Is Jack Dorsey, Satoshi Nakamoto?

[sokani]

The true identity of Satoshi Nakamo is a mystery that some has tried to unravel in the past and failed. But here's a new one. I came across this tweet by Sean Murray on X where he made an interesting theory linking Jack Dorsey to Satoshi Nakamoto. Would like to know what you guys think.

"Jack Dorsey was:

• 1 of ~1,300 confirmed cypherpunks in 1996 (his UMR email).
• Wore an Adam Back t-shirt in the UMR yearbook. UMR students were called Miners.
• Was a CompSci & Math major with an interest in crypto.
• Member of ACM in 1997 to at least 1999.
• Created academic research paper submission & review software for Mira Digital Publishing.
• Known to use: OpenBSD, Windows, Mac, Linux.
• Confirmed to code in: C, Python, Java, Perl, PHP, OCaml, JoCaml, Lisp, ObjC and more.
• Still on the cypherpunk mailing list in 2000 under his dnet .com email.
• Wrote a manifesto about making a mark without leaving a trace in 2001.
• Subscriber to cryptome .org in 2001.
• Made a blog post where he jokingly says he is working on a network for drug traffickers.
• Posted a bio in 2003 that says he is into crypto, pseudonyms, 4am hacks, and more.
• Posted in 2003 that he is ending his dependence on the US dollar and creating a barter network.
• Referred to himself as Jak instead of Jack. Jak was his pseudonym.
• Jack, who was a sailor, tweeted on 8/17/08: Around the horn and home again, for that's the sailor's way". Bitcoin .org was registered the next day.
• Jack's twitter profile from Sept '07 - Jan '09 said he was a sailor.
• The original Bitcoin source code included an old sailor's adage. "Never go to sea with two chronometers; take one or three".
• The original Bitcoin source code documents are all timestamped as being created at exactly 4AM, just like Jack's bio.
• The original Bitcoin source code documents contain a brute forced example vanity bitcoin address that starts with NS17 (Nakamoto Satoshi 1/7 ). The documents were created 1/7/09.
• Satoshi accidentally logged into IRC on 1/10/09 using a real IP, revealing he was in California (where Jack was).
• The first bitcoin transaction took place on Jack's mom's birthday (1/11/09).
• Satoshi joined the bitcoin forum on Jack's birthday (11/19).
• Satoshi's last mined block was on Jack's dad's birthday (5/3/10).
• Satoshi told Hal in an email about vanity bitcoin addresses and showed him a SECOND one beginning with NS.
• Jack sends bitcoin to 4 addresses after Hal, including one that has jD2m in the middle. Jack lived at 2 Mint Plaza in San Francisco. Jack Dorsey 2 Mint (jD2m).
• Satoshi tells Martti Malmi that he is really busy with work. Jack was busy launching his next startup, Square (now Block).
• Satoshi tells people on the forum not to donate Bitcoins to Wikileaks on 12/5/10.
• Twitter is hit with a secret court order with a gag requirement to turn over everything it has about Wikileaks on 12/14/10.
• Satoshi stopped logging into the forum on 12/13/10 and never returned.
• Jack is made Executive Chairman of Twitter while remaining CEO of Square on 3/28/11 and he tweets that he is very busy with both.
• Satoshi sends his last email on 4/23/11.
• Twitter's tech lead suggests that Twitter might integrate bitcoin payments on 5/23/11.
• Jack Dorsey calls Bitcoin an Amazing Movement in September 2012 and said that Square would accept it if it became huge and accepted.
• Jack's best friend Alyssa Milano writes a novel (Hacktivist) in the Summer of 2013 about Jack, in which she places him as living a double life behind a famous pseudonym.
• Square announces Bitcoin acceptance on 3/31/14.
• Satoshi's gmx email is hacked on 9/8/14 and the hacker attempts to extort Satoshi by sharing that he knows about his connection to St. Louis, Missouri. Jack is from St. Louis.
• Alyssa Milano writes a 2nd novel about Jack (Hacktivist). In this one, Jack's famous pseudonym is hijacked and his software developed in a way that was not intended. The hijacker has a logo that looks almost exactly like Gavin Andresen's Bitcoin Faucet logo. It was released in installments with the first one going out on 7/29/15.
• Two weeks later on 8/15/15, Satoshi reappears on the bitcoin mailing list to address the bitcoin block size debates. People are shocked about Satoshi's return and some doubt it is really him but could not disprove it.
• On 10/15/15, Jack is made permanent CEO of Twitter, officially making him CEO of two companies.
• The last installment of Milano's novel about Jack is published, in which its ends by him returning as head to his social network.
• Square publishes a children's book in January 2018 to explain the "Legend of Satoshi Nakamoto" in which it makes its Satoshi character look like Jack.
• On 4/20/20 Lex Fridman asks Jack if he is Satoshi, to which Jack tells him that he wouldn't admit it to him if he was. This is in contrast to Nick Szabo, Adam Back, and Hal Finney all saying explicitly that they were not Satoshi.
• On 5/25/20 - 145 very old bitcoin addresses signed a message stating that Craig Wright was not Satoshi and that he was a liar and a fraud. The oldest bitcoin address that signed the message started with 1jak (Jack's old pseudonym) and the oldest that signed it contained HiSQ in the middle. SQ is the ticker for his company Square.
• In February of 2022 Jack starts wearing a Satoshi shirt, first on a Michael Saylor podcast and then at the Super Bowl.
• On 10/27/23, Jack said at a conference that "Bitcoin and Satoshi in 2009 was a combination of my childhood and my curiosity and everything that I aspired to be and everything I loved."
• Craig Wright's attorneys argue in early 2024 that if Craig Wright was not Satoshi "then the real Satoshi would have been expected to come forward to counter the claim." It did not dawn on them that the person countering the claim was Jack Dorsey, who was the basis for the COPA v Wright legal challenge to begin with. Jack Dorsey came forward to counter the claim.
• On 7/21/24 Jack wrote on Nostr, "I frequently imagine Satoshi sitting back somewhere and laughing at it all."
• On 8/28/24 Jack went on Nostr and thanked Hal Finney (now deceased) for his help.
• Jack parades himself around in a Satoshi shirt".

