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January 05, 2025, 12:11:58 PM |
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Where are these claims coming from and what basis does spirit have with economic activities, I have seen a lot of forks going to pray and doing all manner of religious activities on days that they were to be economically busy working, and the aftermath results of that is poverty lack and want, so money answers to one thing which is Force of demand once you don't have what demands money then you are not making any progress towards becoming wealthy. There is no empirically accessed and scientifically approved connotation between wealth and spirituality it's all a fantasy of believe within a set of people., I learned that some people kill fellow humans to perform some spiritual things to become wealthy, what a dumb belief.
It is better to uphold tolerance. Believe or not in someone's spiritualism, let him take his own path, if you do not have the capacity in a certain field of knowledge, do not judge with the word " dumb". To find genuine peace you need to first find yourself, find a state of mind in which you are one with yourself that's when you would be truly happy. Yes money is good and can make your life very easy but true happiness is when you are at peace with yourself. But in terms of earning money you must have to work very hard that's just it and there is no easy way out of this. Although I don't downplay anyone's believes. If you believe you must be spiritual to make it then that's fine but you can't take hardwork out of the equation.
This is what is meant by balance, everyone has the right to believe what for them leads to peace of mind in this world I believe there are entities that cannot be touched by the senses. Because besides working hard we must return to the point where what we are fighting for and let the final result determine. Be a reminder to yourself, a calmer of the mind and people pray according to their beliefs. Working hard to make money is proof that we believe in the process, it is necessary to underline the word "process" has a journey that involves many things.
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January 05, 2025, 01:17:55 PM |
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First, I want to ask you, what kind of being spiritual are you talking about? Secondly, do you mean that all the rich people in the world today were spiritual before they became rich? Another thing that I also want you to know is that there were people who became rich because they took and early advantage over something and they become rich. Take for example people that bought 10-100 Bitcoin when the price was nothing and they later sold the Bitcoin years later to establish themselves and had many more investment. Will you say they were spiritual?
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January 05, 2025, 01:33:37 PM |
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I don't have a opinion like you because there are many people who became successful because they did effort for their success and how could you say that Elon Musk is thinking like a spiritually . Because that kind of taking is like a just silly. And every body could not become wealthy person and every person don't want to be because that is who will do hard work will get his goal. Money is not everything in life and with less money we could also enjoy our life and we can get success and we could have nice family. That is true life and if you are rich person but your life don't love you and then what you will do . I think you will suicide and that is bitter reality of life . So everyone is different and they should choose their goals but Elon musk should be not goal to be .
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January 05, 2025, 01:58:28 PM |
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I am glad that you brought up the topic of 'spirituality'. I do not think I will ever get a chance like that to express my opinions regarding spirituality. Having said that please do not read afterward if you are not open-minded as you could be offended easily by the logic and rationality  . What is spirituality?It is a debris of institutionalized religion. As we are evolving biologically we are evolving sociologically as well. Religion as a social institution is also evolving and taking the form of spirituality. It can not trap a ration mind of the 21st century by showing the fear of hell or the goodness of heaven therefore now it is arguing for something more subtle by using phrases like; mind over matter, oneness with the universe, transcendental experience, quoting serious science wrongly, etc. IMO spirituality consists of three steps (beliefs); 1. There is something beyond this material world. 2. It (which is beyond the material world) can not be comprehended by logic and rationality (you have to experience it  ). 3. Now comes the final part of the act; A guru (spiritualist) will tell you that I can show you how to achieve that just believe me without question. Or a more sophisticated spiritualist will try to give you logic by using pseudo-science or quoting serious science totally wrong just to appeal to your common sense.
There is a funny theme in your long post. You are arguing that material wealth is more important because you want to become spiritual to gain material wealth. 
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January 05, 2025, 02:11:37 PM |
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I believe there's no shortcut to wealthiness, that's why it's said that nothing good comes easy. You can't tie achieving wealths to spirituality because even the Elon Musk in question doesn't seem believe in that. Elon Musk is a business entrepreneur and scientifically open minded to technology and investment. Being reminded that scientifically what's not seems or felt physically doesn't exist, then you should know that spiritual as an invisible World doesn't also seem believable to such entrepreneur as Elon Musk. We all sees his inventions and source of wealth being achieved in reality which means spirituality has nothing to do with it. As simple as that, to be wealthy and unlimited in life requires your valuable resources to be invested and when you acquire those wealths, you'd have to invest more to keep increasing your portfolio. That's simply how we may assume unlimited wealths.
