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February 23, 2025, 04:14:12 PM
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Man, a lot happens in 8 years looking back- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1963763.msg19520346#msg19520346

I made that topic and we have kinda gotten there but kinda not, as well. @owlcatz (reply to someone asking about grading Kialara’s very nicely shutting the idea down 😛., well now PCGS does, maybe NGC?  I can’t keep up but I also don’t like either company because they do shady/shit business. PCGS does not allow drop offs? Fuckn ridiculous! I could go on (to no ones surprise). But the slabs are huge and make Kialara’s way less fun to play with after that.  I guess I understand if you plan to send to an auction house (after authentication by a ghost, prob Elias, a non-expert so still trying to figure authentication procedure out. This is going to backfire, sooner than later too).  

That said while Max was ridiculously generous having cases made, and while it took me some time to have the discussion with him being a buddy and him being VERY generous…I never trusted the cases fully and saw air pockets the day I got them. As anyone knows who’s bought a clear phone case ..no clear soft material will hold its color or provide an “air-tite” fit (technically not even slabs do, I know). Half of mine are yellowing, fog up and while I’ve had a couple bars in them, and not sure if they have created any damage, others have reported slight issues (@MinerJones could speak to this better than I).

In that old thread LesbianCow and I were adamant about using high end acrylic ONLY.  Max rightfully was concerned about it damaging his art. He still is (still, very understandably). I’ve assured him a proper fitting acrylic case will NOT damage anything. I’ve got coins with big jewels on the outside, all sorts of metal types (hard/soft) and everything in between in acrylic caps, plus 10oz silver bars in the air-tites.com cases which have been in them a decade now..zero issues what so ever.

My idea, price out a one size fits all bars acrylic case. For the newer small bars, custom inserts would be placed in all corners to hold them in place, retaining protection and still looking professional.


I spent an hour + on the phone with air-tites.com a few days ago. While they don’t manufacture, they are the leader in 3rd party resale for coin collectors needs (namely acrylic capsules/cases) and have close relationships with their producers. I spoke with the owner directly who was very receptive to our hobby, Kialara’s and is helping me out more than he certainly has to. Should know more soon!

For those of you who plan to hodl your Kialara’s forever, like myself, this imo is a no brainer.  

Interested ? (Price point unknown, but it would be at cost, of course).

If anyone knows makers who could accommodate such a project plz chime in.  Anyone in touch w @BG4?? Believe his company could makes these np.

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I would like this - I dont care for the tpu ones

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February 24, 2025, 12:51:25 PM
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I would like this - I dont care for the tpu ones

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Okay let’s flip it , show of hands who don’t want these cases and your reasoning behind it. Please articulate your view as to why, it’s important we learn from another…so why not ?

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That said while Max was ridiculously generous having cases made, and while it took me some time to have the discussion with him being a buddy and him being VERY generous…I never trusted the cases fully and saw air pockets the day I got them. As anyone knows who’s bought a clear phone case ..no clear soft material will hold its color or provide an “air-tite” fit (technically not even slabs do, I know). Half of mine are yellowing, fog up and while I’ve had a couple bars in them, and not sure if they have created any damage, others have reported slight issues (@MinerJones could speak to this better than I).


From what I have seen on my own and others bars, it appears to mostly affect the bars that have the stainless steel housing (Artist Series, Moon bars, etc).
Checking the originals, there does not seem to be much going on as the housings are aluminum
Also the Exogenesis/Hydra(black) bars do not show much as the coating on them prevents the marks, save for the label strip and circular housing around the coins which are stainless steel

Being that, Max helped me a while back with some bars that had some scratches/marks.
He recommended a metal polishing cloth made by the Cape Cod company
Here is an example from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Cape-Cod-Polish-8828-Polishing/dp/B0102K3NLU
They did work well for what they were needed, but I do recommend doing your own research


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February 24, 2025, 05:37:52 PM
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I'm interested if there is an EU group buy!

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Well here's me interacting, applauding the idea and effort and showing interest  Cheesy

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I would be interested.

