Messi destroyed Barcelona to dust

[EarnOnVictor]

I don`t ready to give him too much credit, but the same time i can`t call him noname X user. He made good predictions lots of time. I wanted to say mostly about it. And of course no one knows what was between Messi and Barcelona without witnesses. And as i said, we see only Messi`s profit here. Without words about what Messi gave to Barcelona.

You just nailed it, friend, oh yes, Messi is a big name in the world of football, so no one should discredit him for any reason. He has received every possible award due to his dedicated efforts, that guy is a true epitome of honour, and he is even booked to receive one of the US highest awards as Biden bows out of office just because he is in the Inter Miami. Anyone who wants to sign such a man must be ready to part ways with a huge amount of money. So he has always been justified for his pay.

I can`t say that he had been justified for his pay(but i can`t say otherwise).

You now sounded like politicians in my country...hahaha. The two still mean the same thing and as for me, Messi justified all the pay.

In this twit we see only one hand of the situation. Even if we remove football achievements and count only money - Barcelona got good money from Messi in the squad. Romano don`t write about it - in such way it wouldn`t be so bright twit.

I like that, Fabricio Romano only played a critic in that post, a reason best known to himself and perhaps his paymasters. I don't trust all these commentators, influencers and journalists, they also receive their paychecks one way or another, or do not just like the person of some persons of interest.

[sotelorene]

I wont call it greedy. Once you know worth then keep your value to be at the top range. Messi is the best player in the world am not surprised he requested such amount from Barcelona.

You can agree with me that Messi made a great impact to the club, won trophies including the UCL, local league and other trophies to the club. He was part of the team that Barcelona the most deadly team in the world years back. Is'nt he worth the money?

Exactly, worth is not something one should play with, Leonel Messi disciplined and trained himself to have this worth and value so anyone who says this is greed perhaps has a different definition of greed because to me it is not greed he's worth it and even if he mentioned a bigger figure than this... i believe they would have still agree with the contract because of what he is, Leonel Messi has set and create a lot of records for Barcelona and he made the club Barcelona to stand out anywhere in world just as one can not mention Real Madrid without mentioning Ronaldo. i would have love to call it greed or theft if Leonel Messi did not worth it but instead he's worth more than that and most of these contract was done out of love.

[NotATether]

Many accused Neymar of being greedy, many accused Mbappe of being greedy (quite rightly), but it looks like we have a champion: Messi.
What do you think of these numbers? This is absolutely Saudi Arabian level of payments and no adequate European club with non-corrupt management would ever sign such a contract.
Against the backdrop of these payments, Messi's tales of loyalty to the club look like a joke. He actually destroyed Barcelona, ​​which fell into a financial crisis (by the way, they still pay him) and currently lost Olmo due to financial problems.

LMAO

You don't seriously think that Messi is the one who put Barcelona in financial hardship, do you?

Because it was their presidents' fault.

They signed Dembele, Countinho, Greizmann and some other folks for 100m+ euros each. They all flopped and were sold for enormous losses.

Even now they are paying extravagant fees for transfers with their 'levers' when they should be focuses on erasing their debt. They are even had troubles keeping them (see for example Dani Olmo).

Barcelona have a bad habit on spending too much money on crappy transfers like these. They are like Manchester United in this regard but at least they know when to stop so they don't get into crippling debt.

[Zackz5000]

Many accused Neymar of being greedy, many accused Mbappe of being greedy (quite rightly), but it looks like we have a champion: Messi.
What do you think of these numbers? This is absolutely Saudi Arabian level of payments and no adequate European club with non-corrupt management would ever sign such a contract.
Against the backdrop of these payments, Messi's tales of loyalty to the club look like a joke. He actually destroyed Barcelona, ​​which fell into a financial crisis (by the way, they still pay him) and currently lost Olmo due to financial problems.

I don't see it as been greed since Messi wasn't forcing it on them to do so if Barcelona wasn't comfortable with the price they would have allowed Messi to leave the team then, Messi is a very good player he has won world best player several times he has even make Barcelona achieve more tittle and names in football history so I think he worth the payment Messi has help Barcelona to generate more money in the past. The only part I wasn't happy with Messi was the fart that he later left Barcelona at the end of everything he has been right from academy because through Barcelona he also made names in football I think he would have just retired at Barcelona.

How can you be sure of this? Maybe you were present at the negotiations or you have some inside information? From the facts we have: 115 million simply for agreeing to extend the contract. I think you will agree that this is very similar to "if you don't pay me, then I can go to those who will"? And this is not a conversation about salary at all. Literally 115 million for "loyalty".

