E.L.O.N. M.U.S.K. Act to stop Elon from getting taxpayer's money

[franky1]

Checks and balances are being circumvented right now.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-1q6bfRpZdU      ----> The Consumer Protection Bureau is not an agency that should be meddled with right now
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/14/judge-halts-cfpb-firings-00204464

the CFPB just pass complaints back to the bank with a warning that the bank needs to issue a response to customer about if the bank will handle the issue to a consumers satisfaction or they will forward complaint to the FDIC/other true regulators who will take things further

here is the thing, the FDIC already has its own consumer complaints department which people can use themselves.. making the CFPB doubling up of departments that exist elsewhere

the CFPB main mission statement and also the reason the CFPB even came into existence was due to how banks treat diverse/under-served/minorities.. yep due to the "subprime loan" scandal that caused the 2008 crisis, the CFPB was invented to deal with monitoring banks to ensure they do not discriminate and treat DEI people unfairly

if you read the CFPB mission statement& strategy plan its full of a medley of words like "diverse" "equity" "underserved" "vulnerable"
take their strategy plan 2022-2026
https://files.consumerfinance.gov/f/documents/cfpb_strategic-plan_fy2022-fy2026.pdf
words:
equity : mentioned 17 times
underserved : mentioned 16 times
diversity : mentioned 10 times
inclusion : mentioned 9 times
equitable : mentioned 8 times
racial : mentioned 8 times
discrimination : mentioned 7 times
DEIA : mentioned 7 times
inclusive : mentioned 7 times
minority : mentioned 6 times
diverse : mentioned 4 times
vulnerable : mentioned 3 times
fairly : mentioned 2 times
inequality : mentioned 2 times

now lets see if they resolve issues themselves for normal bank error complaints (using synonyms of fixing issues)
compensation : 1 time
issues : mentioned 1 time
refund : mentioned 0 times
error : mentioned 0 times
resolve : mentioned 0 times
solve : mentioned 0 times
rectify : mentioned 0 times
remedy  : mentioned 0 times

reading their processes, it seems that yes cfpb has became the complainers first port of call. but purely for cfpb to see if complaint is DEI related which they get more involved in or if a normal admin error/bank breaching the law, they ask the bank to contact the customer with reason for error or the complaint will be passed to the actual consumer complaints department of the actual regulators that handle banking errors(whom could take banks to court)

[BADecker]

It's simple as this. Musk/DOGE are an investigation team. Anybody who doesn't want to be investigated is admitting criminal activity by his attempts to thwart investigation.

DOGE needs to hit them fast and hard to save money for the taxpayers. Once the DOGE investigations are thru, Musk can send in Law Enforcement teams... maybe even SWAT.

[Hispo]

It's simple as this. Musk/DOGE are an investigation team. Anybody who doesn't want to be investigated is admitting criminal activity by his attempts to thwart investigation.

DOGE needs to hit them fast and hard to save money for the taxpayers. Once the DOGE investigations are thru, Musk can send in Law Enforcement teams... maybe even SWAT.

Is it an investigation agency/team? Because as far as I know there are already investigations age comes which work within the federal government, in order to enforce law and save money of taxpayers, specially when the use of those funds of the taxpayers is being criminally used. Elon Musk and his team orbiting around Trump are rather a lobby, people in charge of influencing over the president, so companies under the direction of Musk can have their way and do whatever they want and get profit from it.
I would not be surprised if Trump suddenly decided electric vehicles are not so bad as he claimed them to be in previous years (when compared to fossil fuel vehicles). That is what lobbying is about, make politicians to change their mind on topics which benefit CEO and big companies.

[BADecker]

It's simple as this. Musk/DOGE are an investigation team. Anybody who doesn't want to be investigated is admitting criminal activity by his attempts to thwart investigation.

DOGE needs to hit them fast and hard to save money for the taxpayers. Once the DOGE investigations are thru, Musk can send in Law Enforcement teams... maybe even SWAT.

Is it an investigation agency/team? Because as far as I know there are already investigations age comes which work within the federal government, in order to enforce law and save money of taxpayers, specially when the use of those funds of the taxpayers is being criminally used. Elon Musk and his team orbiting around Trump are rather a lobby, people in charge of influencing over the president, so companies under the direction of Musk can have their way and do whatever they want and get profit from it.
I would not be surprised if Trump suddenly decided electric vehicles are not so bad as he claimed them to be in previous years (when compared to fossil fuel vehicles). That is what lobbying is about, make politicians to change their mind on topics which benefit CEO and big companies.

