⚡⚡⚡Introducing Our New Provably Fair (Live) Roulette – Powered by Lightning!

[lnroulette]

[Perfectbaby]

Do you care to make your ANN looks presentable?
If yes! then I would suggest you have a copper member rank to display graphics on your thread, with this it would attract and drag more attention to your site. However, if there are any need for promotion such as marketing campaign do not hesitate to send personal messages to Little Mouse or AB De Royse777.

However, i am beginning to have interest in roulette game, otherwise I so much have passion for sport betting, plinko and crash game, though would try my best to follow up the site to see what you guys have about your games.

Good luck.

[Odusko]

Welcome your site loads we'll and fast, although I did not try the game because I have no intention of creating an account there at the moment, all the same, I like the fact that your website loads fast on mobile which means, players, can easily access the site while on mobile, I will like to ask if you have intentions of adding more game's in the future or you are just focusing on Roulette games only, are you using lightening network (LB) on your network?

[seoincorporation]

I would like to know more about your provably fair engine, how does It work? Does the user have its own user seed and can change It on each roll? Or the house has all the engine on its side?

Is hard to find provably Fair games nowadays so, a big +1 for your project.

Do you have any planes about adding more games?

[Perfectbaby]

Welcome your site loads we'll and fast, although I did not try the game because I have no intention of creating an account there at the moment, all the same, I like the fact that your website loads fast on mobile which means, players, can easily access the site while on mobile, I will like to ask if you have intentions of adding more game's in the future or you are just focusing on Roulette games only, are you using lightening network (LB) on your network?

They are using lightening network, and that is their main purpose so that gamers can make deposit and withdrawal as quickly as possible. Re-read the op to have the full details about their project. I really appreciate their immediate adjustment and the way they listened to my suggestions by quickly buying a copper membership rank. I believe they would have little mouse contacted for a better design of their Ann thread, maybe they can also negotiate about review campaign so that roulette lovers would keep trying out the sites to see their lapses so that they can quickly make adjustments. If they also adhered to running a campaign here then better it would give them the best exposure needed across the forum and this will be on a long run maybe 4-10 month duration can actually help them alot to get the minimum visibility across the community.

[Haunebu]

LN Roulette? Interesting. What is the house edge of your game op? If it's lower than the average, your site could draw in many gamblers over time. If it's equal to the average or higher, I don't see your site becoming successful.

Also, the site itself needs to add stuff like FAQ, contact section etc in order to make it more appealing since it's very barebones currently.

[AmoreJaz]

LN Roulette? Interesting. What is the house edge of your game op? If it's lower than the average, your site could draw in many gamblers over time. If it's equal to the average or higher, I don't see your site becoming successful.

Also, the site itself needs to add stuff like FAQ, contact section etc in order to make it more appealing since it's very barebones currently.

LN is not very popular to use among gamblers. Even if this network has been here for quite long already, many still prefer to use the regular bitcoin network because of its availability to most trading platforms. If LN will be available to crypto-exchanges, I believe the usage may increase. Also, a lot are still not familiar to use this network, hence, FAQ section is indeed needed for the users to learn how to utilize LN when they deposit or withdraw their funds.

[lnroulette]

I would like to know more about your provably fair engine, how does It work? Does the user have its own user seed and can change It on each roll? Or the house has all the engine on its side?

Is hard to find provably Fair games nowadays so, a big +1 for your project.

Do you have any planes about adding more games?

You can check here
https://stacker.news/items/836563/r/roulette?commentId=836837

LN Roulette? Interesting. What is the house edge of your game op? If it's lower than the average, your site could draw in many gamblers over time. If it's equal to the average or higher, I don't see your site becoming successful.

Also, the site itself needs to add stuff like FAQ, contact section etc in order to make it more appealing since it's very barebones currently.

Our house edge matches standard European roulette, which is around 2.7%—we aim to keep it fair and consistent with what players are used to. We totally agree about the site needing an FAQ and more content; those are definitely on our roadmap, and we appreciate the feedback! Stay tuned as we keep improving and refining LN Roulette.

