Satoshi's Bitcoin

[R1oddity]

Hi all,
I am writing a work of fiction that involves Satoshi's Bitcoin.
I am seeking information regarding accessing Satoshi's Bitcoin holdings.
Specifically:
- if someone were to discover, let's say, an old notebook in which Satoshi had written down the information needed to access his Bitcoin holdings, what form would that information take?
- what would a complete novice to Bitcoin need to do to utilise that information to gain access to the Bitcoin?
Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

[franky1]

satoshis stash is not one address of 1m coins.. its actually ~20,000 addresses of 50btc to total ~1m coin

each address has a corresponding private key(think of it like a password needed to prove ownership of address by signing a cryptographic message using the private key(password))

satoshi would not hand write 20,000 private keys to access(prove ownership) of ~20,000addresses
instead he would have backed up the wallet file. maybe your story would be finding a USB drive of a wallet (as most scam/fantasy stories we see of satoshi's stash start off as)

yep many scammers on this forum and elsewhere already wrote fantasy stories of finding satoshis wallet file containing all the keys.. so your story is not an original

[Despairo]

The address start by 1... , so it's not a multi signature wallet.

But, it will depend on Satoshi created his wallet, if he use random derivation path or extended passphrase, you need to know the derivation path and passphrase, if you only know the seed phrase, you will access different wallet.

I heard we can also access our wallet if we have the wallet.dat file, so the answer would be many and vary depend on the information.

[franky1]

The address start by 1... , so it's not a multi signature wallet.

But, it will depend on Satoshi created his wallet, if he use random derivation path or extended passphrase, you need to know the derivation path and passphrase, if you only know the seed phrase, you will access different wallet.

I heard we can also access our wallet if we have the wallet.dat file, so the answer would be many and vary depend on the information.

seeds did not exist back then. there was no derivation path
 it was singular private key per address, so ~20,000 private keys

[R1oddity]

satoshis stash is not one address of 1m coins.. its actually ~20,000 addresses of 50btc to total ~1m coin

each address has a corresponding private key(think of it like a password needed to prove ownership of address by signing a cryptographic message using the private key(password))

satoshi would not hand write 20,000 private keys to access(prove ownership) of ~20,000addresses
instead he would have backed up the wallet file. maybe your story would be finding a USB drive of a wallet (as most scam/fantasy stories we see of satoshi's stash start off as)

yep many scammers on this forum and elsewhere already wrote fantasy stories of finding satoshis wallet file containing all the keys.. so your story is not an original

Thank you for your response.
Would you be able to say what form that private key would take? I believe it would be a string of random characters, but how long would it typically be (if there is a standard for that era) and would it be upper and lower case letters, and numbers (and symbols?)
Thank you.

[franky1]

how about realise your story is not original and sounds like you are just trying to get answers to form a story, but not for literacy/entertainment purposes but to sound believable to then scam someone with something that sounds atleast plausible

also if you are really wanting to learn/research.. a simple google/forum search can take under 10 seconds.. unlike writing posts and waiting hours for responses

eg
google: bitcoin private key example
and have your answer in 0.2 seconds

case sensitivity: doesnt matter
alphanumerics: hexadecimal

[Cryptohygenic]

- if someone were to discover, let's say, an old notebook in which Satoshi had written down the information needed to access his Bitcoin holdings, what form would that information take?

You don't get access to a wallet without the pass keys or seed phrase so, it would just be a written indicating his wallet seed phrase or pass keys.

- what would a complete novice to Bitcoin need to do to utilise that information to gain access to the Bitcoin?
Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

I am but skeptic to this, is the illusionary story for a mere fairy tails or junks of tasks that is to persuade inventing a technology of invading users wallets?
However, once you get access to the real wallet address and it seed phrase or pass keys based on the illusion, you can input them in and there you get access to the funds there.
Let's keep living by this illusion in strive of getting to Satoshi's bitcoin wallet. 😁

[JollyGood]

The is the second author in quick succession after the nonsensical drama of the Blockchain History account.

I guess we have to read some of the work from the OP before coming to a conclusion but if the OP had a subject he wanted to write about he could have investigated it without the need to post asking for information. All the information is available here, anyway looking forward to the work presented by the OP.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

Hi all,
I am writing a work of fiction that involves Satoshi's Bitcoin.
I am seeking information regarding accessing Satoshi's Bitcoin holdings.
Specifically:
- if someone were to discover, let's say, an old notebook in which Satoshi had written down the information needed to access his Bitcoin holdings, what form would that information take?
- what would a complete novice to Bitcoin need to do to utilise that information to gain access to the Bitcoin?
Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

Your question is very high and demands for more thorough means for answering them one after the other, but let me give a try from my end base on my own personal understanding.

1. The information you could need is nothing than the seed phrase to have access to each or any of the corresponding wallets he is using, now come to think of the chances of getting this keys.

2. Being a novice, I expect you to do nothing to it than to see such and ignore it, not knowing that it's what can be used to have access to a wallet, but having little idea on what seed phrase is, you can just grab it and keep to yourself as a lifetime opportunity, it you tell someone, they may deceive you to get it away from you.

