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January 28, 2025, 07:19:47 AM
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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.
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January 28, 2025, 07:28:10 AM
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First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.
This is not gambling but marketing. Because you market for a gambling site, does not mean you are gambling.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.
Will the VIP users be able to withdraw the money without gambling? I doubt it.

To earn from gambling or betting, it means you need to gamble or bet. And that is very risky and the person is more likely to lose. I have come to the conclusion before and still my opinion now that people should not think of any way to make money from gambling. Just have fun with it instead by using little amount of money to gamble.

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January 28, 2025, 07:28:47 AM
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January 28, 2025, 07:34:04 AM
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Another possibility is offered by sites that have a faucet feature : you can claim faucet reward and farm them by trying to hit a big multiplier ( because usually you can claim the faucet only when your balance is zero, or close to zero : once you get lucky with the first hits you can try to grow your balance betting on low odds if the site offers game like dice crash limbo and so on.
Did you notice how low the reward of faucets is? You will farm them for weeks if not months before you get good amount amount of money that is enough to gamble the way you like.

In the process of looking for money through faucets, you are working already just like you do normal work and earn money in return. No money is free. The gambling sites should have given users something like free spins or free bets instead which is better.

Also, the gambling sites created the faucets for users to test the games they have on their site and not a means to earn money.

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January 28, 2025, 07:39:20 AM
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The first method is legit as income, but I doubt the second method will work.
I have a VIP account on St*ke as well. True they give weekly and monthly bonuses, but considering how much you wager to rank up vs bonuses you'll get, I doubt it'll be breakeven for most (losing) players.

Will the VIP users be able to withdraw the money without gambling? I doubt it.
I think you can, but without gambling/wagering your bonus will be low, well it depends on the rank though.

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January 28, 2025, 07:40:59 AM
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Another possibility is offered by sites that have a faucet feature : you can claim faucet reward and farm them by trying to hit a big multiplier ( because usually you can claim the faucet only when your balance is zero, or close to zero : once you get lucky with the first hits you can try to grow your balance betting on low odds if the site offers game like dice crash limbo and so on.
Did you notice how low the reward of faucets? You will farm them for weeks if not months before you get good amount amount money that is enough to gamble the way you like.

In the process of looking of looking for money through faucets, you are working already just like you do normal work and earn money in return. No money is free. The gambling sites should have given users something like free spins instead which is better. The gambling sites created the faucets for users to test the games they have on their site and not a means to earn money.

Sure you are right but it doesn't mean it is impossible : beside faucets there are sites performing rain chat, daily rewards, daily free tasks that gives reward and so on; basically you can claim faucets ( or whatever other rewards I mentioned above) and go for 9900x on dice for example: once you hit ( and it may happen if you are consistent with this method ) you can try to grow the wins up by small betting on odds like 1.1x or similar.

Of course you will always lose to house edge in the long run or may face the possibility of getting restricted by the site but again, and I talk from personal experience, it is no impossible.
Not saying it's  easy thou, quite the opposite instead.

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January 28, 2025, 08:02:32 AM
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Some crypto casino's have NFT staking options where you earn a portion of the casino revenue examples are Solcasino and Moonroll. Same goes for token staking like Rollbit.

Also, I see alot other crypto casino's coming up that have a rev share utility for their casino token. In this way you profit from gambling without betting but you have to invest.
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January 28, 2025, 08:03:54 AM
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Another system could be to invest in casino bankrolls and withdraw as it rises. But it would not be as stable as the other two options and I don't see any offers today to be able to invest.

The first method is legit as income, but I doubt the second method will work.
I have a VIP account on St*ke as well. True they give weekly and monthly bonuses, but considering how much you wager to rank up vs bonuses you'll get, I doubt it'll be breakeven for most (losing) players.

Will the VIP users be able to withdraw the money without gambling? I doubt it.
I think you can, but without gambling/wagering your bonus will be low, well it depends on the rank though.

But I imagine that if you stop betting on good you will lose your VIP level, or you will not receive any bonuses. It would not make sense to keep it indefinitely. Therefore, the only feasible way, although difficult, would be to get referrals.

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January 28, 2025, 08:04:15 AM
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That first one is difficult and you must be a popular person to get some good affiliates. The percentage they give is very low for each affiliate unless you get lucky to have a high roller that will bet every day or week with high amounts. Then, we all know that people want their safety so they won't just click any link and will rather go directly to the website using the default address instead of a long one that looks fishy.

The second one is a good choice but the wagering requirement could take a long time and we might spend a lot of money too before we reach a decent VIP level. Yes, that is true. We will still receive something even if we don't bet a large amount each month. Just keep the account active as much as possible and bet some while having fun.

The third choice will be the investment thing but I have not seen any that have a good offer just like Yolodice before they closed down. I think if the popular online casinos will put this feature, there will be many gamblers who will pick that choice.

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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.
Seems like so many are against joining a site on someone's affiliate code. I can't really grasp why honestly. It takes nothing away from the gambler and if they're going to gamble anyways, why not let someone make a few bucks off of them.

The affiliate program its self decides whether or not i'll even ask people to use my code. If the program is wager based I have no problem letting someone use my code, but if I get paid based off of someone's losses I would rather not promote my link. I don't like rooting for someone to lose so I make money.

As far as stake goes and their VIP program, I love getting a few cents back from my bets or the weekly and monthly bonuses, but those are not lifetime guarantees. Yes if you reach a VIP level you get the weekly and monthly, but if you stop wagering, you will notice the amount you get each week/month goes down. Sites aren't stupid, they aren't gonna hand you the same amount every week or month if you are just using them for free money.

