Show Trust-Rating everywhere?

[Wind_FURY]

Because there are some trolls spreading disinformation in the forum, and also playing 3D Chess, then does everyone also believe that each user's trust-rating should be shown below our names everywhere in the forum, not merely in Marketplace, Trading, and Gambling subforums?

I believe it would better help the newbies, and everyone in general, in avoiding the false-narratives and the lies of those more sophisticated trolls.

[Ambatman]

Though a plus but I believe it doesn't change much.
The boards where They are displayed are boards that needs them the most.

Trust or tag doesn't really define the quality of a person post
If you feel it's suspicious you can check the Trust of the individual.
Not that hard, Just a Button away.

[PrimeNumber7]

This is a *discussion* forum. Not all threads are related to financial transactions, which is what trust ratings are intended to help users deal with. If someone is a risky trading partner, they are not necessarily making bad points about whether the topic of the conversation

[Charles-Tim]

It is perfect the way it is. Making the trust to appear on all boards is not necessary. Although, if it is done in the way that you explain above, not bad either. But you should know that this would have been what was deliberated on before making it the way it is now.

[Jawhead999]

When someone is trolling and DT want to leave a feedback on his account, actually the DT should only leave a neutral feedback instead of negative feedback. Leaving negative feedback just because someone is a troll technically inappropriate.

If the forum show the trust rating, the troll will be marked with neutral feedback, which the newbie will think there's nothing bad with that user (assuming they understand the trust rating system).

[uchegod-21]

We shouldn't judge people by the tag they carry unless it is transaction related, besides, most tags are inappropriate and shouldn't define a user. I think it is fine this way...

[igebotz]

Because there are some trolls spreading disinformation in the forum, and also playing 3D Chess, then does everyone also believe that each user's trust-rating should be shown below our names everywhere in the forum, not merely in Marketplace, Trading, and Gambling subforums?

I believe it would better help the newbies, and everyone in general, in avoiding the false-narratives and the lies of those more sophisticated trolls

The trust rating isn't for battling trolls, It is for trading purposes and will be reflected on the appropriate boards/sub-boards. Nobody trades here on Meta, and I don't understand how displaying trust ratings across the board will prevent them from spreading misleading narratives.

One can be a dumb troll and still have a good trading history

[JeromeTash]

I know some people with red tags that still give good opinions in boards like Bitcoin discussion. I think the current design is fine. We have seen some scammers try to take good advantage of the current arrangement by posting their scams in boards where trust feedback and flags don't show, but the mods do a good job to delete or move such posts when reported.

The reason I think things are the way they are is because the admins do not want members to get biased about a member's opinions in other discussions just because they have red tags, so long as they are not trying to advertise their scam in that board.

[nutildah]

This is a *discussion* forum. Not all threads are related to financial transactions, which is what trust ratings are intended to help users deal with. If someone is a risky trading partner, they are not necessarily making bad points about whether the topic of the conversation

First time I'm in agreement with QuickNumber7 about anything, as far as I can recall.

It just goes to show that someone could indeed be a highly untrustworthy and duplicitous person but occasionally still make valid points.

Showing trust scores in areas focused on non-trading related matters is opening a can of worms as it could encourage people to use the trust system to punish others for wrongthink.

There's a few "predictooors" on the forum that consistently make garbage trading calls and heeding their advice could indeed be financially dangerous. But such accounts deserve neutrals at best, unless they are promoting abject scams - especially in a dishonest fashion - in which case a negative would be more appropriate.

[OcTradism]

Because there are some trolls spreading disinformation in the forum, and also playing 3D Chess, then does everyone also believe that each user's trust-rating should be shown below our names everywhere in the forum, not merely in Marketplace, Trading, and Gambling subforums?

It is not too difficult to realize trolls, and if there is only doubt about it is possible troll, you can click on that profile and check more.

I believe it would better help the newbies, and everyone in general, in avoiding the false-narratives and the lies of those more sophisticated trolls.

Newbies can do like above, clicking on profile and check more. But they need to feel kind of trolls before checking further.

In general, I think trolls in Bitcoin forum are not too overwhelming like on Facebook or X and other social media platforms. Basically Bitcoin forum is not a social media platform, and it's helpful to reduce trolls and control trolls through Trust feedback by community users too.

3. No trolling.

Q: Do you moderate/delete (possible) FUD, accusations and untrue information?
A: No. We don't have enough time to check every single piece of information and verify the validity of the sources. Also, just like scams - too much room for bias and abuse.

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

When it comes to accusations of commercial misconduct, if a user is accusing you / someone else of scamming or defrauding them in your / someone else's sales thread without providing evidence (either in the post itself or by linking to evidence elsewhere), that's considered low value and thus should be reported as such.

[Lucius]

I wouldn't mind if trust ratings were displayed on every board because I think scammers are using increasingly cunning methods and prefer boards where trust ratings are not displayed. Some forget that every scammer can promote their scam through an avatar, signature, personal text or web link, and that not all trades happen exclusively on boards where the trust-rating is displayed.

This is not a new proposal, there have been discussions about this several times, but nothing has changed.