[tbct_mt2]

I am writing a work of fiction that involves Satoshi's Bitcoin.
I am seeking information regarding accessing Satoshi's Bitcoin holdings.

You want to find information about Satoshi Nakamoto and his bitcoin treasury but your purpose is writing a fiction, it's does not match each other purposedly. Honestly, I really don't like your idea and plan from information finding to fiction writing. I support you if you want to have information for writing a documentary book, a research, a report, but a fiction I am against it.

Satoshi Nakamoto mined the Bitcoin Genesis Block and many early blocks.
Was Satoshi a greedy miner?
Satoshi's fortune.
Pattoshi's pattern.

[R1oddity]

Many thanks to all who have responded. I sincerely appreciate your time and trouble.

I have to say, I am somewhat bemused by some of the responses. The idea that I could be on a mission to scam others would be particularly humorous to anyone who knew my 'technical skills'. Also, the idea that the story of finding the greatest fortune the world has ever known can no longer be original because others have already told it speaks to a lack of imagination. I can think of similar stories that have been written by many different writers and all were worthy of the retelling and reinterpretation.

In the interests of transparency, I have been doing what research I am able to on the subject, but I am not a Bitcoin expert and was really seeking confirmation of certain beliefs I held from a community that really does know about Bitcoin.

For a story to be believable, it must be factually accurate. For example, if I were to attest that Satoshi's Bitcoin could be accessed with seed phrases I would have been wrong and maligned and my story flawed and dismissed. I knew that much.

What I wasn't sure of was that if Satoshi had recorded on paper how to access his Bitcoin holdings (yes, I appreciate there could be 20,000 wallets) how might he have done it to be believable in story form. (A suggestion was made that all of that information would probably be on a digital device, like a memory stick  (like others have imagined the story). I like to imagine that Satoshi might have also recorded his wallets' information in good old-fashioned paper form.)

I like to imagine that Satoshi may have recorded every wallet he created with every block he solved onto a spreadsheet and then printed it all out. I like to think he was meticulous about it. I like to imagine that the form this spreadsheet would take would be five columns: mining date/wallet password/public digital key/private digital key/number of BTC mined (typically 50). And that will give anyone all the information they need to access his fortune.

I am still not entirely certain of what form the public and private keys would take. I believe they would both be strings of random numbers and letters (alphanumeric), sixty-four characters in length. (I am still not sure if this is correct and whether the letters would be a mixture of upper and lower case. I will research some more.)

Again, for transparency, I write fiction for a hobby. I have several novels self-published on Amazon, one by an Amazon publishing house, and one series once with a small publishing house. I am thoroughly enjoying writing this book, which will be called 'The Saviour'.

For the record, I have long been mesmerised by Bitcoin and what Satoshi Nakamoto devised to bypass the financial institutions that control us all. I, for one, imagine that he is probably turning in his grave to think that control of his vision has been hijacked by the very financial institutions he set out to negate, and turned into an asset class for investment. Oh, the irony.

RIP Satoshi.

Once again, thanks to all responders. Over and out.

[tbct_mt2]

Again, for transparency, I write fiction for a hobby. I have several novels self-published on Amazon, one by an Amazon publishing house, and one series once with a small publishing house. I am thoroughly enjoying writing this book, which will be called 'The Saviour'.

If my advice can affect you, don't write any fiction about Bitcoin. If you want to write something, write about Bitcoin fact, and avoid fiction or conspiracy theory. There are enough Bitcoin fud and Bitcoin conspiracy theories, I don't think Bitcoin community need Bitcoin fictions or more conspiracy theories.

End the fud rather than create more fud.
https://endthefud.org/

RIP Satoshi.

Satoshi Nakamoto can still be alive, we don't know.

[franky1]

What I wasn't sure of was that if Satoshi had recorded on paper how to access his Bitcoin holdings (yes, I appreciate there could be 20,000 wallets) how might he have done it to be believable in story form. (A suggestion was made that all of that information would probably be on a digital device, like a memory stick  (like others have imagined the story). I like to imagine that Satoshi might have also recorded his wallets' information in good old-fashioned paper form.)

I like to imagine that Satoshi may have recorded every wallet he created with every block he solved onto a spreadsheet and then printed it all out. I like to think he was meticulous about it. I like to imagine that the form this spreadsheet would take would be five columns: mining date/wallet password/public digital key/private digital key/number of BTC mined (typically 50). And that will give anyone all the information they need to access his fortune.

