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January 29, 2025, 10:28:02 PM
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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.
since I know gambling I have not heard that you earn money through this process in gambling, I think the main gambling is for you to stake and if you win, you make your money through gambling and if doesn't win, then you lose your money in the gambling, then I think this scenario you introduce to us is being real when the platform of a gambling is looking for popularity or wants to be known to the society and doing what you just presented to us is like people who is making the website or the platform to be well known through a chain connection, for me I don't think that gambling site that's is well known can accept this kind source of someone making money through their platform without placing bet.

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January 29, 2025, 10:46:12 PM
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If you are not an influencer with a huge number of subscribers, it makes no sense to expect to earn referral percentages, since there are practically no ways for an ordinary user to advertise an affiliate link. Moreover, subscribers of such influencers should be interested in gambling, otherwise it will not be the target audience that will be interested in going and then playing using a referral link.

 
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January 29, 2025, 10:57:15 PM
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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.
I don't know if it applies to everyone other casino but for the ones I know,  such prices do come with terms for which you must reach to be able to claim or use them, mostly the weekly prizes,  the referrals I don't have a good idea about it but the few I have encountered comes inform of a voucher such that you will  still have to use it on their platform to gamble the you get to withdraw from your wins and not you withdrawing your actual gift, so with that I think you still get to spend some certain amounts of money to get to the vip level you did mentioned,  so you may still have to place a bet technically.

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January 30, 2025, 07:22:26 AM
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This is not about how easy or how hard to earn money from affiliate program but it is more about the possible ways to earn money from gambling without betting.
Affiliate is one of the available ways as mentioned by OP, but the 2nd one mentioned by OP is not even a way to earn money without betting.
The other possible ways to earn money from gambling without betting or maybe without risking our money:
- Playing free roll poker, it takes time so try to find the best free roll which give a worthy prizepool.
- Participating in free contest as what we can see in the games and rounds board such as prediction contest.
You are mention some ways that people can use to earn money from gambling without using money. Yes, they can do that especially if they don't want to use their own money to earn money and I think that will be more safe for them and could stay away from the big lose.

I like the last two ways you mention because that is free for those who wants to earn money. But the challenge and the experience will be different than when they use their own money although that can help them to earn money if they have luck.
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January 30, 2025, 08:16:54 AM
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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

OP, I feel that this forum topic has nothing to do with actual gambling. It's more about making money without playing gambling games.
Maybe you should move the topic to another forum.
Gambling affiliate programs are great, but the gambling niche is extremely competitive you will have to come up with unique advertising methods and strategies in order to gain active buyer traffic.
I've never used casino VIP programs and I don't believe that this is a consistent way to make money out of gambling. VIP programs are just a method for the casinos to keep the active gamblers spending more money on that particular casino.
The casino tokens, like the Betfury token are just a variation of the VIP programs. This more like a marketing gimmick to keep the gamblers active.

 
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January 30, 2025, 08:44:25 AM
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To benefit from referral programs, you need to have a large enough audience that will be interested in gambling, and for an ordinary player this will not bring any benefit. Even if he sends several people who will occasionally play in the casino via his referral link. For VIP status, you need quite a lot of money, which is also unattainable for the average player and is also not a guarantee of making a profit.

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January 30, 2025, 12:20:09 PM
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To benefit from referral programs, you need to have a large enough audience that will be interested in gambling, and for an ordinary player this will not bring any benefit. Even if he sends several people who will occasionally play in the casino via his referral link. For VIP status, you need quite a lot of money, which is also unattainable for the average player and is also not a guarantee of making a profit.

Yes, that makes sense and maybe the conclusion is that an influencer or streamer should target their promotion to people who have above average financial situations such as rich people because most likely the amount of budget they use to gamble is also quite large compared to ordinary gamblers, but yes on the other hand it might be a bit difficult to target the promotion to rich people because usually broadcasting on social media is general. On the other hand, as you said, to reach VIP a gambler needs quite a lot of money to bet until the requirements to become VIP are met, and only a minority of them can get through it because of financial factors that are obstacles, but the other option is to wait for a time that most likely will not be short to reach that level, so actually making money through the promotional link scenario cannot be ascertained regarding the amount of profit you will get, depending on how rich and how impulsive the gamblers who register on your link are.
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January 30, 2025, 01:55:50 PM
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If you are not an influencer with a huge number of subscribers, it makes no sense to expect to earn referral percentages, since there are practically no ways for an ordinary user to advertise an affiliate link. Moreover, subscribers of such influencers should be interested in gambling, otherwise it will not be the target audience that will be interested in going and then playing using a referral link.
That's what we think --- influencers with a large following are influential in getting more referrals, especially if you are a gambling influencer, the audience will be more interested in your referrals.
The problem is that because we are not influencers and only rely on sharing referrals on various social media, it will not be effective to expect income from affiliates.