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if you want to be a billionaire...then you need to be more spirituality minded. People like Elon Musk don't focus on money or material things they seeking the light the spiritual enlightment that's why they get wealthy. 2025 Will be specially time when people who don't seek spiritual enlightment will be suffering for them they start losing wealth only. Everybody want to be rich and wealthy and live good life but nobody don't want to focus mind and spirit becouse mind over matter creates things not matter over mind. Many people suffering hard now because they not spiritual and it's getting more bad and bad it's good it wakens them up. Everybody who is super wealthy and live dream life it's only becouse they have spirit first. So If you not the spiritual forget about yachts and other Luxury u don't get it, one way to get spiritual is to experince different experinces also struggles because struggles will wakens you and making your mind and soul strong. Im glad that many people start struggling now  because they don't want to be interested of spiritual things,YOU PEOPLE WATCH RATHER SOME DULL TV SHOWS instead of Notre dame paris opening it was important event even donald trump Went there people who not interested of this things no wondering why you suffering. Get your spiritual mindset right and all the money comes and will be surrounded with other right minded people. Yes 2025 is the judgement time those who not interested of spiritual things and only belive in physical things they will suffering hard Forget about your dreams getting super rich it's only for good people who spiritually good and they can't just do good for not spiritual people who only think about low life things. Yeah, what a load of bollocks. Elon was absolutely focused on earning money in his first venture with Paypal and happened to be in the right place with a stack of borrowed money that he could invest in it. After that Paypal grew to the level of Visa and Mastercard - it was absolutely rolling in money which has helped fund everything else Musk has done ever since. Sure he smokes a bit of weed which probably offers some form of "enlightenment" but he has a ruthless business mind as well. There's no doubt that plenty of these business people find spiritualism after they have conquered and cashed out, because they have acquired the financial freedom to do whatever they want. It's so weird that you think the Notre Dame Paris opening was some pinnacle of spiritual awakening.
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January 05, 2025, 09:30:43 PM |
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Where are these claims coming from and what basis does spirit have with economic activities, I have seen a lot of forks going to pray and doing all manner of religious activities on days that they were to be economically busy working, and the aftermath results of that is poverty lack and want, so money answers to one thing which is Force of demand once you don't have what demands money then you are not making any progress towards becoming wealthy. There is no empirically accessed and scientifically approved connotation between wealth and spirituality it's all a fantasy of believe within a set of people., I learned that some people kill fellow humans to perform some spiritual things to become wealthy, what a dumb belief.
It is better to uphold tolerance. Believe or not in someone's spiritualism, let him take his own path, if you do not have the capacity in a certain field of knowledge, do not judge with the word " dumb". Sorry man if my choice of words sounds offensive to you, I don't mean to talk down on any one beliefs and my tone may have been affected, by the anger generated by the so-called religious deceptions in our modern society, most people have taken religion spirituality to exchange it with hard smart work, some in my country pray and believe that miracle money goes into their pockets and bank account, they believe a certain spirit will accumulate wealth money call miracle money, this ideology can only make people lazy because the only to build wealth is through hard work, I know and believe in God but not in religion spirituality but I respect people that believe in that also which is why I apologize for my use of words.
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Sorry man if my choice of words sounds offensive to you, I don't mean to talk down on any one beliefs and my tone may have been affected, by the anger generated by the so-called religious deceptions in our modern society, most people have taken religion spirituality to exchange it with hard smart work, some in my country pray and believe that miracle money goes into their pockets and bank account, they believe a certain spirit will accumulate wealth money call miracle money, this ideology can only make people lazy because the only to build wealth is through hard work, I know and believe in God but not in religion spirituality but I respect people that believe in that also which is why I apologize for my use of words.
It doesn't matter because in some contexts I also agree about using religion as an excuse for someone to be lazy to work. Money doesn't fall suddenly from the sky, there is no such thing as magic money, there is a kind of defection that some people do to take advantage of excessive belief so that it deviates from the pure purpose of spiritualism, we need to try, pursue desires, develop and not always beg for gifts from others. That way we will focus more on a more reasonable realm. Imao, OP is a little wrong in conveying the context so that there is a clash between the essence of existentialism and spiritualism.
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Elon reinvested profits back into business and managed to successfully leverage government subsidy's available for various massive projects like the idea of electric cars being feasible nationally. I never understood that investment case till I heard he gets paid extra from every other car maker by law, he was counting on that all along and it helps alot.
I dont blame Elon at all but a large part of it was reading politics and the bonuses it was handing out. The divestment away from purely NASA was probably a similar thing and again kudos for getting the tech right and the management of that supply to meet a stated demand. His greatest advantage might be he was already rich so its just business as usual except with more zeros that allow all the massive projects to be financed.
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Frankly, I can’t help it but find this absolutely hilarious. So, according to this you said Elon Musk is a billionaire because he is seeking the light  and not material things? Sure, because launching rockets and making electric cars screams spiritual enlightenment over business acumen and innovation, I mean come on. And 2025 as judgment time it just feels like every year someone declares the apocalypse for people who enjoy Netflix instead of meditating at Notre Dameor elsewhere. Perhaps by this logic, my dream yacht is one deep breath and a candle-lit mantra away? I mean sure, struggles can teach valuable lessons, but laughing my way through this kind of advice might just be my favorite spiritual practice yet. Don’t take all of this personal, I also have some moments where things are so down for me and I’m just down for anything spiritually or emotionally helpful in my state. It’s just the difference between us is the belief of such things might only help you in a different way rather than getting you a real solution or result if you don’t actually work yourself out.
