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February 17, 2025, 03:11:27 PM
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But you said they're getting popular, I think decentralized casinos have been around for a while but most gamblers still prefer traditional casinos that aren't as strict with KYC
There is not much thing as not that strict KYC because KYC is KYC. They all pretty much follow the same requirements. People who are sensitive with KYC will see no difference between the strict ones and non strict ones.
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so I don't get where the idea of their rising popularity comes from.
Maybe from the popularity of online crypto casino. People are looking for decentralized to use their cryptos.

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February 17, 2025, 04:07:47 PM
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No KYC gambling should be seen as a privilege for us to grab on our right to privacy gambling, knowing that most of the gambling sites ask for KYC and this looks unpleasant to us because not everyone can afford in giving out their information online, this should now not be seen as a yardstick to irresponsible and wreckless gambling, we have to know and understand the difference in these, even though on every system, abuse is inevitable, but we should decide of not taking the wrong moves when gambling.

Generally, crypto casinos are meant to enable No-KYC but the downside of it is against the law and exposes young people to play without being traced and banned. However, some casinos go with boycotting the rules and allow players to gamble without asking for KYC, still, as soon as the casino begin to garner more users they'll tighten up or watch the government help do it for them. Aside the underaged taking an advantage of not submitting documents, irresponsible gaming has little to do with KYC. It's a whole subject on its own.
Casino owners are running businesses and I don't think that they really care about your KYC, they want as many people as possible to gamble and lose more than they'll win. I think that a casino might be loose on KYC matters but as soon as their site starts to gain more users they'll start to implement KYC. Another reason for a none KYC casino to perhaps ask for it could be after a huge win, they'll likely want a serious verification before payment. We should accept KYC as a part of crypto casino requirements, even when we're on a none KYC casino, they might demand for it when you least expect. People gamble irresponsibly on KYC casinos so I also also don't think that it's basically because of KYC.











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February 17, 2025, 04:25:30 PM
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No KYC gambling should be seen as a privilege for us to grab on our right to privacy gambling, knowing that most of the gambling sites ask for KYC and this looks unpleasant to us because not everyone can afford in giving out their information online, this should now not be seen as a yardstick to irresponsible and wreckless gambling, we have to know and understand the difference in these, even though on every system, abuse is inevitable, but we should decide of not taking the wrong moves when gambling.

Generally, crypto casinos are meant to enable No-KYC but the downside of it is against the law and exposes young people to play without being traced and banned. However, some casinos go with boycotting the rules and allow players to gamble without asking for KYC, still, as soon as the casino begin to garner more users they'll tighten up or watch the government help do it for them. Aside the underaged taking an advantage of not submitting documents, irresponsible gaming has little to do with KYC. It's a whole subject on its own.
Casino owners are running businesses and I don't think that they really care about your KYC, they want as many people as possible to gamble and lose more than they'll win. I think that a casino might be loose on KYC matters but as soon as their site starts to gain more users they'll start to implement KYC. Another reason for a none KYC casino to perhaps ask for it could be after a huge win, they'll likely want a serious verification before payment. We should accept KYC as a part of crypto casino requirements, even when we're on a none KYC casino, they might demand for it when you least expect. People gamble irresponsibly on KYC casinos so I also also don't think that it's basically because of KYC.

I recently make use of a gambling platform and they stated it clearly on the homepage below that gambling could be addictive and is for 18years old plus, which I see as their own little way of contributing to the sanity of gambling, whereby underaged are restricted from gambling, if we all can make it a responsibility, then most of the younger ones will gain the exposure required about gambling, we can't now because of this deny our own self of the privacy needed, others are doing it doesn't mean we can also contribute to irresponsible gambling habits.

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February 17, 2025, 05:16:19 PM
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I recently make use of a gambling platform and they stated it clearly on the homepage below that gambling could be addictive and is for 18years old plus, which I see as their own little way of contributing to the sanity of gambling, whereby underaged are restricted from gambling, if we all can make it a responsibility, then most of the younger ones will gain the exposure required about gambling, we can't now because of this deny our own self of the privacy needed, others are doing it doesn't mean we can also contribute to irresponsible gambling habits.
I have seen such messages and restrictions feature on many reputable casinos and even stake has such addiction prevention features so for sure in as much as casinos are out to make profits from gamblers, the welfare of they players is still very much on the check and that is why we have some key features that can help a gambler exit a site if he notices that he had become addicted such features like (self-exclusion) this have helped many gambler's to overcome the hold of addictions, casinos also have an academy call addiction prevention were some messages and promotions are done to raise the awareness of addictions and its negative impact and how gambler can avoid getting dip into addictions.