The future is the future. Investigation teams before Trump and Musk weren't doing such a good job. DOGE is doing a better job. Perhaps the standard investigation teams weren't as stringent as Trump wanted. Or, more than likely the standard investigation teams were part of the corruption problem.

Whatever, now that DOGE has found the corruption, let Law Enforcement step in to correct it.

[paxmao]

It's simple as this. Musk/DOGE are an investigation team. Anybody who doesn't want to be investigated is admitting criminal activity by his attempts to thwart investigation.

DOGE needs to hit them fast and hard to save money for the taxpayers. Once the DOGE investigations are thru, Musk can send in Law Enforcement teams... maybe even SWAT.

Is it an investigation agency/team? Because as far as I know there are already investigations age comes which work within the federal government, in order to enforce law and save money of taxpayers, specially when the use of those funds of the taxpayers is being criminally used. Elon Musk and his team orbiting around Trump are rather a lobby, people in charge of influencing over the president, so companies under the direction of Musk can have their way and do whatever they want and get profit from it.
I would not be surprised if Trump suddenly decided electric vehicles are not so bad as he claimed them to be in previous years (when compared to fossil fuel vehicles). That is what lobbying is about, make politicians to change their mind on topics which benefit CEO and big companies.

Elon is keener on getting the money into SpaceX. With Tesla he has to "share it" with the stakeholders, SpaceX is private.

But as said, the effect on spending as of today has been zero. In fact there is more Federal spending than last year (this is data, not opinion). The likes of BA are very happy about this - I mean him and the Chinese Comunist Party - as Trump seems keen on destroying the defence lines of the US.

[franky1]

Elon is keener on getting the money into SpaceX. With Tesla he has to "share it" with the stakeholders, SpaceX is private.

But as said, the effect on spending as of today has been zero. In fact there is more Federal spending than last year (this is data, not opinion). The likes of BA are very happy about this - I mean him and the Chinese Comunist Party - as Trump seems keen on destroying the defence lines of the US.

you do realise that spaceX done deals that are contracted by law to be locked in, before trump even came into power
elon has plans to be involved in the moon mining transport deals of the 2030's
he doesnt need trump. the deals are done already, they need to be done to plan the next space race to get that shiny moon gold

but..
seems what you dont realise is, things like NASA that need to remain relevant
seems what you dont realise is, things like NASA that is spending 10x more than spaceX but doing 100x less than spaceX
he doesnt need trump. the deals are done already, they need to be done to plan the next space race to get that shiny moon gold

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all i can see you realise is that some people will and do deserve to lose their jobs.
government is too heavily involved in peoples day to day lives and too many pencil pushers are claiming high salaries to do not much work

if you are a public employee and your job is not important, where you are replaceable. prepare your C.V.(résumé) and find a job now, because come september the jobs market competition will get heated

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i do find it funny how you have no rhetoric about NASA's wasteful spending..

[paxmao]

Elon is keener on getting the money into SpaceX. With Tesla he has to "share it" with the stakeholders, SpaceX is private.

But as said, the effect on spending as of today has been zero. In fact there is more Federal spending than last year (this is data, not opinion). The likes of BA are very happy about this - I mean him and the Chinese Comunist Party - as Trump seems keen on destroying the defence lines of the US.

you do realise that spaceX done deals that are contracted by law to be locked in, before trump even came into power
elon has plans to be involved in the moon mining transport deals of the 2030's
he doesnt need trump. the deals are done already, they need to be done to plan the next space race to get that shiny moon gold

but..
seems what you dont realise is, things like NASA that need to remain relevant
seems what you dont realise is, things like NASA that is spending 10x more than spaceX but doing 100x less than spaceX
he doesnt need trump. the deals are done already, they need to be done to plan the next space race to get that shiny moon gold

..
all i can see you realise is that some people will and do deserve to lose their jobs.
government is too heavily involved in peoples day to day lives and too many pencil pushers are claiming high salaries to do not much work

if you are a public employee and your job is not important, where you are replaceable. prepare your C.V.(résumé) and find a job now, because come september the jobs market competition will get heated

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i do find it funny how you have no rhetoric about NASA's wasteful spending..

Do you realise that there is nearly unlimited potential to give Space X more money? Let's say... enough to get someone to Mars?

Again, NASA does what it is inteded to do, and it is not just sending stuff into orbit.

The people who "deserve to loose their jobs" will be the ones staying. Good workers will simply go to good employers that do not threaten them.

[franky1]

Do you realise that there is nearly unlimited potential to give Space X more money? Let's say... enough to get someone to Mars?

