So, let's talk about real flooding.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Don't you think, theymos and moderators, that it's about time to massively ban all this guy's alts?

Polo7

His alts are constantly breaking rule number 1.

He was already banned, and since then he hasn't stopped creating alts that flood the forum with the same crappy threads, pontificating as if he knows more than anyone else about the topics he talks about. All with the same style: spelling mistakes, and no backing his reasoning (like links, for example) other than that's how he sees it.

An example:

A lot hate against my advice that's okay i can't blame because i never get emotinal when people without knowledge saying anything.
I know people don't like "esoterical knowledge and spiritual blahh blahh"

They want to know the real 💎 GEM...wich is how to be good in this world in this physical life experince.
Okay, best advice is get rid off them money because If you know what money really is - If you been study esoterical secret spiritual knowledge you would know- but sure people don't want to study they prefer someone will study and then "doing some baby sitting for them"

Money doesn't exists it's only on our minds...and money is the total results of people works and society productivity and mindset....so how can you hold something wich is so volatile and impossible to count even how much real tangible money are there.

So If you got money like 10-20k on your bank account it's bad it's really bad, it should be on tangible assets, the best wealth plan will be how to get rid of the money the real wealth comes when you start mindset to exchange money into real things like crypto off course.

Money= mind the value of money mostly= minds of the people.
So holding money you hold peoples mind the money fiat currency are "meme coin all most same"
Off course keep money only as much you need food and paying bills and some extra emergncy money but most of the money should be transfered into real tangible asset and wich you control yourself too.

Since money really doesn't even existing for real money is the thing wich you can lose fastest of all the things!
For example you keep 3000$ on gold or in fiat currency you could lose this money faster then keeping this value in gold
Money existing virtually in peoples minds and it's just estimated imagination how rich or poor they are.

For example: you hold dollars USD, you hold collective wealth energy of usa people and the ones who use USD, If something happens in those people minds then things happening with your money too.. USD not best example because it's held by large groups of people and banks... let's say that you hold CAD wich is is not traded and held by so many people as USD...If something happens in minds of canadians the negative mindset then CAD value will go down.

Money= mind - so money value is connected with people minds If people who are user of this fiat currency feel bad sad and negative minds...then value of this currency falling too !!
You not told that money is connected instantly with people minds, bad mood= money value crashing.


I don't just talk blahh blahh esoteric or spiritual kind of things wich sounds boring and useless but i can show you how you use this "spiritual knowledge blahh blahh" in real life and how it helps you practically.

Money is meme and holding well until community holding well and are positive about it.

It's pure garbage. I can't understand how you tolerate this in a forum that's supposed to care about quality.

In my Reputation thread about him, you can see a list of a few of his alts.

[logfiles]

Don't you think, theymos and moderators, that it's about time to massively ban all this guy's alts?

The Mods are not certainly gods with some sort of superpowers unless if they have access to more details such as IP addresses but even then people like Polo7 never give up that easily, they will try to use different IP addresses, User agents etc via browsers like Tor

So the only way you can make them ban such alts is by making a well documented thread about the alts and then making a report to the moderators

[Free Market Capitalist]

The Mods are not certainly gods with some sort of superpowers unless if they have access to more details such as IP addresses but even then people like Polo7 never give up that easily, they will try to use different IP addresses, User agents etc via browsers like Tor

So the only way you can make them ban such alts is by making a well documented thread about the alts and then making a report to the moderators

You miss my main point to begin with. The main reason to take action against him is his repeated and constant violation of rule number 1.

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

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1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.

And regarding the documented thread, what do you want, classified FBI documents? I already posted a link to another thread.

Also, are you saying you need superpowers to know that these are the same guy?

