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January 26, 2025, 01:29:23 PM
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Hello everyone,

I'm currently in the process of organizing a completely transparent and fair giveaway on 'bitcointalk.org' platform. To ensure the integrity of the process and to avoid any potential concerns or accusations of manipulation, I'd like to inquire about the possibility of editing text without leaving visible signs of such changes. Specifically, I'd like to know if there are methods or tools available that would allow text modifications to be made without these edits being detectable to others. As mentioned, my goal is to create a fully transparent and trustworthy experience for all participants using Bitmover's provably fair giveaway manager for 'bitcointalk.org' (https://bitcoindata.science/giveaway-manager/), and I want to ensure that no one has any reason to doubt the fairness of the event.

If anyone has relevant insights/experiences regarding this topic, I'd greatly appreciate your input. Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.

-Jordi Metil
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January 26, 2025, 01:31:39 PM
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If the text is edited within 10 minutes it won’t show as edited but even if it don’t show as edited you can use tools like ninjastic to check edit history of any post.

Edited: checking if it will show edited after 5 minutes…

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January 26, 2025, 01:34:22 PM
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If the text is edited within 10 minutes it won’t show as edited but even if it don’t show as edited you can use tools like ninjastic to check edit history of any post.
It's five minutes. Will edit in the next five minutes.
It’s already more than 5 minutes since I posted and I have done an edit and it did not appear as edited..
Wow always thought it was five minutes. Thanks.

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January 26, 2025, 01:38:46 PM
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If the text is edited within 10 minutes it won’t show as edited but even if it don’t show as edited you can use tools like ninjastic to check edit history of any post.
It's five minutes. Will edit in the next five minutes
It’s already more than 5 minutes since I posted and I have done an edit and it did not appear as edited..

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January 26, 2025, 01:39:26 PM
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If the text is edited within 10 minutes it won’t show as edited but even if it don’t show as edited you can use tools like ninjastic to check edit history of any post.

Edited: checking if it will show edited after 5 minutes…

Hey,

Thank you for your reply and for sharing this information.

Just to confirm my understanding, it seems that even if an edit is made within the 10-minute window and does not display as an "edited" marker, tools such as 'Ninjastic' (https://ninjastic.space/search) would still allow for the edit history to be tracked. This would, in turn, ensure that any potential manipulation remains detectable, thus safeguarding the transparency and fairness of the process.

If I have understood correctly, it appears that the risk of manipulation without detection is effectively mitigated. Your clarification on this point would be highly appreciated to further solidify my confidence in the fairness and integrity of the event.

Thank you again for your assistance. I look forward to your response.

-Jordi Metil
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January 26, 2025, 01:50:57 PM
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Just to confirm my understanding, it seems that even if an edit is made within the 10-minute window and does not display as an "edited" marker, tools such as 'Ninjastic' (https://ninjastic.space/search) would still allow for the edit history to be tracked. This would, in turn, ensure that any potential manipulation remains detectable, thus safeguarding the transparency and fairness of the process.

Yeah, I think is not really important using ninjastics
As long as there's no edited then I don't see any reason to go that far.
Mistakes happen and 10 minutes isn't going to change much except it's time sensitive.

Since your question has been answered I would advising lock-in the thread.
The option is at the bottom left corner.

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January 26, 2025, 01:52:38 PM
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If I have understood correctly, it appears that the risk of manipulation without detection is effectively mitigated. Your clarification on this point would be highly appreciated to further solidify my confidence in the fairness and integrity of the event.

Thank you again for your assistance. I look forward to your response.

-Jordi Metil
Yes, there can't be any manipulation in terms of the user coming back to edit their post/comment or otherwise manipulate the event winning; that tool is everything you need. Even if the post is edited under a few seconds, it will be captured.

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[center][font=arial black][url=https://rainbet.com/raffle][size=16pt][color=#b82]$20K
[size=7pt][color=#224][font=arial][b]WEEKLY RAFFLE[/td]
[td][size=23pt][color=#cce]|[/td]
[td][size=1pt]
[center][font=arial black][url=https://rainbet.com/daily-race][size=16pt][color=#49F]$25K
[size=7pt][color=#224][font=arial][b]DAILY RACE[/td]
[td][size=23pt][color=#cce]|[/td]
[td][size=1pt]
[center][font=arial black][url=https://rainbet.com/weekly-race][size=16pt][color=#49F]$100K
[size=7pt][color=#224][font=arial][b]WEEKLY RACE[/td]
[td][size=23pt][color=#cce]|[/td]
[td][size=1pt]
[center][font=arial black][url=https://rainbet.com/monthly-race][size=16pt][color=#49F]$500K
[size=7pt][color=#224][font=arial][b]MONTHLY RACE[/td]
[td][size=23pt][color=#cce]|[/td]
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January 26, 2025, 02:06:55 PM
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If I have understood correctly, it appears that the risk of manipulation without detection is effectively mitigated. Your clarification on this point would be highly appreciated to further solidify my confidence in the fairness and integrity of the event.

Thank you again for your assistance. I look forward to your response.

-Jordi Metil
Yes, there can't be any manipulation in terms of the user coming back to edit their post/comment or otherwise manipulate the event winning; that tool is everything you need. Even if the post is edited under a few seconds, it will be captured.

Thank you for your assistance, I really appreciate your time!

-Jordi Metil
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