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March 06, 2025, 06:50:26 PM
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Of all things they say experience is the best teacher so being successful in trading requires you to be much experienced and skillful in knowing and understanding the markets trends , this is what matters first in trading every other things are minor and if you have a stable income you need not to worry about where the money is coming from to venture into trading because one without an income is liable to no outcome and another thing to take note of is that, you can have a loss or profits that's  a necessity for sure.
Profit and loss are two definite things that cannot be separated by any trader so that every trader is indeed required to have a level of experience and knowledge of trading and market trends at all times. Actually, skills in trading don't have to be too much because what is needed more in trading is about how quickly we can find information that can affect the movement of coins in the market and also choose the coins we want to trade more precisely at a certain time. Because every trader only has to have a basic foundation when they want to buy and also when they want to sell them back into the market before opening a new order later.

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March 06, 2025, 06:51:12 PM
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There's no need of mentors when someone is really into trading. Most of the educational material regarding trading is still available on YouTube but most of the newbies don't really watch those material and start dreaming about getting rich after watching videos of influencers. If they begin properly and learn patience and self control then they can become top traders but still everything can't be a good trader and everyone can't make money from crypto market or from any market.
Before dreaming of becoming a crypto trader, we've to set standards and become concentrated on our fields, the market will always bring hurdles on our paths but ensuring we stick to proper planning and totally eradicating errors from our ends, the longevity will be prominent. Succeeding in trading is all about determination, discipline, having the right tools for trading. It's important to learn about the basis of trading. Crypto tutors in the market, they're made already and we should never compare ourselves to them, rather dash in to the learning aspects and practice everything been taught. Crypto made successful traders, they live extravagant lifestyle, I will urge the newbies to take a pause because their time is coming, learn the basis and ignore all aspects of triggering trades more harmful to one.
There are many things to learn about trading if you want to become a successful traders and it's not really about trading and understanding the market. Your personality and how you see the market would also be an input factor for your when trading the market.
There are people that have these patience in them and they don't go too quick when they are making decisions.

This is one of the ways to trade in the market because running to trade the market is not the best way to enter the market. You could make loses if you don't focus and make use of your risk management. There are many things we need to put together if we really want to become a successful traders in the market. It is not just reading different analysis to predict the next market reaction.
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March 07, 2025, 08:48:58 AM
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First the first question you need to ask yourself is, where does the money I earn come from, or, where does the money I lose in the financial markets come from.
People make us believe that the market moves based on supply and demand when this is totally false. On the contrary, the market rises when there are many sellers and Shiites when there are many buyers.

Of a truth we need to take note of this things basically cause they mattter in every way in making us successful in trading but the first thing is having ground knowledge about the markets and how it flows, then I'm trying to understand that we are the liquidity because we tend to buy and sell and this patterns changes the price thereby causing liquidity, so being a successful trader isn't an easy task because you have to be ready to face anything that comes in.

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March 07, 2025, 12:13:19 PM
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First the first question you need to ask yourself is, where does the money I earn come from, or, where does the money I lose in the financial markets come from.
People make us believe that the market moves based on supply and demand when this is totally false. On the contrary, the market rises when there are many sellers and Shiites when there are many buyers.

Of a truth we need to take note of this things basically cause they mattter in every way in making us successful in trading but the first thing is having ground knowledge about the markets and how it flows, then I'm trying to understand that we are the liquidity because we tend to buy and sell and this patterns changes the price thereby causing liquidity, so being a successful trader isn't an easy task because you have to be ready to face anything that comes in.

Trading is not as easy as some people think and it's usually advised that people should only risk the amount they can afford to lose because it's very easy to lose money and so many people are trading with their emotions, fear, lack of discipline, improper risk management etc, that's why they will never become successful at trading.

