Ban Appeal for Account Leviathan.007

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[Xal0lex]

Such an account does not exist on the forum. In any case, I did not find it. There is such an account - "Leviathan.007". Is this the account we're talking about? Is this your account?

[JollyGood]

I just wanted to help a jobless friend to support his family, I allowed him to use my account to make posts and earn a small income for himself and his family. I understand it was a mistake and I failed to consider the consequences of this decision and I made this mistake about it. My friend was unfamiliar with the forum rules and guidelines, and he inadvertently posted plagiarized content which made my acount banned.

I do not accept the story about you giving a friend access to your account but others will come to their own conclusions.

If possible, I kindly request you to review my account history again and then reconsider the permanent ban you made. I have attached a screenshot that shows the moment I provided my account info and explained where my friend should post (on 30th December), as proof of my honest intentions.

The screenshot is not conclusive proof that corroborates your story but there is a possible different outcome. It could be perceived by some members that you gave your login credentials to a third party and advised on several threads to post in because you had other intentions (such as focusing on other accounts).

Also, if you check the posts, the writing style is completely different. I understand the importance of our forum’s standards and will ensure you that such an incident never ever happens again.

Yes, that usually happens when somebody other than creator of the account posts on their behalf.

[leviathan-007-ban]

Hello Xal0lex,

Such an account does not exist on the forum. In any case, I did not find it. There is such an account - "Leviathan.007". Is this the account we're talking about? Is this your account?

Yes, I had a typo mistake and fixed it. Thanks for the note

Hello JollyGood

I just wanted to help a jobless friend to support his family, I allowed him to use my account to make posts and earn a small income for himself and his family. I understand it was a mistake and I failed to consider the consequences of this decision and I made this mistake about it. My friend was unfamiliar with the forum rules and guidelines, and he inadvertently posted plagiarized content which made my acount banned.

I do not accept the story about you giving a friend access to your account but others will come to their own conclusions.

I understand, but I have provided a screenshot which is all I have also if you check the posts you can understand my writing style is different. I think it's not possible to provide any other evidence for it. However sharing account infor is not right and I regret it.

If possible, I kindly request you to review my account history again and then reconsider the permanent ban you made. I have attached a screenshot that shows the moment I provided my account info and explained where my friend should post (on 30th December), as proof of my honest intentions.

The screenshot is not conclusive proof that corroborates your story but there is a possible different outcome. It could be perceived by some members that you gave your login credentials to a third party and advised on several threads to post in because you had other intentions (such as focusing on other accounts).

I have no other account and they can check by my IP, maybe staff have it. Also, since I came up with the truth there is no reason to lay about it and put myself in danger again

Also, if you check the posts, the writing style is completely different. I understand the importance of our forum’s standards and will ensure you that such an incident never ever happens again.

Yes, that usually happens when somebody other than creator of the account posts on their behalf.

Thank you for pointing out that the writing styles, This supports my explanation that the posts in question were not authored by me. However, I repeat I'm aware I made a mistake by sharing my account information and I take responsibility for it.

Thank you both for your attention

[NotATether]

I just wanted to help a jobless friend to support his family, I allowed him to use my account to make posts and earn a small income for himself and his family. I understand it was a mistake and I failed to consider the consequences of this decision and I made this mistake about it. My friend was unfamiliar with the forum rules and guidelines, and he inadvertently posted plagiarized content which made my acount banned.

I do not accept the story about you giving a friend access to your account but others will come to their own conclusions.

It's real, I just had a Telegram conversation with him which I can provide here on request.

While I would say it was a very foolish idea for him to give a spammer access to his account to participate in a sig campaign on his behalf (he could've just sent the campaign money to his address for example), it technically was not his own plagiarism.

[JollyGood]

Thank you for pointing out that the writing styles, This supports my explanation that the posts in question were not authored by me. However, I repeat I'm aware I made a mistake by sharing my account information and I take responsibility for it.

