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February 06, 2025, 12:36:18 PM
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Reason or reasons behind suicide is best known to the suicider (committed, about to commit and will commit). Although the living can anticipate or predict..

Any how, suicide is ill and usually out of ill perceptions of life challenges. Conscience also must have caused suicide and will still cause more. But I wish healing out of what ever the reason behind suicide is..

What the suiciders do not know is that they can die even before committing suicide.
Death can knock any time anywhere. Making it unreasonable to commit suicide when it's not yet time for them to leave earth 🌎

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suicide is caused by many things.. and believing that someone in that mindset will just wait for natural death is silly.. because waiting for natural death is not suicide, its just living.. we(non-suicidal) people are all waiting/taking the long route to our deaths the natural way. but suicidal people cant wait for many reasons

sounds like the OP is a bible kissing religious nutter that thinks that people should wait for their invisible giant in the sky to tell them when the natural time is

suicide is due to people being physically or mentally in pain to such an extent they cant see an escape, apart from death. to them there is no other option. to them there is no ability to just wait around for natural death

usually people with suicide come to the "no other escape" mindset because they have either tried all other options.. or they dont have the support to have other options

and its foolish to think someone who is suicidal will just decide 'heck lets just wait around until im old and die naturally' all by themselves.
suicidal people need support and a understanding mind to have listen to them to find their needs and offer appropriate solutions that have a chance of changing a suicidal persons mind.

and no, being told "suicide is a sin" wont help.

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February 06, 2025, 06:05:31 PM
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What the suiciders do not know is that they can die even before committing suicide.
Death can knock any time anywhere. Making it unreasonable to commit suicide when it's not yet time for them to leave earth 🌎

Are you serious about this?
Everyone except child (infant or those child who haven't experienced anyone close to them die) are aware that we would all die and no one knows when would it happen.
People commit suicide because they couldn't deal with their emotional problems.
We couldn't even know how much they are suffering or how bad they felt before they even do it.
Not everyone could deal with depression and not everyone have someone that they could talk to lessen the heavy feelings that they have.
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February 06, 2025, 07:51:59 PM
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Alot can make a suicider take his life. It might be that he has given up on life and believes only death can safe him from the situation he is in. It's impossible for a suicider to die before committing suicide, because death has solved it and their is no point thinking of committing suicide. Why shorten your own life with your own hands, when you don't know tomorrow.

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February 06, 2025, 08:27:21 PM
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What the suiciders do not know is that they can die even before committing suicide.
Death can knock any time anywhere. Making it unreasonable to commit suicide when it's not yet time for them to leave earth 🌎
No one commits suicide when he's in his right state of mind to think of reasons not to commit the act or stay while waiting for death to occur naturally. The condition and situation that usually leads to suicide is one that makes it look really unreasonable to leave any longer hence the reason why victim would never think about waiting for death to come naturally.

Apart from looking at suicide from a religious point of view and instances when one is dragged to a right corner where failure to commit the act will result in one dieing a more painful death, the understanding that there is more to live for than dieing is enough to council any form of motivation that will push one into commiting the act of suicide. The effect it will have on the families you've left behind and the fact that commiting suicide doesn't solve any problem is enough reason one should not commit such act.

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February 06, 2025, 09:12:26 PM
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Anyone feeling suicidal is not thinking about a natiral death, they are feeling there
are no options open to them. Being so low with the pressures of dealing with the
problems to be faced can be all too much for some people, too much that they cannot
sit around and wait most likely until old age to die.

Thinking suicidal thoughts overshadows all other thoughts, thoughts that for the
rest of us are rational everyday norms.

The OP shows a lack of understanding of mental health and suicide.

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February 06, 2025, 09:20:11 PM
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Op, you should pray never to be in the situation where you think suicide is the best option cause you may not have the opportunity to think of waiting for your God or gods to take you so you die a natural death as the case may be cause a lot of people who took their lives I their own hands never saw it happening. Depression is one of the major reasons people takes their own life when you are in a situation beyond your control and above your capacity sometimes death by suicide could be the only thing ringing in your head. For whatever reason I do not believe suicide is the best way to get out of any kind of trouble, I don not encourage that and I will never do that.
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February 09, 2025, 07:23:52 AM
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Op, you should pray never to be in the situation where you think suicide is the best option cause you may not have the opportunity to think of waiting for your God or gods to take you so you die a natural death as the case may be cause a lot of people who took their lives I their own hands never saw it happening. Depression is one of the major reasons people takes their own life when you are in a situation beyond your control and above your capacity sometimes death by suicide could be the only thing ringing in your head. For whatever reason I do not believe suicide is the best way to get out of any kind of trouble, I don not encourage that and I will never do that.

Bad situations of course, but you say it's there thinking!!

Funny enough some reasons (obvious event why some committed suicide left people dumb) because this are circumstances that others are facing even harder ones yet finding a way through.

