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January 18, 2025, 05:57:05 PM
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Hi everyone!

I finished some project, it took me several months earlier but several years of partial (painful) work.

It's a software, that listens to binance sockets, does some aggregation, applies filters, etc., etc.

The main idea was to detect impulse patterns, that lead price to grow. I tried different approaches, failed millions times.

The best working solution worked great during bull run, but terrible on bear market.

However, the latest variant seems to be really promising. I also ran backests for several years on trading data, according to it, successful entry points prevailed significantly.

Currently entry points in real time (minus telegram delays) shows here https://t.me/ValleyOfGoldenDreams

I have some ideas about monetization, but firstly I'd like to get some feedback:

Do you find my signals working or think they have any issues?
What should I change in telegram messages to make your experience better?
Do you trade in Binance or would prefer other platforms? Spot or Futures or something else?
Would you use the signals now for trading? If so, It would be great to share real results.
Would you pay for access signals earlier or for something else?
Also, If you have any ideas to share, feel free to message me.

Oh, and if you decide to trade with the signals, I don't mind, but there no guarantee, sometimes they fail and you should do it for your own risk.

Have a great day, all of you
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January 18, 2025, 08:10:19 PM
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Hi everyone!

I finished some project, it took me several months earlier but several years of partial (painful) work.

It's a software, that listens to binance sockets, does some aggregation, applies filters, etc., etc.

The main idea was to detect impulse patterns, that lead price to grow. I tried different approaches, failed millions times.

The best working solution worked great during bull run, but terrible on bear market.

However, the latest variant seems to be really promising. I also ran backests for several years on trading data, according to it, successful entry points prevailed significantly.

Currently entry points in real time (minus telegram delays) shows here https://t.me/ValleyOfGoldenDreams

I have some ideas about monetization, but firstly I'd like to get some feedback:

Do you find my signals working or think they have any issues?
What should I change in telegram messages to make your experience better?
Do you trade in Binance or would prefer other platforms? Spot or Futures or something else?
Would you use the signals now for trading? If so, It would be great to share real results.
Would you pay for access signals earlier or for something else?
Also, If you have any ideas to share, feel free to message me.

Oh, and if you decide to trade with the signals, I don't mind, but there no guarantee, sometimes they fail and you should do it for your own risk.

Have a great day, all of you

looks promising , but i think it's more usefull for futures trading ( not for spot trading because the ROI it's small ,most the trades profit are 1%)
also i noticed there is no stop-loss !
keep it in binance because it's the large exchange , most of traders use it
my advice is to try this software on paper-trading in tradingview , and try it for 1 month , and share the results in your telegram channel,
if it work and make nice profits and fews loss.. a lot of people will like to join you and even pay you for the signals.
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January 19, 2025, 12:16:49 PM
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Thank you!

I'll definitely try trading view, that's a great idea.

Futures and other platforms are planned, but I don't know yet what to do first. It takes significant amount of time to gather data, analyze, tune, backtest etc. But I also think futures and Binance might be the better choice. However, Binance is banned in some countries, and it makes me doubt a bit.

Also right, it might be a good idea to add some borders (say +1% and -0.5%) and tried a backetest at least.
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January 19, 2025, 09:01:55 PM
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...Do you find my signals working or think they have any issues?...

As I understand it, you want us to test your software and provide you with feedback, but we have to do this work for free for you. I don't think anyone will agree to do this job for free, especially since it's very easy to lose your money in the process of testing signals.

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January 20, 2025, 02:39:46 AM
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Hi everyone!

I finished some project, it took me several months earlier but several years of partial (painful) work.

It's a software, that listens to binance sockets, does some aggregation, applies filters, etc., etc.

The main idea was to detect impulse patterns, that lead price to grow. I tried different approaches, failed millions times.

The best working solution worked great during bull run, but terrible on bear market.

However, the latest variant seems to be really promising. I also ran backests for several years on trading data, according to it, successful entry points prevailed significantly.

Currently entry points in real time (minus telegram delays) shows here https://t.me/ValleyOfGoldenDreams

I have some ideas about monetization, but firstly I'd like to get some feedback:

Do you find my signals working or think they have any issues?
What should I change in telegram messages to make your experience better?
Do you trade in Binance or would prefer other platforms? Spot or Futures or something else?
Would you use the signals now for trading? If so, It would be great to share real results.
Would you pay for access signals earlier or for something else?
Also, If you have any ideas to share, feel free to message me.