Welcome your site loads we'll and fast, although I did not try the game because I have no intention of creating an account there at the moment, all the same, I like the fact that your website loads fast on mobile which means, players, can easily access the site while on mobile, I will like to ask if you have intentions of adding more game's in the future or you are just focusing on Roulette games only, are you using lightening network (LB) on your network?

They are using lightening network, and that is their main purpose so that gamers can make deposit and withdrawal as quickly as possible. Re-read the op to have the full details about their project. I really appreciate their immediate adjustment and the way they listened to my suggestions by quickly buying a copper membership rank. I believe they would have little mouse contacted for a better design of their Ann thread, maybe they can also negotiate about review campaign so that roulette lovers would keep trying out the sites to see their lapses so that they can quickly make adjustments. If they also adhered to running a campaign here then better it would give them the best exposure needed across the forum and this will be on a long run maybe 4-10 month duration can actually help them alot to get the minimum visibility across the community.

Thanks for the detailed feedback! We’re glad you appreciate our quick adjustments and listening to suggestions. We’re looking into improving our announcement thread and exploring review campaigns to boost visibility. Your support and ideas are really helpful. Thanks again!

— The LN Roulette Team

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[panjul07]

As far as I remember, you were the 3rd site came to this forum which bring roulette + LN network.
There were 2 other sites few years ago but seems that they were all failed to survive in the industry, so hope you can learn from the older similar sites as yours.
Looking at how your site looks site, it is quite similar to the one namely lightningroulette (still accessible but no longer active in this forum).
Are you inspired by them so you decided to create roulette site with the same concept (simple + LN network)?

[lnroulette]

For more information and ongoing discussions about LN Roulette, feel free to join our conversation here:

Stacker News Discussion
https://stacker.news/items/836563

If you continue to experience issues, please reach out to our support team for assistance.

Thanks!

— The LN Roulette Team

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Welcome your site loads we'll and fast, although I did not try the game because I have no intention of creating an account there at the moment, all the same, I like the fact that your website loads fast on mobile which means, players, can easily access the site while on mobile, I will like to ask if you have intentions of adding more game's in the future or you are just focusing on Roulette games only, are you using lightening network (LB) on your network?

From the title or name of this casino, I doubt they will be adding more games in the future, since the name of the casino is limiting.
I don't actually know very much about roulette, but I am believing this is just one game, like roulette is a name of a particular type of game and not a name for a series or group of games, like we know Slot games to be a general name for some type and group of games.

If the above be true, then adding more games that is outside roulette completely undermines what the name of the casino stands for and represents..

But well, this is just my personal thought, the owner of this casino may be thinking completely a different thing.
And yeah, lightning network is supported as we can see on the thread title.

[lnroulette]

Welcome your site loads we'll and fast, although I did not try the game because I have no intention of creating an account there at the moment, all the same, I like the fact that your website loads fast on mobile which means, players, can easily access the site while on mobile, I will like to ask if you have intentions of adding more game's in the future or you are just focusing on Roulette games only, are you using lightening network (LB) on your network?

From the title or name of this casino, I doubt they will be adding more games in the future, since the name of the casino is limiting.
I don't actually know very much about roulette, but I am believing this is just one game, like roulette is a name of a particular type of game and not a name for a series or group of games, like we know Slot games to be a general name for some type and group of games.

If the above be true, then adding more games that is outside roulette completely undermines what the name of the casino stands for and represents..

But well, this is just my personal thought, the owner of this casino may be thinking completely a different thing.
And yeah, lightning network is supported as we can see on the thread title.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! We designed LN Roulette specifically for the Bitcoin community, focusing on delivering a top-notch roulette experience rather than competing with traditional casinos that offer a variety of games. Our goal is to cater to Bitcoiners who appreciate the speed and transparency of the Lightning Network. While our current focus is solely on roulette, we're always open to feedback and might consider expanding in the future based on what our community wants. Appreciate your interest and support!

— The LN Roulette Team

[seoincorporation]

I would like to know more about your provably fair engine, how does It work? Does the user have its own user seed and can change It on each roll? Or the house has all the engine on its side?

