GreedyBoy
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April 06, 2014, 07:29:38 PM |
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why aren't the buyers protected with bitcoin purchases?
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Once a transaction has 6 confirmations, it is extremely unlikely that an attacker without at least 50% of the network's computation power would be able to reverse it.
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moni3z
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April 06, 2014, 08:37:21 PM Last edit: April 06, 2014, 09:33:34 PM by moni3z |
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You can't put in any 3rd party payment instructions inside ebay listings that get around paypal, since they offer no buyer protection. True, ebay could if they wanted create a bitcoin escrow system but of course they won't since they'd rather hang on to their monopoly on payments.
What you can do is run ebay ads instead of auctions that link to your 3rd party website and sell your miners there for bitcoins. I wouldn't in a million years accept paypal for a bitcoin miner. A machine that churns out basically money is going to be the #1 scammed item and there's criminal forums that sell drops for ebay by the hundreds. Not only that but there's amateur scammer methods to reverse a paypal transaction such as claiming your kid authorized the transaction while you were out of the room, and didn't even realize anything happened until the Asic showed up to your doorstop. Of course you will "promise" to return the item, but in the meantime they will reverse the transaction and seller is fucked.
You can also drop hints in regular listing about bitcoin related things that you have miners for sale offsite, be creative, write an ebook how to mine for bitcoins and fill it with links to your site to actually get the miners.
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leopard2
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April 06, 2014, 09:16:05 PM |
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you could put a BTC address in there "payment accepted via 1xxxx..." they can hardly filter that can they? too many addresses possible :-) But really I am not surprised, Painpal is a criminal org, and part of the Ebay empire, of course they are against bitcoin, bitcoin makes Painpal obsolete, and Painpal only exists because wire transfers are so expensive in the US die Painpal die
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david123
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April 06, 2014, 09:19:06 PM |
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die Painpal die +1
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April 06, 2014, 09:20:42 PM |
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you could put a BTC address in there "payment accepted via 1xxxx..." they can hardly filter that can they? too many addresses possible :-) But really I am not surprised, Painpal is a criminal org, and part of the Ebay empire, of course they are against bitcoin, bitcoin makes Painpal obsolete, and Painpal only exists because wire transfers are so expensive in the US die Painpal die Or just : "If interested: 1xxxxx"
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7Priest7
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April 07, 2014, 12:54:13 AM |
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But really I am not surprised, Painpal is a criminal org, and part of the Ebay empire, of course they are against bitcoin, bitcoin makes Painpal obsolete, and Painpal only exists because wire transfers are so expensive in the US
I disagree, Paypal has buyer protection and no fees for buyers. Buying something safely online with bitcoin is a nightmare. Buying bitcoin with fiat is a nightmare, and a extra step to just buying the desired item with the same fiat. Mining bitcoin is a nightmare. Selling products for bitcoin is a nightmare. Much has to be done for BTC before it will be anything more. Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of BTC. I just happen to live in the real world with the real problems bitcoin has.
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giletto
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April 07, 2014, 05:28:49 AM |
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But really I am not surprised, Painpal is a criminal org, and part of the Ebay empire, of course they are against bitcoin, bitcoin makes Painpal obsolete, and Painpal only exists because wire transfers are so expensive in the US
I disagree, Paypal has buyer protection and no fees for buyers. Because dreamer like you is still possible, that scammer can use this crap service. Easy to cancel the alleged "buyer protection". And what you think who pay the fee really, the seller or the buyer?
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bryant.coleman
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April 07, 2014, 05:52:02 AM |
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With Ebay adding the new crypto section on their website, I expect them to reinstate the deleted Ebay account. Have you mailed to them recently?
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Equate
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April 07, 2014, 05:53:22 AM |
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ebay sucks just same as paypal
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giletto
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April 07, 2014, 05:59:03 AM |
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you could put a BTC address in there "payment accepted via 1xxxx..." they can hardly filter that can they? too many addresses possible :-) But really I am not surprised, Painpal is a criminal org, and part of the Ebay empire, of course they are against bitcoin, bitcoin makes Painpal obsolete, and Painpal only exists because wire transfers are so expensive in the US die Painpal die Ebay dosn't filter anything like Bitcoin and even don't delete after about a word filter. If so, you would not be able to place the auction, because the word filter work BEFORE you place your auction, not after. All auction which got deleted after place, get reported from other seller/bidder.
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bryant.coleman
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April 07, 2014, 06:03:22 AM |
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ebay sucks just same as paypal
Have you forgot that both are owned by the same people? On October 3, 2002, PayPal became a wholly owned subsidiary of eBay. Paypal was doing just fine, until that fagg0t Persian Pierre Omidyar brought it.
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7Priest7
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April 09, 2014, 01:55:11 AM |
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Because dreamer like you is still possible, that scammer can use this crap service. Easy to cancel the alleged "buyer protection". And what you think who pay the fee really, the seller or the buyer?
Your english is very hard to read. I don't sell things. I know the merchants pay the fee and I feel that is how it should be. They are in business to make money while I am just trying to buy a product. They probably adjust their price for the fees, eBay still has the most competitive pricing anywhere. I appreciate that eBay/PayPal have such strong buyer protections. The internet has many scams and I've had to open cases against scammers more than once. It is nice to know that if some merchant uses false advertising I can get my money back.
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April 09, 2014, 04:48:48 AM |
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I don't like Ebay but this is within there rules and it's a reasonable rule considering they own PayPal and they aren't allowing other options since they are within the limit.
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April 09, 2014, 07:47:19 AM |
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April 09, 2014, 08:10:09 AM |
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i think they should accept BTC also why? is it also a good payment method but i assume they are not
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7Priest7
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April 09, 2014, 10:34:48 PM |
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Bitcoin as a payment sees them getting possibly less fees. Allowing people to sell crypto sees them making money from those sales. Simple business logic, Do what is profitable, ban what is not.
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April 09, 2014, 10:39:26 PM |
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lack of buyer protection is a reason.
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April 30, 2014, 06:47:00 PM Last edit: May 01, 2014, 02:36:20 PM by Meuh6879 |
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You can add the FRENCH ebay that it deletes all items that it "proposes" the bitcoin as a payment ... the nature of material is not incriminate (i don't sell bitcoin material, it's to sell somes clothes). Since 1 month, i have added "you can pay with bitcoin if you want" (at the end of the item in normal font). So, now ... yes, in europe too, you can't use eBay with bitcoin (like cash...). not a surprise for me (I have read all thread about ban paypal/ebay).
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Bitcoinpro
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April 30, 2014, 07:00:37 PM |
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dosn't sound right as long as you give the buyer the other standard option's with normal auction sites I though it was ok to offer things like swaps for other products check out if swaps with not currency property is ok then I think you would be covered ""provide us with a screen print please of their message all we can see is action ending as per normal""
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April 30, 2014, 07:06:47 PM |
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thats what i though thats why ive asked for a screen print of their message
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