these words "Sound Money Deserves Sound Custody" the company will store their assets in an independent wallet that can maintain control over those assets.
Most Companies that hold Bitcoin treat it as digital gold and often hold Bitcoin for long-term investment. Choosing the right wallet is an important step in keeping assets safe and managing investments well. There are different types of Bitcoin wallets available, each with its own unique characteristics. The storage flow is not much different in general, after Converting Fiat to Bitcoin, then ending up in a multisig cold wallet.
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December 18, 2024, 09:17:25 AM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.
It is difficult to answer this question because most companies will not publish where and how these assets are stored. However, referring to these words "Sound Money Deserves Sound Custody" the company will store their assets in an independent wallet that can maintain control over those assets.
Most Companies that hold Bitcoin treat it as digital gold and often hold Bitcoin for long-term investment. Choosing the right wallet is an important step in keeping assets safe and managing investments well. There are different types of Bitcoin wallets available, each with its own unique characteristics. The storage flow is not much different in general, after Converting Fiat to Bitcoin, then ending up in a multisig cold wallet.

As it was said - they probably have custodian services to do so - I mean, to accumulate BTC securely.
And these cost so much it's no wonder they don't worry about much  Grin

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December 18, 2024, 12:36:25 PM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.
I don't know how other companies store their Bitcoins but Freebitco.in, which was one of the most popular Bitcoin website (and one of the earliest adopter of Bitcoin) is the only website that has talked about that. As freebitco states, they use a combination of hot wallets, hardware wallets and BIP38 encrypted paper wallets but I assume, big companies like Binance for example, store it in a different way, which I think is a secret. They must be using multisig wallet and their crypto wallets might be generated by a very secure air-gapped computer or they might have their own software and hardware. I doubt these companies use wallets like Trezor and ColdCard but what they exactly do is a secret and I believe, they are extremely careful about it because once Bitcoins are gone or wallet keys are lost, it's impossible to recover Bitcoins.

I'd really love if someone has an experience in big companies and share some info with us. I had the same question a year ago.

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December 18, 2024, 12:38:03 PM
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Hi guys. My question is, how do big companies store bitcoins? Which wallets are used?  What is the procedure for accessing the wallet? And how they are not afraid to keep such a large number of bitcoins worth millions of dollars in their wallets. The human factor can play a very cruel joke.
I don't know how other companies store their Bitcoins but Freebitco.in, which was one of the most popular Bitcoin website (and one of the earliest adopter of Bitcoin) is the only website that has talked about that. As freebitco states, they use a combination of hot wallets, hardware wallets and BIP38 encrypted paper wallets but I assume, big companies like Binance for example, store it in a different way, which I think is a secret. They must be using multisig wallet and their crypto wallets might be generated by a very secure air-gapped computer or they might have their own software and hardware. I doubt these companies use wallets like Trezor and ColdCard but what they exactly do is a secret and I believe, they are extremely careful about it because once Bitcoins are gone or wallet keys are lost, it's impossible to recover Bitcoins.

I'd really love if someone has an experience in big companies and share some info with us. I had the same question a year ago.

I do think a person in question would be paid much to keep it a secret.
Maybe he would lend us a hint or two, but that would be it.

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December 18, 2024, 01:58:25 PM
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There are multiple ways in which companies and institutions hold their coins and store the necessary private keys. It's also a question of how knowledgeable they are about Bitcoin and features like cold wallets and multisig setups. I am sure there are many that use exactly those options. However, other entities rely on third-parties to help them secure their bitcoin. Finally, they use hardware wallets like regular folk. Combining multiple setups is also an option.

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