Oh, and if you decide to trade with the signals, I don't mind, but there no guarantee, sometimes they fail and you should do it for your own risk.

Have a great day, all of you
it need time to check or given feedback and I don't this user can try for free. I think, you need pay it to do that bro
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January 20, 2025, 06:37:43 AM
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Thank you!

I'll definitely try trading view, that's a great idea.

Futures and other platforms are planned, but I don't know yet what to do first. It takes significant amount of time to gather data, analyze, tune, backtest etc. But I also think futures and Binance might be the better choice. However, Binance is banned in some countries, and it makes me doubt a bit.

Also right, it might be a good idea to add some borders (say +1% and -0.5%) and tried a backetest at least.

i have question if you dont mind .. do you quant analysis ? python .. !
and if you do .. where i can learn those things !
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January 20, 2025, 08:07:14 AM
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...Do you find my signals working or think they have any issues?...

As I understand it, you want us to test your software and provide you with feedback, but we have to do this work for free for you. I don't think anyone will agree to do this job for free, especially since it's very easy to lose your money in the process of testing signals.

At least there is a link to the work of the software, though..
But it seems like more of short-time trading or even scalping, seeing the prices at which it enters and goes out of the positions.
I agree - it's not a free piece of cake to make such actions  Wink

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January 20, 2025, 08:23:46 AM
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Signals will never work for people. And honestly, you're looking at a bad reputation down the line. People want guaranteed signals (which doesn't exist). But you know what will make you money, and not make people mad?

Sell membership to this group. And hold regular live classes of showing them how to do this themselves. As in how to install, how to connect and use your software

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that listens to binance sockets, does some aggregation, applies filters

I bet you if you google this, not many good resource. It took you many painful years to do this, why not teach people?

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i have question if you dont mind .. do you quant analysis ? python .. !
and if you do .. where i can learn those things !

I use Golang since I need concurrency (to process websockets as fast is possible) and have to utilize all the CPUs cores with business-logic. A better choice could be C++, but "life is too short for C++" Smiley

Python is good when you start programming or need to implement and debug difficult algorithm etc. It's great when you want to write code fast, but not that good when you need high speed/performance.

As for learning, IMHO, you should learn Python and use official Python library for Binance. Trade by yourself and experiment with automatization. Then add more and more complex logic to your code.

And don't trust to any analytics (especially the ones that wish to make you rich) and don't take technical indicators too seriously.



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As I understand it, you want us to test your software and provide you with feedback, but we have to do this work for free for you. I don't think anyone will agree to do this job for free, especially since it's very easy to lose your money in the process of testing signals.

Noo, I am not going to give software to anyone Smiley

At least, I do not know at the moment, if people need some software - I don't think any of you would be happy to install a black box program to your computer.

That's one of the questions, though, I'd like to know when I started this topic. What would you consider to be the best way to deliver signals?

When I send signals through Telegram, I have two bottlenecks:
1. Telegram sends signals with delay, depending on your location and telegram data-center. Delay may take up to 19 sec. So some people will get signals earlier, which is not rightfully. So it's not suitable for HFT.
2. I am not sure that many people use Telegram.

Actually, at the moment I am not sure there to go next.
My plans currently:
1. Test real trades (finishing some preparations, hope to start tomorrow)
2. Learn things about trading view integration and connect software to it.
3. Process Futures, in progress, that wouldn't be fast.

Also, you may say that signals bad in some way and I will have to work on it further.



...Do you find my signals working or think they have any issues?...

As I understand it, you want us to test your software and provide you with feedback, but we have to do this work for free for you. I don't think anyone will agree to do this job for free, especially since it's very easy to lose your money in the process of testing signals.

At least there is a link to the work of the software, though..
But it seems like more of short-time trading or even scalping, seeing the prices at which it enters and goes out of the positions.
I agree - it's not a free piece of cake to make such actions  Wink

Well, scalping might be the best description for the software. I have no idea what may happen in an hour or later, but when I see an impulse at he moment I may try to predict grow in several minutes, and statistically it works at the moment.