Again, NASA does what it is inteded to do, and it is not just sending stuff into orbit.

The people who "deserve to loose their jobs" will be the ones staying. Good workers will simply go to good employers that do not threaten them.

heres the funny.. the good rocket scientists left years ago. guess where they went, to work for spaceX, so whos left

i know you want to believe that NASA deserves $20bill a year budget, but if you check their "photo" gallery, all they have produced is CGI renderings of what their science theory decided that deep space looks like via their decision of how to translate radio wave frequencies into visual..

or pictures of .. oh wait, thats spaceX rockets they use. time to cut the middle man out

i know you want to think that nasa for 70 years have been giving the world data on things from deep space and also of our planet.. but in the last decade their tech has not been facilitated by nasa's own experts. instead its been other companies. which spacex then send those satalites and telescopes into space..
so please go on, do tell.. what has NASA independently achieved without the private sector expertise?

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and please do go into the research.. if you mention climate data.. please also then look at the separate budgets of:
the national weather service
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
and their partner agencies

and remember when you read how NASA conducts cutting edge research.. remember that a conductor is a guy with a stick waving around. not the orchestra creating the synphony

[BADecker]

^^^ And it's a copper conductor when it should have been a silver one. But it still was way overpriced, a thing that DOGE and Trump are correcting.

[paxmao]

Do you realise that there is nearly unlimited potential to give Space X more money? Let's say... enough to get someone to Mars?

Again, NASA does what it is inteded to do, and it is not just sending stuff into orbit.

The people who "deserve to loose their jobs" will be the ones staying. Good workers will simply go to good employers that do not threaten them.

heres the funny.. the good rocket scientists left years ago. guess where they went, to work for spaceX, so whos left

i know you want to believe that NASA deserves $20bill a year budget, but if you check their "photo" gallery, all they have produced is CGI renderings of what their science theory decided that deep space looks like via their decision of how to translate radio wave frequencies into visual..

or pictures of .. oh wait, thats spaceX rockets they use. time to cut the middle man out

i know you want to think that nasa for 70 years have been giving the world data on things from deep space and also of our planet.. but in the last decade their tech has not been facilitated by nasa's own experts. instead its been other companies. which spacex then send those satalites and telescopes into space..
so please go on, do tell.. what has NASA independently achieved without the private sector expertise?

..
and please do go into the research.. if you mention climate data.. please also then look at the separate budgets of:
the national weather service
the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
and their partner agencies

and remember when you read how NASA conducts cutting edge research.. remember that a conductor is a guy with a stick waving around. not the orchestra creating the synphony

This is getting boring.

NASA is not there to put stuff into orbit, it is a political and economic tool. Understand that and you will be able to make sense of it.

I am sure there are many efficiencies to be made.

However and again, you first need to do the homework. For example you cut US Aid point blank. After all, that is giving money to others, like for example South Africa. But then...

South Africa says silence from US on bid for talks, China pledges support

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-africa-says-us-has-not-responded-attempts-engage-after-trump-order-2025-02-17/

BA, our local Chinese agent is just crying of happiness.

Oh, and I am sure this is not going to spread is it?

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/hiv-clinics-close-across-africa-after-trump-administration-issues-stop-work-order/

HIV Clinics Close Across Africa After US Issues ‘Stop-Work Order’ to All Aid Recipients

And eventually, what you saved may be less that what you were winning.... In fact it is very likely that the money was actually well spent, but you do not know because Elon and Trump do not do the hard work and go simple iyet wrong ideas to complex problems.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-africa-open-nuclear-project-bids-russia-or-iran-minister-says-2025-02-17/

South Africa open to nuclear project bids from Russia or Iran, minister says

Congratulations on the foreign policy... it is going so well...

[franky1]

Oh, and I am sure this is not going to spread is it?

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/hiv-clinics-close-across-africa-after-trump-administration-issues-stop-work-order/

HIV Clinics Close Across Africa After US Issues ‘Stop-Work Order’ to All Aid Recipients

aww poor boy,
funny thing is that the african HIV RESEARCH and DEI is on a 90 day halt. but the actual medication/treatment centers continue (read the waiver)
(well.. maybe you couldnt find it in the last 3 weeks of availability, so ill just spoon feed you)
https://www.state.gov/emergency-humanitarian-waiver-to-foreign-assistance-pause/

for someone like you that is a gov bootlicker. you seem to prefer getting your info from crap media rather than actual government sources
yep the waiver was in place and clinics that serve medication got the go ahead to keep serving back in january 27th.. so your a lil late to be shocked and worried

there is a big difference between
media saying: HIV [statistical and research] clinic shuts down
vs
the real world saying: HIV medical service clinic remain in service