Is hard to find provably Fair games nowadays so, a big +1 for your project.

Do you have any planes about adding more games?

You can check here
https://stacker.news/items/836563/r/roulette?commentId=836837

I Just take a look at the article, but you don't explain how the rollos are generate, you only mentioned they are provably Fair but there is no a technical explanation about how the spins works, and for me that is not provably fair at all.

Can you share with us the tech side behind each spin?

[Dunamisx]

Welcome your site loads we'll and fast, although I did not try the game because I have no intention of creating an account there at the moment, all the same, I like the fact that your website loads fast on mobile which means, players, can easily access the site while on mobile, I will like to ask if you have intentions of adding more game's in the future or you are just focusing on Roulette games only, are you using lightening network (LB) on your network?

Additionally to your comment as well as observation, there is nothing too much to do in a bid to improving the quality of service provided by the platform, which if they can take it a responsibility in trying to know other gamblers feedback on their sit through the introduction of a review campaign, this will at least help members to try the site and also give the necessary commendations over it.

[lnroulette]

I would like to know more about your provably fair engine, how does It work? Does the user have its own user seed and can change It on each roll? Or the house has all the engine on its side?

Is hard to find provably Fair games nowadays so, a big +1 for your project.

Do you have any planes about adding more games?

You can check here
https://stacker.news/items/836563/r/roulette?commentId=836837

I Just take a look at the article, but you don't explain how the rollos are generate, you only mentioned they are provably Fair but there is no a technical explanation about how the spins works, and for me that is not provably fair at all.

Can you share with us the tech side behind each spin?

Absolutely! Here’s how we do it:
Before each spin, we generate a random number (0..36) and a salt, then publish the SHA-256 hash of num:salt
After the spin, we reveal the salt, so you can re-hash the exact same num:salt combination.
If the hash matches what we published before the spin, you know the result couldn’t have been altered.

[seoincorporation]

Absolutely! Here’s how we do it:
Before each spin, we generate a random number (0..36) and a salt, then publish the SHA-256 hash of num:salt
After the spin, we reveal the salt, so you can re-hash the exact same num:salt combination.
If the hash matches what we published before the spin, you know the result couldn’t have been altered.

Then there is a problem with your provably fair engine because if you don't like the result you can select a new random number to mix it with that salt.

Let's say users are betting on 11, and your engine select a random number with the salt and the result of that gives 11, then you can try with another random number and get a number different than 11. The fact that you apply a random number to the provably fair engine is tricky because you can reroll that number until you get the desire result and then publish the sha-256.

For me, your engine isn't provably fair, sorry.

[ovcijisir]

I like the design of your page, minimalistic and simple. I plan to experiment with LN in near future and I'll definitely use your casino, considering roulette is, including dice, one of my favourite casino games.

[lnroulette]

Absolutely! Here’s how we do it:
Before each spin, we generate a random number (0..36) and a salt, then publish the SHA-256 hash of num:salt
After the spin, we reveal the salt, so you can re-hash the exact same num:salt combination.
If the hash matches what we published before the spin, you know the result couldn’t have been altered.

Then there is a problem with your provably fair engine because if you don't like the result you can select a new random number to mix it with that salt.

Let's say users are betting on 11, and your engine select a random number with the salt and the result of that gives 11, then you can try with another random number and get a number different than 11. The fact that you apply a random number to the provably fair engine is tricky because you can reroll that number until you get the desire result and then publish the sha-256.

For me, your engine isn't provably fair, sorry.

Absolutely! Here’s how we do it:
Before each spin, we generate a random number (0..36) and a salt, then publish the SHA-256 hash of num:salt
After the spin, we reveal the salt, so you can re-hash the exact same num:salt combination.
If the hash matches what we published before the spin, you know the result couldn’t have been altered.

Then there is a problem with your provably fair engine because if you don't like the result you can select a new random number to mix it with that salt.