If you take responsibility for it then you should accept the ban.

Think about it, where is the logic if a member plagiarises does get banned yet if the same member gives access to their account to a third party who then plagiarises on their account does not get banned. What message does that send out to others?

It's real, I just had a Telegram conversation with him which I can provide here on request.

While I would say it was a very foolish idea for him to give a spammer access to his account to participate in a sig campaign on his behalf (he could've just sent the campaign money to his address for example), it technically was not his own plagiarism.

Not to doubt you at all but just for a moment if we accept it was an innocent mistake, should there be zero sanction?

As you stated, he could have just sent the campaign funds to him instead. Why would someone happily not accept their campaign payments by giving their account to someone else unless they had another account they could use to either rank up if it was new or capitalise on if it was already enrolled on a campaign? The alternative would have been to complete the quota himself and send the money to his friend.

Did the OP ask the Stake manager if he would be allowed permission for someone else to post on his behalf? Did the OP ask the Stake manager to change his payment address until the foreseeable future? If this was an innocent mistake, he created the problem simply by allowing someone else to access his account when it was not necessary and that person abused that trust therefore he (not the other party) are now facing the consequences.

[NotATether]

It's real, I just had a Telegram conversation with him which I can provide here on request.

While I would say it was a very foolish idea for him to give a spammer access to his account to participate in a sig campaign on his behalf (he could've just sent the campaign money to his address for example), it technically was not his own plagiarism.

Not to doubt you at all but just for a moment if we accept it was an innocent mistake, should there be zero sanction?

Obviously I do believe that there should be some form of punishment, but I don't have other details about the situation, particularly:

Did the OP ask the Stake manager if he would be allowed permission for someone else to post on his behalf? Did the OP ask the Stake manager to change his payment address until the foreseeable future? If this was an innocent mistake, he created the problem simply by allowing someone else to access his account when it was not necessary and that person abused that trust therefore he (not the other party) are now facing the consequences.

[Solosanz]

Regardless what the reason is, you deserve to get the punishment. It always been like that, after someone get punishment or accusation, they will come with their sad stories in order to get empathy from the moderators.

Anyway screenshot isn't a valid proof, it can be photoshopped.

it technically was not his own plagiarism.

What it should be? changed hands? so @OP deserve to get negative feedback too.

[leviathan-007-ban]

Thank you for pointing out that the writing styles, This supports my explanation that the posts in question were not authored by me. However, I repeat I'm aware I made a mistake by sharing my account information and I take responsibility for it.

If you take responsibility for it then you should accept the ban.

Think about it, where is the logic if a member plagiarises does get banned yet if the same member gives access to their account to a third party who then plagiarises on their account does not get banned. What message dose that send out to others?

I believe my mistake was to share account information not plagiarise or spam since I never did it before myself.
Why should I put myself in danger and do plagiarism? Just because I can't write? Then how did it before? Where is the logic?
That's clear I made a mistake, but my mistake was not plagiarism since I didn't do that. I think a permanent ban is too much for this case and I could get a warning because of my case.
I never had a bad purpose and just wanted to help someone. I can provide any other evidence you ask.

As you stated, he could have just sent the campaign funds to him instead. Why would someone happily not accept their campaign payments by giving their account to someone else unless they had another account they could use to either rank up if it was new or capitalise on if it was already enrolled on a campaign? The alternative would have been to complete the quota himself and send the money to his friend.

You are talking about 'another account' and again I repeat, they can check my IP or other things but I never had the time to even create another account. Also. Personally, I'm against having multiple accounts and that's why even this account was named like this and I'm trying to appeal the decision because that's the only account I've been working on for years. Since there is no proof about having multiple accounts there is no reason to create a theory unlike there is enough evidence.

You are right and I could send him the funds instead of letting him control my account, but as I said before I didn't want to give money directly but I wanted to just let him work.
However, it was my mistake because I was doing this to help someone while sometimes you will face consequences even if you have a good cause.
 