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February 17, 2025, 05:32:57 PM
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I recently make use of a gambling platform and they stated it clearly on the homepage below that gambling could be addictive and is for 18years old plus, which I see as their own little way of contributing to the sanity of gambling, whereby underaged are restricted from gambling, if we all can make it a responsibility, then most of the younger ones will gain the exposure required about gambling, we can't now because of this deny our own self of the privacy needed, others are doing it doesn't mean we can also contribute to irresponsible gambling habits.
I have seen such messages and restrictions feature on many reputable casinos and even stake has such addiction prevention features so for sure in as much as casinos are out to make profits from gamblers, the welfare of they players is still very much on the check and that is why we have some key features that can help a gambler exit a site if he notices that he had become addicted such features like (self-exclusion) this have helped many gambler's to overcome the hold of addictions, casinos also have an academy call addiction prevention were some messages and promotions are done to raise the awareness of addictions and its negative impact and how gambler can avoid getting dip into addictions.

The discipline will always come from the person himself. However, some casino features will indeed help the gambler to avoid some troubles such as offering the self-exclusion to the gambler and restricting the allowed age to enter their site. However, as users can go around on these restrictions, it is now on their hands how to contain themselves in this very addictive activity.
The no-kyc of the site will just give access to gamblers who don't want to disclose their identity. But the state of addiction would also be the same as it depends on how the gambler will use the site for his gambling activities.

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February 17, 2025, 05:36:13 PM
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When thinking of the impact on responsible gambling practices it's not just the overcoming of strict regulatory environments I have in mind. But rather also easy access to illicit use such as by minors, etc..
yeah there is a possibility of that but mostly it’s just people wanting to protect their privacy for real especially in these times where our data is so out in the open i think we do need to start protecting ourselves and i think more and more people are becoming more sensitive to their data being shared online

I agree with you. Every person has the right to privacy. It is one of the natural human rights.

However, in the modern world, this rule is constantly violated. Governments and corporations do not recognize the right of people to anonymity and privacy. And all these mandatory KYC and AML procedures are aimed at combating the anonymity and privacy of people. Yes, in the modern world there are criminals and crimes...

Yes, in the modern world, offenses are committed and minors sometimes gamble.

However, in my opinion, it is wrong to limit the basic natural rights of all people because of private situations.

Based on these considerations, I have a positive attitude towards online casinos that operate without KYC.

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I recently make use of a gambling platform and they stated it clearly on the homepage below that gambling could be addictive and is for 18years old plus, which I see as their own little way of contributing to the sanity of gambling, whereby underaged are restricted from gambling, if we all can make it a responsibility, then most of the younger ones will gain the exposure required about gambling, we can't now because of this deny our own self of the privacy needed, others are doing it doesn't mean we can also contribute to irresponsible gambling habits.

Actually the 18+ caution isn't scary to the young underaged, it's like a nitro, they just can't wait to become adults. However, the whole task is not on the casino to execute since there are in it for money and growth. It's also the duty of parents and relatives who are above 18 to stop permitting young people to use their documents for KYC.

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Minors have avenues to gamble even outside of crypto and that's because there's nonexistent enforcement about online gambling. Counter strike skins believe it or not is one of the main sources of online gambling for minors... Nothing has been done to prevent it over the last 10 years or so.

And it wouldn't be for the next 10 or more. Because it's considered as gaming and not gambling. Thousand games have or use gambling practices and basically introduce gambling to minors but there are games so... Undecided

Maybe one day governments will start serious enforcement against online gambling, but so far the opposite seems to be happening. To get a license to operate legally online seems to be getting easier and easier. As of crypto casinos with no KYC, it's a natural by product of this industry growing.

As long as governments earn money from casinos, they won't force anything against them. Even if they know what happening they don't (really) care.

In the end of the day, even in legal online casinos, you know have to verify KYC once. Of you convince a relative to give you their account, you're set. Many minors play this way too. The only real security measure would be ID checks every session but I don't see that enforced by any online casino.

Online casinos are the only ones that can be a No KYC or find/ use other ways for people to gamble. Some of them use some "extra measures of safety" by forcing players to verify every time they ask for withdrawal. However, they don't do it in every deposit. So it's easy to understand that is a one-way "security" and for sure isn't for people's benefit, even if they try to convince us of the opposite. Physical casinos aren't the same situation.