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March 07, 2025, 01:12:07 PM
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There's no need of mentors when someone is really into trading. Most of the educational material regarding trading is still available on YouTube but most of the newbies don't really watch those material and start dreaming about getting rich after watching videos of influencers. If they begin properly and learn patience and self control then they can become top traders but still everything can't be a good trader and everyone can't make money from crypto market or from any market.
Before dreaming of becoming a crypto trader, we've to set standards and become concentrated on our fields, the market will always bring hurdles on our paths but ensuring we stick to proper planning and totally eradicating errors from our ends, the longevity will be prominent. Succeeding in trading is all about determination, discipline, having the right tools for trading. It's important to learn about the basis of trading. Crypto tutors in the market, they're made already and we should never compare ourselves to them, rather dash in to the learning aspects and practice everything been taught. Crypto made successful traders, they live extravagant lifestyle, I will urge the newbies to take a pause because their time is coming, learn the basis and ignore all aspects of triggering trades more harmful to one.
There are many things to learn about trading if you want to become a successful traders and it's not really about trading and understanding the market. Your personality and how you see the market would also be an input factor for your when trading the market.
There are people that have these patience in them and they don't go too quick when they are making decisions.

This is one of the ways to trade in the market because running to trade the market is not the best way to enter the market. You could make loses if you don't focus and make use of your risk management. There are many things we need to put together if we really want to become a successful traders in the market. It is not just reading different analysis to predict the next market reaction.
Learning is everything on which you would really be that needing up to learn up things accordingly but on the time or moment that you will be able to meet up along the way then its impossible that you wont be able to make yourself that learn specially that on things that you dont know on which at the time that you do encounter then the things you dont be able to do so then you will be just simply absorbed it out.  Success isnt guaranteed since there would be tons of factors on which it wont be able to make yourself that reach out such goal. This is why its really that recommended that you do really know on how to make yourself that able to go along and will really be able to make yourself be versatile into the things that you will be able to encounter along the way. It wont really be easy but its not that impossible that you will be able to catch up. It all matters on how you would really be making out such action basing up into the situation or condition.

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March 07, 2025, 03:58:13 PM
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In trying to understand the manipulation of financial markets, the most important thing is to know where not to land.
Alright, OP you made some astonishing points which I definitely had to ponder on some, because they made a lot sense to me as I was reading and at same time imagining how the market behaves at times, it has mostly been that of manipulation from the whales.

As you have said in the op that traders should avoid relying on technical analysis tools in trying to determine the market, and now you said  about knowing where not to land so we don't get caught up in the net. So I am asking, if we have to avoid using the TA and FA, what then do we have to use as guide to have a soft landing?

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March 08, 2025, 05:44:26 AM
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In trading there will be profit and loss it is a platform where some will profit and some will lose the best thing is to learn better through your own efforts. The more you learn the more your knowledge about trading will increase patience is very important to achieve success in trading. You should gradually increase your trading knowledge and skills without dreaming of getting rich overnight. If you lose no one will fight against you you have to achieve profit through your own efforts.
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In trading there will be profit and loss it is a platform where some will profit and some will lose the best thing is to learn better through your own efforts. The more you learn the more your knowledge about trading will increase patience is very important to achieve success in trading. You should gradually increase your trading knowledge and skills without dreaming of getting rich overnight. If you lose no one will fight against you you have to achieve profit through your own efforts.
In other words, when we make a profit, there are other parties who do not make a profit/even lose, lose. Likewise, no matter how much profit we make, it opens up the possibility of other people's losses that they will face.

However, in the world of trading, there are principles that must be learned, first how not to lose, but this principle will train you to be able to apply solid risk management and discipline to cut losses. Second, not how to make a profit, this often creates false hopes and actually makes losses. It sounds paradoxical. We have to think about how not to lose, it turns out that it is more powerful than thinking about how to make a profit.
Because successful traders have a philosophy like that. They don't think about how to be successful. But they focus on thinking about how to minimize failure. If you can reduce the risk of failure, over time you will be successful yourself because you learn from experience.