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if you want to be a billionaire...then you need to be more spirituality minded. People like Elon Musk don't focus on money or material things they seeking the light the spiritual enlightment that's why they get wealthy. 2025 Will be specially time when people who don't seek spiritual enlightment will be suffering for them they start losing wealth only. Everybody want to be rich and wealthy and live good life but nobody don't want to focus mind and spirit becouse mind over matter creates things not matter over mind. Many people suffering hard now because they not spiritual and it's getting more bad and bad it's good it wakens them up. Everybody who is super wealthy and live dream life it's only becouse they have spirit first. So If you not the spiritual forget about yachts and other Luxury u don't get it, one way to get spiritual is to experince different experinces also struggles because struggles will wakens you and making your mind and soul strong. Im glad that many people start struggling now  because they don't want to be interested of spiritual things,YOU PEOPLE WATCH RATHER SOME DULL TV SHOWS instead of Notre dame paris opening it was important event even donald trump Went there people who not interested of this things no wondering why you suffering. Get your spiritual mindset right and all the money comes and will be surrounded with other right minded people. Yes 2025 is the judgement time those who not interested of spiritual things and only belive in physical things they will suffering hard Forget about your dreams getting super rich it's only for good people who spiritually good and they can't just do good for not spiritual people who only think about low life things. Spiritual development and the pursuit of wealth are mutually exclusive things. When a rich person portrays spirituality, it's just posturing. Would he think about spiritual things if he became poor? No. Indeed, a spiritual person is not interested in wealth at all. He may even give it up. The most famous example of renouncing wealth is the Buddha. There is a lesser-known example - Al Ghazali. I can give even more examples of the rejection of the wealth of spiritually developed people. Moreover, these are irrefutable examples, as well as those that I have indicated.
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if you want to be a billionaire...then you need to be more spirituality minded. People like Elon Musk don't focus on money or material things they seeking the light the spiritual enlightment that's why they get wealthy.
I know so many people in my immediate environment that are seriously spiritually minded, and when I say spirituality minded I mean, they attend church services like the Lord is coming the next evening, yet they're no where near millionaires not to talk of being billionaires. Let me tell you something you're missing. There a price difference for being spiritually woke from being some business owner who solves problems or creates solutions to a dire problem on the society. If you want to be billionaire in the nearest future then think of a making a product or service that solves a problem of the world. This has nothing to do with your spirituality my friend!
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more like focusing on a goal and trying to solve a problem will give you wealth instead of being spiritually ready. I don't even understand what spritually ready means, there's so many meaning out there, none of them can really describe what it is.
Its name says it all. It is like having some basic actions related to spiritual like knowing how to pray and stuffs. This is possible to do everyday or every night before and after we start our other goals in life. There is also Sunday, which is a known time to do spiritual activities. We still can do it on other days or on our rest days if we have a duty on Sunday. I know for sure that if you're trying to solve a problem no one else can, adding value to society through your solution, like how elon musk making space exploration cheaper, or how other billionaires are doing, which is leveraging on their solution to create big business, you'd find wealth. there's reason why those big ventures offering big chunk of investment to a company that actually solve problem regardless of the founder's spiritual readiness.
To provide solution must be their priority and not really the money but it is just that they need money in order to build the resources that they will be using on their project. They are lucky that there is also those investors that you said that are willing to lend their money to these people in hopes of getting more returns.
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if you want to be a billionaire...then you need to be more spirituality minded. People like Elon Musk don't focus on money or material things they seeking the light the spiritual enlightment that's why they get wealthy.
It seems you are very close to Elon Musk or should have said you are his PA to know him that much about his spirituality. You are capping man, stop misleading people. Are you saying someone that bought $10k worth of Bitcoin in 2010 and still holding till date and has never been spiritual but believe only in the scarcity of Bitcoin to give it through value, what do you have to say about it? Are you implying that Blackrock and Microstrategy are spiritual, wake up buddy! Been spiritual is within the mind and what you have to do on your mind. It doesn't reflect your outside life. You can be spiritual and be clean but it doesn't brings any wealth to you. Haven't you seen a shamans? How poor looking they are, very hard working and yet they have nothing to their names other than just their normal life, the rich people on forbe list are all spiritual? The people that stole from crimes and became wealthy are spiritual I think.  If galacitc federation the space brothers or GOD see that it's not right then wealth will be destroyed. People who don't know how to behave in this world should ask me i'll explain what god want
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There are principles to making wealth and spiritual awakening isn't one of them. How many of the successful business men are spiritually inclined? It takes a simple law of the universe to attract wealth and that's putting in the work and having the right mindset. Spirituality has it's own effects and how it works but in terms of making money and becoming successful there are other principles you must follow. Most people that believe that there's some spiritual things to do in order to attract wealth are mostly Africans, the white man doesn't believe in any of that, just hard work can get you there.
