Ridiculous bonus terms

[alani123]

Some crypto casinos really get creative when it comes to allowing you to withdraw bonuses. The terms are so restrictive it's almost impossible.

They may give you a bonus, let's say in the form of free spins... And then your free spins may end up netting you 20$ in winnings. Well,.you will find out that free spins are limited to up to 5$ per giveaway of free spins... And then you at least have 5$ right? Well, no! You still have to fulfill a wagger limits. And your 5$ had to be staggered at least to a gross turnover of $300! That's 60x... And not only that, you can only wagger on a selection of slot games and nothing else. If the wagering could be done on dice or something with low house edge, whatever. But they really really don't want you to win anything by forcing you to play slots with 5$.

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino. Bonuses don't have to be huge when you're forced to lose everything. Just give a few cents and might as well keep it simple and give nothing. Right?

[Oshosondy]

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino.

I do not understand this at all. If a casino gives you deposit bonus, you can not be able to withdraw the deposit bonus until you follow the rules and you win. So if a casino give you a deposit bonus, you will still follow rules like multiply the money 2 or 3 times or more before you will be able to withdraw any money on the casino.

[Queentoshi]

The terms of use of casino bonuses have been made so to make sure that some greedy people do not take advantage of them. This is why I think that they make these terms and conditions to make sure that they are giving bonuses to people who have the intention to actually gamble on their platform, not bonus hunters. Some terms are quite ridiculous though, and the more unwilling a casino is to give bonuses the more ridiculous the terms and conditions will be.

[alani123]

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino.

I do not understand this at all. If a casino gives you deposit bonus, you can not be able to withdraw the deposit bonus until you follow the rules and you win. So if a casino give you a deposit bonus, you will still follow rules like multiply the money 2 or 3 times or more before you will be able to withdraw any money on the casino.

Well, that's the thing. When the terms for something as simple as free spins are so convoluted like having to do 60x to withdraw some pennies, why should I trust them with a type of bonus that could keep my money bound to a wagering requitement that may be equally ridiculous?

When things aren't kept simple I'll either have to spend more time reading rules than playing or just avoid these shady promos altogether. I don't know why do many casinos these days and she follow the latter.

[acroman08]

As far as I know, ToS on free spins can be different for each promotion/bonus. this is why it is extremely important to read the specific ToS for that promotion or at least ask their support for more info regarding the promotion/bonus you are curious about, it could save you a lot of hassle, especially if you just want to gamble without doing an ungodly amount of wager requirements.

[Upgrade00]

They may give you a bonus, let's say in the form of free spins... And then your free spins may end up netting you 20$ in winnings. Well,.you will find out that free spins are limited to up to 5$ per giveaway of free spins...

I have come across all the other points but I've never seen a casino limit how much you can win from freespins they provided. If you win more than that does it get deducted from your wallet or you're just unable to spend it at all?

Some try to control how you play by giving a range of odds you can bet on, but that can't be done for slots, so it's interesting how this can be enforced and why not just give me $5 from the start with the wagering requirement

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Every site is different of course but some sites, in terms of their rollover terms, are much worse than other of course.
There is a scam accusation currently against nitrobetting (or whatever they are calling themselves these days) where the player unknowingly got the deposit bonus. Now he can only withdraw once he has finished the 35x (or more) rollover.
Having this 35x wager is bad enough but now what they do is limiting your account to micro bets so that you have to make hundreds of sports bets to finish this rollover, which is ridiculous.

I had a similar problem with BC just now. Got a free bet, won this bet and got like 6$. According to the rules of the promo you have to wager those around 6$ 10 times to unlock the funds. But of course it's not that easy since they are hiding rules and they are not even written on the site. Heck not even even my host or the support knew what's going on, at least so they claimed. I figured it out myself though because I wagered over 200$ on sports and only 80% of the rollover was completed.
Now what they do is, only count 50% of my bets towards the rollover. And not only that, they also capped the maximum bet amount. Meaning, when I made a 20$ bet they only counted 10$ toward the wager. When I made a 120$ bet they only counted 20$ towards the wager, because of the cap of 20$, no matter how big your bets was..
So the advertised rollover is 10x but it's actually 20x (because only 50% of the bet amount count) , calculate the cap in and the requirement is even higher than 20x. So that's ridiculous bonus terms.

[sunsilk]

Some crypto casinos really get creative when it comes to allowing you to withdraw bonuses. The terms are so restrictive it's almost impossible.

They may give you a bonus, let's say in the form of free spins... And then your free spins may end up netting you 20$ in winnings. Well,.you will find out that free spins are limited to up to 5$ per giveaway of free spins... And then you at least have 5$ right? Well, no! You still have to fulfill a wagger limits. And your 5$ had to be staggered at least to a gross turnover of $300! That's 60x... And not only that, you can only wagger on a selection of slot games and nothing else. If the wagering could be done on dice or something with low house edge, whatever. But they really really don't want you to win anything by forcing you to play slots with 5$.

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino. Bonuses don't have to be huge when you're forced to lose everything. Just give a few cents and might as well keep it simple and give nothing. Right?

