Europe needs to stick the finger out and rebuild the military industry

[paxmao]

 His aim is to rebuild the extension of the old USSR and that includes the Baltics, the Balcans, Poland, half of Germany, Slovakia, ... One bit at a time, by subversion or invasion don't matter.

So according to you he'd like to build a new USSR, because the countries you've mentioned (apart from the Baltics) were never a part of the Soviet Union, but Ukraine was!
Putin treats the former Soviet Union countries like they're a part of Russia, which is why he attacked Chechenya, but he knows Poland, Germany and Slovakia are ethnically different and would never submit.
Also, if we're talking about the former Warsaw Pact, why mention Poland and Slovakia, but not Hungary or Czech Republic? They were held exactly the same status in the Soviet Union -as allies.
Unfortunately that's long gone and they have allied themselves with the West.

Even if there was no NATO, Russia would not have enough firepower to conquer these countries. They'd get spread thin transporting troops and vehicles 2000 km into enemy territory and eventually cut off and they know it.

That is, Russia will be the guarantor of security in Europe and ensure stability in the region.

Russian word means nothing. The way they handled The Budapest Memorandum is the latest example of why nobody should ever trust Russia.
To remind you: The memoranda,(...) prohibited Russia, the United States and the United Kingdom from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan.

I accept the correction, but it matters little as those countries were not USSR, but they were Warsaw Pact, so clearly under the foot. You just need to remember the Soviet tanks in Prage.

On the ethnical argument, you are aware that there was a wall in the middle of Germany and those east of it were under the foor right? "ethnicity" will not stop it.

I mentioned a few... but sure... I mean, they can try even France of Spain, why not.

[Ucy]

That is interesting, but it has not happened

Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.

Russia is more interested in defending herself than influencing other nations. True influence comes naturally to more intelligent people or nations... It's not imposed. It's like a father having great influence over his children because he knows more than they do and uses the knowledge for their own good.  Such influence is also equal to power, the more influencial the more powerful one become.
As an influential person, if you support certain things because you know they are right, they work. If you are against certain things because they are wrong, they fail. It's basically you passing judgment based on how things naturally/spiritually works, and the judgement becomes true.
This natural influence is not like the aggressive influence people try to force or impose on others, especially through incentives, brainwashing, sanctions, etc. You just do the right thing and it works.

The conflict in Ukraine is as a result of Russia defending herself, protecting her borders and her people from nations/people with agenda to colonize, weaken or breakup her up.. This is basically why Donbas and Crimea were taken. They do not want to be part of system that despises Russia.. It's actually very risky for them to stay after a 2014 forceful removal of Pro-Russia President who believes that Ukraine is better off aligning with Russia than nations that are more interested in Russia's defeat and breakup.

...this is why Russia invaded Ukraine > {news link excluded}

Ukraine has significant deposits of rare earth metals. These are a group of 17 elements that are
used to produce weapons, wind turbines, electronics and other products vital in the modern world.

Some of the mineral deposits, however, have been seized by Russia. According to Yulia Svyrydenko,
Ukraine's economy minister, resources worth $350bn (£277bn) remain in occupied territories today.

Its all about resources

Kyiv and Washington are close to signing a deal over US you access to Ukraine's mineral deposits,
a Ukrainian minister says.

Would have believed that if Russia had not cared more for the people. Besides she went in at the right time after giving them the chance to do the right thing and probably retain the land and people. But they were more concern about cutting off relation with Russia or removing any trace of Russia from their lives.

By the way, Russia doesn't seem that desperate for resources otherwise certain countries that were put under her care would've complained about exploitation. She could easily use her powers to takeover the resources to compensate for her sacrifice, which if she does, she would still deserve it. Sometimes I feel the countries don't need to be told to properly compensate her for the sacrifices. They should know the right thing to do. But we keep watching to see if they will be very grateful.

We have been long enough and well entrenched in the conflicts to understand the issue, know the feelings and true intentions of both sides. It seems one cares for and welcomes everyone not caring too much whether they support the nation of their enemies, while the other keep hunting down certain people for supporting the nation of their enemies.

Anyway, the land goes to the ones who love the people more, be it Russia or Ukraine. The right country has been allowed to take charge of the land on behalf of the people they truely love..

It's not right to love the resources more than the people who own it

[BADecker]

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I accept the correction, but it matters little as those countries were not USSR, but they were Warsaw Pact, so clearly under the foot. You just need to remember the Soviet tanks in Prage.