Regardless what the reason is, you deserve to get the punishment. It always been like that, after someone get punishment or accusation, they will come with their sad stories in order to get empathy from the moderators.

Anyway screenshot isn't a valid proof, it can be photoshopped.

I don't have any problem with giving access to my telegram account to a trusted DT1 member if the screenshot is not enough. I have nothing to hide.
Why on earth do I have to put my account in danger just for a few fore cents?

it technically was not his own technically.

What it should be? changed hands? so @OP deserve to get negative feedback too.

I think he meant it's not technically *me* doing this. People do that to earn more, and rank up,... but that's clear on my account I did it to help someone.
I can provide any other evidence like telegram access or other things to prove my honesty if DT members ask me to.

[Lucius]

When you do stupid things in life, be prepared for the consequences - and I can't say anything other than that it's really stupid to give your BTT account to someone else without first considering that someone will notice that the person behind that account has changed. The way some users of this forum think is incredible, in a negative context of course.

If the admins approve this request, I would recommend a signature ban for 2 years - because when you rent an account to a friend, then you deserve to lose it for a while.

[leviathan-007-ban]

When you do stupid things in life, be prepared for the consequences - and I can't say anything other than that it's really stupid to give your BTT account to someone else without first considering that someone will notice that the person behind that account has changed. The way some users of this forum think is incredible, in a negative context of course.

If the admins approve this request, I would recommend a signature ban for 2 years - because when you rent an account to a friend, then you deserve to lose it for a while.

Thank you for your attention.
Yes, it was a foolish idea I deeply regret my decision, but in that intention was simply to help a friend in need, not realizing the broader implications of my actions. I just wanted to help him while I was damaging myself and I didn't understand which was my mistake.
But I didn't 'rent' anything.
I just wanted to help him since he was the only son of his family and had no income( long story). I would never take anything for myself considering his situation.
People who know me here can understand I'm not the guy to abuse or take advantage of people.
I understand now that what I did was wrong, regardless of my intentions. I have learned a hard lesson from this experience and will never make the same mistake again.

[Free Market Capitalist]

In short. I never cease to be amazed at the things I read around here. I mean, you supposedly left the account to a friend, the friend plagiarized, and now what do you want? Your account back? But are you going to hand it back to a friend or what?

I wouldn't be surprised if you got it back but I don't see any reason to do so.

Although someone who has long since only posted in the Gambling section I doubt very much that he is going to be a priority for the forum.

[LoyceV]

When exactly did your "friend" start using your account? And why didn't you explain to him the most common cause of bans before you gave him access to your account?

You've made 2440 posts since you last earned Merit. It's obvious you were just spamming in one of the worst spam campaigns on the forum. You're going to have a hard time doing this:

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

How did you go from earning 722 Merits in less than 7000 posts to not earning a single Merit in 2400 posts?

[Hagart]

We all make mistakes in life and we all pay for them. Maybe you would have wanted to help your friend, but you would have helped him more by teaching him how to have his own account and how to grow it according to the forum rules, than by giving him access to yours. I'm not going to judge what punishment you deserve since I'm nobody, but you must "give back" something in exchange for your mistake.

Good luck!

[leviathan-007-ban]

In short. I never cease to be amazed at the things I read around here. I mean, you supposedly left the account to a friend, the friend plagiarized, and now what do you want? Your account back? But are you going to hand it back to a friend or what?

I wouldn't be surprised if you got it back but I don't see any reason to do so.

I didn't 'leave the account' I just him he could use it because of his situation.
Regardless of the good intentions I have, I'm deeply sorry for it and I will never ever give access to anyone again, I also changed my password.

Although someone who has long since only posted in the Gambling section I doubt very much that he is going to be a priority for the forum.

As far as I know, all member of the forum are same based on their posts there are many posters in the gambling section that should be respected.

When exactly did your "friend" start using your account? And why didn't you explain to him the most common cause of bans before you gave him access to your account?