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But I imagine that if you stop betting on good you will lose your VIP level, or you will not receive any bonuses. It would not make sense to keep it indefinitely. Therefore, the only feasible way, although difficult, would be to get referrals.
Referrals are not that hard if you have fan base. There are people that have something they are doing that makes them have many people that visit what they are providing their customers. I have seen news sites, influencers, comedians and many people advertising gambling sites. Such thing is not hard for people like that. But if you do not have a fan base, no need of going for referral program because it will not enough yield profit.

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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

Moat gamblers I know are impatient. Waiting to make money from these options takes a long time and resources. You have to be really fortunate to get a high roller that can make you make money from affiliate marketing. It will also take some time to grow your account to the level of VIP. Gamblers want to bet and get returns within a few minutes or hours. You can easily make a profit gambling than engaging in other fringe services. However, it will not be a bad idea to still engage in affiliate marketing, it could be another source of revenue.

In my country, almost every street has physical sports bet centers. I have asked some of the operators and they said it is very profitable. Maybe one might consider putting money in a betting shop after proper feasibility studies.

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January 28, 2025, 09:36:14 AM
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Another possibility is offered by sites that have a faucet feature : you can claim faucet reward and farm them by trying to hit a big multiplier ( because usually you can claim the faucet only when your balance is zero, or close to zero : once you get lucky with the first hits you can try to grow your balance betting on low odds if the site offers game like dice crash limbo and so on.

That's a good point, some casinos still having faucet, and some  of them even let you collet the faucet eve if you have balance, a good example is freebitco.in site, and there is a similar versión with Litecoin.

The problem that I see about chasing a big multiplier with faucet is how hard is to hit those multipliers, let's say we are chasing a x1000, then odds say It will take close to 1000 bets to hit It. And if we can claim the faucet each hour then It will take close to 1k hours to hit It, so, we need luck for this method, or a lot of time.
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One of the problems with people who income from gambling is greed. The referral program and vip program income will  it be okay with those who are expecting income from gambling, won't they think the amount of money from it is not enough. Those who gamble to make money are not just looking for small amount of money, they spend so much money in gambling expecting a huge amount from it .

 The mindset that some people already have about gambling that it can generate so much money for them, even if they know about these programs I don't think they will be satisfied with it.

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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

Moat gamblers I know are impatient. Waiting to make money from these options takes a long time and resources. You have to be really fortunate to get a high roller that can make you make money from affiliate marketing. It will also take some time to grow your account to the level of VIP. Gamblers want to bet and get returns within a few minutes or hours. You can easily make a profit gambling than engaging in other fringe services. However, it will not be a bad idea to still engage in affiliate marketing, it could be another source of revenue.

In my country, almost every street has physical sports bet centers. I have asked some of the operators and they said it is very profitable. Maybe one might consider putting money in a betting shop after proper feasibility studies.
The two options in the OP are ways to earn money in gambling but I believe that many gamblers would not focus on them to be profitable in gambling. They'll rather gamble with their own money to either win or lose, that is why it's called gambling, earning from it will become like a business transaction. Although there's nothing wrong with exploring avenues like the referrals to earn some money but I wouldn't really classify it as gambling. The fun in gambling is when you stake your money knowing that you're taking a risk to either increase or lose it, that's where the thrills of gambling centers.

 
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If the scenario is like that, it means that you are not getting money from gambling but rather you are becoming a promoter of a gambling site with the aim of profiting from the losses of gamblers who register through the affiliate link that you include, and this is also no different from other methods such as you give some money to the bookie to help run their gambling business with a profit sharing agreement of several percent every month/year.

Another thing for the VIP option in my opinion is the same as the amount of your previous losses which are returned slowly every week/month, because I also have an older brother whose gambling account has reached VIP level and honestly to reach that level you have to spend a lot of money outside of the amount of winnings you get, but most likely the amount of his losses is much greater than his winnings while in the process of upgrading his account to reach that VIP level.
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The two options in the OP are ways to earn money in gambling but I believe that many gamblers would not focus on them to be profitable in gambling.
Affiliate is not gambling. VIP program can be seen as gambling but not everyone can get there. Many people would have lost money before they will become VIP. VIP simply means thanks for more time spent on our site. The more time spent that led to loss of money. Some people suggested faucet, but which is not possible to become money than to take time to make money from it and yet lose the money again most likely.

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January 28, 2025, 11:06:29 AM
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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.
First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

This is the reason why gambling is the most promoted affiliate platform on the internet; you just need a few VIPs to recruit, and you are on your way to making residual income or funds to use to gamble.
Many gambling affiliates are doing this; they need to play to study and review the features of the casino they are promoting, so the potential referrals will know what the casino is offering.
Another is becoming part owner of the casino; you can use your share to play on the casino.


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January 28, 2025, 11:28:05 AM
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I Will add also to the list:
- scalping bets (that allow to made small profit with a sort of safe bet).
- gambling bonuses (each year with gambling sites give aways thousands of dollars to new /old players).
- It should be listed also "surebets". But these requires huge amount and bookmakers didnt like this approach
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January 28, 2025, 11:28:52 AM
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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.
First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

This is the reason why gambling is the most promoted affiliate platform on the internet; you just need a few VIPs to recruit, and you are on your way to making residual income or funds to use to gamble.
Many gambling affiliates are doing this; they need to play to study and review the features of the casino they are promoting, so the potential referrals will know what the casino is offering.
Another is becoming part owner of the casino; you can use your share to play on the casino.


Becoming part owner of a casino can mean a lot of things for readers, especially if you mean a token holder of the casino. Or being a partner of the owner.
Its easier to set up an affiliate. Even the review sites for crypto casinos are increasing in numbers, this is likely not profitable anymore since there are probably hundreds to thousands of them promoted even on social media sites.

Being a VIP is funny, because you will need to spend thousands of your money before you can become a VIP. Which means you will be betting.

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