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First the first question you need to ask yourself is, where does the money I earn come from, or, where does the money I lose in the financial markets come from.

If you can find the right answer to this question you will be very wary.

If you won $100 on the financial markets, know that someone else lost $100.

If you lose $100, know that someone else won $100.

Because trading is a zero-sum game. The money you keep or lose does not come from central banks, but rather from us individuals. We are the liquidity. And the big players in the market manipulate us as they wish.

People make us believe that the market moves based on supply and demand when this is totally false. On the contrary, the market rises when there are many sellers and Shiites when there are many buyers.

You have to avoid strategies that are popular, because they are the supply and demand, they are the liquidity. And the only purpose of the market is to get out, it is to trap them.

You should avoid using technical indicators. Because these indicators are not created with the purpose of making you profit, these indicators are just there to create liquidity.

If you think like everyone else or if you follow everything you see on the internet you will always lose. Because the movements that the market makes are not random. The market follows liquidity (follow the mass to trap the mass)

In trying to understand the manipulation of financial markets, the most important thing is to know where not to land.

This is what I wanted to share with you guys today, to open your eyes to some characters. Forget all the strategies that are popular guys because these are the strategies that Serve as liquidity to the market .

Ask questions if you have any, I will answer all your concerns.

The so called "strategy" is essentially what they use in buying us into
their systems and method although I term it as manipulation too.
And This theory is as same also in gambling too,the losses,the gains the insecurities from traders and even gamblers.
The skills needed to be a successful trader lies in the experiences because the strategy to reduce the risks of failure doesn't really come easy.

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March 28, 2025, 05:34:12 PM
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First the first question you need to ask yourself is, where does the money I earn come from, or, where does the money I lose in the financial markets come from.
People make us believe that the market moves based on supply and demand when this is totally false. On the contrary, the market rises when there are many sellers and Shiites when there are many buyers.

Of a truth we need to take note of this things basically cause they mattter in every way in making us successful in trading but the first thing is having ground knowledge about the markets and how it flows, then I'm trying to understand that we are the liquidity because we tend to buy and sell and this patterns changes the price thereby causing liquidity, so being a successful trader isn't an easy task because you have to be ready to face anything that comes in.

I am sure many traders are not aware of this that when we buy it means we have filled the liquidity of the coin (let's say we trade bitcoin) and when we sell then we withdraw the liquidity that we have filled and even though the price does not feel drastic but the chart will definitely change a little when we make a sale or purchase, so don't be surprised why the whales group can always guess the price.

Another important thing to be successful in trading is controlling emotions, this is something that not many novice traders can master quickly, it takes long flying hours and also repeated failures to be able to have a strong mentality in trading, forming yourself to become a great trader is not easy but it is not impossible if you are consistent and persistent.

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Quite weird to see people being wrong, but still confident, I never understood how those two work. If you are not sure about something, then you shouldn't be confident in it, and these things are not things you can be certain, it is literally impossible to be 100% certain about these topics, so you could only share your opinion, and what you think might be true, but you can't be certain.

And on things you are not certain about, why talk about it like you are so sure of yourself and have this much confidence with what you have. I would advise not following people like OP, it is a huge risk and we should try to make our own decisions that would be a smarter choice without a doubt and we could make money from it directly.

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Knowing strategies in trading is extremely important and the more experience you experience, the more success you can achieve in trading and investment. If you come here without experience it’s normal that you will lose all your money. You’re right when you’re making money someone else will lose that money, especially for trading and share markets where no profit or loss comes from others. As you mentioned, popular strategies cause market liquidity but they were not actually made for your profit. These strategies offer advantage to big players in the market. In this case, your own strategy and market monitoring is very nicely possible if you can benefit. And if you can apply your strategies correctly, you can be succesful.