Get ready for goods and products shiped from china india area sea to get very expensive.
Also USA stand behind india and will give all the military aid to India it means stock market commodities and btc looking bullish becouse just start of the china India war the fed might lower the rates.
Now they can't do rate cuts but If there will be world one of the biggest war definately fed ecb boe will cut rates fast.
This one is very important for USA so they will support with money even more then ukraine.
We might see fed rate cuts in 1-2 months the emergency rate cuts to give military aid.
Also this area is important becouse a lot sea traffic with shipments goes from there to the world.
Fed cutting the rates + tensions on world one of most important area can make shipping cost by conteiners sky rocketing.
China India war will have huge impact to Global economy but one thing is for sure markets will go up.
Also Since India own currency fall i guess blackrock is ready to start sell btc to India and to china.
Both have huge population the china and india and If from starting the btc adoption and USDT USDC adoption to get btc then it can move the markets like grazy.
We could see the fed cutting rates but dollar will be still strong becouse of strong demand of USD specially USDT and USDC.
Everything comes together exacly timing.

Yes Markets need war and it Will start soon the war is like water for flowers for the Market.
In war we can turn on money printer and buy the bonds so after war year 2028 Will be biggest rate hikes again and no more QE no more money printing so it will be last money printing orgie enjoy this make most of out of this and nobody don't listen anymore If anyone talk about inflation because powers to be even are in gold and btc and making grazy gains.
So enjoy the money printing it will be last one take maximum of this become rich year 2024-2025 or never Will be rich you only Will pay year 2028 higher taxes and higher rates and everything Will be cheap you want to sell Property 2026-2025 then all crashing down.
Just invest in some cheapest coins you make grazy money
Many people Will make so much money in one year from today that they lose their minds.
But off course without bigger war we not going here is the plan start war lower the rates fed ecb boe and send all the markets to biggest bull run in the history get ready for become so rich that you lose your mind.

Over the next years people Will be separated those who are with good mindset and Open minded they will be one place those who not they Will be another place so those who don't want to invest or crypto they Will be another circles those who are in good things they Will be connected.
By wealth society Will be divided 50/50 you will be very rich side doing nothing / poor side working and getting nothing If you know any good people whos going to be poor side then you can save them because you on the good side Will make more money you can spend yourself.

Wealth are not gambling or chasing the quick profit.
Wealth true strong wealth it's like energy creation of value+utility + hard work + quality+ and finest craftmemship.
Not just money and material things but everything even what you eat how you treat yourself.
The success and wealth it's all your lifestyle and how you also respect and treat yourself.
In life things happening to be the way that everything comes full If you are poor it's not just money problem you need better healt better education and better friends around you and more good vibes more quality and more value in material things and in knowledge and Even in your time.
In otherwords If you seems to not making money you have to change everything.
When it comes to investing in crypto or anything else those who really search for utility and value Will be winners.
I have learned hard way that money comes when i focus on value knowledge and hard work.
So If you surrounding yourself with people who value their time and they seek for quality and value then you connect with same kind of people.
People tend to think that If they see ultra super wealthy person and see the numbers that there is main thing money but it's not there is high value high quality of everything you have wealth more how you value your life your time and who you associate.
So in crypto it's fun to search fast gains but to be honest you make more wealth with patience and focusing in value and quality.
So the truth is you have to become quality minded person forget about numbers just focus on what ever you do it's associated with value and quality and utility

In USA 3000$ minimum Europe 300€-3500€ minimum wage i think UK there 4000$ minimum. Wage
But goverment need to regulate just
Rent prices , energy prices ,food prices.
So If you want to put food price up then you need to be approved by goverment only then you can go over price limit.
We need wages up but same time our regular costs need to be not go over limits.

So things we need goverment must keep prices check becouse the economy is playground and goverment duty is to be judge that everybody play fair game.

Besides, as I said, that’s not the main argument. The main argument is the repeated and constant violation of rule 1.

[Ambatman]

I think I brought something up about an account creating offensive words and it was nuked by a moderator.

I believe they still exist because people barely report their post
And Imo pointless and uninteresting post is subjective
They spammed a supposed rule breaking thread
Doesn't mean something wasn't learnt from the replies given to the thread.
I have come across threads by these individuals
And I have come across replies that I could resonate with or opened another view for me.

Besides I think there are worse out there.