Source: https://x.com/financeguy74/status/1890850549035110558?t=AgtdtDexZZ022esNRyzFLQ&s=19

[Ambatman]

Nice connections and all
He could be or may not be satoshi
But it means nothing if he can't  sign a message from Satoshi's wallet address.
At least this is better than Craig's that comes out parading that he's satoshi.

Even if Jack is the one, I guess he would deny it.
I just picture in my mind Satoshi is dead and if he is alive how many people really knows who they are

[PX-Z]

Aside from the list, there's no strong evidence to show that he is Satoshi.

Satoshi is a cryptography guy, Twitter was founded wayback 2006 without adding cryptography related to Twitter on its early days. Also, Satoshi is basically a C++ programmer, whereas Dorsey is not, or no publicly available info that he knows C++.

[NeuroticFish]

• The first bitcoin transaction took place on Jack's mom's birthday (1/11/09).
• Satoshi joined the bitcoin forum on Jack's birthday (11/19).
• Satoshi's last mined block was on Jack's dad's birthday (5/3/10).

No. Since Satoshi was so good in hiding his tracks, why would be give this kind of clues?
Plus, as said, while Satoshi was a C++ dev, Jack is (most probably) not.

I don't know why people keep coming with wild ideas about who Satoshi is. Give the man his peace. If he would ever want to come to light, he knows what to do.

[cr1776]

Aside from the list, there's no strong evidence to show that he is Satoshi.

Satoshi is a cryptography guy, Twitter was founded wayback 2006 without adding cryptography related to Twitter on its early days. Also, Satoshi is basically a C++ programmer, whereas Dorsey is not, or no publicly available info that he knows C++.

I'd add one can use Windows and not be familiar enough with it to code in C++.  Anything is possible of course, but hindsight can find connections that may (or may not) be relevant.  :-)

[jumptheramp]

IMHO, he ain't the one.  Satoshi, if you ask me, was a team.  A team that Dorsey wasn't on.  He's one of the good guys, but he wasn't involved.  Just my two cents.

[AVE5]

The true identity of Satoshi Nakamo is a mystery that some has tried to unravel in the past and failed. But here's a new one. I came across this tweet by Sean Murray on X where he made an interesting theory linking Jack Dorsey to Satoshi Nakamoto. Would like to know what you guys think.