So if they don't think suicide is the best that means it won't happen
This means emotional intelligence is healthy way out of suicide


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Suicide is the final act of a very sad, depressed person that needs help. It’s difficult to resonate with the idea of suicide because you probably aren’t mentally in that place. I feel sad for anybody that feels they have to do it. There is help out there & if you’re feeling that way, remember there are people that care about you & help is available.
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February 09, 2025, 10:49:41 AM
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Suicide is the final act of a very sad, depressed person that needs help. It’s difficult to resonate with the idea of suicide because you probably aren’t mentally in that place. I feel sad for anybody that feels they have to do it. There is help out there & if you’re feeling that way, remember there are people that care about you & help is available.
There are so many reasons why people commit suicide but in some cases, they show that they are hopeless. They don't see any reason for living, that's why they want to end it all fast. A neighbor took his life because he was jilted by his girlfriend, I see it as madness. 

There is an increase in suicide websites where members are brainwashed to commit suicide. They are given information on how to buy "suicide kit" and the process of committing the act. I can conclude that social media has contributed to the rise of suicide cases. In this case, 'Suicide website users encouraged our teen son to drink poison'     

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February 09, 2025, 02:58:19 PM
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Suicide is the final act of a very sad, depressed person that needs help. It’s difficult to resonate with the idea of suicide because you probably aren’t mentally in that place. I feel sad for anybody that feels they have to do it. There is help out there & if you’re feeling that way, remember there are people that care about you & help is available.

Thanks for your words, those are the most humane and truthful there are in this thread so far.
I believe OP is likely a person who has their own ideas of what dying by one's own hand is, but has actually never experienced depression or anxiety by their own.
I have talked to people who suffer from depression and anxiety and need to take pills to keep going through their daily routine, and it is very tough, it is something I would never wish anyone to suffer.

This world is tough and unforgiving and sometimes people forgets there is always hope and reasons to keep going, we get lost and we feel there is nothing worth of fighting.

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Suicide is final. No more decisions can be made once you are dead. The next thing a suicide will see is Jesus calling him out of the grave into the final judgment. What will the answer be when He asks why you killed somebody (yourself)? You better have a good answer ready, like how you were protecting someone else's life. If you don't have a good answer, you might wind up in the torments of Hell for eternity.

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Op, you should pray never to be in the situation where you think suicide is the best option cause you may not have the opportunity to think of waiting for your God or gods to take you so you die a natural death as the case may be cause a lot of people who took their lives I their own hands never saw it happening. Depression is one of the major reasons people takes their own life when you are in a situation beyond your control and above your capacity sometimes death by suicide could be the only thing ringing in your head. For whatever reason I do not believe suicide is the best way to get out of any kind of trouble, I don not encourage that and I will never do that.

There is no kind of situation that will warrant someone to commit suicide no matter how severe what they are passing through is and no depression should lead someone to thinking that suicide is the escape in that immediate condition. In the locality where I live, people who commits suicide are buried in evil forest after some rituals has been performed because it is an abominable act. Anything that makes someone feel that suicide is the only way out of a situation is devilish. There are people who have seen and experience more worst conditions than the person that chooses to commit suicide so why then should he feel that their own case cannot be remedy. It is shameful and forbidden to terminate one's life and anyone who often have that feelings of suicide whenever they are facing great challenges should better pray harder otherwise they will give in one day.

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Op, you should pray never to be in the situation where you think suicide is the best option cause you may not have the opportunity to think of waiting for your God or gods to take you so you die a natural death as the case may be cause a lot of people who took their lives I their own hands never saw it happening. Depression is one of the major reasons people takes their own life when you are in a situation beyond your control and above your capacity sometimes death by suicide could be the only thing ringing in your head. For whatever reason I do not believe suicide is the best way to get out of any kind of trouble, I don not encourage that and I will never do that.

There is no kind of situation that will warrant someone to commit suicide no matter how severe what they are passing through is and no depression should lead someone to thinking that suicide is the escape in that immediate condition. In the locality where I live, people who commits suicide are buried in evil forest after some rituals has been performed because it is an abominable act. Anything that makes someone feel that suicide is the only way out of a situation is devilish. There are people who have seen and experience more worst conditions than the person that chooses to commit suicide so why then should he feel that their own case cannot be remedy. It is shameful and forbidden to terminate one's life and anyone who often have that feelings of suicide whenever they are facing great challenges should better pray harder otherwise they will give in one day.

Wrong! Imagine visiting the Grand Canyon with your wife. As you are looking over the edge together, the rocks start to give way. You have a choice... save her or save yourself.

So, you commit suicide to save her by pushing her toward a solid part of the ground that is not giving away, while it causes you to loose your footing and die in the rocks below.

It was stupid of the two of you both to get off the trail like this. But if you had not gone near the edge, there wouldn't have been any problem.

This kind of suicide is even accepted by Jesus, "Greater love has no man than this, that he give up his life for the lives of his friends."