The club have the right to say NO to what so ever offer Messi was telling them if it doesn't suit them they can probably let Messi go if the offer will be too big for them and you that were there present what made you believe that this was done duress, they choose to pay him 115 million for agreeing to extend his contract probably they believe if they allow his stay his presence in the team and his commitment to the team will generate the club more money instead of blaming Messi put the blame on the Barcelona management for accepting such offer so they probably seen or believe that they can't do with Messi in their team they forget that it was not just Messi alone that was making Barcelona play a better game but the entire team the like of xavi, Iniesta and others even made Messi who he is so they should allow Messi go if they can't pay and may even still do more better without Messi in the team. So OP Messi wasn't forcing this on them.

[KTChampions]

Many accused Neymar of being greedy, many accused Mbappe of being greedy (quite rightly), but it looks like we have a champion: Messi.
What do you think of these numbers? This is absolutely Saudi Arabian level of payments and no adequate European club with non-corrupt management would ever sign such a contract.
Against the backdrop of these payments, Messi's tales of loyalty to the club look like a joke. He actually destroyed Barcelona, ​​which fell into a financial crisis (by the way, they still pay him) and currently lost Olmo due to financial problems.

LMAO

You don't seriously think that Messi is the one who put Barcelona in financial hardship, do you?

Because it was their presidents' fault.

They signed Dembele, Countinho, Greizmann and some other folks for 100m+ euros each. They all flopped and were sold for enormous losses.

Even now they are paying extravagant fees for transfers with their 'levers' when they should be focuses on erasing their debt. They are even had troubles keeping them (see for example Dani Olmo).

Barcelona have a bad habit on spending too much money on crappy transfers like these. They are like Manchester United in this regard but at least they know when to stop so they don't get into crippling debt.

LOL!
Are you seriously incapable of counting? The total cost of those you listed is less than the cost of Messi alone. Have you ever heard of the cost/benefit ratio?
As was already written in the thread above after Xavi, Iniesta and other golden players left, Messi never led Barcelona to victory in the Champions League. Maybe it was worth looking for new Xavi/Iniesta (as Real did) than waste money on Messi?

[Adbitco]

Very difficult to be on a side.

When we see this numebrs we clearly think ahead only one thing and is a greedy and a non sense ammount of money, but when you start to see it more and more in detail, maybe its not that bad considering he is the best player in football history (for a lot of people) and how much Barcelona worth and profit for having him?

Only in merch it can be thousands off dollars, players who wants to play with him and for that comes to Barcelona, etc. Thanks to him Barcelona starts to fight for real against Real Madrid, and Barcelona started to be a real contender in eveyr UCL. Look at them now..... back again in his normal track since his departure they are the same shit as they were always, a wannabe club with  good years but not a real treat.

What exactly are you saying man? hasn't Barcelona been winning trophies long before Messi? You sound as if Barcelona was nothing before now. Barcelona is the only reason why people know of him that's why he is often referred to as one club wonder, We all saw the evidence when he moved to PSG, or you want me to talk about that? The management killed the club by agreeing to every of his request that it got to a point they were afraid of losing him which resulted to his last threat of leaving the club before he was given that bumper geal of 555 million Euros in 4 years.   

[l99l]

There is mutual benefit in this contract. Messi did not force Barcelona to pay that money, so the club and Messi should be happy.
Barcelona is happy with the income they get from Messi. It would be too harsh to blame Messi for all of Barcelona's financial problems.
Barcelona may have torn itself apart, but this financially difficult process did not happen because of Messi.
It has nothing to do with greed, Messi got the payment he deserved.

[mindrust]

Barcelona management weren’t held at gun point. They didn’t have to pay whatever he demanded from the club. If they did pay these absurd amounts then it only has one meaning to me. They also got their cut. Which means all of them together robbed the club.

If they it for free, then it is pure stupidity but I don’t think so.

I know this because that’s exactly how they rob clubs in my country.

This is a police/law enforcement matter imo. Organized crime.

[darbitmobilerecovery]

Barcelona management weren’t held at gun point.

Yes and no, because no one wants to be the management who let the legend of the club go because they dont want to paid his salary, you are gonna for sure pass to history for doing that and also for sure lose the next elections.

[Huppercase]

Many accused Neymar of being greedy, many accused Mbappe of being greedy (quite rightly), but it looks like we have a champion: Messi.
What do you think of these numbers? This is absolutely Saudi Arabian level of payments and no adequate European club with non-corrupt management would ever sign such a contract.
Against the backdrop of these payments, Messi's tales of loyalty to the club look like a joke. He actually destroyed Barcelona, ​​which fell into a financial crisis (by the way, they still pay him) and currently lost Olmo due to financial problems.