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January 30, 2025, 03:10:51 PM
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Yes, the truth is that there are some individuals that are involved in affiliate marketing, they don't gamble but they earn from the gambling industry by advertising the casino on their social media accounts. Some people might not only be advertising for one company, but gambling ads could also be part of a contract they accepted. Taking a close example of this, we have some members on this forum who wear casino signature and they are earning but yet they don't gamble.

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January 30, 2025, 03:24:59 PM
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Yes, the truth is that there are some individuals that are involved in affiliate marketing, they don't gamble but they earn from the gambling industry by advertising the casino on their social media accounts. Some people might not only be advertising for one company, but gambling ads could also be part of a contract they accepted. Taking a close example of this, we have some members on this forum who wear casino signature and they are earning but yet they don't gamble.

I disagree with you. A subscription campaign is fundamentally different from referral systems. A subscription campaign guarantees that if you follow its rules and fulfill the conditions, you will get paid. Any referral program implies that you get paid for each invited user who gambles. Most forum users would not be able to earn even a tenth of what they get from subscription campaigns. To attract a large number of gamblers to the gambling platform requires much more than forum rank and experience in gambling.
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January 30, 2025, 03:28:56 PM
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First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.
Gambling is risking money or property in a game with the aim of getting money. So if you get money with an affiliate/referral program, it is not considered gambling because there is no money at stake. And it is more appropriate to call it marketing.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.
And this might be more appropriately called a gift or reward that is given to you. So in essence it is impossible to earn income from gambling without betting because to earn income from gambling you have to bet first.
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January 30, 2025, 03:32:44 PM
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Yes, the truth is that there are some individuals that are involved in affiliate marketing, they don't gamble but they earn from the gambling industry by advertising the casino on their social media accounts. Some people might not only be advertising for one company, but gambling ads could also be part of a contract they accepted. Taking a close example of this, we have some members on this forum who wear casino signature and they are earning but yet they don't gamble.

I disagree with you. A subscription campaign is fundamentally different from referral systems. A subscription campaign guarantees that if you follow its rules and fulfill the conditions, you will get paid. Any referral program implies that you get paid for each invited user who gambles. Most forum users would not be able to earn even a tenth of what they get from subscription campaigns. To attract a large number of gamblers to the gambling platform requires much more than forum rank and experience in gambling.

Well, you are right in your distinguish explanation of subscription campaign and referral campaign but that's not what am referring to in my post.
I am only giving example of how members on the forum who are non gamblers are also earning by advertising casino on their signature space. I didn't say in any place that signature here is same as earning from referral program of casinos or gambling sits.

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The best way to get income from gambling without betting is to open your own online casino. All other methods are essentially divided into 2 types.

The first is the promotion of a specific online casino, conducting marketing or advertising events. As was rightly said above, in this situation, the income received is only indirectly related to gambling.

The second option is all sorts of bonuses that can be received from online casinos. Unfortunately, these bonuses usually do not cover losses from casino losses. We must never forget that any online casino is a commercial organization. The goal of every commercial organization is to make a profit.

Therefore, gambling should be considered as entertainment, and not for making a profit.

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January 30, 2025, 04:23:53 PM
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There are some ways to earn money without paicing bets and I would like to talk about some of them.

First and the main one is the affiliate/referal programas, this way by sharing your affiliate link you will get some incom from the users bets, isn't easy to get good affiliate (users who bet a lot) but with one high roller you could make a descent amount.

The second one is the VIP programas, like the one that stake offers, you need to bet to grow your account, but once you have a good VIP level you will get a weekly and monthly prizes, It will be better if you bet that month but even without betting you will get something each week/month.

Gambling as income without betting the best way for now is just to participate in a campaign like signature campaign do some prediction and maybe campaign like play for free win for real. That is the easy way how to do a Gambling as income without betting, but something like this does not happen every day.