With several attempts that hasn't been verified with numerous whistleblowers in claim of unveiling Satoshi Nakamoto publicly all these while should had been enough for us to just forget this digging of who really Satoshi is and just hit the mattress before after all claims being researched we still sit upon not getting convinced that it's true.

[Obim34]

Even if Satoshi is alive, seeing all claims will only have to send him back into hiding.

Satoshi there and everywhere, who to call the real Satoshi, since i have been here thread upon threads has been created on who is Satoshi with several proofs as claim.

Too bad for Jack Dorsey, as the responses below mine says their knowledges differs which makes it hard to believe he is Satoshi, that makes the whole listed 30+ points outlined all rendered invalid to the claim.

[adultcrypto]

These are strong connections for sure but it still left so much doubts. What I can make from this is that even if Jack Dorsey is not Satoshi, it is possible he had clues or should I say early ideas about what Satoshi was working on and may as well attempt to position himself well to take the glory. I will not accept that he is Satashi until he public declare himself to be Satoshi and do the needful which is sign a message with one of Satoshi's known wallet addresses.

[Hazink]

I don't know why people keep coming with wild ideas about who Satoshi is. Give the man his peace. If he would ever want to come to light, he knows what to do.

They can’t give him that peace; it’s not possible. More people will keep on digging and trying to make a more believable connection. It’s like a competition for those eager to decode the puzzle as if there is going to be some special prize for them if they actually did unveil who the person is, which is likely not going to happen.

[Cripple Dan]

Satoshi either died or is embarrassed for losing his seed phrase

[DPHOR]

I don't know why people keep coming with wild ideas about who Satoshi is. Give the man his peace. If he would ever want to come to light, he knows what to do.

Aside that, after knowing whom he is what else, what would they do?
Killed him or crucify him or what?
Yeah, I don't see any reason why trying to dig out his true identity knowing too well that his identity was for the purpose of bitcoin to last longer than we can imagine. If he reveals his identities don't you think there would be so much threat to bitcoin through government and those who are wanting to centralized bitcoin?

[JollyGood]

In short, there is not enough evidence that has any weight or significance that categorically points to Dorsey being Satoshi.

I stated in a thread before and repeat it here, we do not know how many people were involved in creating Bitcoin and were behind the Satoshi name. It was probably not just one individual but the mystery remains divisive therefore nobody can prove anything.

The true identity of Satoshi Nakamo is a mystery that some has tried to unravel in the past and failed. But here's a new one. I came across this tweet by Sean Murray on X where he made an interesting theory linking Jack Dorsey to Satoshi Nakamoto. Would like to know what you guys think.

"Jack Dorsey was:~"

[aoluain]

In general the Bitcoin community dont care who Satoshi is, Satoshi chose to vacate
the scene knowing "it was in good hands". That decision has to be both admired and
respected.

Satoshi brought a ground breaking technology to the world the second ground
breaking feat was to . . . . . . disappear and remain disappear-ed, it is such a
success that all we have are multiple guessing games and speculation events
. . . . . just like the OP.

"we" are never going to unearth that which is a total mystery.

[uchegod-21]

The true identity of Satoshi Nakamo is a mystery that some has tried to unravel in the past and failed. But here's a new one. I came across this tweet by Sean Murray on X where he made an interesting theory linking Jack Dorsey to Satoshi Nakamoto. Would like to know what you guys think.

"Jack Dorsey was:

