Buying vs trading

[robertcarlyle]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

[franky1]

the words buying and 'trading to acquire' mean the same thing, as the acquire part indicates a buy, not a sell

but just the word 'trading' is the action of selling or buying which is where it discusses 2 people trading (the buyer and seller)
but just the word 'trading' is the action of selling and buying which is where it discusses 1 repeatedly trading (buy low sell high repeat)

seems you are now asking silly questions google can tell you answers to in seconds in regard to grammar and definitions. please use a dictionary and not spam the forum

as for today "buying at a fixed price"
people (mostly wealthy people) dont use publicly open exchanges to trade, but instead do private deals using contracts which stipulate a fixed price
for instance doing a deal with a mining pool or an asic farm, whereby a investor does a contract to pay fiat upfront to cover the miners costs, to then be given any/all/some of the block rewards for the next X months at y fixed rate
other things called 'darkpools'(not confused with darknet), OTC platforms, private contract brokers. allow for private trades to be done to buy or sell outside of public price discovering exchange markets

[Mia Chloe]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

There are a couple of major things that actually differentiates them and one of them is actually risk to reward ratio. You will find out that buying bitcoin puts you in a position of way lower risk in term of profit and loss compared to trading. In addition to this, you need to be able to make proper analysis to be able to get the most out of your bitcoin trades compared to just buying and hodling.

Nevertheless in general hodling bitcoin is way more easier than buying bitcoins. This is the reason why most people prefer to just buy rather than taking risks they can't guarantee by trading it when they don't have sufficient knowledge about it.

[freedomgo]

Whatever is easiest for you, just do that.

If you don’t have technical trading skills, I suggest keeping it simple - just buy and hold for the long term. If early buyers were able to make a decent profit, then following their strategy isn’t a bad idea.

At the end of the day, only you know your own skills in investing. But like I said, keep it simple, buy and hold. It’s a proven strategy that has made investors profitable, especially those who trust Bitcoin and don’t panic when the market goes bearish.

[tabas]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it? 

It both means exchanging your money for Bitcoin. So, whatever is the best way for you to have bitcoin then you do it. If it means you buying using your fiat, just do it. But if you have a better strategy by trading it with someone with whatever you own in exchange of Bitcoin then you have to do it as well.

How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

Mostly, long time ago it's about P2P although there's still P2P markets nowadays but many prefer to just do it within the market's centralized exchanges.

[Su-asa]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

Your questions are not well aligned, you should have make it proper for people to understand.
However, the question I expected you to ask as a newbie on the crypto space is "bitcoin investment and trading which is the best to do". Buying and selling is also part of trading because you send to someone and get fiat, so it's called trade.
If you looking forward to make gains through Bitcoin, you must invest for long term, maybe 2 circles or more.

[arwin100]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

Maybe you should clarify the exact question you would ask since you cannot do trade if you don't buy Bitcoin.

But will assume that you talk about long term holding or HODL vs Trading.

Long term holding require patience or consistency since the only thing you need here is to buy Bitcoin at whatever price it reach. Your primary target is to accumulate as many Bitcoins as you can since usually the target years set by people engaging with this type of invest will last minimum to 4 years and maximum to 10 years.

Trading usually it goes with short term activities and I'm not actually comfortable trading Bitcoin for short term since usually we would never get any good result with it. But if you want to try just to experience things maybe try to work with those things and see for yourself on what methods or investment type you want to execute.

[Zigabel]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

Bitcoin isn't bought at a fixed price,  the price varies due to the increase in the value as the day goes by, buy Bitcoin differs from trading Bitcoin,  you only trade it on trading platforms and exchanges but you can buy from individuals and on those trading platforms too.

When buying on the trading platforms you see the real time price as it moves with the variations and you can actually convert from one cryptocurrency to another on those platforms before and after trading,  but with buying you just acquire these assets and keep in your wallet and you get only small effects of the market volatiles affecting your assets when volatility is high but while trading u experience it real time, so the difference is just clear.

[Salahmu]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

Buying Bitcoin and trading it is interrelated but doesn't actually mean one side because we have people who loves trading and we also have people who do more of storing Bitcoin, so both parties couldn't have attained any Bitcoin without buying it, so the only way for a trader to do their trading is after they bought Bitcoin while the holders also buys Bitcoin but with no intention of selling it as soon as they bought it. However I don't remember the days you are talking about only buying Bitcoin for others to trade for them, it has never been a custom for Bitcoin but is only for individuals who had the need to.

[Franctoshi]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

You might have gotten a bit of confused, I guess you mean buying Bitcoin (HODL) and trading (leverage) “acquire” means to (own) which involves holding Bitcoin, whereas trading involves both buying and selling of Bitcoin, you trade, buy or sell to make profit, basically when the price is low (buy) and sell when the price is high (sell).
Therefore, if you're looking for the best way to profit from Bitcoin, HODL got you covered. Don't trade leverage if you are a newbie, leverage is meant for experience and pro traders.

[BlackBoss_]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

It's your private keys, it's your bitcoins.

If you understand this saying, also a big warning, you will never give your money and bitcoin to someone else holding it for you, and doing anything for you like investment or trading with your money or bitcoin.

Buying it, storing it, investing it, trading it, let's do it all by yourself.

Trading is not easy and doesn't give you great ROI like holding Bitcoin. See the following ROI table.
https://casebitcoin.com/charts

Do you think by trading, you will get +9.5 million% ROI after 14 years?

