For every great wealth it's a hard grind ? Equally good and bad

[Fullbear2222]

Its hard grind ?
They say that life is fair even If people don't see that.
Even If wealthy and very successful people talking about how hard its been those with lower still got hard time to accept this because once you see someone with high success no matter they say "they had hard times" lower position people can't still belive that because they look at them on very moment and things seems to be good.
They say that in order to get more than others it requires to not follow by any public opinions and be the creator not the follower.

They say that there is rule: 50/50 universe splits all If you want "1000 units" of good you must get something like "1000 units" of bad too.  
That's why the chess board shows very well the rule of life and rule of duality and balance.
It's not smart to think that people who got 1 bil units of good never experinced same amount of BAD.
conclusion here is If you decide to get large amount of good then be ready to take equal amount of BAD too.

So higher the building the deeper you need to digg first, some people lifes so ruined so long time because they got themselfes higher goals and for them off course they have to go through bigger struggles then other ones.


Is that true ?

[Natalim]

Everything comes with price. If you set for a higher level of your goal, then get ready to face some bigger struggles and obstacles before you will achieve your goal. There’s no instant way to success and wealth, you have to pay the price first and even experience losses and frustrations for the time being. If you quit, you lose. But if you keep on moving forward and continue to learn from your mistakes, you’ll definitely win in the end. And just like Warren Buffett said, “Price is what you pay, Value is what you get”.

[franky1]

if you have $100(good) but then owe $100 debt(bad) you are left at $0

fullbear has never heard of 'cumulative interest'

if you want 1000 units. you simply use 100units of your own(good) and get 10 units(10%) in return from someone else(good for you, bad for them)
next time you can use 90 units and of the 190total get 19 units totalling 209
next time you can use 80 units and of the 288total get 28 units totalling 316
next time you can use 70 units and of the 386total get 38 units totalling 424
next time you can use 60 units and of the 486total get 48 units totalling 534
next time you can use 50 units and of the 584total get 58 units totalling 642
next time you can use 40 units and of the 682total get 68 units totalling 750
next time you can use 30 units and of the 780total get 78 units totalling 858
next time you can use 20 units and of the 878total get 87 units totalling 965
next time you can use 0 units and of the 965total get 96 units totalling 1061
next time you can use 0 units and of the 1061total get 106 units totalling 1167
next time you can use 0 units and of the 1167total get 116 units totalling 1283
and so on

so you provide 540 and end up with 1061, growing to 1167, growing to 1283 and so on

heck you can then take out 100 units and still grow your accumulation
next time you can TAKE 100 units and of the 1183total get 118 units totalling 1301
next time you can TAKE 100 units and of the 1201total get 120 units totalling 1321

and thats how the wealthy do it

[Roseline492]

It depends on the goal and also the person in question because we have different kind of financial status and each status has a limit to how they would get their goal at the moment, so if they set it above their status it causes a financial setback for them, while those with a big financial status can budget for a higher goal because of the availability of the resources and certainly they would be successful. So actually the digging starts when the capacity and capabilities is not sufficient then it becomes true that higher goal is a problem, however nothing is achieved without a sad moment which is also called a difficult time, I presume that's what you meant by 1000 good and bad.

[Squaremile777]

Its hard grind ?
They say that life is fair even If people don't see that.
Even If wealthy and very successful people talking about how hard its been those with lower still got hard time to accept this because once you see someone with high success no matter they say "they had hard times" lower position people can't still belive that because they look at them on very moment and things seems to be good.
They say that in order to get more than others it requires to not follow by any public opinions and be the creator not the follower.

They say that there is rule: 50/50 universe splits all If you want "1000 units" of good you must get something like "1000 units" of bad too.  
That's why the chess board shows very well the rule of life and rule of duality and balance.
It's not smart to think that people who got 1 bil units of good never experinced same amount of BAD.
conclusion here is If you decide to get large amount of good then be ready to take equal amount of BAD too.

So higher the building the deeper you need to digg first, some people lifes so ruined so long time because they got themselfes higher goals and for them off course they have to go through bigger struggles then other ones.


Is that true ?