I tried to do a referral program/affiliate but it doesn't work for me to be honest, maybe it simply because I can make people do what I say or I just didn't understand how to lure people to join using my link

 
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The second option is all sorts of bonuses that can be received from online casinos. Unfortunately, these bonuses usually do not cover losses from casino losses. We must never forget that any online casino is a commercial organization. The goal of every commercial organization is to make a profit.


It is a rule of thumb, if a casino offers bonuses which can be withdrawn or abused in some way for people to get them out to their private wallets without taking any significant risk, then that casino will inevitably lose money from holding that promotion or bonus campaign, barely anyone with gamble using such bonuses and will limit themselves to enjoy the free money being given by the casino.
That is why every bonus (not matter what kind of bonus it is) has their own terms of use it terms of claiming, which are very beneficial for the house and invites all gamblers who accept the bonus to wager their own money (initial deposit) in order to claim any benefit.

As a conclusion of all that, I would not even say or claim bonus hunting is a reliable way to make money off gambling or making money on casinos. Eventually, one could even get banned for abuse of their terms of service.

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January 30, 2025, 06:24:25 PM
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To benefit from referral programs, you need to have a large enough audience that will be interested in gambling, and for an ordinary player this will not bring any benefit. Even if he sends several people who will occasionally play in the casino via his referral link. For VIP status, you need quite a lot of money, which is also unattainable for the average player and is also not a guarantee of making a profit.

You are correct, must have more audience that are very interested in gambling, some gamblers might click on the link and use your referral code and sign up then start gambling, but immediately they start losing, they probably quite because they don't understand much about gamble. Some of them that can no longer stop gambling because they have already lose enough money might try considering to continue and chase their loss.

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There are many ways to make money in this industry without gambling, but all of them involve being employed one way or another.

Signature campaigns are a good example of this. You work for the industry and get paid by the casino to promote it, but you don't have to gamble yourself. Same with affiliate links. If you can get people o register from your link, you'll get paid, but this is now much harder than it used to be in the early days, 10 years ago. Don't think you can make money from a casino program without gambling. They won't give it to you for free.
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...The problem is that because we are not influencers and only rely on sharing referrals on various social media, it will not be effective to expect income from affiliates.

Yes, it is very difficult to find someone who, firstly, is interested in gambling and, secondly, has not yet registered at the casino whose referral link you are offering. And I'll add another thing, so that he has a big deposit)

 
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January 30, 2025, 09:20:01 PM
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Both can indeed be done but that does not mean that in the end it is without any bets from the start especially for VIP because after all, weekly or monthly bonuses will only be obtained when we have a greater VIP level if indeed we want to feel the VIP benefits so that it certainly requires a bet first.
As for referrals, I agree with the opinions of some people here because indeed this is just a marketing even though we do have benefits from it but in the end it is only a small part of the referrals we have and it requires much greater skills if in the end you want a profit in a larger amount.

In the end gambling is still going to be lucky with gambling so regardless of what you say even if it is true it still won't be bigger when we try to bet in the end.


A gambler still needs to bet or deposit before he can enjoy other benefits offered by the casino. Even if you can earn from your referrals, it is not a guarantee that you will earn from it. Hard to promote a casino if you are not personally playing their games. So how can you entice other people if you don't know what's happening inside the site?
That is the reason that in the end there will be nothing that can really be leaned on for profit without any stakes at all in gambling because after all, it is called gambling and when we are already in that scope, what must be done normally is gambling, not anything else and for VIP or affiliate bonuses it is just a distraction that we can do to increase and activate us for gambling but still the main point is that we must not forget that being on a gambling site, it is certain that what must be done is gambling.

So by looking at this, of course we can draw a clear conclusion that in the end gambling will still be gambling and the benefits that will be obtained will also be based on the gambling activities that we do in the end, not from other elements as mentioned by the OP earlier. Although it does have a slight contribution, the situation is different because again it is just a distraction that is done in the end.


 
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January 30, 2025, 09:25:51 PM
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I miss my old manager who gave us poker entry every month.  I must have had a dozen free tournament tickets but I wasn't playing poker then.

The company got taken over and the old tickets were invalidated.   Big fail by me, I shoumld have played and got up to speed on poker while I was gifted the opportunity.

 
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