[Lafu]

Because there are some trolls spreading disinformation in the forum, and also playing 3D Chess,

Let the trolls be doing there thing and just dont jump in there game.
If they want to try to play some 3D Chess dont give them any attention , let them play with themself.

then does everyone also believe that each user's trust-rating should be shown below our names everywhere in the forum, not merely in Marketplace, Trading, and Gambling subforums?

Even the Trust Rating is or was not meant for that , i would be agree that it would be a good thing to show everybody the Trust on every board.
Maybe a few would be getting more cautious about that Users when they see that there is something before they interact with some Users that have something done bad in the past and got tagged for that.

I believe it would better help the newbies, and everyone in general, in avoiding the false-narratives and the lies of those more sophisticated trolls.

It wont help the newbies , as they or the most new Users dont know what it is all about.

[PX-Z]

I wouldn't mind if trust ratings were displayed on every board because I think scammers are using increasingly cunning methods and prefer boards where trust ratings are not displayed.

I agree with this thought. Scammers have become increasingly aggressive these days, and displaying trust feedback anywhere in the forum has no downside—only benefits. So why not implement it?

[Sandra_hakeem]

I wouldn't mind if trust ratings were displayed on every board because I think scammers are using increasingly cunning methods and prefer boards where trust ratings are not displayed. Some forget that every scammer can promote their scam through an avatar, signature, personal text or web link, and that not all trades happen exclusively on boards where the trust-rating is displayed.

I don't even know why the forum's Smf patch is made to not display trust in some boards -- honestly, I get it about signatures, but trust? Why's that?But, why would anyone just initiate a trade with an account without clicking on the profile atleast?.. 'em fuckheads be falling for links and personal text? I don't want to assume this to be the case of the most recent reports on a reputation board, about a very reputable member, which later proved abortive because it was all for clout.

I agree with this thought. Scammers have become increasingly aggressive these days, and displaying trust feedback anywhere in the forum has no downside—only benefits. So why not implement it?

"Has no downsides"? Hopefully, I can get to know why it was implemented as well though.

[Lucius]

I wouldn't mind if trust ratings were displayed on every board because I think scammers are using increasingly cunning methods and prefer boards where trust ratings are not displayed.

I agree with this thought. Scammers have become increasingly aggressive these days, and displaying trust feedback anywhere in the forum has no downside—only benefits. So why not implement it?

Obviously for the reasons that you can read in the previous posts - but I personally do not see why the forum would allow anyone to hide some of their bad things in a certain part of the forum, just so that someone would not develop a bad opinion about he/she. In other words, if someone is a scammer, it only matters on boards where any trading takes place, because if others saw their trust score everywhere, they might ignore them or not value their opinion.

I remember a scammer who wrote on the B&H board for years and promoted some kind of vanity address generator, he had a whole bunch of negative feedback that unfortunately no one on that board could see.

[BenCodie]

I understand why the trust rating is only shown in marketplaces (as that's where it's most relevant) though I don't see why it shouldn't be shown everywhere else in the forum. At the same time, it's not hard to click on a profile name and check their trust rating. On the contrary view, it might be fair for everyone if it's not shown in areas unrelated to the marketplace, to allow people to participate in the forum without that being a factor.

I see what you mean, misinformation is a growing problem and trust has something to do with it, however if anything, I think this is yet another validator for a demerit system. Misinformation deserves demerits, not negative trust ratings, as sometimes it can be unintentional or down to someones opinion.

[Perfectbaby]

I believe it would better help the newbies, and everyone in general, in avoiding the false-narratives and the lies of those more sophisticated trolls.

You are right on your suggestion and opinion.
I could remember correctly there no place in the forum where scam or financial dealing is moderated, like anyone who is wanting to judge people by trust before involving themselves into any financially dealing are on their own. What i know people around here could do is either warned such person not to associate themselves with a scammed profile/project but doesn't mean they have special penalty over here. The only penalty is for them to get tagged for either violation of loan or scamming someone. Therefore, it is left for that person (anyone) to be very mindful while associating with any user here in the forum or even outside this as a connection to link their discussions on telegram or any other communication app aside this bitcointalk.org, hence displaying trust in every section of the forum isn't that compulsory or necessary.

[Lucius]

I understand why the trust rating is only shown in marketplaces (as that's where it's most relevant) though I don't see why it shouldn't be shown everywhere else in the forum.
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Reading other members' posts can help you get more information before writing a post. Otherwise, it seems like you don't respect the opinions of others or that you simply don't read anything beyond the first post or title.

[Free Market Capitalist]

While I am neither fervently for nor against, I am against the general sentiment of the responses, i.e. I am more in favor of the OP. That the trust is not shown seems to me to be an anomaly. If it is going to be displayed let it be displayed throughout the forum. If we are going to be thin-skinned there is a lot of trust feedback that is not related to having traded. Many times when I see someone I don't know on boards where it is not shown I go to their profile to see if they have left a neutral trust regarding their behavior on the forum, or even a positive or negative one.

Although chances are that theymos won't change anything because there is no pressing need for this, and people seem to be against change.

[igebotz]

I agree with this thought. Scammers have become increasingly aggressive these days, and displaying trust feedback anywhere in the forum has no downside—only benefits. So why not implement it?

Agreed However, having a safe space/boards where everyone, regardless of trust feedback, can have discussions without feeling inferior or being ignored is also beneficial to the forum to some extent, no?