Let's say users are betting on 11, and your engine select a random number with the salt and the result of that gives 11, then you can try with another random number and get a number different than 11. The fact that you apply a random number to the provably fair engine is tricky because you can reroll that number until you get the desire result and then publish the sha-256.

For me, your engine isn't provably fair, sorry.

Thanks for your thorough analysis! Let me clarify how our provably fair system works to ensure integrity:

Secure Salt Generation:
We use a 16-character hexadecimal salt (64 bits of entropy), making it virtually impossible to find another salt that produces the same SHA-256 hash. This level of security ensures that the salt cannot be manipulated to achieve a desired outcome.

Hash Commitment Before Bets:
We publish the hash of num:salt before any bets are placed. This means the outcome is locked in and cannot be altered based on the bets received. Once the hash is out there, we can't change the num or salt without invalidating the hash.

Immutable Results:
After the spin, we reveal the original salt, allowing anyone to verify that the hash matches the num:salt combination. This transparency ensures that the result was not tampered with after bets were placed.

Mathematical Impracticality of Manipulation:
Given the strength of SHA-256, attempting to find a different salt that results in the same hash is computationally infeasible. This makes it practically impossible to reroll the number to favor certain outcomes.

Security Assurance:
If anyone were to discover a way to manipulate the salt and hash to influence outcomes, we'd be very interested in learning about it and would gladly offer a bounty for such findings to further improve our system.
Our focus is on maintaining a fair and transparent gaming environment for Bitcoiners, leveraging the security of the Lightning Network and robust cryptographic practices. We appreciate your scrutiny and hope this clarifies our commitment to provably fair gaming!

— The LN Roulette Team

[Agbe]

Do you care to make your ANN looks presentable?
If yes! then I would suggest you have a copper member rank to display graphics on your thread, with this it would attract and drag more attention to your site. However, if there are any need for promotion such as marketing campaign do not hesitate to send personal messages to Little Mouse or AB De Royse777.

Don't be specific when mentioning managers to clients but make it general so the client can contact or the fast finger manager who contacted him first and has good terms with the client can with him. And all what the Op needs is to us a good design on the ANN thread by purchasing copper member and also meeting a manager for direction and guidance to make more attractive. Op you are welcome to the forum. Do well to obey the instructions of other users who have asked you to meet managers to possible advancement of either a campaign or other promotions.

[seoincorporation]

Thanks for your thorough analysis! Let me clarify how our provably fair system works to ensure integrity:

Secure Salt Generation:
We use a 16-character hexadecimal salt (64 bits of entropy), making it virtually impossible to find another salt that produces the same SHA-256 hash. This level of security ensures that the salt cannot be manipulated to achieve a desired outcome.

Hash Commitment Before Bets:
We publish the hash of num:salt before any bets are placed. This means the outcome is locked in and cannot be altered based on the bets received. Once the hash is out there, we can't change the num or salt without invalidating the hash.

Immutable Results:
After the spin, we reveal the original salt, allowing anyone to verify that the hash matches the num:salt combination. This transparency ensures that the result was not tampered with after bets were placed.

Mathematical Impracticality of Manipulation:
Given the strength of SHA-256, attempting to find a different salt that results in the same hash is computationally infeasible. This makes it practically impossible to reroll the number to favor certain outcomes.

Security Assurance:
If anyone were to discover a way to manipulate the salt and hash to influence outcomes, we'd be very interested in learning about it and would gladly offer a bounty for such findings to further improve our system.
Our focus is on maintaining a fair and transparent gaming environment for Bitcoiners, leveraging the security of the Lightning Network and robust cryptographic practices. We appreciate your scrutiny and hope this clarifies our commitment to provably fair gaming!

— The LN Roulette Team

The fact that you provide the hash of the next game before the bet makes it kind of fair, i mean, you can't modify the bet result after the roll has been done. But if we get back to my example where a high roller is betting on the number 11, the engine can select a number different than 11 and provide the hash of that bet for the next roll. And that's my concern the user isn't involved in the game result, all is on the house side, and that isn't cool at all.

But i understand it is that way because all the users bet on the same hash, is one roll for all, if users had their own rolls they could input a user seed.