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Regarding the impact, not only is it easy for minors to gain access, but I believe it is also attractive for some individuals to use non-KYC casinos for money laundering.

Those who truly cares about their identity would never cease to use that casino and of a true there are some transaction that would occurs on those gambling site if the platform suspect an illegal activity they wouldn't mind requesting for additional verification methods to proof source of funds, if i am not mistakenly I have came across a post like this on forum or somewhere else. Because people who cares about their identity do avoid a casino that requires for identification and move down to non-kyc which already is their target not because they are focusing on minus or underage. But the real question should be how would they control and regulate their site towards underage?

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Casinos with absolute no KYC policies are rare, even when a KYC claims no mandatory KYC it doesn't mean they will never ask for KYC. It's just triggers only when they suspect a user to be laundering or violating any other terms. Even those casinos have listed banned and restricted countries so it's the people to be blamed for bypassing the limits.
It is better to read the rules in advance to understand why a player can be asked for a CIC, even if the casino assures that it will never ask. Of course, they will never ask, especially if the player is losing. But if the player is winning and even larger amounts, then of course, at the most unexpected moment, the casino can easily say that if you do not pass our CIC, then we will not be able to pay you the winnings. In general, I have heard a lot of stories, but I realized for myself that I do not really want to face such situations, so I would rather play in casinos that have a CIC. Although, of course, I understand that not everyone has such an opportunity due to prohibited jurisdictions.

 
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I recently noticed a trend where no-KYC crypto casinos are becoming increasingly popular in regions with strict regulatory environments. What do you think are the key factors driving this shift, and how might it impact responsible gambling practices?

When thinking of the impact on responsible gambling practices it's not just the overcoming of strict regulatory environments I have in mind. But rather also easy access to illicit use such as by minors, etc..
Your questions answers is just like will be a contradictory answer because we all know kyced and non-kyc both have positive and the negative side.
Like when you are a privacy ethustian person then it will be always first priority for your to have a non-kyc casino, actually I mean the decentralized casino not those who were just promoting them non-kyc casino for only marketing purposes. And we all know the importance of the privacy and just if I say here because of the privacy Satoshi Nakomoto hide his idently if it was just a silly matter then why do he have to hide is identy.

But it also not appreciatable that when the children play the casino and also the used for money laundering but I don't think this is nullifying the responsible gambling because these child on gamble and also the money laundering can stop from it's roots.

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February 17, 2025, 09:02:08 PM
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I recently noticed a trend where no-KYC crypto casinos are becoming increasingly popular in regions with strict regulatory environments. What do you think are the key factors driving this shift, and how might it impact responsible gambling practices?

When thinking of the impact on responsible gambling practices it's not just the overcoming of strict regulatory environments I have in mind. But rather also easy access to illicit use such as by minors, etc..
Now that we are living in a world on which regulation is really that becomes tightening up on different industries on which this doesnt really just that limit out on gambling industry but also in other as well. When it comes to practices and influences then its not shocking that there will be those NO-KYC places on which that still exist out. Come to think that this crypto market space had become that popular because of that anonymity whenever they do play up into these places on which this is something that cant be denied, but on the time that as years passing by on which regulation that becomes even more rampant on which its understandable that governments wont really be allowing up that these businesses will really be running up without having these taxes on which its understandable that they will really be that sooner or later be regulated or else they wont be able to run up the business and this is why we've seen those illegal ones because they dont want to pay up taxes of course.

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February 17, 2025, 09:27:07 PM
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I think that non-KYC crypto casinos are simply marketing or promotional efforts aiming individuals in countries with strict regulations. Because many people are unable to gamble and cannot access the majority of online casinos, the smart solution to target these people is to implement a non-KYC system that allows these people to access via VPN.

Regarding the impact, not only is it easy for minors to gain access, but I believe it is also attractive for some individuals to use non-KYC casinos for money laundering.


Yes you are right. The increase of the non kyc on casinos has become looming following casino regulatory compliances in respective regions which either be a ban of gambling or disciplinary orders by the authorities.
This made it be that users are likely to be more convenient or only accessible to casinos from other places which are not connected to the nature of restrictions they gets from their places.
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I recently noticed a trend where no-KYC crypto casinos are becoming increasingly popular in regions with strict regulatory environments. What do you think are the key factors driving this shift, and how might it impact responsible gambling practices?

When thinking of the impact on responsible gambling practices it's not just the overcoming of strict regulatory environments I have in mind. But rather also easy access to illicit use such as by minors, etc..