[paxmao]

Oh, and I am sure this is not going to spread is it?

https://healthpolicy-watch.news/hiv-clinics-close-across-africa-after-trump-administration-issues-stop-work-order/

HIV Clinics Close Across Africa After US Issues ‘Stop-Work Order’ to All Aid Recipients

aww poor boy,
funny thing is that the african HIV RESEARCH and DEI is on a 90 day halt. but the actual medication/treatment centers continue (read the waiver)
(well.. maybe you couldnt find it in the last 3 weeks of availability, so ill just spoon feed you)
https://www.state.gov/emergency-humanitarian-waiver-to-foreign-assistance-pause/

for someone like you that is a gov bootlicker. you seem to prefer getting your info from crap media rather than actual government sources
yep the waiver was in place and clinics that serve medication got the go ahead to keep serving back in january 27th.. so your a lil late to be shocked and worried

there is a big difference between
media saying: HIV [statistical and research] clinic shuts down
vs
the real world saying: HIV medical service clinic remain in service

You seem much more of a Government book licker to me. You are aware you are fully aligned with the current US Govmt?? How would you like me to refer to you... Trump-sucker?

Let's hope the virus halts for 90 days. I am sure Trump can issue an Imperial Decree on that.

You have to make your mind. Either you are in favour or you are not. The US AID narrative is full-stop. Now is it full stop or is it not and then ... you need to do your homework.

 South African poor boys and girls seem to be now ok with having Iranian and Russian engineering and construction firm. Surely they will not start ordering Migs instead of feeding the private US military industry and the like?? They would not do that would they?

Again, US Aid is not "free for all", it is a targeted soft power investment. Multiply this for several tens of countries where China and Ruzzia will gladly point out how bad the US is and how the Road and Belt are much more useful to them.

Funny thing is that since they are also going after the CIA they may not even notice this is happening - nobody will tell

I guess you live out of air, your savings, bitcoin withdrawals or the like. Else it will eventually get to you poor thing.

[franky1]

i am not aligned

i am not even a trumpette.. i think he is a fake tanned clown that talks off topic too much..
 
however i look passed the clowns and look at the data, the research, the source material, the actions and reactions to such..
and when i see other people just quoting crapmedia, and get things wrong. i correct the narrative with better data closer to the source so that readers can be more informed on reality to then have better useful discussions

im also from the UK so its not like i need to care one bit about US government actions of ther internal structure of their employees, nor do i need to hug a US public employee nor protest along side them.. it doesnt affect me..
you however sound like atleast one of your relatives might be out of a job in 6-8 months. and you are afraid of becoming homeless when they fail to be worthy of a new job

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as for the USAID and your "full stop or not" question
(read the waiver made jan 28th)
for the DEI promoting agencies. its full stop
for the actual welfare aid of medicine, shelter and nutrition, that continues

Implementers of existing life-saving humanitarian assistance programs should continue or resume work if they have stopped, subject to the following directions.  This resumption is temporary in nature, and except by separate waiver or as required to carry out this waiver, no new contracts shall be entered into.
(a) For purposes of this waiver, life-saving humanitarian assistance applies to core life-saving medicine, medical services, food, shelter, and subsistence assistance, as well as supplies and reasonable administrative costs as necessary to deliver such assistance.
(b) This waiver does not apply to activities that involve abortions, family planning, conferences, administrative costs other than those covered by 1(a) above, gender or DEI ideology programs, transgender surgeries, or other non-life saving assistance.

did that help answer your question

[BADecker]

Elon Musk is not getting any US money except through the normal channels anybody can use - Business Loan.

If Elon gains a favorable position so that he can get better use out of his business loans, he deserves it for all the $billions and $trillions he is saving the American people through DOGE.

The people who are stealing your money are the people who are fighting Elon. They are doing it in a way and direction Elon isn't even moving. Even their attempts to stop Elon are a big waste of money, because they don't aim at Elon in a way that Elon really is.