For example there is 2 type of people!
1. Going to School university and working at McDonald's besides university at the end can get good Job and good life.
2.person who think he go right to work but might end up not doing well on the long run.

Also, person who been grinding too hard might end up to finish line finally off course but broken wrecked and health totally destroyed.
I use to know someone who use to do criminal things in his whole life time ....finally he got status like mobster , everybody was so envy about his status.....but at the end he die from the Young age because of bad health all this years he been shooting others and get shot fights and living in prisons over 10 years bad food and other issues YES finally he gets there what he wanted nice mansion even sport cars like lambo Ferrari and nicest wife you can imagine but then suddenly he dies...from the stomack cancer even tho....he been eating recently heatly and working out so visually looking like was in good shape was just 50 years old and finally found peacful life and got all the wealth he had dreamed! - so we humans not robots question is how much we can take it to get there where we want.

[Fullbear2222]

if you have $100(good) but then owe $100 debt(bad) you are left at $0

fullbear has never heard of 'cumulative interest'

if you want 1000 units. you simply use 100units of your own(good) and get 10 units(10%) in return from someone else(good for you, bad for them)
next time you can use 90 units and of the 190total get 19 units totalling 209
next time you can use 80 units and of the 288total get 28 units totalling 316
next time you can use 70 units and of the 386total get 38 units totalling 424
next time you can use 60 units and of the 486total get 48 units totalling 534
next time you can use 50 units and of the 584total get 58 units totalling 642
next time you can use 40 units and of the 682total get 68 units totalling 750
next time you can use 30 units and of the 780total get 78 units totalling 858
next time you can use 20 units and of the 878total get 87 units totalling 965
next time you can use 0 units and of the 965total get 96 units totalling 1061
next time you can use 0 units and of the 1061total get 106 units totalling 1167
next time you can use 0 units and of the 1167total get 116 units totalling 1283
and so on

so you provide 540 and end up with 1061, growing to 1167, growing to 1283 and so on

heck you can then take out 100 units and still grow your accumulation
next time you can TAKE 100 units and of the 1183total get 118 units totalling 1301
next time you can TAKE 100 units and of the 1201total get 120 units totalling 1321

and thats how the wealthy do it

Looks little consfused, so i how to transalte this into real life actions with some example of life ?
How does one takes that 100 units or whatever and at the end will return this to Ferrari or mansion or something else?
And how we know how many units we got ? By your theory

[Shortmaster]

Its hard grind ?
They say that life is fair even If people don't see that.
Even If wealthy and very successful people talking about how hard its been those with lower still got hard time to accept this because once you see someone with high success no matter they say "they had hard times" lower position people can't still belive that because they look at them on very moment and things seems to be good.
They say that in order to get more than others it requires to not follow by any public opinions and be the creator not the follower.

They say that there is rule: 50/50 universe splits all If you want "1000 units" of good you must get something like "1000 units" of bad too.  
That's why the chess board shows very well the rule of life and rule of duality and balance.
It's not smart to think that people who got 1 bil units of good never experinced same amount of BAD.
conclusion here is If you decide to get large amount of good then be ready to take equal amount of BAD too.

So higher the building the deeper you need to digg first, some people lifes so ruined so long time because they got themselfes higher goals and for them off course they have to go through bigger struggles then other ones.


Is that true ?

If you grind hard and long i might just choose the SHORT CUT....but what is the shortcut....lottery winning? But then again If you never learned and grinding hard you might just use money you won for wrong ways and lose it.
Once someone told me....i was asking....wow you are so rich he told me "belive me you don't want that " then i said what you mean i don't ....you got all the nice things and you don't work even 9-5 Job how can you say that you don't want that lol.