I am still not entirely certain of what form the public and private keys would take. I believe they would both be strings of random numbers and letters (alphanumeric), sixty-four characters in length. (I am still not sure if this is correct and whether the letters would be a mixture of upper and lower case. I will research some more.)

private key not case sensitive, public address is case sensitive

demo look using random keys made up
block    private                                                                                                           public address                                               BTC
   1       e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855      1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN         50
   2       545cb431133cc640dc1c8fc3ddf79ddce6e1140577e2fc835dbeae25e6a2357a       12kqu4q3NFjGsjLNjdLRxjrjHKjP99B6kK            50
   3       ab68c94c2cc0ebcf2784c355fbe020b4698b53f3f1747f4787d7db9251aed5a8        1QK9nCJHMqko1Jojce21trQ4VF5ovfx9qz          50

more 'factually' the funds went to, not a public address but a public key
EG
04a34b99f22c790c4e36b2b3c2c35a36db06226e41c692fc82b8b56ac1c540c5bd5b8dec5235a0f a8722476c7709c02559e3aa73aa03918ba2d492eea75abea235

public key is also non case sensitive hex

but if you want a more plausible story, that aligns more with history and/or logic
back in 2009 satoshi created a new currency, but it had no value, so no financial gain to think about early on.. he  also did not want to profit from it, he only used sats of blockrewards to test his system and was not interested in backing up his wallet.
and so instead, every time he updated his node with new code it would overwrite the wallet and start again thus not retain the keys, thus he didnt have access to the keys when he finally disappeared in 2011

[Mrbluntzy]

What if Satoshi is still somewhere in the world living his life in a common way, not to be detected as Satoshi and perhaps if he still had access to his old computers where be has backed up all his datas and information of his wallet? I am not sure but what if that's just a reality, how do you intend to get access to his wallet when he is not even going to allow anyone gain access to it? No matter how spicy this fantasy can be but it's never going to be possible that anyone will get access to Satoshi's wallet unless if he has given any of his family members access to his wallet and have also instructed them when they have to sell the Bitcoin.

[R1oddity]

Thank you for responding. This is helpful.

I also appreciate your suggestion regarding any proposed narrative relating to Satoshi's Bitcoin.

private key not case sensitive, public address is case sensitive

demo look using random keys made up
block    private                                                                                                           public address                                               BTC
   1       e3b0c44298fc1c149afbf4c8996fb92427ae41e4649b934ca495991b7852b855      1HZwkjkeaoZfTSaJxDw6aKkxp45agDiEzN         50
   2       545cb431133cc640dc1c8fc3ddf79ddce6e1140577e2fc835dbeae25e6a2357a       12kqu4q3NFjGsjLNjdLRxjrjHKjP99B6kK            50
   3       ab68c94c2cc0ebcf2784c355fbe020b4698b53f3f1747f4787d7db9251aed5a8        1QK9nCJHMqko1Jojce21trQ4VF5ovfx9qz          50

more 'factually' the funds went to, not a public address but a public key
EG
04a34b99f22c790c4e36b2b3c2c35a36db06226e41c692fc82b8b56ac1c540c5bd5b8dec5235a0f a8722476c7709c02559e3aa73aa03918ba2d492eea75abea235

public key is also non case sensitive hex

[JollyGood]

RIP Satoshi.

Seriously? You are the one writing about Satoshi and trying to make a name for yourself and you want him to RIP, that is strange.

Once again, thanks to all responders. Over and out.

I guess that means he has left the forum.

[Reynaldo]

If you're writing about that era, worth noting that BTC had zero value then. Most early miners, including likely Satoshi, were overwriting wallets with each node update. They were testing a system, not storing future millions. Different story than most people imagine.

[YOSHIE]

- if someone were to discover, let's say, an old notebook in which Satoshi had written down the information needed to access his Bitcoin holdings, what form would that information take?

I think all the information about the Bitcoin Book of Satoshi notes you can find on the internet what else Books Satoshi and Bitcoin have been sold in the market to be read, so if you read I am sure You will find Bitcoin information from the beginning until now, so try to find the Satoshi information book you will get everything.

- what would a complete novice to Bitcoin need to do to utilise that information to gain access to the Bitcoin?

I think we all come here from beginners in bitcoin information, so there are many benefits that can be obtained about bitcoin information for you here, as others start from the bottom after that you will understand everything.

[Ronsbit]

Hi all,
I am writing a work of fiction that involves Satoshi's Bitcoin.
I am seeking information regarding accessing Satoshi's Bitcoin holdings.
Specifically:
- if someone were to discover, let's say, an old notebook in which Satoshi had written down the information needed to access his Bitcoin holdings, what form would that information take?
- what would a complete novice to Bitcoin need to do to utilise that information to gain access to the Bitcoin?
Any and all responses will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

I can understand that you are trying to come up with a possible write-up about Satoshi but I am just curious what it would be up to this time because we have heard countless numbers publications, stories and write-ups about Satoshi which wasn't properly addressed as according. Anyways for your information and from the little findings I have done here, Satoshi is the founder of this platform here is his profile and you can read further from his pos to get more information about Bitcoin as it pleases you.

SATOSHI

[pooya87]

The address start by 1... , so it's not a multi signature wallet.

FWIW neither one of the 1... addresses posted in that topic are "addresses" where miner received the block reward because in early days P2PK was the common output script type to use and the actual balance that block explorers falsely show belongs to the P2PK script not the P2PKH address.

Not to mention that the second one which is the reward of Genesis block is not even spendable and should not have been included in the balance of that "address".