[paxmao]

i am not aligned

i am not even a trumpette.. i think he is a fake tanned clown that talks off topic too much..
 
however i look passed the clowns and look at the data, the research, the source material, the actions and reactions to such..
and when i see other people just quoting crapmedia, and get things wrong. i correct the narrative with better data closer to the source so that readers can be more informed on reality to then have better useful discussions

im also from the UK so its not like i need to care one bit about US government actions of ther internal structure of their employees, nor do i need to hug a US public employee nor protest along side them.. it doesnt affect me..
you however sound like atleast one of your relatives might be out of a job in 6-8 months. and you are afraid of becoming homeless when they fail to be worthy of a new job

..
as for the USAID and your "full stop or not" question
(read the waiver made jan 28th)
for the DEI promoting agencies. its full stop
for the actual welfare aid of medicine, shelter and nutrition, that continues

Implementers of existing life-saving humanitarian assistance programs should continue or resume work if they have stopped, subject to the following directions. Â This resumption is temporary in nature, and except by separate waiver or as required to carry out this waiver, no new contracts shall be entered into.
(a) For purposes of this waiver, life-saving humanitarian assistance applies to core life-saving medicine, medical services, food, shelter, and subsistence assistance, as well as supplies and reasonable administrative costs as necessary to deliver such assistance.
(b) This waiver does not apply to activities that involve abortions, family planning, conferences, administrative costs other than those covered by 1(a) above, gender or DEI ideology programs, transgender surgeries, or other non-life saving assistance.

did that help answer your question

Well, I will have to believe you on the alignment thing.

It is not very difficult to see that I am not affected by a reduction in the US Civil Service budgets and I am absolutely convinced that agencies and instutions are needed because private initiative rarely solves the difficult problems - but also a fan of efficiency. What I am saying is that is done is the worst possible way and by the wrong duo.

If you ask me... let's say I am a doctor and someone tells me to keep working... "but on a temporary nature"... well, I will then polish the CV and look a "less temporary" solution. All noise, all threat... obvious results. Who will stay? You tell me.

What I do not accept is Trump shouting and making a show of (a pretended?) demolition of the government agencies and institutions, then complain about how bad the public service is, to end up with the conclusion that everything should be privatised. Since I have seen that a number of times across different countries and localities, I can see the symptoms.

And he will denny and tweetX to death that the innevitable failures are due to someone or something else. I can see it comming.

I have also seen "budget cuts" that actually meant giving it to "the right people" to then, when it just does not work, paying three times for private services when they figured out they actually needed the right people.

So, you are saying that Trump did not really cut the Aidm but that he is doing the right thing by cutting. Either one or the other.

[franky1]

If you ask me... let's say I am a doctor and someone tells me to keep working... "but on a temporary nature"... well, I will then polish the CV and look a "less temporary" solution. All noise, all threat... obvious results. Who will stay? You tell me.

nah
what you are being asked is:(using your doctor analogy)
you are a surgeon where you do your best work in a hospital doing surgery. but for the last few years you have been working as a work-from-home "consultant-surgeon" that occasionally has appointments to perform surgeries once a month (when you finally go into the hospital for unavoidable appointments that you cant put off)

you are being asked to come back full time to the hospital and be a hospital surgeon, or take 8 months off fully paid to find somewhere else to work
if you want to be paid as a surgeon you better be a surgeon or the hospital can find someone else to take your place

because guess what, hospitals need surgeons, hospital patients need surgeons, they dont need home dwelling telephone medical assistants with degree's and overly paid salary just to talk to patients

.. I am absolutely convinced that agencies and instutions are needed because private initiative rarely solves the difficult problems

..

What I do not accept is Trump shouting and making a show of (a pretended?) demolition of the government agencies and institutions, then complain about how bad the public service is, to end up with the conclusion that everything should be privatised.

I have also seen "budget cuts" that actually meant giving it to "the right people" to then, when it just does not work, paying three times for private services when they figured out they actually needed the right people.

no one is talking about privatising the US government. its about the very fact that there are alot of publicly funded buildings that are (usually) open to the public to attend to get public service, but when they do, they are met with a sign that says "please go online or call.." thus people cant get the services they need face to face.
yet the government is happy to spend billions on promoting sexual diversity training across the world and fund things that us population dont benefit from

i have no issues if people are homosexual or like to pretend they are a 4 legged alien cat.. but when they are working their sexual preference should have nothing to do with the duties of providing a actual public service, in any country.
what you do in your bedroom has nothing to do with what should be done in a public office lobby

So, you are saying that Trump did not really cut the Aidm but that he is doing the right thing by cutting. Either one or the other.

again, please do the research.. real "aid"(life saving help/support) continues.. but U.S.A.I.D that funds DEI programs has stopped and the budgets for DEI are cut

if you can try to not confuse a.i.d with aid, you might see more clearly
read the waiver again

a.i.d for promoting homosexuals = cut
aid for aids patients = continue