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The money you keep or lose does not come from central banks, but rather from us individuals. We are the liquidity. And the big players in the market manipulate us as they wish.
If you cannot identify liquidity, you are liquidity. That is a very popular statement amongst traders, and the purpose is to encourage you to be more observant of liquidity sweeps.

Good and experienced traders know how to avoid liquidity sweeps, but new traders will always find themselves in a situation where the market acts in an opposite direction from the direction it is supposed to act, taking them out of the market and then continuing in the direction they expected it to go before it took them out of the market.

This happens mostly to new traders in the market. Being able to identify liquidity and not been used as liquidity is very important, so every trader as they get to understand the trading market tend to not be used as one and are most cautious of that. Liquidity sweep is one that will take you out quickly by hitting your SL and then come back and continue in your direction. If you have a small account, you wound most definitely already liquidated before the market will begin to go your direction which is painful and discouraging.

Knowing where liquidity is and dodging it is very important and one of the characteristics of a good trader. Market always I to where liquidity is to sweep them all before they continue in the direction that they are to for the actual trend of the market. Liquidity is just like pull backs to take along the money they’ve left behind. So don’t be the liquidity to be swept but enter the market along in the opposite directing after liquidity is swept.

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When I saw the title of this post, I thought I'm going to see something different from what I've known from the past.
All these are normal but you need to understand that if you don't know how to place trade correctly and get the right signal that will give you the profit you are looking for, you could be surprised that you'll be liquidated without you knowing. Trading is far more than this and I will like you to understand that fact so you don't keep thinking trading is just all about doing all these trial things.
Trading is more than all these things you have tables down for us dude!
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Knowing strategies in trading is extremely important and the more experience you experience, the more success you can achieve in trading and investment. If you come here without experience it’s normal that you will lose all your money. You’re right when you’re making money someone else will lose that money, especially for trading and share markets where no profit or loss comes from others. As you mentioned, popular strategies cause market liquidity but they were not actually made for your profit. These strategies offer advantage to big players in the market. In this case, your own strategy and market monitoring is very nicely possible if you can benefit. And if you can apply your strategies correctly, you can be succesful.
There are both advantages and disadvantages of the market. We read useful information that will become helpful to us in the market. We're not bots that always know what to do because we're programmed, that's not the case. We do things at our very own space, knotting every ties to stay put and expecting the very profits coming our way. Been successful in the market uniquely depend on our deploy strategies towards our trading positions and investments in the market. So tell me, what more can we do other than settling for the anticipated pattern we derived for the system?
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The money you keep or lose does not come from central banks, but rather from us individuals. We are the liquidity. And the big players in the market manipulate us as they wish.
If you cannot identify liquidity, you are liquidity. That is a very popular statement amongst traders, and the purpose is to encourage you to be more observant of liquidity sweeps.

Good and experienced traders know how to avoid liquidity sweeps, but new traders will always find themselves in a situation where the market acts in an opposite direction from the direction it is supposed to act, taking them out of the market and then continuing in the direction they expected it to go before it took them out of the market.

This happens mostly to new traders in the market. Being able to identify liquidity and not been used as liquidity is very important, so every trader as they get to understand the trading market tend to not be used as one and are most cautious of that. Liquidity sweep is one that will take you out quickly by hitting your SL and then come back and continue in your direction. If you have a small account, you wound most definitely already liquidated before the market will begin to go your direction which is painful and discouraging.

Knowing where liquidity is and dodging it is very important and one of the characteristics of a good trader. Market always I to where liquidity is to sweep them all before they continue in the direction that they are to for the actual trend of the market. Liquidity is just like pull backs to take along the money they’ve left behind. So don’t be the liquidity to be swept but enter the market along in the opposite directing after liquidity is swept.
External and internal liquidities are the most important thing that you do need to known on trading field. Doesnt matter on which market you do get involved with as long you do know these things and other stuffs in correlated with liquidity and same goes for those imbalances then you do have the idea on what are those then you do know at least on what you should gonna do. Market do only composed of imbalances, liquidity and manipulation on which you do need up to consider to learn through. Speaking about success then its not something that you can be able to obtain in a short time period. You will definitely be experiencing tons of challenges and problems on which you do need to face on and make yourself that versatile as much as possible. Dont rush up yourself on learning through because if you do hurry up yourself that this will be that doing those common actions on which ended up on mistakes or errors.