Many countries these days have internet service provider level of blocks, which means the potential for a site to be blocked (but still accessible via VPN) by the government or regulator is a possibility. Let's face it though, there are simply too many sites out there, in so many countries and jurisdictions with different laws, that a player with money will always have an outlet to spend it. Responsible gambling has always relied on the willpower of a player as the most important requirement, but then the whole thing becomes redundant - because responsible players know their limits and don't go beyond it, irresponsible players have little self control and will find ways to gamble regardless of any blocks put up.

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February 17, 2025, 10:52:58 PM
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Yes you are right. The increase of the non kyc on casinos has become looming following casino regulatory compliances in respective regions which either be a ban of gambling or disciplinary orders by the authorities.
This made it be that users are likely to be more convenient or only accessible to casinos from other places which are not connected to the nature of restrictions they gets from their places.
While the casinos are respecting boundaries, but they cannot ignore the fact that the jurisdiction or territorial laws have to be applied on them as well. With those places that they cannot add to their support and the people that lives into those restricted territories, they need to cast them out and not allow to play into their casinos. And those that are from countries that are allowed, they have to comply with the KYC because they said so and that's what is happening for most of the casinos because of being pressured by their government too. They need to comply as you have said because if they don't, they'll be closed or put some penalties if known by the regulators that they didn't complied.

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I agree with you. Every person has the right to privacy. It is one of the natural human rights.

However, in the modern world, this rule is constantly violated. Governments and corporations do not recognize the right of people to anonymity and privacy. And all these mandatory KYC and AML procedures are aimed at combating the anonymity and privacy of people. Yes, in the modern world there are criminals and crimes...

Yes, in the modern world, offenses are committed and minors sometimes gamble.

However, in my opinion, it is wrong to limit the basic natural rights of all people because of private situations.

Based on these considerations, I have a positive attitude towards online casinos that operate without KYC.
The implementation of KYC in online casinos is only a regulation set by the government so that no criminal acts go unnoticed.
As in the practice of money laundering that is often carried out through online casinos, so this is an important indication that KYC is really necessary even though it is contrary to the privacy of others.

Online casinos that implement KYC and AML have given an appeal or ToS which of course has been read by users before entering the online casino platform, it has been explained that KYC and AML will be implemented, but some casinos will implement KYC if it exceeds the maximum limit of the allowed withdrawals, If withdrawing with a large amount then it is necessary to apply KYC.

Casinos that actually operate without KYC must certainly get an audit from the government as well, but of course the government that is under the auspices of the casino will really provide KYC implementation regulations, otherwise it will be said to be an Illegal Casino.

 
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February 19, 2025, 07:41:37 AM
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It is not easy to have a casino that is no-KYC because many casinos has been regulated by the regulator and impose KYC to their members. Maybe you can see a small list of no-KYC casino. When the regulator come, that casino will be ask to follow their regulation.

Maybe that will not impact to the responsible of gambling practices because that will depend on each gambler. They must know responsibility will on the gamblers side and not because the casino or even regulator. When someone gambling, he must know about responsibility, discipline, and other things to avoid the problem that can happen in gambling.
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February 19, 2025, 07:52:53 AM
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I recently noticed a trend where no-KYC crypto casinos are becoming increasingly popular in regions with strict regulatory environments. What do you think are the key factors driving this shift, and how might it impact responsible gambling practices?

When thinking of the impact on responsible gambling practices it's not just the overcoming of strict regulatory environments I have in mind. But rather also easy access to illicit use such as by minors, etc..

The factors contributing to the spread of anonymous casinos are unjustifiably excessive regulation, when gambling is prohibited in many regions. Also, the availability of KYC and a license is not at all a guarantee of the casino's reliability. Reputation has always been the most important and only guarantee. Reputation is earned over the years.
Regarding responsible play, I have a different definition of this term. In my understanding, this is the ability of a gambler to self-restraint.
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It is not easy to have a casino that is no-KYC because many casinos has been regulated by the regulator and impose KYC to their members. Maybe you can see a small list of no-KYC casino. When the regulator come, that casino will be ask to follow their regulation.

Most of the casinos we play at are already regulated, yet many of them don’t implement KYC, which makes them more attractive to gamblers. But it all depends on how strict their regulators are or how big they get, once they grow too much, regulators will eventually notice.

Take Stake, for example. It’s a well-known casino, and I had an account there for years, gambling without KYC. But last year, they set a deadline requiring users to comply with KYC by the end of the year, or else their accounts would be restricted to withdrawals only. That’s the likely scenario for any no-KYC casino today, it might not stay that way forever.

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