I haven't seen a graded Kialara bar in person, but from the images I've seen they look comically large. If they weren't so big I would love to have mine graded, but your acrylic case idea would be good too. The TPU cases are ok, but they do have issues as others have stated.

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Sign me up as interested.
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I would be interested as well.

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February 28, 2025, 03:02:52 AM
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I would be interested.

I haven't seen a graded Kialara bar in person, but from the images I've seen they look comically large. If they weren't so big I would love to have mine graded, but your acrylic case idea would be good too. The TPU cases are ok, but they do have issues as others have stated.

Exactly. As a kid we all had our toy boxes right. And we’d get them out and play with them etc. Well I know many of us , coin collecting is our adult toys and it’s fun to get them out and “play” with them from time to time. That’s my thought here. Btw I’m open to trying one more time to code on your site if you’re interested and patient enough w/me. Let’s chat?


@cyrus, I think I was 6-7 blue moons deep + a spliff or two when writing that post. Good lord the spelling errors and incoherent sentences. Thankfully you know me well enough to decode my ramblings  Cheesy

@ModMitch did you rea…jk jk. 🤗


Everyone else thanks for the replies / interest. Will keep y’all posted soon! Let’s keep
The interest intent up!  (I also realized many OGs , including myself don’t frequent these waters as we once did. I imagine many of them would be interested.  Wish there was an easy way to contact them all. Some I know and will contact, like @comit for ex I think would be interested?? others I’d need help in doing so.


Edit: Lealanas bars , how comparable size wise are they, anyone with both able to share a photo or measurements perhaps. Might be able to make the cases work for both🤷‍♂️
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I was actually just looking into getting a case for mine - count me down as interested as well Smiley

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Also interested

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Interested. How big of a case are you thinking? Wall mountable?
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Glad to see the interest build. I suspect it to continue. I also know there’s a desire from plenty of Kialara owners who will never see this thread. If we can get enough interest and presales, hopefully we can get a build on demand ..maybe …possibly 🤷‍♂️. One way this could work is if Kialara posts a link to order them from wherever we end up striking a deal at on his website. I will check his interest in possibly doing so in the next few days.

As for size, as tight as possible on the larger older bars. Just like on these special edition RCM/eBay branded 10oz silver bars I snagged prob about a decade ago. No scratches or toning in 10 years.  Or ..completely forgot Alpen (who I’ve been in touch w recently and owe an email back rn come to think of it) who clearly had custom capsules made for his bars. They don’t move at all and have kept the bars in great condition. So there’s another great potential lead for a maker for us.  For the smaller bars, it’ll be like these bigtimespaghetti bars but there will be be inserts in the corners so they won’t move and still make the case look real sharp. Think NGC slab coin holders that are built inside the slabs, ensuring the coins will never move out of place.

Threw in 2 of my Masterpieces of Art Coins to show how even a very “elegant” piece can be capsuled in acrylic air tites with zero damage. You can see they’ve got Swarovski crystals (a very famous high end brand of crystal) wrapping the outsides of the art piece, no issues at all minis they aren’t top tier quality like what air-tites.com sells so the edges have toned. My own dumb ass fault as these come from a major mint and like most all major mints they don’t use the top tier air tites. I don’t like to think about it tbh , all toning on some of my fav pieces ..all from non air-tite vendors /makers. 🤬

(As always stated, I can’t take pics for shit so anything I ever post, looks better in person )

















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It would be ideal for the acrylic case to have the exact same size as the current TPU one so that it fits perfectly into the original Kialara leather cases. I am also interested in purchasing these acrylic cases.


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It would be ideal for the acrylic case to have the exact same size as the current TPU one so that it fits perfectly into the original Kialara leather cases. I am also interested in purchasing these acrylic cases.



That is one sexy ass case!

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March 03, 2025, 06:34:20 AM
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It would be ideal for the acrylic case to have the exact same size as the current TPU one so that it fits perfectly into the original Kialara leather cases. I am also interested in purchasing these acrylic cases.




Absolutely 100%, I meant to mention that. I don’t see why this couldn’t work out.
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