However, I did not ever think about hiring traders as testers, but now I think it's an interesting concept. I have to find a way to ensure that they really tested, though.



Signals will never work for people. And honestly, you're looking at a bad reputation down the line. People want guaranteed signals (which doesn't exist). But you know what will make you money, and not make people mad?

Sell membership to this group. And hold regular live classes of showing them how to do this themselves. As in how to install, how to connect and use your software

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that listens to binance sockets, does some aggregation, applies filters

I bet you if you google this, not many good resource. It took you many painful years to do this, why not teach people?

Signals will never work for people. And honestly, you're looking at a bad reputation down the line. People want guaranteed signals (which doesn't exist). But you know what will make you money, and not make people mad?

Sell membership to this group. And hold regular live classes of showing them how to do this themselves. As in how to install, how to connect and use your software

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that listens to binance sockets, does some aggregation, applies filters

I bet you if you google this, not many good resource. It took you many painful years to do this, why not teach people?

I am not sure many people want to learn.. Most people want to get ready solution, and it is sad. Anyway, it's a nice approach and deserves to be carefully examined.

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January 21, 2025, 10:39:55 AM
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Sell membership to this group. And hold regular live classes of showing them how to do this themselves. As in how to install, how to connect and use your software

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that listens to binance sockets, does some aggregation, applies filters

I bet you if you google this, not many good resource. It took you many painful years to do this, why not teach people?

I am not sure many people want to learn.. Most people want to get ready solution, and it is sad. Anyway, it's a nice approach and deserves to be carefully examined.
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True. But if you have a product that is unique, and personally I think selling the skills and lessons to do this, I mean, I even still don't know how to use APIs on exchanges, I gave that up with forex long ago.

If you get just a few people willing to pay to learn, and subscribe to keep learning, it's more sustainable, and you gain a reputation.

That's still to me better than selling signals that won't work eventually. GL anyway tho Smiley

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January 21, 2025, 07:16:32 PM
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...However, I did not ever think about hiring traders as testers, but now I think it's an interesting concept. I have to find a way to ensure that they really tested, though.

I think it won't be difficult to check the tester's work if he attaches screenshots from the exchange with his orders, which will be opened in accordance with the provided signals in telegram.

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January 25, 2025, 05:50:18 AM
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I am not sure many people want to learn.. Most people want to get ready solution, and it is sad. Anyway, it's a nice approach and deserves to be carefully examined.
Maybe you're looking at the wrong place. Based on my experience on this forum and other social media, most people believe signal is a bad product for most people. Some influencers stop sharing signals because people found out they're doing pump & dump in the end. On the other hand, people seem to think that a trading tool that they can modify or have a good algorithm for is a better product, although most of them still fail to understand that a trading bot/scalper tool/etc is not a magic tool. I second the opinion that you probably should sell the software itself, not the signal.

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if you decide to trade with the signals, I don't mind, but there no guarantee, sometimes they fail and you should do it for your own risk.
This bold part is about all. You are not alone, we have seen 1000s of similar services across social media including this community hence people with past experiences on crypto trading do never mind testing your services even with demo account/ paper trading. Personally in my early days, I have tried straight away with paid subscription but I ended up unable to protect even my capital. Even on some days I was able to make some profits, the other days where stoploss hitting had eaten my capital. So, your disclaimer is all about. It is all boiling down to, like there would be only 10% chances for your signal to get me profits on the day when I try, right?

Some influencers stop sharing signals because people found out they're doing pump & dump in the end.
Yeah, that must be the ugly truth of what we come across the social media. Everyone wants to learn their own lessons, otherwise we there would not have been these many influencers on crypto trading niche alone.

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February 03, 2025, 08:30:12 PM
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For clarification, I am not selling signals, software, or ask for any money.
I might do it in some distant future, but currently don't.

The tg channel is free and open for everyone, signals appear in real time, you can visit it and make your own unbiased opinion.

You may collect some statistics from the channel, however, I plan to post accumulated statistics on daily basis inside the channel.

Here some latest signals results (images from channel):
https://www.imghippo.com/i/BUW6083whk.jpg

Anyway, I wanted to inform you, that I added binance futures.
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