Going back into that liquidity sweep then its a main point that need up to consider. The next question on where if on the time that there's a sweep, would be able to have that reversal or be having that continuation? These are the questions that comes up into your mind once you found yourself reaching out those points and making certain decisions.
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Trading is a zero sum game that’s true. However bitcoin always attracts more investors because of its properties and that means if hodl btc long enough, you’ll eventually come out on top. Hodling is a form of trading too. It is just you sell way way way later instead of making trades every day or week.

In the long run there will be more investors interested in btc and that’s why you’ll be making money in a safe and effective way. When you make trades daily, the total money invested in the space don’t change dramatically so that means you are trying to take other people’s money by outsmarting them with your positions. that’s a risky route to take.

Just buy and hodl and you’ll get your guaranteed returns. Stop with the get rich quick mentality, it will take you nowhere.
Trading may guarantee us good returns but only for those who know well how to trade and how trading works. The rest are just pretending to be good and reliable traders but in the long run, all they gained are nothing but consistent losses.

So this is clearly a proof that trading is really a hard and tough game. If you can’t do it, do not force yourself. Instead, just buy and hold, you’re still in the process of making profits but in a less risky and long term approach.
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Quite weird to see people being wrong, but still confident, I never understood how those two work. If you are not sure about something, then you shouldn't be confident in it, and these things are not things you can be certain, it is literally impossible to be 100% certain about these topics, so you could only share your opinion, and what you think might be true, but you can't be certain.

And on things you are not certain about, why talk about it like you are so sure of yourself and have this much confidence with what you have. I would advise not following people like OP, it is a huge risk and we should try to make our own decisions that would be a smarter choice without a doubt and we could make money from it directly.
Everyone is free to share opinions and ideas, but giving suggestions and advices, especially in the field of trading, that’s a very risky part if you are still not completely inclined to trading. You might be held accountable when these beginner traders will follow what you have suggested.

The best solution is, every trader should learn on his own. There are no perfect strategies in trading, or perfect ways to be successful, so if you want to succeed, you better create your own potentials in trading and make your mistakes and losses create valuable lessons for you that will be a lot helpful in order to maximize your trading success.


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It is possible to benefit from editing if you have general trading experience and risk tolerance, as far as I know because I have been trading in the past.  Not that I have always benefited, but at different times I have suffered in different ways.  But after some experience and technique I tried to calm myself down, but now I take a rest like gambling with little profit from training.
Trading will cause losses and you have to accept this loss and trade. Trading is a very risky platform, here you have to take the maximum to make money. How are you resting like gambling with very little profit from the trading platform because trading is one thing and gambling is another. If you do not have your own strategy, you will not be able to make money from trading. Of course, you need your own strategy to make money, but one of them is that you cannot be overly greedy and cannot trade with too much emotion and never trade with debt. If you can gain experience and adopt these few strategies on the trading platform, then losses can be mitigated to a great extent on the trading platform.

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April 14, 2025, 02:17:30 PM
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Experience is what that matters most in trading. If you use indicators but you do not have experience in trading, you will lose more often because making profit in trading is not only about indicators. Although the indicators are still very important because it will still help you make good analyses which is their work and not for making profit in trading.

Using indicators isn't really a bad idea but it becomes more helpful to you when you understand the market..a beginner that doesn't have much knowledge of the market should not use indicators, as beginners you must focus on gaining knowledge and knowing your way around the market.. indicators might put you in profit but you cannot always rely on it constantly, develop and have your own strategy. This would obviously yield more results

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