[franky1]

because your topic is about wealth.. not happiness via karma(good and bad)
to translate... units=money

wealthy people invest
you however think wealth is earned by good or bad karma..
sorry but no.. wealthy people invest money and get money in return(interest)

im not sure why you think karma(good bad) = wealth

..
also what you learn about wealth and cumulative growth, is that you dont have to continually grind forever
as the example i showed before. each attempt requires less effort(grind), to a point that you no longer need to put in anything and instead can start taking out an amount and still gain.. so wealth is not a constant grind if you invest and do it cumulatively

[Victorybit1]

Success comes with sacrifice and being ready to pay the price attain it. Some got to the top through bad routes and some people were patient and dedicated enough to stick to following the honest way. But before making money or becoming successful through dubious means you must remember that karma is real and it can come back for you at any time. There's nothing more important than maintaining your integrity. A lot of people believe that if they don't get their hands dirty they won't succeed, this is absolutely false. There are people that still become successful legitimately, it's all about consistency and patience.

[btc78]

It's not smart to think that people who got 1 bil units of good never experinced same amount of BAD.
conclusion here is If you decide to get large amount of good then be ready to take equal amount of BAD too.

i guess what you are saying is that you should not expect to succeed without failing first at that is right there is no easy way towards success you are going to have to work hard and you will definitely fail at times but it doesn’t mean it should end there if you want success be prepared to fail

[Fortify]

Its hard grind ?
They say that life is fair even If people don't see that.
Even If wealthy and very successful people talking about how hard its been those with lower still got hard time to accept this because once you see someone with high success no matter they say "they had hard times" lower position people can't still belive that because they look at them on very moment and things seems to be good.
They say that in order to get more than others it requires to not follow by any public opinions and be the creator not the follower.

They say that there is rule: 50/50 universe splits all If you want "1000 units" of good you must get something like "1000 units" of bad too.  
That's why the chess board shows very well the rule of life and rule of duality and balance.
It's not smart to think that people who got 1 bil units of good never experinced same amount of BAD.
conclusion here is If you decide to get large amount of good then be ready to take equal amount of BAD too.

So higher the building the deeper you need to digg first, some people lifes so ruined so long time because they got themselfes higher goals and for them off course they have to go through bigger struggles then other ones.

Is that true ?

Half of your post is rambling about karma but doesn't quite make sense. I'd like to think that something like karma exists, except it is more along the lines of "treat people how you would like to be treated". I personally will treat everyone with the same amount of respect, whether they are a toilet cleaner or the CEO of a company, that is just good manners. The same with lying, you should avoid it to the utmost, because it will lead you down some very bad paths if you normalize that behavior. Back to the main point though, which is - not every rich person worked hard for it, some inherited it, some got lucky purchasing an asset that exploded in value but generally they were doing something and keeping their eyes open for opportunities to leap on.

[Pi-network314159]

Everything comes with price. If you set for a higher level of your goal, then get ready to face some bigger struggles and obstacles before you will achieve your goal. There’s no instant way to success and wealth, you have to pay the price first and even experience losses and frustrations for the time being. If you quit, you lose. But if you keep on moving forward and continue to learn from your mistakes, you’ll definitely win in the end. And just like Warren Buffett said, “Price is what you pay, Value is what you get”.

You have just summarized everything by your reply. Success comes with lots of sacrifice and those that endure it to the end will have story to tell. It is said that " a journey of a thousand miles begins with a step" and this step includes life challenges like loss, disappointment, failure, setback and so many challenges of life. But we must grab it with faith and victory will be achieved. " Aluta continua Victoria accerta" meaning struggling continues till victory is achieved.

[Churchillvv]

One thing I've learnt is that it's not really about working hard to be successful but it's all about what you do with the little that comes from your hard work.
Our problems sometimes is trying to impress people with living beyond our means while we could invest all that money we use to try to live comfortably at a level where we can live uncomfortable and produce something that could give use double of what we want to live like at some point.

It's the real deal with the rich, they live below what they can afford and put all that they have left into what will bring interest even though the interest is not really big but at least it should be consistent rather than big and short that's just the logic and that's what people might seem to educate with but in different methods.

[Onyeeze]

if you have $100(good) but then owe $100 debt(bad) you are left at $0

That should be a mistake anyone can make, but you can escape from debt if the person think widely, the one hundred dollar at hand you can invest it to short term invest and check if with profits you can clear your debts, but a process whereby you fail to channel the $100 to a place it will yield a little profit that means your are debtor, which the debt can be a future debts because the person doesn't have hope to repay.