Edit : Just checked the economic board and it's flooded by them

[SensitiveEyes]

Fullbear2222 complained in Global problems not my problems all i want is peace trump don't pay my bills no but writes English like a 5 year old. I got passed after asking which Steimer his complaint was to. He had 4 mishmash topics in Economics. It comes together if he uses alts.

Don't you think, theymos and moderators, that it's about time to massively ban all this guy's alts?

Polo7

[Mrbluntzy]

I made a suggestion in the other of your topic where I said that if the existing moderators already have too much duties on their desk, then the admin should add a few moderators to assist is making sure that such overly poor topics will not exist and the fact that the guy is a ban invader like you said, and yet still allowed to go on with his alt is quite astonishing. To my notice, the forum is highly against ban invasion, but the mods are allowing his alt to exist meanwhile it's not for any good purpose.

Another thing I would say is that, if people avoid his topics,  he will not have anybody to converse with.

[BenCodie]

You've not made any effort to make any kind of case here, you've just quoted one post. Why not go and get 10, 20, 30 posts so that mods can deal with it? All you have done here is created a thread instead of using the report button.

[uchegod-21]

Don't you think, theymos and moderators, that it's about time to massively ban all this guy's alts?

Polo7

He was already banned, and since then he hasn't stopped creating alts that flood the forum with the same crappy threads, pontificating as if he knows more than anyone else about the topics he talks about. All with the same style: spelling mistakes, and no backing his reasoning (like links, for example) other than that's how he sees it.

Firstly, there should be abundantly more evidence than that is presented to ensure they are alts. And besides, if those alts of his are banned, there's no guarantee that he will not go ahead and create 5 more alts in a day and continue his activities. The most effective means to curb this is to report and possibly ignore if it persists.

[CryptSafe]

Don't you think, theymos and moderators, that it's about time to massively ban all this guy's alts?

Polo7

He was already banned, and since then he hasn't stopped creating alts that flood the forum with the same crappy threads, pontificating as if he knows more than anyone else about the topics he talks about. All with the same style: spelling mistakes, and no backing his reasoning (like links, for example) other than that's how he sees it.

Firstly, there should be abundantly more evidence than that is presented to ensure they are alts. And besides, if those alts of his are banned, there's no guarantee that he will not go ahead and create 5 more alts in a day and continue his activities. The most effective means to curb this is to report and possibly ignore if it persists.

OP dropped a link to the thread he created on reputation thread about the owner of that account and his possible alts which other reputable members also were able to draw similarities in writing and posting patterns from possibly the same account. Maybe to clear the doubt as to their claims if the possibility of that account being linked to other accounts, OP would need to present evidence beyond just writing and posting patterns as that is what the forum could consider and look into before taking actions against that account holder and his other army of alts.

[Free Market Capitalist]

Firstly, there should be abundantly more evidence than that is presented to ensure they are alts. And besides, if those alts of his are banned, there's no guarantee that he will not go ahead and create 5 more alts in a day and continue his activities. The most effective means to curb this is to report and possibly ignore if it persists.

OP dropped a link to the thread he created on reputation thread about the owner of that account and his possible alts which other reputable members also were able to draw similarities in writing and posting patterns from possibly the same account. Maybe to clear the doubt as to their claims if the possibility of that account being linked to other accounts, OP would need to present evidence beyond just writing and posting patterns as that is what the forum could consider and look into before taking actions against that account holder and his other army of alts.

If you and uchegod-21 had read what I wrote a few posts above yours, instead of just reading the OP and rushing to reply, you would realize that the main argument for banning him is not that they're alts of a banned user. The main argument is the constant and repetitive violation of rule 1. That's the main argument. The fact that they're alts of a banned user only reinforces that point.

Apart from that, I've reported a few OPs on the Economics section for low value. Let's see how that goes.

[Majestic-milf]

Firstly, there should be abundantly more evidence than that is presented to ensure they are alts. And besides, if those alts of his are banned, there's no guarantee that he will not go ahead and create 5 more alts in a day and continue his activities. The most effective means to curb this is to report and possibly ignore if it persists.