• 1 of ~1,300 confirmed cypherpunks in 1996 (his UMR email).
• Wore an Adam Back t-shirt in the UMR yearbook. UMR students were called Miners.
• Was a CompSci & Math major with an interest in crypto.
• Member of ACM in 1997 to at least 1999.
• Created academic research paper submission & review software for Mira Digital Publishing.
• Known to use: OpenBSD, Windows, Mac, Linux.
• Confirmed to code in: C, Python, Java, Perl, PHP, OCaml, JoCaml, Lisp, ObjC and more.
• Still on the cypherpunk mailing list in 2000 under his dnet .com email.
• Wrote a manifesto about making a mark without leaving a trace in 2001.
• Subscriber to cryptome .org in 2001.
• Made a blog post where he jokingly says he is working on a network for drug traffickers.
• Posted a bio in 2003 that says he is into crypto, pseudonyms, 4am hacks, and more.
• Posted in 2003 that he is ending his dependence on the US dollar and creating a barter network.
• Referred to himself as Jak instead of Jack. Jak was his pseudonym.
• Jack, who was a sailor, tweeted on 8/17/08: Around the horn and home again, for that's the sailor's way". Bitcoin .org was registered the next day.
• Jack's twitter profile from Sept '07 - Jan '09 said he was a sailor.
• The original Bitcoin source code included an old sailor's adage. "Never go to sea with two chronometers; take one or three".
• The original Bitcoin source code documents are all timestamped as being created at exactly 4AM, just like Jack's bio.
• The original Bitcoin source code documents contain a brute forced example vanity bitcoin address that starts with NS17 (Nakamoto Satoshi 1/7 ). The documents were created 1/7/09.
• Satoshi accidentally logged into IRC on 1/10/09 using a real IP, revealing he was in California (where Jack was).
• The first bitcoin transaction took place on Jack's mom's birthday (1/11/09).
• Satoshi joined the bitcoin forum on Jack's birthday (11/19).
• Satoshi's last mined block was on Jack's dad's birthday (5/3/10).
• Satoshi told Hal in an email about vanity bitcoin addresses and showed him a SECOND one beginning with NS.
• Jack sends bitcoin to 4 addresses after Hal, including one that has jD2m in the middle. Jack lived at 2 Mint Plaza in San Francisco. Jack Dorsey 2 Mint (jD2m).
• Satoshi tells Martti Malmi that he is really busy with work. Jack was busy launching his next startup, Square (now Block).
• Satoshi tells people on the forum not to donate Bitcoins to Wikileaks on 12/5/10.
• Twitter is hit with a secret court order with a gag requirement to turn over everything it has about Wikileaks on 12/14/10.
• Satoshi stopped logging into the forum on 12/13/10 and never returned.
• Jack is made Executive Chairman of Twitter while remaining CEO of Square on 3/28/11 and he tweets that he is very busy with both.
• Satoshi sends his last email on 4/23/11.
• Twitter's tech lead suggests that Twitter might integrate bitcoin payments on 5/23/11.
• Jack Dorsey calls Bitcoin an Amazing Movement in September 2012 and said that Square would accept it if it became huge and accepted.
• Jack's best friend Alyssa Milano writes a novel (Hacktivist) in the Summer of 2013 about Jack, in which she places him as living a double life behind a famous pseudonym.
• Square announces Bitcoin acceptance on 3/31/14.
• Satoshi's gmx email is hacked on 9/8/14 and the hacker attempts to extort Satoshi by sharing that he knows about his connection to St. Louis, Missouri. Jack is from St. Louis.
• Alyssa Milano writes a 2nd novel about Jack (Hacktivist). In this one, Jack's famous pseudonym is hijacked and his software developed in a way that was not intended. The hijacker has a logo that looks almost exactly like Gavin Andresen's Bitcoin Faucet logo. It was released in installments with the first one going out on 7/29/15.
• Two weeks later on 8/15/15, Satoshi reappears on the bitcoin mailing list to address the bitcoin block size debates. People are shocked about Satoshi's return and some doubt it is really him but could not disprove it.
• On 10/15/15, Jack is made permanent CEO of Twitter, officially making him CEO of two companies.
• The last installment of Milano's novel about Jack is published, in which its ends by him returning as head to his social network.
• Square publishes a children's book in January 2018 to explain the "Legend of Satoshi Nakamoto" in which it makes its Satoshi character look like Jack.
• On 4/20/20 Lex Fridman asks Jack if he is Satoshi, to which Jack tells him that he wouldn't admit it to him if he was. This is in contrast to Nick Szabo, Adam Back, and Hal Finney all saying explicitly that they were not Satoshi.
• On 5/25/20 - 145 very old bitcoin addresses signed a message stating that Craig Wright was not Satoshi and that he was a liar and a fraud. The oldest bitcoin address that signed the message started with 1jak (Jack's old pseudonym) and the oldest that signed it contained HiSQ in the middle. SQ is the ticker for his company Square.
• In February of 2022 Jack starts wearing a Satoshi shirt, first on a Michael Saylor podcast and then at the Super Bowl.
• On 10/27/23, Jack said at a conference that "Bitcoin and Satoshi in 2009 was a combination of my childhood and my curiosity and everything that I aspired to be and everything I loved."
• Craig Wright's attorneys argue in early 2024 that if Craig Wright was not Satoshi "then the real Satoshi would have been expected to come forward to counter the claim." It did not dawn on them that the person countering the claim was Jack Dorsey, who was the basis for the COPA v Wright legal challenge to begin with. Jack Dorsey came forward to counter the claim.
• On 7/21/24 Jack wrote on Nostr, "I frequently imagine Satoshi sitting back somewhere and laughing at it all."
• On 8/28/24 Jack went on Nostr and thanked Hal Finney (now deceased) for his help.
• Jack parades himself around in a Satoshi shirt".

