Is quantum encryption pseudo science?

[WhyFhy]

My paradox is this.

Even if we find a form of quantum encryption,

And quantum computing scales , it renders the current encryption obsolete.

There's no shifting. No pivoting, nothing....

There is no way to apply it to current classical computing.
There's virtually infinite workarounds to "Pre-Layering"

Maybe encryption isn't what we need to be looking for in terms of security in the quantum realm.

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(QKD isn't a solution. It's a closed ecosystem workaround)

[Mia Chloe]

My paradox is this.
Even if we find a form of quantum encryption,
And quantum computing scales , it renders the current encryption obsolete.
There's no shifting. No pivoting, nothing....

Basically many discussions and kind of breakthrough announcements you come across concerning quantum computers are usually just theories. Yes many times we've seen discussions about quantum computing as the future of computing but the problem is how do we implement it in reality. There are many theories about quantum technology and nano chips but the problem is currently the level of technology we have isn't yet able to put it all together.

If you read some articles concerning semiconductor's nanoparticles and quantum technology you'll find out that there are already many planned out applications if they eventually can be created but for now most of them are just theories.

[jstyler]

we're stuck in a loop where future breakthroughs are rendered obsolete before they're even implemented. i'm not convinced quantum encryption will solve our current security problems, maybe we need to rethink what security even means in this context.

[NotFuzzyWarm]

My paradox is this.
Even if we find a form of quantum encryption,And quantum computing scales , it renders the current encryption obsolete.
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Um, quantum encryption chips have existed and been in use since 2021...  ref here

However, recently Microsoft announced (yet another) a QC chip a few days ago. https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/microsoft-quantum-chip-encryption/ That said, from that article:

Reaching the next stage of quantum computing will require a quantum architecture that can provide a million qubits or more and reach trillions of fast and reliable operations.

QE is something entirely different and far easier to implement than QC (Quantum Computing). QC still has a long long way to go before it is able to crack current standard encryption (or for that matter do anything significantly useful) but it is hardly 'pseudo science'. You might want to start doing a little fact checking before posting yer thoughts...

[WhyFhy]

My paradox is this.
Even if we find a form of quantum encryption,And quantum computing scales , it renders the current encryption obsolete.
<snip>

Um, quantum encryption chips have existed and been in use since 2021...  ref here

More recently Microsoft also announced a QE chip a few days ago. https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/microsoft-quantum-chip-encryption/

QE is something entirely different and far easier to implement than QC (Quantum Computing). QC still has a long long way to go before it is able to crack current standard encryption (or for that matter do anything significantly useful). It is hardly 'pseudo science'. You might want to start doing a little fact checking before posting yer thoughts...

That's my dilemma on this subject, you say a long time. I disagree. It's all time based cat and mouse .
I'm just speculating here.

Photonic encryption is part of QKD , I don't want to discuss this route as it leads to gating.
I don't think we want the gating route. Perhaps I'm wrong?

I don't mind putting my thoughts on here and having someone such as you contesting them.
It took me years to really start grasping basics even in bitcoin. I don't know shit.
My goal here is to see if there's other physical routes to protect classical systems against QC.

[mcdouglasx]

I believe that we will slowly migrate to increasingly secure systems as part of the natural and continuous evolutionary process of technology, just as we have been doing for decades by leaving old systems in obsolescence, like sha1. I don't think this will be a real problem for Bitcoin. A possible path to follow is the combination of non-commutative mathematics and cryptography, as in the near future we could generate systems of nonlinear equations or hidden isomorphisms, with problems difficult even for quantum computing.

[arabspaceship123]

It's possible it's going to happen the way you're saying but we're years away from breaking through. Which system's going to replace it if encryption becomes obsolete because quantum chips crack codes ?

we're stuck in a loop where future breakthroughs are rendered obsolete before they're even implemented. i'm not convinced quantum encryption will solve our current security problems, maybe we need to rethink what security even means in this context.

[pooya87]

Even if we find a form of quantum encryption,

And quantum computing scales , it renders the current encryption obsolete.

Isn't these two statements describe the entire history of cryptography which I think is over a thousand years old. We keep coming up with cryptography algorithms which have always had an expiration date when they become obsolete.

[Pablo-wood]

My paradox is this.

Even if we find a form of quantum encryption,

And quantum computing scales , it renders the current encryption obsolete.

There's no shifting. No pivoting, nothing....

Implementing quantum encryption can be quite complex, Thus the concern  about its longevity and usability arises. Let's say it becomes  unmanageable or resource-intensive, this might trigger  the need to revert back to older methods, ultimately rendering the new technology obsolete before it can be fully adopted.

There is no way to apply it to current classical computing.
There's virtually infinite workarounds to "Pre-Layering"

Maybe encryption isn't what we need to be looking for in terms of security in the quantum realm.

Don't we think applying cryptographic algorithm that is resistant to quantum attacks can solve this security bridge. A decentralised trust models such as the known Blockchain technologies that are temper proof and trustless.

[HeRetiK]

Even if we find a form of quantum encryption,

And quantum computing scales , it renders the current encryption obsolete.

Isn't these two statements describe the entire history of cryptography which I think is over a thousand years old. We keep coming up with cryptography algorithms which have always had an expiration date when they become obsolete.

These two statements describe the entire history of human technology. As long as humanity continues to progress, pretty much everything we come up with is doomed to be superseded by something better eventually. Cryptography is merely a subset of that.

[jstyler]

you're right, history of cryptography is a tale of innovation being eventually outpaced by advancement. but that's not necessarily a reason to dismiss quantum encryption as pseudo science. we just need to consider the current "expiration dates" of our encryption methods as an opportunity to develop new, more robust and adaptable security solutions.