I think Op feels there's no point in supplying 'abundant evidence ' when the whole thing is very clear. Even looking at the writing patterns of these other accounts and comparing it with the Polo7 one, you'd get your answer except you'd want to tell me they are probably different people, then I'd say the coincidence is just too much but then again like another user pointed out, instead of creating a thread for this, the best thing is to report to the moderators and if Op thinks it's pointless because this user has been freely flaunting his egregious behavior in this place without proper actions being taken on him. And that the only way is to make a thread that would somehow throw a shade at the accounts, then he too is also flooding the forum.

[Free Market Capitalist]

"Moderators are not all-powerful or omniscient, unless they have access to additional information such as IP addresses. However, even with this data, determined individuals like Polo7 can still evade detection by utilizing tools like Tor browser, which allows them to mask their IP addresses and user agents."

The fact that you put that text in quotes when you're supposed to have written it yourself makes it sound a lot like you've copied and pasted from an AI, but for now, you get away with it. I see you've already got a neutral tag on your profile, keep it up.

On the other hand, I see that the vast majority of reports I made about the guy in question have been marked as "good."

[Ultegra134]

The fact that you put that text in quotes when you're supposed to have written it yourself makes it sound a lot like you've copied and pasted from an AI, but for now, you get away with it. I see you've already got a neutral tag on your profile, keep it up.

On the other hand, I see that the vast majority of reports I made about the guy in question have been marked as "good."

I've reported him in the past as well, perhaps it wasn't this account but one of his alts, there are several around, all following the same writing style, similar names, usually ending or including 77 or 222 numbers. I've noticed that if the threads gather a few replies, they only get locked, perhaps it's that way so the users don't suddenly end up with a bunch of deleted posts. The issue isn't that they aren't getting deleted, but that there aren't any repercussions for the user, which should also apply for his alt accounts. It should be taken into account that his numerous accounts are literally flooding the forum.

[Pablo-wood]

Besides, as I said, that’s not the main argument. The main argument is the repeated and constant violation of rule 1.

I thought the right thing to be done was to :

Reports: If you notice someone breaking the rules, please use the 'report to moderator' feature found on the right side of their post. Alternatively, you could contact one of the moderators directly.

If you and uchegod-21 had read what I wrote a few posts above yours, instead of just reading the OP and rushing to reply, you would realize that the main argument for banning him is not that they're alts of a banned user. The main argument is the constant and repetitive violation of rule 1. That's the main argument. The fact that they're alts of a banned user only reinforces that point.

Apart from that, I've reported a few OPs on the Economics section for low value. Let's see how that goes.

My question is; are we meant to create threads reporting flooding / forum rule 1 violation or reporting directly to the moderators?. Isn't it violation as well taking laws into our hands by making a thread out of posts that are meant to be treated directly by the moderators. I believe moderators have the right to delay in taking action while the take their time to investigate reports.

If reports have been made I think it is best to sit back and allow the moderators do their job. Lots of cases get reported frequently and we don't expect them to just jump into every reports and pass judgement immediately without a fair evaluation and critical care so the pass the right judgement.

[Free Market Capitalist]

My question is; are we meant to create threads reporting flooding / forum rule 1 violation or reporting directly to the moderators?. Isn't it violation as well taking laws into our hands by making a thread out of posts that are meant to be treated directly by the moderators. I believe moderators have the right to delay in taking action while the take their time to investigate reports.

You still haven't learned about the blessed freedom of speech in this forum. If in your case you see a flooder that you think deserves a ban you can just report him or open a thread like this one, which is totally fine as well. Besides this thread is a counterattack against the luddism expressed in this one:

Thread to discuss acceptable uses of flooders in the forum


That it considers any use of AI in the forum illegitimate, which is obviously false, and equates it with flooding, which is also false.

If reports have been made I think it is best to sit back and allow the moderators do their job. Lots of cases get reported frequently and we don't expect them to just jump into every reports and pass judgement immediately without a fair evaluation and critical care so the pass the right judgement.

Ok, tell me who has said in this thread that the moderators have to rush to ban this guy so we (you and I) can argue against him.