[Rustam Meraj]

Difference between buying bitcoin and trading it with someone is how you get it. Buying bitcoin usually means paying fixed price through website or broker. Trading bitcoin with someone on the other hand means agreeing on price with that person. Long time ago people mostly traded bitcoin with each other at prices they agreed on mostly online. This was because there were no big websites to buy and sell bitcoin safely. As time passed these websites appeared making it easier and safer to buy and sell bitcoin at fixed prices which is how most people do it today.

[EarnOnVictor]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?

Trading and investing are different, if you are engaging in the margin, leveraged and futures markets, you are trading. This is different from buying on the spot market or directly into your wallet. In the former, you risk losing all your money to liquidation if the price moves too much against your position. But in Investing, you can never lose all your money even if your asset devalues and it will gain back for you if it moves above your buying price.

How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

This is a good question which shows you are thoughtful. Bitcoin moves in price and the lower the price, the cheaper it is and the more money you can make from it. For this, Bitcoin is better bought in the past than now and it becomes riskier to buy with decreased possible gains as it progresses.

[Darker45]

There is no difference. What is actually buying Bitcoin? It's trading your money with Bitcoin based on a certain price.

I'm not sure if I'm getting your point, but as far as buying Bitcoin is concerned, the early days and today aren't really different. What do you exactly mean by the early days aren't about "actually buying it" but "paying someone else to trade it"? Is there a difference between "buying it" and "paying someone" to acquire it?

Perhaps you mean to say there wasn't a fixed price back then, and buyers would only negotiate with Bitcoin owners as to how much Bitcoin they would get for a certain amount of money? Yeah, there was a point when such deals exist.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it? 

This is somehow complicated.

If you are buying Bitcoin, it's either to hold for a long term investment or holding for a specific period of time, depending on what you want, but trading could be just specifically for short terms profit, is that what you mean?  In trading, you are not holding the Bitcoin for long term but just predicting the price movement in the trading pair of your interest (BTC/USDT for example). The difference is that buying (holding) is much simple, while trading is riskier.

[franky1]

I'm not sure if I'm getting your point, but as far as buying Bitcoin is concerned, the early days and today aren't really different. What do you exactly mean by the early days aren't about "actually buying it" but "paying someone else to trade it"? Is there a difference between "buying it" and "paying someone" to acquire it?

from reading his other messages on other topics and also PM's he has attempted to annoyingly send me, i believe what he is hinting at is if there was anyone not just buying bitcoin, but using a portfolio manager/broker who would use your bitcoin and day trade it for you to accumulate more so you dont have to do the hard work of trading it yourself

his questions are attempts to learn what someone living in the era of bitcoin in 2009-10 would experience or would be doing with their bitcoin to acquire and accumulate, so he can build a story about him being such a person(in a future con/scam attempt using a alt account)

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his yet to realise fault in this charade is although he wants to use stories to provide proof of early adoption (much like craig wright does) the community will simply want to see a signed message of btc held.. and boom his time is wasted and no one beleives him (much like the craig wright saga)
yep he is trying to learn all he can to be craig wright 2.0, but as a early adopter instead of satoshi himself

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i dont mind answering the questions, because other real newbie readers might find it interesting... because i know this guys con/scam will fail due to lack of proof (message signing), which people will ask him for. so ill let him waste his time.. but wish he would atleast keep his questions together in one topic instead of spamming the forum with new topics per post of the same scenario story he wants to create

[Hewlet]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

this looks a bit confusing considering the way you made use of the words, buying, trading relating it to how it was in the past and the present. in the past and even at present, people buy bitcoin through p2p trading which might make it look like the term buying and trading is of the same use. if the intent is to buy bitcoin, then either you make use of buying through p2p channels in an exchange or directly buy from someone that wants to sell his, the end product is that you have been able to buy your bitcoin through some available channels. the other context of trading which mostly involves a short term form of buying and selling bitcoin or any coin is just another way of investing on a short term bases.

[Patikno]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

Basically Trading is activity of buying and selling, or exchangin, goods and/or services between people or even countries. The point is Buying is included in Trading, so I think it's same. Regarding the change that you mentioned, i think nothing change about it and it's based on offering and demanding, and it's still always same time by the time, and the fixed price also.

Source :  Cambridge - Trade

[Zaguru12]

Basically Trading is activity of buying and selling, or exchangin, goods and/or services between people or even countries. The point is Buying is included in Trading, so I think it's same. Regarding the change that you mentioned, i think nothing change about it and it's based on offering and demanding, and it's still always same time by the time, and the fixed price also.
 

It is simple that you cannot buy without anyone selling and for that to be happening it simply means that trading as occured so no long explanations on this. The thing is most members here or on the crypto space have usually tried to separate the two with buying simply means you purchase and hold for a longer period of time while the regard trading as the buying and selling over a short period of time like daily, weekly, monthly and so on not just having hodl. Also the word trading most used by traders here are for most likely future trading or leverage trading which I think is what OP is on about.

For me the better option between the two (buying and trading) is basically buying which means you hodl your coins for as long as you want, as long as it is a coin like bitcoin which promises profits after long term hold the risk of losing is definitely so minimal. As for trading it is way too risky and more so not a place for a newbie without knowledge most especially those leverage trading

[Frankolala]

Whats the difference between actually buying bitcoin and trading it with someone for a price in order to acquire it?  Werent the early days the latter and not actually buying it but paying someone else to trade it and thus acquiring it?  How did "buying" bitcoin a really long time ago change from how today people buy it at a fixed price?

If you want to trade with your bitcoin, it's better you learn how to trade yourself because there are materials on the internet that can guide you. Nowadays, giving someone your bitcoin to trade for you means that you are investing for someone, because you will get scam. If you cannot trade on your own, it's better that you buy and hodli for long term with little risk. When you buy or sell bitcoin, you are trading.