I believe you are one of the most active football analyst in this board, you should know better about comparism. If they say Mbape was been greedy, then he iis because he is just an average player that got the opportunity to win World cup with his ego been up there when he wasn't there in the first, similar to Neymar but he was even better than Mbape in my opinion but Messi, common, all of the other players that you mentioned performances reduced the moment the left their original club but Messi still remain at the top.

Look at how Neymar is struggling with his foot with injuries since he left Barcelona, Mbape is struggling everyday and working hard to be there, look at how he was playing in the last El clasico but when Messi was in Barcelona, he was been a god to Real Madrid players and even after he left, he is still who he is, he is the American guy every celebrity want to hang out and see him entertain them, he is worth every Euro he is been paid in his entire career.

[mak013]

I can`t say that he had been justified for his pay(but i can`t say otherwise).

You now sounded like politicians in my country...hahaha. The two still mean the same thing and as for me, Messi justified all the pay.

But it is true I don`t think that someone except Barcelona top managers can say who got more from their "cooperation". And even they can`t separate Messi from the other squad and calculate correct. And we have to talk not only about money. It is football results, brand name, discounts for other transfers... I don`t think that Barcelona think that it was bad deal.

In this twit we see only one hand of the situation. Even if we remove football achievements and count only money - Barcelona got good money from Messi in the squad. Romano don`t write about it - in such way it wouldn`t be so bright twit.

I like that, Fabricio Romano only played a critic in that post, a reason best known to himself and perhaps his paymasters. I don't trust all these commentators, influencers and journalists, they also receive their paychecks one way or another, or do not just like the person of some persons of interest.

Such posts attract attention. I don`t think that someone would be interested if he wrote something like: "Messi got $1.000.000.000 salary for last contract, but Barcelona got summary profit from his brand $990.000.000(or $1.500.000.000, doesn`t matter)". Nobody will read or repost it.

[NotATether]

LOL!
Are you seriously incapable of counting? The total cost of those you listed is less than the cost of Messi alone. Have you ever heard of the cost/benefit ratio?
As was already written in the thread above after Xavi, Iniesta and other golden players left, Messi never led Barcelona to victory in the Champions League. Maybe it was worth looking for new Xavi/Iniesta (as Real did) than waste money on Messi?

It was the combined cost of all those players combined with the lack of revenue that took Barca down. PSG bought Neymar, Mbappe and then signed Messi on a free transfer and they haven't broken down like Barcelona did.

Even Chelsea signed 1 billion+ pounds worth of players in a few years, but they used some accounting shenanigans so they didn't experience that sort of crisis either.

[LGD2Business]

I saw somewhere recently that if Messi made 200 million in a year, Barca made 500 million from him. So there is no other investment with such a good return. That's why you need to evaluate this money in this way. I also don't understand why you feel the need to open a new topic over a tweet from years ago. If Barca's economy is bad, it's because the management has failed in other things. Messi was a very profitable and prestigious investment. He made the team top class. But when you look at the other transfers you can see how much money was spent for nothing. Some players were paid 8-10 times their value, both in transfer fees and wages.

[NotATether]

If Barca's economy is bad, it's because the management has failed in other things. Messi was a very profitable and prestigious investment.

Exactly.

In the end, Bartomeu could've rejected such a contract. He had the power to do so as the club president. But he didn't, and just let the sporting director do his thing. So the blame is squarely on him (and Laporta to some extent).

[boltz]

Prime Messi really deserved all of it in my opinion but the internal management of Barcelona have been so greedy in the last decade that it's actually them who brought Barcelona in the current situation they are in and by all means , they have financial problems but the team itself is doing great and that is a great sign for the club. I'm also thinking that during those times , it was actually Barcelona and the sponsors who kept pushing money into Messi's pockets as I can't see him asking for such crazy amounts but some stories will never see the surface for media to publish them 

[KTChampions]

If Barca's economy is bad, it's because the management has failed in other things. Messi was a very profitable and prestigious investment.

Exactly.

In the end, Bartomeu could've rejected such a contract. He had the power to do so as the club president. But he didn't, and just let the sporting director do his thing. So the blame is squarely on him (and Laporta to some extent).

100%. I have written several times that without the corrupt management of Barcelona such a contract would not have been possible. But there are always two sides to a deal, right?
Everyone stubbornly continues to ignore the discrepancy between Messi's image of "love for the club that saved him" and his real deeds