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February 09, 2025, 11:20:20 PM
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A suicidal person can never be a person of sound mind, especially if he had even the slightest respect for this precious life, he would never commit suicide. If a person learns to value life and people, he will never want to commit a heinous sin like suicide. A suicidal person may not understand the importance of life before committing suicide, but when he commits suicide and dies, he understands the value of life, but then there is nothing else to do.

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February 09, 2025, 11:24:10 PM
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Suicide is the final act of a very sad, depressed person that needs help.
I reckon, I know a lot in my friends and relatives that have been through this. They even told me what they're going through and it's tough. Being mentally drained and depressed that are caused by many things, lifetyle, how to deal with problems are becoming heavier when the person affected by it is just the quiet one. Quiet in a way that even it's hard, they won't ask for any help because they don't want to be mocked. They think people will mock them for dealing with this problem because in the society, despite it being affected that we need to help people that deals with it, some are just ignoring the fact how stressing it is when you're on their shoe.
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February 10, 2025, 01:49:10 PM
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Reason or reasons behind suicide is best known to the suicider (committed, about to commit and will commit). Although the living can anticipate or predict..
I feel most of these suiciders don't even know or have a reason as to why they are carrying out the act of suicide.This is because a lot of them are being manipulated and brainwashed into doing this by those they look up to as leaders and role models who uses religious fallacies into making them see a meaning in what they are about to do.

But on the aspect of committing suicide on oneself either by hanging or taking poisonous substance, this transient beyond illiteracy but rather a case of emotional trauma and a loss of hope due to failure or hardship. If you get to notice someone who has been unnecessarily being quiet and moody, we should take some time to talk with them theu could be battling with some suicidal thoughts, and just talking with them could reveal a lot issues they're struggling with inside.

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February 10, 2025, 05:19:49 PM
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Suicide is never an option but some people who end up doing this feel like they have no other option or way out of their situation. It all starts with when they give up in their mind, this is why it's very important to be careful about the things you think about. People go through a lot that they don't share with anyone but no matter how bad you think your situation is suicide doesn't really solve the problem. If you don't know what's on the other side why take the risk of taking your life. In the end everyone's going to leave this world, so there's no need to make it happen quick. No matter how bad it might be stay sane and don't stress over things you can't control.
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Op, you should pray never to be in the situation where you think suicide is the best option cause you may not have the opportunity to think of waiting for your God or gods to take you so you die a natural death as the case may be cause a lot of people who took their lives I their own hands never saw it happening. Depression is one of the major reasons people takes their own life when you are in a situation beyond your control and above your capacity sometimes death by suicide could be the only thing ringing in your head. For whatever reason I do not believe suicide is the best way to get out of any kind of trouble, I don not encourage that and I will never do that.

There is no kind of situation that will warrant someone to commit suicide no matter how severe what they are passing through is and no depression should lead someone to thinking that suicide is the escape in that immediate condition. In the locality where I live, people who commits suicide are buried in evil forest after some rituals has been performed because it is an abominable act. Anything that makes someone feel that suicide is the only way out of a situation is devilish. There are people who have seen and experience more worst conditions than the person that chooses to commit suicide so why then should he feel that their own case cannot be remedy. It is shameful and forbidden to terminate one's life and anyone who often have that feelings of suicide whenever they are facing great challenges should better pray harder otherwise they will give in one day.
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Suicide is a bad perception that will continue to be bad

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February 20, 2025, 04:26:33 PM
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Op, you should pray never to be in the situation where you think suicide is the best option cause you may not have the opportunity to think of waiting for your God or gods to take you so you die a natural death as the case may be cause a lot of people who took their lives I their own hands never saw it happening. Depression is one of the major reasons people takes their own life when you are in a situation beyond your control and above your capacity sometimes death by suicide could be the only thing ringing in your head. For whatever reason I do not believe suicide is the best way to get out of any kind of trouble, I don not encourage that and I will never do that.

There is no kind of situation that will warrant someone to commit suicide no matter how severe what they are passing through is and no depression should lead someone to thinking that suicide is the escape in that immediate condition. In the locality where I live, people who commits suicide are buried in evil forest after some rituals has been performed because it is an abominable act. Anything that makes someone feel that suicide is the only way out of a situation is devilish. There are people who have seen and experience more worst conditions than the person that chooses to commit suicide so why then should he feel that their own case cannot be remedy. It is shameful and forbidden to terminate one's life and anyone who often have that feelings of suicide whenever they are facing great challenges should better pray harder otherwise they will give in one day.
For sure
Suicide is a bad perception that will continue to be bad
I have had of people commiting suicide I was able to see one my self where he uses rope to hang himself on the tree when I asked what happened why did he have to take his own life somebody there said he will caught stealing that after then he couldn't bear the shame of been a thief so he commited suicide.

There are several things that can lead to sucide most persons sees or think that they can't be useful again in the society some out of depression some too due to some reasons which they know more better, but what ever the situation may be or look like we shouldn't take our life by our own self this act is like dieing two times and it is a great offense in the sight of God.

 
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