Hello LoyceV,
Thank you for reading my post and nice to see you here.
In fact, I explained to him or at least I tried to do that but he sadly didn't understand...

You've made 2440 posts since you last earned Merit. It's obvious you were just spamming in one of the worst spam campaigns on the forum. You're going to have a hard time doing this:

If you think that a ban should be ended, make your case in a new topic from a "good for the forum as a whole" perspective.

How did you go from earning 722 Merits in less than 7000 posts to not earning a single Merit in 2400 posts?

In my defence, my posts are not bad but recently I just posted on the gambling section and since there are many posts in this section it's hard to pay attention to my posts and that's why I didn't get merit recently. I tried to write mosts with enough information. Not all my posts but many of these posts are good enough.

We all make mistakes in life and we all pay for them. Maybe you would have wanted to help your friend, but you would have helped him more by teaching him how to have his own account and how to grow it according to the forum rules, than by giving him access to yours. I'm not going to judge what punishment you deserve since I'm nobody, but you must "give back" something in exchange for your mistake.

Good luck!

Sure we all make mistakes after years in both real life and here. I also said I was deeply sorry for this mistake I made.

but you must "give back" something in exchange for your mistake

"I gave everything" and got permanently banned when I had good intentions to help someone.

[JeromeTash]

The fact that you handed over your account to someone means that you no longer needed it, otherwise there are so many things that person could have used your account for such as sharing phishing links, scamming users (Loan scams) etc

It was a mistake from your part. In fact, I am a bit disappointed since you used to burst some scams at one point. Maybe it's just time to let it go.

[Vod]

The PM links have no context - it's just "post here so I can get signature money".

I wish we could ban everyone who just posts for $ and nothing else, but I'll start with not opposing this ban. 

Yay BCT!

[leviathan-007-ban]

The fact that you handed over your account to someone means that you no longer needed it, otherwise there are so many things that person could have used your account for such as sharing phishing links, scamming users (Loan scams) etc

It was a mistake from your part. In fact, I am a bit disappointed since you used to burst some scams at one point. Maybe it's just time to let it go.

You're absolutely right. it was a serious mistake on my part, and I deeply regret my actions. I didn't hand over the account I just let him use it to help his family with a small income. I had good intentions to help a friend but didn't choose the right way and that's how I damaged myself.
I deeply regret disappointing those who saw me as someone who stood against scams in the past. That’s something I’m proud of, and I never wanted to jeopardize that reputation. I still had the same thoughts but the way I wanted to help people was wrong.

The PM links have no context - it's just "post here so I can get signature money".

I wish we could ban everyone who just posts for $ and nothing else, but I'll start with not opposing this ban.  

Yay BCT!

Thank you for your feedback. I completely understand how my actions may have come across and I deeply regret the way things unfolded. But I never said, "Post here so I can get signature money". In fact, I never wanted to take anything for myself as I explained above clearly. There is no reason to put myself in danger for it.
But I take full responsibility for my mistake and hope to have the opportunity to prove that I’m here for more than just personal benefit.

[LogitechMouse]

"The end doesn't justify the means."

A quote that's applicable to you OP. I know that you just want to help your friend, but you did it the wrong way, and even though you are doing a good thing, you're doing it in an unethical way hence, banning your account. Sometimes, we only feel regret when we experienced the worst thing possible, and with this one, it's a permaban.Let's say they will unban you OP, what about those who got banned for plagiarizing then? There's another way for you to help your friend, and that's through donating the money that you've earned, and not through this one.

The intentions are there. The empathy is there, but you did it in an unethical way. You said that you've regretted it, and I guess you just need to live with it. Hoping for the best for you OP, but like what others said, you deserve the ban.

[LoyceV]

I just let him use it to help his family with a small income. I had good intentions to help a friend

While doing this, you didn't consider the forum, and now you suffer the consequences. There's a reason Newbies can't advertise signatures, and you let a Newbie without any knowledge run wild.