I won't also do some deposits with that, if I can use the giveaway money that I have received and won some money, that's where it is all going to rotate.

The wagering requirements for a specific amount and more likely 2x of the bonus that I've got is going to be met with that money not from my pocket.

I think most of the gamblers that are aware of this rules have already set their own rules as well on how they are going to meet the requirements without touching their pockets.

[Churchillvv]

As far as I know, ToS on free spins can be different for each promotion/bonus. this is why it is extremely important to read the specific ToS for that promotion or at least ask their support for more info regarding the promotion/bonus you are curious about, it could save you a lot of hassle, especially if you just want to gamble without doing an ungodly amount of wager requirements.

Some ToS only shows that nothing comes for free. OP I guess you should be familiar with this phrase "Nothing is free even in free town" Yeah it applies to this, just as you acroman08 has said different casinos have different ToS and its best for us to read them carefully and of we aren't convenient with it then we should let go.

Casinos this days just promote free spin or bonuses for engagement purposes once you've entered into hunting this bonuses you will ended you hunting yourself because sometimes it's very difficult to win as casinos do fix certain odds within some games so in my opinion whatsoever you are not okay with just skip it.

[SmartGold01]

I do not understand this at all. If a casino gives you deposit bonus, you can not be able to withdraw the deposit bonus until you follow the rules and you win. So if a casino give you a deposit bonus, you will still follow rules like multiply the money 2 or 3 times or more before you will be able to withdraw any money on the casino.

Usually I do not attracted by these free spin and mostly for those who plays casino games, unlike the deposit bonuses. For sports betting is not that common and since I don't put much attention to slot or dice I wouldn't face that difficulties, except for the welcome bonus.
But we should know that free spin are designed in away that one must gamble and make deposit to hit a specific multiplier before they could be permitted to make withdrawal but other hands making to feel that are giving free spin. I think similar concerned has been raised before if I am not mistakenly.

[Gozie51]

The purposes of deposit bonus is to attract people to register and the purpose of restricting how you use the bonus is to make sure you lose out on it and these restrictions are either increasing how much to wager, how many times to wager and the game to play on. Of course there is no free meal anywhere, casinos are in for business, There is no need to worry on such bonus because it is not easy.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Some crypto casinos really get creative when it comes to allowing you to withdraw bonuses. The terms are so restrictive it's almost impossible.

Do you just say almost, i think in most cases it is impossible, you cant expect that they gave you some bonus now to expect you to gamble with it and make more money so that you can always log in to their platform, gamble and place bets, but when they remove the restriction on you and then one can withdraw their bonus, then that shows that they are not professional in what they do, because this kind act will be be a profitable one to them by any chance and they are going top run on a serious loss, if care is not taken, through this they can fold up as well, but when they offer a bonus and we take such, we are expected to use it to gamble and maintain using their platform for gambling.

[Moreno233]

Some crypto casinos really get creative when it comes to allowing you to withdraw bonuses. The terms are so restrictive it's almost impossible.

They may give you a bonus, let's say in the form of free spins... And then your free spins may end up netting you 20$ in winnings. Well,.you will find out that free spins are limited to up to 5$ per giveaway of free spins... And then you at least have 5$ right? Well, no! You still have to fulfill a wagger limits. And your 5$ had to be staggered at least to a gross turnover of $300! That's 60x... And not only that, you can only wagger on a selection of slot games and nothing else. If the wagering could be done on dice or something with low house edge, whatever. But they really really don't want you to win anything by forcing you to play slots with 5$.

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino. Bonuses don't have to be huge when you're forced to lose everything. Just give a few cents and might as well keep it simple and give nothing. Right?

I have seen some of these outrageous conditions in the past especially among new and unserious casinos but gradually they are streamlining it to wagering conditions probably due to the competition in the casino business. Any casino with unrealistic condition is definitely a red flag for me because if they cannot be sincere with their bonuses and would want their customers never to withdraw them, there is therefore the possibility that when a big win happens with deposits, they will cook up one excuse or  to deny their customer their genuine winning. It is therefore fine to say that the action of the casino in respect of their bonus is important indication of the reliability of the casino.

[Cityhunter34]

The terms of use of casino bonuses have been made so to make sure that some greedy people do not take advantage of them. This is why I think that they make these terms and conditions to make sure that they are giving bonuses to people who have the intention to actually gamble on their platform, not bonus hunters. Some terms are quite ridiculous though, and the more unwilling a casino is to give bonuses the more ridiculous the terms and conditions will be.

You are absolutely correct, the more casinos offer bonuses the more ridiculous their terms and conditions will be. It is essential for players to carefully review the terms and conditions before accepting a bonus. This helps ensure that they understand the rules can make informed decisions about their gaming activity and maximize their experience.

[Ziskinberg]

Don’t fall for the word “free” because casinos never give anything for free without terms attached. It’s important to understand that they’re not running a charity, so all their promos are designed to entice gamblers to play, ensuring they profit in the end.