[franky1]

if you have $100(good) but then owe $100 debt(bad) you are left at $0

That should be a mistake anyone can make, but you can escape from debt if the person think widely, the one hundred dollar at hand you can invest it to short term invest and check if with profits you can clear your debts, but a process whereby you fail to channel the $100 to a place it will yield a little profit that means your are debtor, which the debt can be a future debts because the person doesn't have hope to repay.

here is the thing though
although investment accrues profit, so does debt. and usually the debt interest is higher than investment interest(in tradfi investments)

trying to use just $100 to invest on its own. and hoping that the separate $100 debt+interest doesnt come due before your $100 investment becomes $300 to then pay off the debt($100) plus the accrued debt interest($100) is also a bad plan

most debt comes due alot sooner than you can accumulate fiat investment profits to pay it off plus the interest and still have funds left
your best bet is to try not to be in debt in the first place. (avoid the bad)

much like investment comes with the need for patience and the determination to not cash out to soon, to give investment time to accumulate, you should also use such patience to not want products immediately to use credit to get items now. instead learn to plan ahead and only buy what you can afford.

again a lesson is not to invest $100 and get in debt by $100 to balance your karma.. but instead just dont get into $100 debt.. stay positive is better then stay balance (good and bad)

[Mr.sprin]

i guess what you are saying is that you should not expect to succeed without failing first at that is right there is no easy way towards success you are going to have to work hard and you will definitely fail at times but it doesn’t mean it should end there if you want success be prepared to fail

Yes, bro, that's right, no one is successful without going through any obstacles, the bigger the obstacles we miss, the bigger our sacrifices will be to achieve success, because we have to pursue success with enthusiasm, success doesn't come to people who are lazy, success comes to people who keep trying as hard as they can, failure is not something we want to achieve but failure is part of our achievement towards success, so never give up when we fail to get to the point where success is waiting, the more we fail the stronger we are in achieving it all.

[TheUltraElite]

To most people success comes by going through bad times, struggle and working hard. A few are born with generational wealth too.

So the grind is there, more in the developing countries compared to developed countries. Along with this the ability to think out of the box and creativity with proper acquisition of skills makes the person stand out.

However for most people it is just a matter of how determined and hard working they are.

[Yucky]

Indeed, "heavy lies the head that wears the crown". And for sure, some people are born into treasure but it doesn't mean they don't have struggles in other areas of life, maybe having a healthy relationship. Because life, has a way of balancing itself.

If I'm born into a poor family and I need to walk my way up to success in life, I'm going to cross a lot of seas and meet a lot of battles. That's my struggle. Then, if you're born into a rich family, there's a possibility you might have to struggle to either find a healthy relationship or struggle for something you want in life that is outside of wealth.

So, yes the higher you aim, the bigger your battles will be. You won't compare the battle of someone contesting for president to the better of someone contesting for House of Assembly or something. Bigger goals, bigger dreams, bigger hurdles too.

[el kaka22]

I would say that getting rich is not the subject of great hard grind or anything when it comes to how you do it, it's more about how there are other people who grind more than many wealthy people and never reach there.

So we can say that hard work isn't the key here, just because you work hard, doesn't mean that you are going to end up rich. Just because you are grinding, doesn't mean that you are going to be wealthy, that doesn't guarantee anything at all. Sure, all the rich people grind hard, but that is not all they do, they take risks and put themselves in risk, sometimes as much as near bankruptcy, and that's how they get there, with innovative and forward thinking that brings them success when they grind hard to provide something new.

[kryptqnick]

I believe that cases are different and circumstances are different. Apart from your actual effort you're putting into what you're doing, there are factors like your social background (and that directly affects the kind of upbringing and education you received), and luck (which country you happened to be born in and what happens there throughout your life; which people you happen to come across and connect with; which job opportunities you happen to get).
I work hard and I am doing well. But I am sure that there are other people working hard who weren't as lucky as myself in getting certain opportunities, as well as others who probably never had to go through the hardships I've had and reached a similar economic level with way less effort.