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There are principles to making wealth and spiritual awakening isn't one of them. How many of the successful business men are spiritually inclined? It takes a simple law of the universe to attract wealth and that's putting in the work and having the right mindset. Spirituality has it's own effects and how it works but in terms of making money and becoming successful there are other principles you must follow. Most people that believe that there's some spiritual things to do in order to attract wealth are mostly Africans, the white man doesn't believe in any of that, just hard work can get you there.
People like elon or trump don't care about money Only they have bigger spirirt inside People whos not good people can't never stay Rich yes temporary but not for long
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if you want to be a billionaire...then you need to be more spirituality minded. People like Elon Musk don't focus on money or material things they seeking the light the spiritual enlightment that's why they get wealthy.
Elon Musk sees himself as a genius who is different in one way or another, and it can be said that through his old and new projects, he seeks to prove his superiority. This high ego is what made his investment ambitions turn into something like a plan or agenda that leads to specific goals that go beyond the profitable nature of everything that is an investment. Elon Musk lost a large part of his fortune due to the Twitter deal, but he did not back down from it, and the platform is still under his management without achieving any returns compared to the size of the losses, and it does not seem that Twitter's situation will improve soon. Therefore, the entire step raises doubts, as how can a successful investor lead a failed project that does not generate profits. The only explanation is in the conspiracy theory that does not include Elon Musk's ambitions alone, but rather works according to an integrated system, so that Twitter turns from a mere huge investment project into a tool for controlling minds. I spoke here about Twitter as a clear example, but the same vision applies to the rest of Elon Musk's projects that do not generate any profits literally, and still require huge financial support over a long period of time. I am not a believer in the conspiracy theory as it is promoted, but what I see is really suspicious and leaves no room for continuing to think according to the same approach, because what is happening cannot be arbitrary or a mere coincidence, and this has been confirmed in the marriage of the alliance between money and politics through Musk's relationship with Trump.
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Im glad that many people start struggling now  because they don't want to be interested of spiritual things,YOU PEOPLE WATCH RATHER SOME DULL TV SHOWS instead of Notre dame paris opening it was important event even donald trump Went there people who not interested of this things no wondering why you suffering. Get your spiritual mindset right and all the money comes and will be surrounded with other right minded people. Yes 2025 is the judgement time those who not interested of spiritual things and only belive in physical things they will suffering hard Forget about your dreams getting super rich it's only for good people who spiritually good and they can't just do good for not spiritual people who only think about low life things. Wealth is not always a measure of happiness although wealth is an important thing in living life. Talking spiritually contains a lot of meaning about peace and unfortunately we don't see it as a step that we can achieve in an easier way. We live filled with thoughts of becoming richer and that is not wrong but sometimes we ignore the spirituality of a much simpler life. There are many rich people who commit suicide and there are also poor people who starve to death, that is just a part of the example that we might see as an effort to achieve the life we want, but actually we need to live in a calmer way without thinking about something excessive. It is better to live with simplicity because even though we are not rich in wealth but have a much better life. This is not about being pessimistic but rather how people can balance spirituality, spirituality or other happiness related to money. Try to see how life used to be before everything became like this, are we faced with the fear of living in simplicity or is it even more frightening like now.
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Being unethical and have no morals could be the most "spiritual" part of being unlimited rich. People who have 100+ billion networth all have some skeleton in their closet, and most people admire those rich folk but if you research them a lot, you will realize that they have done (most of them) something terrible to get there.
I do not want to name names, because unfortunately there are a lot of people who admire these rich people and attack you if you say anything negative about them, but look at forbes list and research their names and you will see that most of them did something unethical to get there. Sometimes even as far as illegal, but most of the time it is not illegal, it is just about how they use the legal loopholes, to either pay less taxes, or pay their workers less as well.
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Being happy or not depends entirely on a person's satisfaction. If a person is not happy with what he has, then he will not be able to bring happiness with all the wealth he has. On the other hand, if his financial condition is bad but he feels happy on his own, then he is the happiest person. If a person is knowledgeable and hardworking, he can certainly become the owner of more wealth. But there are many people who only look at the wealth of others but do not put any effort into it themselves, and for them there is no chance of becoming wealthy. Elon Musk has always been involved in new technology. That is why it is easiest for him to become rich.
We cannot all be rich because not everyone can use their hard work and talent equally. But if we try to be happy with what we have ourselves, then we will all be the happiest person in the world.
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