On the ethnical argument, you are aware that there was a wall in the middle of Germany and those east of it were under the foor right? "ethnicity" will not stop it.

I mentioned a few... but sure... I mean, they can try even France of Spain, why not.

You really need to remember that this is post-1991 Russia, not the USSR.

[be.open]

That is interesting, but it has not happened

Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.

That is not a fact, it is your interpretation. Europe has not become a protectorate of Ruzzia, but it certainly getting ready to provide Ukraine with means of self defence... so, nothing like you predicted. Â Just keep it there and wait, who knows... maybe in 100 or 200 years your descendants will claim you were right or something like that.

I saw a video of Macron and Trump meeting yesterday, where they were patting each other's knees. Macron flew to Washington to make a strong statement about Europe's support for Ukraine, and left as a fan of Trump's peace plan. Europe can't do anything alone, because it is not a subject.

[Bushdark]

That is interesting, but it has not happened

Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.

That is not a fact, it is your interpretation. Europe has not become a protectorate of Ruzzia, but it certainly getting ready to provide Ukraine with means of self defence... so, nothing like you predicted. Â Just keep it there and wait, who knows... maybe in 100 or 200 years your descendants will claim you were right or something like that.

I saw a video of Macron and Trump meeting yesterday, where they were patting each other's knees. Macron flew to Washington to make a strong statement about Europe's support for Ukraine, and left as a fan of Trump's peace plan. Europe can't do anything alone, because it is not a subject.

Europe has been dependent on the United States for so many decades now and I don't know why they don't want to strengthen their security and work on themselves while reducing the reliance on the United States. Ukraine war supposed to have ended since but the influence of the United States during the Biden regime had made things more worse and severe for the less dependant of the European Union on the United States when it comes to decision making. Because of the United States, the European Union is in big shit unsubscribing from the Russian gas supply which is becoming a heavy blow on many European countries.

[paxmao]

That is interesting, but it has not happened

Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.

That is not a fact, it is your interpretation. Europe has not become a protectorate of Ruzzia, but it certainly getting ready to provide Ukraine with means of self defence... so, nothing like you predicted. Â Just keep it there and wait, who knows... maybe in 100 or 200 years your descendants will claim you were right or something like that.

I saw a video of Macron and Trump meeting yesterday, where they were patting each other's knees. Macron flew to Washington to make a strong statement about Europe's support for Ukraine, and left as a fan of Trump's peace plan. Europe can't do anything alone, because it is not a subject.

Europe cannot do anything together because is not what?? You probably mean is not a single country under a dictator?

You probably have not heard about the European Union. It is not a single country, but when it comes to doing things together, eventually they do things together. Decades ago it was just a free trade zone, now has a political union and well, I guess we have to thank Putin for making Europe now have to be a military alliance.

I have seen the video too. If Macron is smiling I can already tell you that he got what he went to seek.

Macron held several meetings with Putin and phone calls at the beginin of the war, however he was not able to stop the war. Now Macron has spoken with Trump about deploying EU troops in Ukraine. Trump only cares about not spending resources in Ukraine because either he is being paid by Putin (likely) or he really does not get how important is to have Europe as ally.

Either way it does not matter, if there are European troops in Ukraine, the development of the country and the business opportunities that come with it should be good enough to create the European army. Ukraine will become a military production world class power and most likely Europe will launch an enhanced nuclear weapons programme - many countries were wondering what to do with all that Plutonium from the nuclear reactors anyway.

[be.open]

That is interesting, but it has not happened

Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.

That is not a fact, it is your interpretation. Europe has not become a protectorate of Ruzzia, but it certainly getting ready to provide Ukraine with means of self defence... so, nothing like you predicted. Â Just keep it there and wait, who knows... maybe in 100 or 200 years your descendants will claim you were right or something like that.

I saw a video of Macron and Trump meeting yesterday, where they were patting each other's knees. Macron flew to Washington to make a strong statement about Europe's support for Ukraine, and left as a fan of Trump's peace plan. Europe can't do anything alone, because it is not a subject.

Europe cannot do anything together because is not what?? You probably mean is not a single country under a dictator?

You probably have not heard about the European Union. It is not a single country, but when it comes to doing things together, eventually they do things together. Decades ago it was just a free trade zone, now has a political union and well, I guess we have to thank Putin for making Europe now have to be a military alliance.

I have seen the video too. If Macron is smiling I can already tell you that he got what he went to seek.