Even with so-called bonuses, the casino still has the edge, not just from the games but also from the bonus terms themselves. You can’t really blame them for this; those who understand won’t complain. That’s why it’s essential to read the terms carefully so you can decide whether to opt in or just stay as you are.

[2Pizza410000BTC]

Some crypto casinos really get creative when it comes to allowing you to withdraw bonuses. The terms are so restrictive it's almost impossible.

They may give you a bonus, let's say in the form of free spins... And then your free spins may end up netting you 20$ in winnings. Well,.you will find out that free spins are limited to up to 5$ per giveaway of free spins... And then you at least have 5$ right? Well, no! You still have to fulfill a wagger limits. And your 5$ had to be staggered at least to a gross turnover of $300! That's 60x... And not only that, you can only wagger on a selection of slot games and nothing else. If the wagering could be done on dice or something with low house edge, whatever. But they really really don't want you to win anything by forcing you to play slots with 5$.

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino. Bonuses don't have to be huge when you're forced to lose everything. Just give a few cents and might as well keep it simple and give nothing. Right?

Bonuses that will not give you anything in the end. To attract people, bonus systems are given on casino platforms. Casino platforms create bonus systems in such a way that people are attracted and deposit. We get greedy on various casino platforms after seeing bonus offers and take bonuses. We do not think that there is nothing to gain from bonus offers. Many times it is seen that there are many conditions given to get bonus offers, from which if some conditions are not met, the bonus is excluded. Moreover, as a result of giving bonuses, some ridiculous conditions are given that one has to go through many complicated conditions at a time to fulfill the conditions. So I think casino bonus systems are a complete waste of time, it is better not to run after these bonus systems.

[shogun47]

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino.

I do not understand this at all. If a casino gives you deposit bonus, you can not be able to withdraw the deposit bonus until you follow the rules and you win. So if a casino give you a deposit bonus, you will still follow rules like multiply the money 2 or 3 times or more before you will be able to withdraw any money on the casino.

Well, that's the thing. When the terms for something as simple as free spins are so convoluted like having to do 60x to withdraw some pennies, why should I trust them with a type of bonus that could keep my money bound to a wagering requitement that may be equally ridiculous?

When things aren't kept simple I'll either have to spend more time reading rules than playing or just avoid these shady promos altogether. I don't know why do many casinos these days and she follow the latter.

I think one of the reasons is indeed that some players try to take advantage of those bonuses, for example with multi accounts. They should have more favorable terms for players who went through KYC. Otherwise I can understand that they are undergoing massive risks because of potential abuses.

Via those terms they can literally nullify all the bonuses they are offering and since you have now brought up slot machines and these crazy rollover requirements, it is definitely not possible most of the time unless you hit a jackpot or something.

But if I understand you correctly, if you have a $5 free spin, then winnings from that free spin are also limited to $5? What if you win $100 with that free spin, would you then have to wager $6000 with those $100 in winnings while you are still limited to $5 per spin?

[Makus]

Some crypto casinos really get creative when it comes to allowing you to withdraw bonuses. The terms are so restrictive it's almost impossible.

They may give you a bonus, let's say in the form of free spins... And then your free spins may end up netting you 20$ in winnings. Well,.you will find out that free spins are limited to up to 5$ per giveaway of free spins... And then you at least have 5$ right? Well, no! You still have to fulfill a wagger limits. And your 5$ had to be staggered at least to a gross turnover of $300! That's 60x... And not only that, you can only wagger on a selection of slot games and nothing else. If the wagering could be done on dice or something with low house edge, whatever. But they really really don't want you to win anything by forcing you to play slots with 5$.

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino. Bonuses don't have to be huge when you're forced to lose everything. Just give a few cents and might as well keep it simple and give nothing. Right?

Lol op this thread seem a bit funny to me. You're on point mate, this is what most casinos do just to get their their bettors started with the mood of wanting to gamble with their real funds. I've come across some unspeakable wager requirement of casinos all with the purpose of making withdrawal frustrating to the bettor, I don't know about others but this gets me irritated of the casino. There was a casino I gambled on, with real funds and I literally saw the withdrawal amount adjusted due to the amount I have in the casino.  I left so cheated and just had to wager all my funds irresponsibly, which lead to losses. I they just lost a bettor, because I'm never using their service anymore.

[ralle14]

It's been that way for quite some time, and they could add more restrictions in the future once they frequently see gamblers winning with these bonuses.

Anyway. When I see something like this for free spins I'll be sure to never use any deposit bonus in such casino. Bonuses don't have to be huge when you're forced to lose everything. Just give a few cents and might as well keep it simple and give nothing. Right?

The wagering requirement alone is one of the reasons why I don't opt for these bonuses, there's no need to make your gambling session harder in exchange for a bankroll boost or extra spins that would lock your funds and require thousands of spins to clear.

[Strongkored]

First, Casino is a business and they expect profit so the rules in the bonus or free spins that are distributed are common, no casino gives a bonus without wager requirement.
Second, the case you mentioned is very rare for me to hear and 60x wager is too high.
Third, players should read every rule of the bonus first if it is considered unreasonable then play normally without ever claiming the bonus.