Source: https://x.com/financeguy74/status/1890850549035110558?t=AgtdtDexZZ022esNRyzFLQ&s=19

I am sorry that I had to quote the whole wall of text. I found it interesting and want it to be in my profile.

A paragraph summarised everything, where he said that even if he was to be Satoshi, he wouldn't admit it.

It is time we come to the saddest truth that Satoshi can't be discovered.
1. If you eventually discover him, he will say he is not Satoshi.
2. If he eventually shows up, we will say it's not him.
3. No one is signing any message from the Satoshi wallet.

[alani123]

Almost everything you'll hear of Jack Dorsey is later confirmed to have been a lie.
There was a popular rumor that he was working 18 hour days due to being a dual CEO. There was even an entire lore to support this saying he put people on the Square office to work evenings so he could accommodate.

The truth? He was never in either office. As any self respecting executive, he would spend most of his time holidaying. None of his employees saw him hardly ever after a certain point of Twitter having hit the mainstream. He remained CEO because it was convenient. His power to enact decisions was miniscule. All he cared about was keeping his fund initiative.

Jack Dorsey is a very elusive person. Hardly anyone knows him. Alyssa Milano supposedly being a friend of him is an extreme exaggeration. Jack never confirmed any of this.

Anyone who has been following Jack knows that he's the kind of person that never shows any strong opinions. He's opinionated alright, but never seems to care about influencing the world with speech. He's just a guy that struck rich and the capitalist self-made myth that developed around him became so funny that he never denied it. He has never even claimed to be a good programmer himself, yet listen to what people are saying.

[Patikno]

There are so many connections and allegations related to Bitcoin or Satoshi to Jack Dorsey. I also saw a similar post on a site, but it seems your explanation is broader and more detailed. I think it's still just an allegation with reasons, as well as some people who are also associated with Satoshi Nakamoto, but no one knows for sure, and I think this only will all be revealed by Satoshi himself, or maybe someone close to him who leaks it.

[Reatim]

Nice connections and all
He could be or may not be satoshi
But it means nothing if he can't  sign a message from Satoshi's wallet address.

even with all these evidences, if only one can’t be done then it wouldn’t mean anything satoshi only has to do one thing to prove he is satoshi himself and that would be to move his coins

Even if Jack is the one, I guess he would deny it.
I just picture in my mind Satoshi is dead and if he is alive how many people really knows who they are

it’s been years since satoshi “disappeared” if he wanted to be found, he would have been many years ago but he remains a mystery until now

[ultrloa]

So another character unlock then people speculate that he's the new Satoshi Nakamoto? For sure same with other people pointed out as Satoshi we need to see some proof of relation towards this legendary identity. Since if no one could prove that they are the real one then this claims will go the same with other one and people will trash out the idea about he is the real Satoshi.

I doubt the real one would show up here since its so long no one points out the real identity of Satoshi with proof. Mostly we can see are those clowns claiming that they are the real one. I don't know if its still important to unveil the identity of the real Satoshi since maybe he/she just want to be totally anonymous and just happy with what his creation reached so far.

[freedomgo]

Many have claimed to be Satoshi but the most vocal is Craig Wright. However,  I think it's cool that we don't really know who the true Satoshi is, as it's fun to tell newbies that Bitcoin's creator is anonymous. I believe that if Satoshi is still around, he won't show himself. And even if some clues point to someone ^{(Dorsey in this case)}, they're never conclusive, and most people just don't care.