Macron held several meetings with Putin and phone calls at the beginin of the war, however he was not able to stop the war. Now Macron has spoken with Trump about deploying EU troops in Ukraine. Trump only cares about not spending resources in Ukraine because either he is being paid by Putin (likely) or he really does not get how important is to have Europe as ally.

Either way it does not matter, if there are European troops in Ukraine, the development of the country and the business opportunities that come with it should be good enough to create the European army. Ukraine will become a military production world class power and most likely Europe will launch an enhanced nuclear weapons programme - many countries were wondering what to do with all that Plutonium from the nuclear reactors anyway.

Because it is not subjective. Europe is very heterogeneous and consists of many countries. In some of these countries, during the conflict in Ukraine, there was a "rightward turn", and forces more oriented towards nationalism came to power. And this makes it difficult to develop a unified position in the European Parliament, because all important decisions in Europe must be taken unanimously. In terms of developing a unified foreign policy, Europe is paralyzed.

[paxmao]

That is interesting, but it has not happened

Really? The conflict in Ukraine is a hybrid proxy war between Russia and the US for influence in Europe. It seems that Europe is no longer interesting to the US.

That is not a fact, it is your interpretation. Europe has not become a protectorate of Ruzzia, but it certainly getting ready to provide Ukraine with means of self defence... so, nothing like you predicted. Â Just keep it there and wait, who knows... maybe in 100 or 200 years your descendants will claim you were right or something like that.

I saw a video of Macron and Trump meeting yesterday, where they were patting each other's knees. Macron flew to Washington to make a strong statement about Europe's support for Ukraine, and left as a fan of Trump's peace plan. Europe can't do anything alone, because it is not a subject.

Europe cannot do anything together because is not what?? You probably mean is not a single country under a dictator?

You probably have not heard about the European Union. It is not a single country, but when it comes to doing things together, eventually they do things together. Decades ago it was just a free trade zone, now has a political union and well, I guess we have to thank Putin for making Europe now have to be a military alliance.

I have seen the video too. If Macron is smiling I can already tell you that he got what he went to seek.

Macron held several meetings with Putin and phone calls at the beginin of the war, however he was not able to stop the war. Now Macron has spoken with Trump about deploying EU troops in Ukraine. Trump only cares about not spending resources in Ukraine because either he is being paid by Putin (likely) or he really does not get how important is to have Europe as ally.

Either way it does not matter, if there are European troops in Ukraine, the development of the country and the business opportunities that come with it should be good enough to create the European army. Ukraine will become a military production world class power and most likely Europe will launch an enhanced nuclear weapons programme - many countries were wondering what to do with all that Plutonium from the nuclear reactors anyway.

Because it is not subjective. Europe is very heterogeneous and consists of many countries. In some of these countries, during the conflict in Ukraine, there was a "rightward turn", and forces more oriented towards nationalism came to power. And this makes it difficult to develop a unified position in the European Parliament, because all important decisions in Europe must be taken unanimously. In terms of developing a unified foreign policy, Europe is paralyzed.

That's what Putin tought. You may remember that at the begining of the invasion of Ukraine, Putin sent individual letters to the countries in the EU. What he got back was a single letter from the EU.

Europe always looks paralised, and it never is. It simply advances thorugh a complex process of multilateral negotiations, which is slow, but never stops.

On the far left rise in Germanym France and Italy, I think is mostly due to inmigration. I think that this will eventually be addressed by the traditional parties because they understand they will loose power if they do not.

If you are talking about Orban, well, he is the laughing Clown of Europe. The German far right is pretty much isolated, despite good results in elections.

You may have observed that the moment the far right gets to government, they start taking good distance with Putin. People in Europe can simply tell that is not a good idea to have a strong Ruzzia particularly if it is too close.

Here, have some paralysis:

https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-leaders-weigh-bypassing-spending-restraints-for-massive-defense-package/

Germany weighs massive defense spending deal before far right can block it

https://vreme.com/en/svet/fon-der-lajen-evropa-mora-hitno-da-se-naoruza/

At a summit on Ukraine in London, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said the European Commission would propose a weapons plan because "we really need to seriously step up our efforts."

We urgently need to rearm Europe, said today the president of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, one of the first European officials to express her reaction after the end of the summit on Ukraine in London.

Now, if that happens, would you say that (a) weapons will be kept in depots in Europe or (b) they will be sent where they are needed (yes, that is Ukraine).